Argentine leaders’ ‘creative lies’ according to a leading Italian newspaper
A leading Italian newspaper has published a very critical piece on Argentina, its honesty and what it describes as the succession of ‘creative lies’ in the country’s recent history going back to the myth about Evita Peron, the blood thirsty generals, Maradona, Carlos Menem one peso/one dollar, Cristina Kirchner and the latest the clash with the IMF over manipulation of official inflation and GDP stats.
Under the heading of “Creative lies from Argentine friends Maradona, Kirchner and false stats”, the Corriere della Sera begins the article in the front page with the IMF ‘declaration of censure’ and enumerates a succession of events including the famous ‘1 dollar equals 1 Peso’ from President Carlos Menem time that led to the massive default of 2001 and heavy losses, among others, to 300.000 Italian pensioners holders of Argentine sovereign bonds: the so called in Italy, ‘tango-bonds’.
“Argentine candidates lie to the people, and they know it. They also lie if elected during and after leaving office, and the long tradition of exaggerations, omissions, conspiration and hearsays which always crop up are considered matters of State”, writes Rocco Cotroneo who works for the Italian daily from Brazil.
“It’s as if the whole nation lied before the world. Obviously it is not so and millions of serious, honest and hardworking Argentines are evidence to this; but also suffering as beaten dogs, as has happened these days with the umpteenth foolish incident, this time with the IMF.
“Cristina Kirchner as her husband Nestor, have been cheating with the inflation stats for years, plus the refusal to publish some stats that are key to the economy, ‘unconceivable for a democracy’ “.
The article then quotes the great Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges who referring to the Peronists (the largest political movement in Argentina) and the spiritual mentors of Cristina Fernandez said: “they are not good or bad, they are simply incorrigible”.
Rocco points out to the current history revisionism, involving Evita Peron, “Cristina Fernandez maximum myth” , full of white lies beginning with her age: “she was not born in 1922, but in 1919 and the Broadway musical exaggerated her background, she was not of a miserable origin but rather belonged to a middle class solid family; however official propaganda did the job”.
As to the military dictatorships they lied to the country most of the time and to the world: the blood-thirsty generals denied torturing and massacring their own people, declared victory over the UK during the Falklands’ war…and Carlos Menem did not lose the habit. He made the Argentine believe during ten years that One Peso was the same as One Dollar until the tragic end with the ‘tango-bonds’
And let’s not forget the famous hand of God of Maradona during the match with England at the World Cup in 1986, who denied having scored with his fist but rather that it had been ‘the hand of God’.
However in an honest admission Rocco says that in all these lies and cheatings, Italians have a share of blame: “over 50% of the blood circulating in the River Plate comes from our backyard”.
Finally the piece concludes recalling what president Cristina Fernandez confessed to a Harvard student: “I always speak with journalists” although to be honest “in seven years the lady President has never held any press conference with the Argentine media”.








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you can fool part of the world all of the time,you can fool all the world part of the time,but with the internet they will learn the TRUTH
Not one cent is going to the italians who are owed, simple as that. Suck it up like the rest of the nations of the world. Argentina will do as it pleases with OUR money.
Reminds me of the boy who cried wolf.... eventually lies catch up with you.
They should be correcting their own mistakes together with the UK!
I'm not European you deformed slime of euro-trash. I would have killed myself years ago had that been the case.
1. Deny the Falklanders self-determination rights.
2. Insult anyone's mother.
The rest of you deny Argentines self-determination, and insult my mother. That sums the class, honor, morality, and probity of the average European and their bastard children in North America and Australasia.
Thank you for not being one of you.
The sooner The old Botox Queen joins her dead husband Nazi Nestor the better all round
And you are no different now than from the time you were torturing and deracinating each other in the Cromwell era.
Nothing is happening in Argentina. IMF has no power over us (we paid them off), bondholders are will never see a cent, and UK, US, EU, Japan, Brazil, China et all have lost against Argentina in the trade war.
Maybe one day Europe will reach our level.
Mendoza #1.
If there is one thing I HAVE NEVER DONE HERE IS TWO THINGS:
1. Deny the Falklanders self-determination rights.
2. Insult anyone's mother.
The rest of you deny Argentines self-determination, and insult my mother. That sums the class, honor, morality, and probity of the average European and their bastard children in North America and Australasia.
