Tuesday, December 18th 2012 - 03:44 UTC

Argentina replaces ambassador Argüello by an economist and trade expert

The Argentine Foreign Ministry announced on Monday that President Cristina Fernández has decided to appoint Cecilia Nahón as Argentine ambassador to the United States, replacing Jorge Arguello in Washington DC.

Cecilia Nahón, close friend of Kicillof and next ambassador in Washington

Nahón, 39, had until now been working as a Secretary of International Economic Relations at the Argentine Foreign Ministry.

Argüello has been appointed as the new ambassador to Portugal, for which he is to be relocated to Lisbon.

Ms Nahón is a member of the Cenda think-tank (Centre of Studies for the Development of Argentina), from which have come some of the members of the Cristina Fernandez administration.

She is a personal friend of Axel Kicillof, the Deputy Economy minister who has a growing influence in the interventionist orientation of the Argentine administration. Apparently they belonged to the same militant students’ group while at university. Kicillof is said to prefer a blend of Keynes and Marx in political economics.

Ms Nahón is married to an Aerolineas Argentinas manager, Sergio Garcia Gomez and they have two children.

The new ambassador has an Economics degree from the University of Buenos Aires; a Master in Economic Development from the London School of Economics and currently is also involved in teaching and research at the Latinamerican faculty of Social Sciences, FLASCO.

According to political sources Ms Nahón played an active part in the defence of Argentine protectionist measures strongly criticized by other members of the World Trade Organization. She is also part of the team that regularly negotiates trade issues with Brazil.

The new ambassador in Portugal, Argüello while in the US had to endure several tension episodes with the hedge funds that claim millions of dollars from Argentina. The situation has been postponed until February following the ruling of a New York Appeals Court.

Argüello before becoming ambassador in Washington was the head of the Argentine mission before the United Nations.

 

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1 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:22 am Report abuse
Could they have pícked a more porteña looking woman if they had wanted to? Man she's so typical.
2 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:56 am Report abuse
“Economics degree from the University of Buenos Aires” - University of FAIL

”Cenda think-tank (Centre of Studies for the Development of Argentina)“ - A not-think tank perchance? as I don't see any development.

”She is a personal friend of Axel Kicillof“ - Personal Friend of Mr Business Failure himself. Woopee woo.

”Ms Nahón is married to an Aerolineas Argentinas manager, Sergio Garcia Gomez and they have two children.” - Married to a manager at the biggest business failure the world has seen, and where did that $2billion for new planes given to La Campora go?

Need I go on? This is yet another stooge that the americans will quite rightly refuse point-blank to engage with at any kind of diplomatic level. She looks like the 'shouty' air stewardess they sent to london, but this one might actually know who marx is, and why his economics never worked.... ever.
3 Alexei (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 11:05 am Report abuse
Bottle blonde.
4 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:14 pm Report abuse
Well this wman looks nothing better than the ones that ply the ports in Argentina when the cruiseliners come in,where do you get these dirty looking birds from????? diplomat?? what a joke
5 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:26 pm Report abuse
'I like marx, he's dead interesting, I even read his book about shades of grey, and I did a part time degree, I'm dead brainy me, that Kicillof is dead good, he loves marx too, and my husband works for that company that's doing really well.... repeat donec mortuus'

Her clearly dyed hair aside, where the hell do they find these people? Are they supposed to be diplomats? Do they know what the word means?
6 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
It is probably a carefully chosen bad picture. The picture editor has a dark sense of humour here. I am sure she will put some clothes on and brush her hair before taking up her new position.
7 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:52 pm Report abuse
ElaineB I certainly hope she smells better than she looks LOL
8 falklandlad (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:53 pm Report abuse
What a career ride for Amb Argüello: United Nations, Washington DC, and now Lisbon... another way for saying he's been put out to grass! That's some nice recompense for spinning all those awful Falklands lies for the Kirchners.
9 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:01 pm Report abuse
I am not sure what her looks has to do with anything, however, with words like “militant” and “marx”, it's should seem obvious to the people of Argentina what direction asslips is moving in. Argentina is fast becoming the new “Venezcubina”.

