Saturday, January 5th 2013 - 06:06 UTC

Court lifts recess: Cristina Fernandez resumes battle with Clarin and farmers

Argentina’s Civil and Commercial Court decided to lift the January judicial recess as requested by the administration of President Cristina Fernandez and also granted the cautionary measure appeal to the Argentine Rural Society (SRA) that blocks the presidential decree over the taking over of La Rural grounds in Palermo neighbourhood.

The Palermo grounds in Buenos Aires famous for its agro-shows dating back over a century

After an intense debate, court members Francisco de las Carreras, Ricardo Guarinoni and Graciela Medina decided to lift the traditional Judicial recess held in January, as they approved the measure presented by the SRA last Wednesday.

Simultaneously, the court accepted the Government's request to set “celerity” to the treatment of the Media Law, which means that those controversial articles (45 and 161) that hinder its application may be declared constitutional and thus the Clarin group could be forced to divest from all those licences above a cap established by the bill.

Last December 14, Judge Horacio Alfonso had ruled that the questioned articles were constitutional and ordered to rule out the injunction presented by the Clarín Group, but the Civil Court ordered instead the extension of the injunction after Alfonso's ruling was appealed.

Last week the Argentine Supreme Court said that until the Civil and Commercial Court rules on the matter, the Clarin group injunction stands.

The Cristina Fernandez administration made a dual presentation, one by cabinet chief Manuel Abal Median and another by the Audiovisual Communications regulator, Afcsa, headed by Martin Sabbatella.

In the case of the Palermo grounds famous for the annual agro-show, the ruling suspends the eviction on 20 January established by a decree signed by Cristina Fernandez, and there can be no innovation in the matter until the validity of the expropriation decree is decided.

SRA argued that decree 2552 was unconstitutional because there was no expropriation involved and the government must first inform the courts of its intention.

The decree simply declared the annulment of the Palermo grounds sale which took place in 1991 under the government of President Carlos Menem.
 

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1 TipsyThink (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:00 am Report abuse
CFK should battle with sóme farmérs and Clárins.
2 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 01:26 pm Report abuse
Eviction by decree! and they call themselfs a democracy. What sort of a democracy rules by decree? It's a new one on me, someone from Argentine care to explain, in words of one syllable please!

If she takes the farmers on, she will lose, no doubt of that. Somewhere near 50% of her income comes from Agricultural Exports, Soy, Wheat, Corn, Vegetable, cattle etc. Who I wonder? does she think produces these items?
YPF, what is she going to do? Nationalise the Agricultural Industry.

Laughable.
3 GeoffWard2 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 01:48 pm Report abuse
She may well be thinking of nationalising the agricultural industries and lands of Argentina. The Russians did this and the Cubans (and probably much of China in The Great Leap Forward), so she may favour this approach.
Trouble is, much of this prime land has been sold to foreigners, especially the Chinese, using Argentinian front-men.
The Chinese may not be well pleased that their land has been appropriated, and may not be as passive as the Spanish over Repsol.
4 ElaineB (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:49 pm Report abuse
'A Civil Court decided to lift the judicial recess and also granted the cautionary measure requested by the Argentine Rural Society (SRA) that blocks the presidential decree over the expropriation of La Rural grounds in Palermo neighbourhood'.
5 gabol67 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 03:17 pm Report abuse
Could some please tell me what is CFK “Master Plan”?