Oh, stop being a child.
We'll call you names and insult you, just as you do to us.
This moral indignation of yours is petty and ridiculous.
Grow up, and stop pouting. Pull that lower lip back in.
Next, you'll be saying we're offending God and mothers are sacred, yadda yadda yadda... Good grief, do you know how juvenile you sound?
you're gonna burst a blood vessel if you keep screenstaring so furiously @ mercopress comments. The whole world sees your country has been a continual failure since 1960, and you'll be painfully reminded of that again SOON enough ;)
Think/don't drink before you type: you're coming across as racist/anti-Semitic whether you are or not. You're sounding as childish as Nostrolldamus...
It is a sad indictment to see the Latin members of the EU turning their attentions way south notwithstanding the bonds of culture and history.
I actually agree and support you to a degree there is no place for the filth that Andy65 is spewing (pull ya head in mate) and he can thank me if his comment is removed. But try to take the high road sometimes mate, insulting people like me for no reason with comments like average European and their bastard children in North America and Australasia is the reason we all think you are 12.
I'm Australian with a purely European background. I'm proud of that. Especially considering, racially, Argentina has a higher European population than Australia.
Attacking Italians or Europeans is proof of what this article was highlighting. Populism in the Argentina body-politic is Argentina's own worse enemy. It can't keep blaming everyone else for its own misdeeds and problems.
Mendoza may be everything you claim it to be, but it is still part of Argentina and as an Argentinean you have to take responsibility for that too.
The only people Argentinians are fooling are themselves, apparently.
The cultural strategy of Viveza Criolla is an important part of being Argentine. Basically lying to people and then laughing at them once you've cheated them out of money or something else is how they work as a society.
I always find it funny when you slag off Europeans. It's especially funny as you are of European descent. All your neighbours are of European descent. Your country is of European descent. The language you speak is a European language.
So what you are really saying is that you hate yourself. And that I can believe.
Oh, and don't give me any of that 'I'm a native Amerindian' crap, because you're not, except in your own imgination.
Your government are liars. In the past few days alone they have told such blatant lies, that it actually beggars belief.
People like you Tobias, are what is wrong with Argentina. Refusing to accept responsibility. Refusing to accept that you are flawed. Refusing to accept reality.
The more your government lies and has hysterical outbursts, the more trouble Argentina actually has. Burying your head in the sand won't save you Tobias.
Denying the reality of what is happening won't save you Tobias. Pretending everything is okay won't save you Tobias.
The crap is building up, and soon it will hit the fan.
The question is what will Argentina do? Accept that these problems are all self-inflicted or adopt the usual stance of blaming everyone else in the world?
Argentina needs a government made up of serious people who will encourage investment in Argentina, which will allow you to tap your natural resources. These can then be sold at market value to produce a lot of wealth for the country, but the government needs to invest any revenue in Argentina, and not use it to make themselves richer.
With the right government Argentina's infrastructure would improve. It's schools and hospitals would improve. The standard of living for everyone, especially the poor, would improve.
By facing reality, there is a good chance that Argentina will overcome these difficulties. But it needs serious people who care more about Argentina and her people than they do about lining their own pockets.
Could it be that their new inflation index (the one that isn't powered by ArgentinaMaths) is showing inflation so critically high that it's worth effectively shutting down their retail sector? And what is going to happen in two months time when prices have gone up another 5%?
Additionally they want to use it to prevent the unions asking for a 25%+ pay hike every year, which given their grumblings is a broad indicator of the fact inflation is well above 25%.
It's just another method of stalling the IMF, who I would hope can see right through it.
Jealous perhaps?
I am trying to understand your racial origins and genetic background. Give or take, five hundred years ago there were virtually no Europeans in what is now Argentina.
The population would have been Amerindian.
Waves of settlers moved into the land from Spain originally and then migration mainly from other parts of Europe from mid 19th century onwards. This would mean a mainly white genetic gene pool with some interbreeding between other ethnic groups You can call yourselves Argentinian, but your genetic make up, in the main, came from Europe.
So, the point I am asking is, are the current Argentinian population a new species of mankind that have evolved within 300 years, and are markedly different from the rest of mankind ?
Your quote about Mendoza may be true but is it true for Argentina as a whole ?