Restricted trade
government controlled media
one party rule
government owned economy

At any rate, it's the people of Argentina that are losing. ANyone is better than Arguello. I suppose that she can't be worse than Arguello and maybe she can get past the security gate at US State......lol. That will be farther than Arguello ever made it.
10 Condorito (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:13 pm Report abuse
Washington to Lisboa, for me that's a promotion.
Tenho saudades de ti, Lisboa!
11 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:16 pm Report abuse
@Condorito Washinton to Lisbon a promotion?? are you stupid or just have very low expectations in your life
12 yankeeboy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
Putting someone so young and inexperienced in such an important position idiotic and probably suicide for Argentina.

She may finally be the one who gets their Embassy status revoked.

Maybe that Isolation thing Toby keeps harping about will really happen!

My guess is it will take Argentina at least 1 generation to fix all the damage this nutbag has caused.
13 Idlehands (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
That picture is just a clip of her while she was accepting some sort of award from hysterical Hector. If you google her name it's actually one of the better ones.

Of more concern is her belief that Marx had anything useful to add to economics
14 Condorito (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:46 pm Report abuse
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If preferring Lisbon to Washington makes me stupid in your book, then stupid it is.
15 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:04 pm Report abuse
I like Lisbon and Washington DC but in diplomatic terms it is a demotion. Washington DC is the premier diplomatic placement. It really is the hub of power, whether we like it or not. :)

It kind of does matter what she (or a he) looks like in diplomatic circles. It would not do to turn up to meetings with bare shoulders and bed-hair if you want to be taken seriously. However, as I suspected, that is not her usual attire in the picture.
16 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
Yep.
“Marx” and “Militant” two words, sure to go down well in the US, can see their state department falling over themselfs to be helpfull towards her.
17 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:13 pm Report abuse
@Condorito Yes it makes you stupid I think our dear friend ElaineB explained it correctly senior diplomatic post are to countrys like USA certainly not Lisbon Portugal and ofcourse our dear British diplomats are always titled that go to Washington our current Ambassadore is His Excellency SIR Peter Westmacott,now thats how an ambassdore should sound
18 yankeeboy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
No matter who they put in as Ambassador the doors are shut to Argentina.
The USA has already put in motion a punishment for boarding our Military Jet. We will destroy them. All legally slow and steady so we can watch the pain. We have done it before and we like that method.
It might be hard to sell SOY when you can't do it with the U$. That punishment isn't just reserved for our Militaristic Enemies.

There are a lot of empty Embassies in DC I wonder if theirs will be next.
19 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
How long did that scenario go on with the US military jet? I thought it was brave and stupid of SS Cristina to behave like that,Obama should have took her out once and for all
20 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
I should think if you were a diplomat, a posting to DC, could be compared to being the “Cherry On Top of The Cake.”
21 Condorito (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
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Yes, I agree with Elaine too.

Note: at 10 I am making a declaration of personal preference, not a reference to Argüello's career path. However, if I were Argüello, I would be doubly happy. Firstly going to Lisbon and secondly being distanced from CFK’s inner circle.

So doubly happy and doubly stupid, that's me ;)
22 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:27 pm Report abuse
Is lisbon even a real diplomatic posting or have they just created a 'cupboard' within which this man can sit until his retirement?

Posting a militant marxist to Washington DC, is an interesting decision.
23 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:31 pm Report abuse
Condorito
Agree, nice safe, quiet, pleasant posting, time to work on his memoirs I should think.
24 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:32 pm Report abuse
Whats so nice about Lisbon??? deep austerity in Portugal now.
25 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:33 pm Report abuse
Hey! I didn't call Condorito stupid and I want to make that clear. I think he was stating that it is not a bad place to be posted and I agree Lisbon is a lovely city in a beautiful country. My point is that it is an inferior diplomatic posting.