Cause what I see is just anger against her own people. I'm baffled by her actions. :(
6 ptolemy (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
@5
Marxism is her master plan.
The fight with the SRA is the one to watch. Even though it is fueled by vindictiveness, if CFK wins this, then the path is clear. All private property will be up for grabs (by the government.) The use of decree by CFK to govern is disgusting ,(to put it mildly) and I can not understand why it's constant and arbitrary use is not questioned by the people.
7 redpoll (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
This harridan is not interested in the welfare of Argentina though she plays the patriotic card all the time for the masses All she is interested in is increasing her own fortune. Expect a campaign against the farming “oligarchs” which most of them are not. But as they have crossed her will and will now be branded as kulaks and ruined as Stalin did to the Russian agriculturists. Once she has completely ruined the farming sector she will have to start importing wheat and beef to feed her followers as did the Communist regime in Russia. Some Argentine farmers have seen the writing on the wall and have transfered thier options to Uruguay and Paraguay
8 Shed-time (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:54 pm Report abuse
@6 Marxism is NOT her master plan. She's in no way a marxist and all this talk of socialism is just a thin façade used to charm the poor and disenfranchised into voting and continuing to vote for her. Marxism is the carrot for the donkey-masses.

Given that she's peronist, she's technically a fasco-corporatist. She's interested in lining her own pockets and making herself incredibly wealthy. She'll use fascism and authoritarianism to achieve this will all be under the mantle of a cult of personality.

She doesn't expropriate for political reasons, only personal reasons.
9 redpoll (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
Shed I would agree. She is just a vindictive meglomaniac and I wouldnt put anything past her. Elected with 54% of the vote? Yes but what is her popularity rating now? Hitler too was elected by popular vote But sooner or later these crypyo Fascists/communists ( same thing really) come to a sticky end like Mussolini and his mistress on display hanged upside down at an Italian petrol station. As for Timmerman her obedient sidekick, perhaps he should take time to reflect on the fate of hisGerman colleague Ribbentrop
Like Hitler she will try anything. I expect a diatribe anytime against my country Uruguay on the basis that it part of Argentina and invade us and declare an anschluss. Our armed forces may be weak and easily overwhealmed but the Uruguayan people, a pacific nation, will not stand for that. Apart from a few Quislings, folk of all political colours wil resist any such attempt A fantasy maybe?? But I wouldnt bet on any whims of that harridan
10 briton (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 01:37 am Report abuse
Its merely government chit chat for stealing,
What she cant get legally.
11 CJvR (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:00 am Report abuse
So Donna Quixote is going to have another go at her windmills.

I have to say that is seems to be more Christina Mugabe than Christina Lenin.
12 yosoy (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 11:34 am Report abuse
What I don't understand is: If Kirchnerists hate Clarín because it is a monopoly, why dont they hate Cristina? as surely Kirchnerism has the greatest monopoly of all over the political system?
CFK boasts many of the bad attributes of the dictionary definition of monopoly - no real contenders on the same size and scale, going any lengths to stamp out competition (though limiting free press and promoting propaganda); ripping off customers to gain benefits for herself, customers (voters) significantly worse off than in a competitive market, with no innovation or improvements to the product (country) given this lack of competition.... Sounds more like telecoms in Mexico than a viable political system.
So next time a Kirchnerist tells you monopolies are evil, then ask them why they support Cristina? But I guess that is one of the many mysterious hypocracies of Kirchnerism that CFK fanatics choose to ignore.
13 Optimus_Princeps (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 01:10 pm Report abuse
@12 I like your logical train of thought. However, have you not noticed how deep the abyss of insanity is for some of Cristina's followers?

You can see some fine examples right here in this thread. You will also notice their inability to acknowledge reason, and instead opt for a dillusional fantasy.

I'm under the impression that some of the judges will be ticked because their vacations were cut short. Ruining their cruises and ski trips isn't exactly a way to win friends and influence people.
14 Shed-time (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 02:44 pm Report abuse
@12,13 It's worse than that. Personism is the political monopoly in Argentina, with nearly every political party and union organisation professing to be more Peronist than the next.

Peronism, however, is just Hitlerism, and they have all this until the end of time.
15 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
Hissy Chrissy says judges acting beyond thier powers in questioning her DECREE to expropriate the RUals Palermo premises (BA Herald today) I dont think that will go down very well with the judicary
16 Shed-time (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
@15 It's normal for judges to question the motives behind common thievery. No doubt this land will be cut up and apportioned to her closest of allies, and maximo for a new hotel of course.