@6 Everyone does. More evidence.
@7 Quite psychotic, aren't you?
@11 You had a mother? Don't believe it. It's not the way bacteria reproduce.
@15 Watch. There's always a way!
@17 Your shithole has nothing but what you've st0len.
@34 Best you can do? Let's explain. Almost anyone is more believable than an argie.
End of.
thats because you are colonising the land where the only legitimate self-determination belongs to the indigenous Amerindians, not to you European colonists.
simples
I will admit it is a pretty city but it is not what I would call cosmopolitan. It is also very dangerous and has US State Dept warnings to be careful when traveling. One thing that struck me as odd is they have open drainage ditches with little bridges to get form the road to the sidewalks. I would bet a lot of drunks miss those bridges!
1) are you suggesting that North Korea isn't a beautiful socialist utopia crowned with the sounds of children singing around the golden effigies of the glorious leader reaching out to pull people into the idealism of communist living in the beautiful city of Hoeryong (회령)? I do hope you're not.
2) are you suggesting that Argentina isn't a beautiful socialist utopia crowned with the sounds of children singing around the golden effigies of the glorious leader reaching out to pull people into the idealism of communist living in the city of Mendoza? I do hope you're not.
It's called history, something of course Europeans and Americans do much work to forget it is so ignominious.
Without those ditches (acequias), none of the trees you see in the city would survive, since the city lies in the world's 2nd highest rainshadow after Tibet.
why you don't not use all your wonderful piece of advise but in UK may be you are lucky and save your country to fall from the Dover cliff.
Will you...
Don't trust European we are liars, jealous people and like to steal other people's land. And tell everybody what to do but we don't like any critics because we are superior to everyone with few exception like the British of course. They are good for nothing, like parasites waiting a good opportunity to steal any piece of land.
We are also dirty I know very well that from my own experience I have 3 months without taking a shower and I still feel clean compared with the Brits of course that are more dirty than us.
I'm starting to hate myself and you know what?
I feel really good.
Well I'm feeling sad so let's put some humor to tis stupid discussion...
How many British are need to steal your country after you meet one?
None because you have no country anymore.
Ha ha ha
We call them storm drains.
Must be kinda cool living like its the late 1800s
Sad little creature trying to look worldly.
It would be charming if your personality wasn't so awful.
No one trust Europeans
That goes without saying. Argentina is the only nation on Earth that is standing up to them, and where we are taught the real history of European colonization & Imperaliasm for 400 years.
The saddest part is they think we hate them. Well' we sort of do, but only because to this day they refuse to say Sorry. If only they did that, oh how different things could be.
Paying the 137 trillion in economic damages to the Americas, Asia, and Africa would go the rest of the way, and they would be a respected culture again. But putting their heads in the sand about their past simply doesn't lend those that suffered their iniquities to attempt a reconciliation.
Imagine if I spit on you, threw mud at you, then stole your wallet and spent all the money... and then I was mad at YOU for being mean or hating me.
He could be eating their poison lemons or the tainted beef and it is making him a little more stupid day by day.
The Rg embassy can't do passports any longer they're asking the Rgs to fly back to BA and get them in the airport with a 1day turn around for U$300! My friend lost his passport and is terrified to go back because there is a rumor the is going to be a travel ban put in place shortly and he may get trapped.
Those rumors usually pan out
scary stuff
If you force people to go to BA they'd probably choose the cheapest method.
#19 keep up the good work buddy don't let this bastards impose their brainless backwards mentality on Argentina's news threads.
VIVA CFK Y QUE VIVA ARGENTINA.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/argentinian-foreign-minister-says-not-one-single-country-supports-uk-right-to-govern-over-falkland-islands-8481542.html
Imagine if I spit on you, threw mud at you, then stole your wallet and spent all the money... and then I was mad at YOU for being “mean” or “hating” me.
You just described Argentina!!
Ive been to Mendoza. Im not the only one who'll say there are nice parts for sure. There are also some truly hideous areas of poverty and crime that you wouldnt find to anywhere near the same scale in any Western European city. -Tobias- is deliberately misleading by focusing on the good stuff and ignoring the substantial bad stuff.
Rumours, from where? And on what grounds could they possibly do this? Any links?