Not all US Ambassadors are titled but they usually are awarded a title on retirement if they don't have one.
26 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
Lisbon, Madrid, Athens... none are going to be a great political posting. The most important thing about this article is why didn't this lady pay a better hair salon to do her hair? It looks like she dyed it herself, in the dark, in front of a strobe light with rotating mirror walls to disorientate herself.

Is she called 'roots' by her friends?
27 yankeeboy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:40 pm Report abuse
Andy, It was a very brief skirmish. Frankly I think it shocked the US personnel, we were invited in to do Police training, Timmerman boarded the jet with Customs Officials and a TV crew and as soon as they de-planed the jet took off without RG clearance. The Customs officials confiscated a few communications devices then returned them after an official complaint.
That was the end of any good relations with the USA.
That's when we started voting against them at the Int'l banks and when they were denied meetings at State and Prez, they lost their trade preferences (16,000 layoffs in Mendoza's wine industry is a direct consequence). There is also a bill in Congress that will bring them closer to the isolation they want and deserve. It should pass next year.
Of course we're doing it all legally, Slow and Steady so we can watch the pain.
I love the USA!
28 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
@27 Isn't Timmerman an american citizen? His extended family all live in the USA (and israel of course) and he maintains a minimal footprint in Argentina, as he and his family spend most of their time in the USA. I think they were mainly educated in the USA too. Curious that he would then be annoying the USA, a country to which he holds allegiance and deep influence amongst the jewish community in NYC.
29 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
Yankeeboy

Didn't I read somewhere that they claimed to have found drugs? and in, of all palces!!!! The medical kits!!!!!!!!
30 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
can we all just focus on the word 'expert' for a minute? like ... as if she is one.
31 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
@yankeeboy LOL Brilliant I have also heard mutterings for Pres Obama to remove Argentina as a special none nato country that receives military expertise or something which I hope he does remove that status soon further more do you not all believe Kirchner is being very provocative with her choices with Ambassadores like went she sent that rat Alicia castro to London all she does is talk about how Argentina is a lovely friendly country and how they have been given a huge in justice over the years by the British I think Kirchner is playing a dangerous game by some of her choices. here is a clip of Casto trying to ambush the British Foriehn Secretary which was a disgracful abuse of protocol.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8QT3s4ojxs
32 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
The United States is not a major diplomatic post for Argentina. A debtor nation that increasingly must grovel to China in order to not founder on its arrears is not a seat of power. They have no control over their national budget, how could they wield puissant sway on anything else? Those halcyon heydays are fading memories; now the United States lingers principally because of past reputation (fumes). Argentina does not have an exigent agenda with them that requires the appointment of some sagacious diplomatic doyen. And besides, checked the murder rate for the US capital? 23 per 100k... 23!! Many districts look like Port-au-Prince after the earthquake. Were the murder rate in Buenos Aires as high as that, the goverment would have been toppled long ago.
33 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:59 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus Is this not some kind of Lezbian Trist Kirchner ,Castro Nahon though we are very concerned how dirty and un kept she looks
34 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
It's frump-o'clock again.

tick-tock-tick...BONG BONG BONG
35 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
Keep it up Brit, with your sublime intellectual comments, you are depicting a mental image of education and deportment of your society for the rest of the world that will positively impress all who stumble upon their sight.

NOT.
36 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
LMFHO. “The United States is not a major diplomatic post for Argentina.”