Not a drop of honour.
17 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:59 pm Report abuse
Shed. The last time she took on the farmers and this is just the harridans vindictive revenge
18 agent999 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
The reason she is really after Clarion is their support of the farmers in the past.

But lets not forget she is just a modern democratic dictator.
19 Shed-time (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
@17,18 If she was truly a communist as her left-wing speech suggests, then she would be united with the unions and farmers. Even Mao's strength was through the farmer, as a Marxist.

However, as truly a Fascist-corporatist she has no love for the worker, nor the farmer. She just wants to line her own pockets.
20 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:51 pm Report abuse
The farmers can really knanacker the economy if they want to. No more beef going into Liniers market? Uproar among her starving followers
21 agent999 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
To be honest I would not want to be a farmer, very long hours, lots of hard labour, no huge rewards, dependant on our very unpredictable weather.
22 Pete Bog (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@19
As CFK appears to utilise Nazi-style propaganda, I have assumed she had an admiration for Herr Hitler(who was also elected, and ruled through decree).

His success was based on the German farming vote, which CFK rejects.
Your point about her being a corporatist makes sense (she doesn't want top mix with the plebs).
23 briton (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 12:02 am Report abuse
she is finnished is she not,

its justa matter of time.
24 Conqueror (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
@9 Surely you need to be more definitive. I would read “54% of the vote” as meaning 54% of the electorate, wouldn't you? But she didn't do that. What percentage of the electorate didn't vote? 21.11% wasn't it? So, in reality, she was elected with the support of less than 42.7% of the electorate. If Uruguay wants to get anywhere, and be respected, you need to get rid of Mujica. A frightened, senile, old, CFK yes-man. I seem to recall that, in December 1939, Uruguay had the guts to do the right thing. What would Mujica have done?
25 ChrisR (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 03:23 pm Report abuse
As I have repeatedly stated on these posts it was 32.6% of the people eligible to vote (using the governments own polling results). The 54% relates ONLY to those who voted. When you remember that everyone in AG MUST vote it says something that so many did not.

But IF she gets the constitution amended as she has always wanted, though coyly saying she was ‘leaving it to the people’ the rule by decree will become the norm. Then there MAY be some resistance as the decrees get even more dictatorial.

I think the only way for Uruguay to avoid an AG invasion is to ally themselves with the Americans as fast as possible. To some extent it does not matter what we have to give in exchange. ANYTHING is better than being under TMBOA stiletto heel.

I cannot see that happening whilst Pepe is the President.

I really hope that she is dealt with (by execution or assassination) before invasion has a chance to happen.
26 Simon68 (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
Chris, your figures are absolutely correct, the huge number of voters that refused to vote was due to the total lack of a viable opposition candidate, but I think things will change now for the mid-term elections, the people realize that abstaining from voting is no use, and will give their vote to whoever shows a strong platform.

Personally I would like to see Julio Cobos present himself as a candidate for Congress!!!!!!
27 Optimus_Princeps (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
@25 I really don't think our military is fit for that kind of operation, but sadly I think Cristina is unpredictable and unstable enough to do something stupid.

Don't you think that there are a number of people on the side lines that wouldn't be more than willing to give Botox face a well deserved b#@$! slap? I doubt something like that will happen, but anything's possible.
28 ProRG_American (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
Another great battle ensues. Steadfast Mdme. President. Don't give up the fight now.
29 redpoll (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
@ 28 Please dont Mdme President. You look stupider and stupider as each day goes by
30 briton (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 01:10 am Report abuse
nothing changes him then .lol.
31 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
Good news, let the battle (re)commence =)

#11 Don Quixote was the good guy =)

#12 Its not Cristina's fault that none of her opponents in Argentina or indeed abroad come close to her in brains, beauty or boldness =)
32 redpoll (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
@31 “Don Quitoxe was the good guy” so presumably the windmills were the bad guys. So hadaway and fight em ye wee kilty galloway. Wey hod on a minute; Werent ye rather in favour of them on another thread?
Turncoat!

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