WW
Why couldn't they do it? The law is whatever CFK wants it to be. I don't see it as being much different than not being able to exchange the peso or import (legal) products both of those things were doable just over a year ago and now they are not.
It is the next logical step to control the outbound U$ is it not?
Welsh I hope you don't live there.
The tide has turned against CFK and everything is going to get much worse very quickly.
Point taken, there is nothing technically stopping them, if you can change the law you can do anything and it would be an extension of stopping US$ from leaving the country.
I don't live there, the in-laws do so it would affect them (and to an extent, me). This is all starting to become quite interesting...27th Feb will be the big one...
Slowness to act is giving Kirchner to much confidence.
Oh, you are a joke arn't you?? I mean really, you are a joke!! Your country is the laughing stock of the UN and, as if to underline that, Laughing boy Timerman is in the UK, hoping that if he shouts loud enough, people will take him seriously when all he is doing is embarrassing himself.... KFC and her cronies have ruined your country and set ecomonic development back........oh, i'd say about 50 years and here you are, on here, with your bottom buddy, Pirat-Hunter, calling the Italians liars!!!!!!
You are a joke!! now, run along home to your mum, she will be worried that you are out so late.
Those with dual citizenship like myself won't tolerate such nonsense. Though some of my friends are in tears that this will happen soon. Botox is known to cause irrational and unpredictable behavior.
Despite that most of the population is overly docile for the amount of political abuse here, some people are on the verge of going on a scum bag shooting spree. I'm hoping things don't get that bad, but anything's possible.
Unfortunately Mendoza still has to live under the federal Argentine system, and thus has totally effed prices/inflation, etc.
but for the poetry
the naturaleza (like mine, here)
The wine culture
And the kissing was the best in the world.
Who believes the Italians? That would be just about everyone .. including the overwhelming majority of Argentinians. Next stupid question?
MPs slam Argentina on islands poll
The Argentine foreign minister has been involved in heated exchanges with MPs after he insisted the Falkland Islanders had no right to self-determination.
Appearing at a meeting of the all-party group on Argentina at Westminster, Hector Timerman insisted he wanted to open a dialogue with Britain.
But there was anger when he made clear that Buenos Aires would not recognise the result of a referendum of the islanders next month on whether they wished to remain part of the British Overseas Territories.
Earlier, he used a newspaper interview to claim that the islands would be under Argentine control within 20 years, while denouncing the British as fanatics.
The Falklands Islands parliament wrote to Mr Timerman warning no amount of harassment and intimidation would change their minds that they did not want to be ruled from Buenos Aires.
Mr Timerman, making his first visit to Britain as foreign minister, had previously rejected a meeting with Foreign Secretary William Hague after the Foreign Office insisted the islanders representatives must be present.
Appearing in a packed Commons committee room, Mr Timerman sought to assure MPs and peers that he wanted to start a dialogue with the UK as soon as possible.
However he ran into trouble when he insisted that the dispute over the Falklands was a matter for the two governments, and that there was no place for a referendum.
I am willing to listen to Mr Hague - anything he wants to tell me about the subjects he happens to represent, he said.
The self-determination referendum doesn't apply to the Malvinas. It is not a colonised people, it is a colonised territory.
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is a statement not a question.
Spain and Argentina don't trust Italy and the UK.
Argentinians are spanish speaking people.
And, yet again, an appallingly poor translation from MercoPress…....
Full of voluntary errors, exaggerations, omissions and assorted tall stories …..
Anyhow…..An interesting article from the ”Corriere della Sera”….
I recommend it:
www.corriere.it/esteri/13_febbraio_04/dai-tango-bond-alle-finte-statistiche-le-bugie-creative-dell-argentina-rocco-cotroneo_bc471f66-6e97-11e2-87c0-8aef4246cdc1.shtml#
I especially liked…(Correctly Traduced):
1) “Political candidates lie, this is known…. So many rulers do whilst in office and after…. But in Argentina, exaggerations, omissions and assorted tall stories are always a “matter of State”……
(Huhhhhhhhhh….!!! Politicians lying to the people…… ….. What a ”Unique” Argentinean trait.)
2) “ Evita Peron was not born in 1922, as she always said but in 1919”…….
(Huhhhhhhhhh….!!! A Lady lying about her age…… What a”Unique” Argentinean trait.)