Yeah, sure, stop mixing alcohol with your medication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
37 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:22 pm Report abuse
@35 tick-tock-tick BONG BONG BONG

*the frump-cuckoo comes out of the doors at the front and looks obliquely at the picture of the frump before returning into the clock*

tick-tock-tick
38 yankeeboy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:23 pm Report abuse
36. They don't allow medications to be imported. That is why these RG posters are getting more delusional by the hour.
39 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:23 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus Sorry if I offend you but I could not give a rats knackers what you think,as I always tell you TRUTH HURTS now go spend your day swinging on your dear leaders titties Oh I forgot you say your in Canada another Great country your obviously oppressed family had to flee to
Loooooooser
40 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
Well it is obvious that famished, esurient posters make exceedingly poor debaters. When all of you have received your rations of government food aid, and can string cogent statements together, I shall return.
41 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:28 pm Report abuse
Did we get a response about timmerman and family being american citizens and therefore under the power of the USA through allegiance?

Doesn't really go with KFCs rants when you consider this.
42 Pete Bog (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
@35
“ you are depicting a mental image of education and deportment of your society for the rest of the world that will positively impress all who stumble upon their sight.

NOT”.
Like all Argentine ambassadors then.
43 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:41 pm Report abuse
I personally think Argentinian ambassadors are expected to utilise a machine that is a cross between a Van der Graaf generator and a centripetal fairground ride with a desk in the middle where they are expected to get dressed and do their make-up. Once they have completed the 10minute experience they are then forcefully ejected into a press conference where photos are taken.

This is what I've heard from sauces in Argentina, allegedly.
44 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
@42

We don't need scholarly ambassadors, we have disencumbered ourselves from most onerous alliances and slavish arrangements with entities.
45 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
This as to be the best example of someone out of there deph, she should not be in the job send her back to her Crstinahttp
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkEMS7diuDc
46 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
Nosey
Do you actually speak english like you type it, because people are going to start to wander if your text books were written by Dickens, or whether you checked them out of the Victoria and Albert Museum.
47 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
@44 sure, you rate your ambassadors on how 'shouty' they can be in inappropriate social situations.

Not unlike Autism, really.
48 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:21 pm Report abuse
It was nice to hear Madame the rat Alicia Castro admit that Argentina is an immagrant country,no different to the falklands
49 malicious bloke (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:34 pm Report abuse
@14, Lisbon and Washington are both horrid. Portugal and the US both have some lovely places to visit, why did they have to make their capitals such utter shitholes?

Although maybe it's just me and my ingrained dislike of big smelly cities. I suppose it comes with the territory if you live and work in an embassy...
50 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:40 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus we always manage to chase you of typical Argentine RUN RUN RUN when the going gets tuff
51 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
@49. It is probably just you. Both are beautiful cities. I doubt you have visited either.

“Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman rejected claims that Jorge Argüello’s transfer from Ambassador to the US, to that of Portugal was linked with a rift with Domestic Trade Secretary Guillermo Moreno.” If it is not true, why did he have to make an issue out of it?
52 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:00 pm Report abuse
@46

No I don't. I'm cognizant enough to understand I have to ratchet down my vocabulary level when I post here, so I palaver in order to make communication feasible.
53 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:00 pm Report abuse
@ElaineB I was quoted recently by a lovely Argentine lady and she said

”isn't it funny that the Islands are the only part of Argentina that is peaceful, prosperous and doesn't have corruption”

Such truthful and meaningful words don't you think.
54 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:02 pm Report abuse
I've been to both Lisbon and Washington.

“Foreign Minister Héctor 'american citizen' Timerman rejected claims that Jorge Argüello’s transfer into a cupboard was linked with a rift with the supreme soviet'

if it wasn't because of a rift, then the only other explanation is that it was caused by recognition of his complete lack of ability.
55 ProRG_American (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:03 pm Report abuse
Congratulations Ms. Nahón. Welcome to the United States. We are proud to have you as the Representative of the Argentine people. You seem to be a perfect fit for such an important post.
Congratulations to Emb. Arguello for a job well done, particularly in his efforts in expressing Argentinas possition to the United states and the world on matters such as the FIG conspiracy and Scavangers such as the Vulture funds.
Good luck to you!
56 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:08 pm Report abuse
@55 FYI you have quite a lot of dried spittle on your lapel.
57 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:15 pm Report abuse
Arguello was not appreciated by the Argentine government. Being kicked out of a prime posting after a year and demoted is a huge slap in the face for a diplomat.