3) “They lied to the Country and to the world, the murdering generals of the dictatorship”…….
(Huhhhhhhhhh….!!! Military Dictators lying to the World…… What a”Unique” Argentinean trait.)
4) In principle, Diego Maradona didn’t lie about his famous hand-goal against England at the World Cup in 1986…. He didnn’t deny it, he just said it was the “hand of god” ….
(Huhhhhhhhhh….!!! A Sportsman lying to the press…… What a”Unique” Argentinean trait.)
PS:
Black Market dollar going down, down, down…….
www.ambito.com/economia/mercados/monedas/dolar/
Oceania del Polonio, here I come :-)))
Actually, AR is a rich country, but bad politicians on after another such as Menen and CFK intentiannly try to wreck its economy. it can not become a world power.
Well you got an answer. Sorry if you couldn't handle the truth; but tough shit.
The true is that argentinians speak spanish and don't give a shit what the italian newspapers said.
Pay attention, read the UK newspapers printing the royal scandals, the british riots, etc.!
By the way, I hope you don't delude yourself that anyone in Spain trusts Argentina .. because they don't. And factually, Spain has better diplomatic relations with the UK than it does with Argentina … much better, so I guess Argentinians speaking pidgin Spanish doesn't hold as much sway as you assumed. Then again, hardly surprising, since Britain doesn't sneakily steal Spanish financial assets to shore up their laughable economy.
@74 sacharin
See above.
Likewise, no-one gives a monkey’s cuss what an deluded Argie thinks .. least of all what your Foreign Minister, Hector Zimmaframe, pretends to think in order to endear himself to the gullible Peronistas.
Royal scandals and riots? What royal scandals? Harry getting his kit off? Hardly a scandal .. his popularity ratings have soared. And it would behove you to be aware that Argentina has had quite literally dozens of major riots since there were last any in Britain. Do keep up with the news .. assuming they are allowed to report the truth in Argieland.
IMF declares them as LIARS
Bondholders holding out for FULL payment of debts (and rightly so)
More arguments in several organisations than any other country
Things can only get better (not)
Kind of had to pull out of a free fall .. and theirs is a one-way ticket to oblivion :D
You people did not want to believe me, but an anti-European wave has swept Argentina. Once people were taught in schools the truth about Europe in the now obligatory European Imperialism and Subjugation history class, we've woken up.
We've always been anti-US and anti-Latin Americans so that goes beyond saying.
Where is the lie in that title? Did the nations of Western Europe build empires by subjugating others, yes or no?
For they do your country a great disservice. And on an intellectual level you actually know this.
Propaganda and indoctrination by any government to further their agenda is a moral stain on a civil society.
Argentina was founded by Europeans. It is settled by European. It may not be European but it is OF Europe. It doesn't matter how you try to twist it, together with Chile it is the most European country in South America.
Denying your heritage is not only shameful but pitiful actually. You denigrate everything all your ancestor fought and strove for to give you all you now have.
www.myfoxny.com/story/20958959/argentina-freezes-prices-to-break-inflation-spiral
Everyone is out to get you! Its a huge conspiracy! LOLOL
uuuuuuujajajayaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Argentina don't give shit about enemies
I am not denigrating anyone from the past. They had to do what they had to do. Now, I have to do what I have to do. Argentina is being attacked by EARTH, as a famous aussie song said better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
I am ready to die, but to yield to the foreigners, NEVER.
”Nostrolldamus it is very sad indeed that you so happily place yourself in the same category as “Pirat Hunter, Sussie, Danny Berger, Josefa Malvinera”.
Yes, but he likes the attention, anyway.
:-)
I have to do what I have to do. What exactly is that ?
Argentina is being attacked by EARTH,
Now, if it were true, which it isn't , why do you think that is. Could it be your government's attitude to the rest of the world.
A good percentage of the world has never heard of Argentina and could care even less. According to your government Brasil, Venezuela, Ecuador and Iran are your great chums. What is your problem ?
“It doesn't matter how you try to twist it, together with Chile it is the most European country in South America”
Together with Chile?
I guess you are confused with Uruguay because Chilean are most Aborigines.
That guy did at least know about computers, some level of Blob-Technology and had a mixed up knowledge of their military.