I am guessing his idea for CFKC to speak to universities and make a complete fool of herself was unforgivable. We all know how long CFKC can carry a grudge so he should expect to spend his career in the wilderness for the foreseeable future.
58 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:17 pm Report abuse
@ProRG_American I hope you are going to remind miss nahon to get a good wash and tidy her hair and have a good shave
59 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
@57 yes, but it was a lot of fun for us to watch her presenting at those universities, so him falling on his diplomatic sword was all worth it. My personal favourite part was when she claimed to have got all of her YPF money from a long career as an expert lawyer.

That part was incredibly fun.
60 ProRG_American (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
This move just demonstartes the advancement Argentinas gender policies. In the past no one would have imagined to have a young woman assigned to such an important post. She is an economist who graduated with top honors from UBA and TLSE. She was a classmate of vice minister Axel Kicillof.
Her main task will be to reverse the trade deficit that Argentina has with the US. I am sure that she will be succesful. I am willing to help by buying their outstanding wine, lemons, and beef. Yeah! Where' the Beef!
61 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
@60 I don't think you know what the sidelined ambassador of a near-failed state does. They basically do nothing and write the odd rant to a newspaper. They certainty don't turn around trade deficits, not when they're a proclaimed Marxist.
62 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:33 pm Report abuse
@ProRG_American Are you for real?? Even China is quarantening your exports like corn your beef is shit and your lemons, well if Cristina stopped sucking on your lemons she would be a better looking bird perhaps thats the problem with Argentine women they suck on to many home grown lemons LOL oh and you my friend are the biggest of all the lemons
63 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:38 pm Report abuse
@60 She would not have the job if Argüello had not messed up so badly. One year in post is almost unheard of and to think the pro-K posters on here were singing his praises.

Wine, lemons and beef are all available in your local supermarket. Why do you pretend to be North American?
64 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:41 pm Report abuse
ProRG_American pretends to be North American because he is ashamed to be South American OR his parents fled Argen tina for a better life they could even be illegals who knows-LIKE TO CORRECT US Mr
65 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
Aye theres a few of them on here, lets see, I've spotted Canada, Australia, US and UK so far, bound to be more.
66 ChrisR (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
It is just like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Futile in the extreme and destined to deadly failure, just as AG always does.

Still, I await the first international snub this wannabe slapper manages: anybody take a bet as to how long it will take?
67 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
63 ElaineB

I totally agree with you. Imagine if posts of that type routinely changed their incumbents every year. What a mess. Continuity and relationship building is vital. Did you actually last a year?

As for picking on the new Amb for her hair and dress. I also agree with you that Mercopress does seem to have a nasty photo editor. That aside, it only matters when it's a woman. Very pathetic. Men can look however they want, almost, without criticism. A bit like TV presenters. The poor old females have to stay groomed, trim taunt and terrific or risk the axe. Then the men pump out John Sergeant and Co and that's all fine.
68 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:50 pm Report abuse
#60 ProRG_S.American....do this and tell me were in the USA you live, because no one here believes you are a USA citizen.......a legal one anyway.
69 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:50 pm Report abuse
This flagitious display of conniving is chutzpah at its raunchiest.
70 ProRG_American (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
You are all so comical.
71 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
As the late Kenny Everrett said, “It's all in the best possible taste!!!”
72 Pugol-H (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
Never did understand why girls with blond hair dye the roots brown, must take them hours!!

As for the rest of it, we could always wait and see how good she actually is at doing her job, before making judgments.

Let’s face it can’t be as bad as the Druid they sent here to the UK, she needs to join Jules in the Ecuadorian embassy. What a cute couple they would make standing on the little balcony, one could come out when the sun shines, and the other one when it rains.

As for Arguello (Who has clearly pissed off someone he shouldn’t have), whist Lisbon is undoubtedly a backwater posting in diplomatic terms when compared to Washington. He may not be too unhappy with it, nice quiet life till retirement (and going back to Argentina????), after all if you have the money nowhere is a bad place to live, it’s just cheaper for you.

I seem to remember (Yanks can verify this) that Washington DC is near to, or at the top of league for numbers of murders in the US.

In Lisbon few will be able to afford bullets, never mind guns to fire them. Soon be melting down the knives for scrap.
73 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
@ProRG_American You might think it commical but what really upsets you is in some of ore asumptions the truth lies NOW WHICH ONE IS IT
Shame .dislike or illegal
74 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@72 DC is not even in the top ten now, they have some of the strictest gun controls in the US. Detroit is still the trophy holder.

I think there has been a lot of redevelopment in DC over the last few years. I visit often and don't feel at all at risk, though there are some pretty bad suburbs. The 'ripple effect' has turned some of the dubious areas into expensive real-estate and added a vibrancy. It is a city hard to beat for great restaurants.

Yeah, Portugal is going through a tough time and the last time I was there they had a lot of refugees moving in, maybe they will be moving out now. It didn't spoil the city which is surprisingly attractive.
75 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
People are still trying to figure out what I said.

flagitious = like a criminal in vice and scandal
display = a public showing
conniving = to predend ignorance to a wrongdoing
chutzpah = completely unrestrained shamelessness
raunchiest = most vulgar and dirtiest.

“This flagitious display of conniving is chutzpah at its raunchiest.”

“This criminaly scandalous like vice public display of pretending to ignore such wrongdoing is completely unrestrained lack of shame at its most vulgar and dirtiest.”

Why use 25 words when 10 is better?
76 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
The British provided help to Portugal totaling upto £4.5 billion GBP,can you immagine Argentina doing the same?? I heard they were taking money from Alicia Castros x lover daddy Chavez,you could say it's a little like prostitution
77 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
75

Actually you self-centred little boy. If you look back since your post, not a single person made a single reference to it.

Chuckle chuckle (using a haughty voice)
78 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
I thought it had something to do with beating a dead horse! silly me.
79 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus I have told you before you are full of your own self importance and talk nothing but Arse and bollocks.
80 reality check (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
Wonder if hubby can get her family discount for the flight?
81 agent999 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus
“ ”
Chuckle chuckle
82 ptolemy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
Aerolineas Argentina is over run by La Campora (if not owned.) Cecilia Nahón is married to a manager there and a close friend of Kicillof too. It's not hard to see the link. You need a certain mindset and be part of the inner circle to be in Cristina's Government. I can't help but wonder when Timmerman will lose his job ( not the right mindset, you know..)
83 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
nostril ask mom for a second door on your bedroom, or you will never get your head through the single door to leave the room.