The present incumbent is nothing but a badly educated argie and is unable to provide an intelligent comeback to any questions.
hahaha
I love Think's response, basically they are all white lies and everyone does that so why pick on Argentina?
Days go by with the Peso crashing yet nothing from El Thicko until it starts to go down then he is gleeful
but leaving out the reason it is going down, so let me fill you in..
CFK sent out gov't supporters to sell U$ to keep it under 8/1. The black mkt exchange is relatively small so a few U$100K can make a huge difference if it is coordinated. Too bad it will only be a short term dip because you can't fight the mkt forever.
Union are demanding at least a 35% wage increase in 2013 not the 16% CFK wanted initially.
I think she will find it hard to buy support with a worthless peso.
Finally...... somebody in here with some knowledge about Tango Bonds......
I jus want to add that many Italian private investors have successfully sued their Italian Banks for offering as Safe a product that was simply To Good to be True......
Regarding the bonds for Italian pensioners: I think the idea of caveat emptor is important to remember here. The bonds were offering 20 percent yields, which should have alerted someone to their fragility. Additionally, Italy took the bonds originally for income, and when they started to tank, they broke them up into $1000 bits and handed them over to the retirement system, thus assuring that the government wouldn't lose the money -- only the retirees. This is a tradegy and something that has been barely reported but needs to be said. To me it's a case of “a pox on both your houses” -- Argentina for creating the bonds and the Italians for buying them. Shame abounds.
who are you? NOTHING
THE FACT IS THAT NO ONE FROM THE UK TEAM GIVES THEIR REAL NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER MEANS THAT THE UK TEAM POSTING IN MERCOPRESS ARE AFRAID OF R E T A L I A T I O N!
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuujajaja!
Your observation is good. This world is full of financial criminals and terrorists, mainly centered in the US, the UK, and the EU, especially Germany (where Merkel, the prostitute numero una trying to hide and assist Deuche Bank for the its criminal speculation and losses).
@93Wryter47
Finally...... somebody in here with some knowledge about “Tango Bonds”......
I jus want to add that many Italian private investors have successfully sued their Italian Banks for offering as “Safe” a product that was simply “To Good to be True”......
Think, is Wryter47 from nowhere, another imaginary 'Think Persona'?
Is Dame Dover off tonight?
Your childish argument that the Italian pensioners got what they deserved for buying the bonds does not hold up.
Argentina is just as guilty of being criminally unethical for not paying the money back at 20% as bonds promising a yield at 5% - you still stole from them.
Is everyone bi-polar and delusional in that country?
Bare shelves, HUGE WAGE Protests just about to start, Soy and Corn withering in the fields, Rg dingbats running around the world making fools of themselves..where will it end
most likely
with
Devaluation, Hyperinflation and then a Generational Depression
There are many Argentinians who are really heros such as Che, selfless, idealistic revolutionary, who built socialist Cuba,
Ha, ha, ha.
AND I thought you were intelligent apart from the fact you love the fucking commies.
'Che' was the son of privilege and qualified as a doctor. Instead of helping the manifest poor he had (via a circuitous route and a motorcycle trip) to ‘make a difference’ by joining the revolution in Cuba and becoming second-in-command.
Despite many attempts at fitting in and helping run the country he failed. Castro realised he had made a mistake and to get him out of the way sent him to the UN. He managed to do a lot of anti-USA rants but still appeared on television. Round the world next and all the failed states N. Korea, etc. until he realised that the Soviet Union had forgotten Marx. Of course they had: all commies and fascists exist in government to line their own pockets.
And then he made his fatal error and fell into the hands of Castro: he sent a ‘farewell’ letter saying he would not return but devote his life to ‘revolution throughout the world’ when he was fomenting insurrection in the Congo.
Well, that didn’t go well and the Congo almost managed to kill him but he escaped.
Changing his appearance (brave man you know) he went to Bolivia and using the name Adolfo Mena González (good Nazi name that) and posing as a Uruguayo (he should be shot for that alone) he ponced around Bolivia until he met his nemesis, the US Special Forces advising the Bolivian military.
The rest they say is history. Captured he was executed on the direct orders of the Bolivian President.
All his life he had been unable to fit in with others which resulted in him being rejected by everyone he tried to help when they found him out. Even Fidel had to rescue him several times and keep changing his responsibilities to give him a new start.
Good riddance to crap.
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