Detroit holds the record in per capita murders but not raw numbers. However the USA is still nearly that same as Argentina in murders. However, it is a bit difficult to compare data sets on thew two countries because of the population sets...one 40 million versus 316 million.
FYI Elaine, my state, Massahcusetts and New York have the strictest gun controls in the country. You will find that the most permissive states are the most outbackish and rural.
84 Shed-time (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 09:43 pm Report abuse
is it frump-o'clock yet?
85 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
@83 Thanks. I remember being told that there are severe restrictions on guns in the DC area and they have some of the strictest controls, I didn't know the strictest, if you will.
86 ptolemy (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
Interesting link relative to the above article: www.buenosairesherald.com/article/119694/musical-chairs-in-the-foreign-ministry-
87 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
Seems my Aregentine friends have retired to there rooms in defeat AGAIN.
88 ProRG_American (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 10:38 pm Report abuse
No, just like me they are recovering from the massive hangovers celebrating this weeks successes by CFK.
89 ElaineB (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 10:43 pm Report abuse
@86 Interesting. I am guessing Timerman must be worn out with dealing with the mad CFKC. Somehow he seems to get through each crisis even though he creates most of them. I guess he knows where the bodies are buried.
90 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
@ProRG_American You never listen so I will tell you again
With all the bad feeling around the world towards Argentina with the way she behaves as a country you have to be lucky all the time while these people have to be lucky just once,think about it
91 Frank (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 11:27 pm Report abuse
@88 ProRG RG . Getting your boat out of the 'boat pound' on a technicality is not something most of us would celebrate... mind you most of us wouldn't end up with our property impounded to start with.
92 andy65 (#) Dec 18th, 2012 - 11:35 pm Report abuse
I am surprised none of these bond holders go for a Aeroineas Argentines jet after all they are a nationalised airline now an airport could in pound one
93 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 12:37 am Report abuse
Frank they are coming home to a hero's parade and minting a memorial coin to commorate the event. The remain 44 sailors on heads......and their return as 22 couples on tails.
94 andy65 (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 12:43 am Report abuse
Kirchner as confirmed she will be going to greet the ship on it's return-another day of rantnig and raving.
95 ProRG_American (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:15 am Report abuse
I would like to hear THINKs view on this.
96 andy65 (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:50 am Report abuse
Think is thinking about it another piece of sh.t
97 yankeeboy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 02:36 am Report abuse
Think may be the only person left in the windy dust bowl of Chubut.

www.lanacion.com.ar/1537924-un-viaje-al-lugar-de-la-argentina-que-mas-rapido-pierde-poblacion
98 Nostrolldamus The 3rd (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 03:06 am Report abuse
The poster above is such a dolt.

www.visitingargentina.com/imagenes/mapas/mapa-de-chubut.jpg

Las Plumas is the seat of what I think the LEAST populated department (county) in Argentina.

hutchnews.com/todaystop/MON-HOLD-Population-Projections

minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/ground-level/archive/2011/03/almost-half-of-minnesota-counties-lost-population-this-decade.shtml

And since he is talking about something completely off-topic...

I guess I can remind some here that all the great writers and philosophers from Socrates to Cicero to Ghandi, Eistein, Churchill, Twain, Borges... all said at some point something like this:

”The measure/touchstone of a society/civilization is (determined) by how it treats the poor/it's children”.

I don't think being a country where children are 23 times more likely to be gunned down and blown away than in all other OECD nations helps in that cause...
99 Shed-time (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:06 am Report abuse
@98 Argentina fails to feed its (brown) children so they starve, and the white children they fail to educate them and instead brainwash with stories of nazi expansionism and nationalism through a terrorist organisation aligned to the executive branch of the government. I think your philosophers would have unanimously given argentina a zero in it's judgement.

Why bother going to Argentina anyways? you'd just get lied to, shot, and finally have all your stuff stolen off your beheaded corpse? Better that you go somewhere good instead.

Carry on.
100 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 12:49 pm Report abuse
with a poverty rate that exceeds 30%, higher the the brown skinned, argentina treats her poor well.
101 Shed-time (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
I'm not argentinian, because I have a moral structure, a backbone and I don't like theft. As a non-argentine, I think it's pretty disgraceful how they treat their children and poor people.

However, if I'd have been brought up in argentina, and brain addled through school doing lessons like 'the joy of stealing', and 'cheating level 20' and 'Learning about Adolf through Peron' then I'm not sure what sort of psychological state I would be in either. I'd like to think I could reject these teachings rather than end up being forced to join Maximo's terrorist group.

Certainly if I was born brown skinned it would have been terrible because mullet-strokers treat their first nations people terribly.

It's difficult to know.
102 yankeeboy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
Cap, The poverty rate is as false as the rest of Indec stats. The poverty rate may exceed 50% now and that is based on buying a days worth of food for $5.50 PESOS!! I'm pretty sure you can't eat on that anywhere in the world.

Toby, Please tell me why I am off topic for posting a current documentary about where Think lives? The question was where was he and I offered a reasoned response with documentation.
hahahaha
Dust bowl
I hear it is going to last for some time too
Too rainy on the Pampas and dry dry dry everywhere else.
Rut ro

Have they started planting rest of the SOY yet? ( psst they haven't)

I see Brazil is scolding Argentina for shutting off their Wheat without warning, no worries the USA will gladly fill the void.
I wonder when CFK will be begging us for wheat too?
Probably 2014
I will laugh and laugh
103 Shed-time (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
@102 if we include educational or cognitive poverty, then it's nearly 100%. However, in Argentina even someone who has no law degree or previous experience in law can have a massively successful law career that accrue $520mil in offshore funds.

Mullet-stroker's gonna stroke.
104 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
I guess when it comes down to it, the picking and choices asslips had are pretty thin. Trying to find someone with the samae marxist believes and that she can send to the USA and at the same time not offend as much as arguello did. Being educated in the UK she apparently has some knowledge in economics, but at 39 years old and no diplomatic experience............why would the USA accept her creditials?
105 yankeeboy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 06:50 pm Report abuse
How much of an “Trade Expert” do you have to be to shut off imports until you are told to turn them back on again?
Resume fluffer
Cap, What are the guidelines for accepting Ambassador credentials? I'm pretty sure as long as there are no outstanding warrants they're a shoe in.
I seriously think she may be the last RG Ambassador until they clean up their outstanding ICSID judgements and start behaving.
106 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
I am sure she will be a shoe unless she comes up with some militant or criminal background. If she has an attitude like asslips kirchner, she will make no progress whatsoever.
I know many of us non argentines want to see argentina pay the price for breaking treaties, thunmbing their nose to the developed world, defaulting and stealing 70 billion US dollars, repressing their people, restricting trade, clamping down on freedom of the press, but I disagree about her being the last ambassador. That would imply that diplomatic relations has ceased, which in effect the one of the final steps before war. Even though for all intense purposes diplomatic relations have been none existent (one sided.....arguello asking to be seen), they will remain open.
USA is competing in SA (save for argentina) with China and China's economic strength comes from selling to the USA, it's number one country and the EU the number one trading union. China is feeling more of the strain of this recession than the USA is and that leaves SA vulerable economically. SA does not even hit 1% of China's exports, so they see nothing in SA other a vast barren land to gather raw materials from. That's all SA is to China.......natural resources for Chinese needs. SA will learn, not no from their historical mistakes, they never do.
107 Shed-time (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
I'm pretty sure the USA would accept a piece of paper with a face drawn on it and the words 'argentine ambassador' underneath for diplomatic representation of the people's democratic republic of argentina.

Instead they get a marxist with a bad hairdresser. Bonus!
108 Captain Poppy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
We've had ambassador's from the former USSR and the were marxists, China is marxists, does the UK not have aambassador's representing marxists countries? You do have them from Cuba as well.
However, because we accept the officially, the reality is that practically they can accomplish nothing as she will accomplish nothing.
109 yankeeboy (#) Dec 19th, 2012 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
Cap, Having an Embassy in the USA is a privilege not a right and would be one more method to get them to come into alignment with the rest of the world. Think, Syria, Iraq, Iran...
I see it coming whether or not it happens is up to CFK and I am not usually wrong about these kinds of things...
110 British_Kirchnerist (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 06:41 pm Report abuse
Good news =) I think we're going to be hearing a lot more of this young lady as the K left develops a new generation of leaders; I could easily see her eventually take the position of one of her predecessors, Timmerman, and maybe one day even President?

#1 I think she looks pretty =) And certainly a cut above the boring formal look the prudish Elaine seems to assume for diplomats! Since you're on the subject, do you agree with me that Cristina is a beautiful woman? Does she look “portena” (as I here in Scotland don't know what the typical portena look is!)

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