Friday, February 8th 2013 - 05:04 UTC

Iran/Argentina agreement to Congress but Jewish community reject contents demand a new one

Argentine President Cristina Fernández announced she would send to Congress the recent agreement reached between Argentina and Iran in order to investigate the AMIA bombing in 1994, and assured that “the Argentine Justice will not be obstructed.”

The Argentine Justice will not be obstructed; we are not giving up our sovereignty, said President Cristina Fernandez (Pic TELAM)

“This agreement will help us move forward with this case and walk along the road to finding the truth,” she expressed in a pre-recorded message from the presidential office in the Government House.

However the agreement has become controversial from the moment the AMIA organization, contrary to when it was first officially announced, has rejected the deal, which includes the creation of an independent international ‘truth commission’, and is demanding the redrafting of a new accord.

Cristina Fernandez added that the accord, drafted by a committee of international legal experts, “is legally non-binding” and added that “the Argentine Justice will not be obstructed. We are not giving up our sovereignty.”

“This is a very important step in a case in which we had no chance of interrogating those we accused of taking part” in the terrorist attack, she explained. Before closing, she stressed that “Congress has the last word” on the agreement.

“It will be sent to Congress so it can be analyzed” and lawmakers can decide “whether it should be passed or not,” warning that “they are all obligated to take a stand on this matter.”

“I want to spare the families of the victims from the pain, and this country from the shame, and fundamentally find the road to move forward with a case that not only has been paralyzed for 19 years, it has also been moving backwards,” the President explained.

She concluded her 40-minute message by assuring that she is greatly committed to the AMIA cause.

The AMIA Jewish community centre in Buenos Aires was bombed by terrorists in 1994 leaving 85 people dead and hundreds injured. The case has remained unsolved ever since.

But AMIA president Guillermo Borger confirmed rejection of the deal which was also seriously questioned by Israel and the United States, particularly those chapters referred to the questioning of Iranian officials allegedly involved directly or indirectly in Argentina’s bloodiest terrorist attack.

“We need to re-draft the document, we need a new one, even when it takes time” insisted Borger who described the current deal as untimely and done without consulting the Jewish organizations, victims of the attacks.

“Iran is theocratic, unreliable, can’t be trusted, fundamentalist and denies the Holocaust. My mother has the concentration camp number stamped in her arm, so they can’t tell me the holocaust never existed. We do not accept Iran as a partner to trust, and much less when it comes to signing deals”, added Borger.

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1 Boovis (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 05:52 am Report abuse
“Hello, Mr Murderer, did you murder anyone”
“Me? No!”
“At last the truth” *pats self on back*

Sherlock Holmes has nothing on these super sleuths.
2 CJvR (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:09 am Report abuse
Well they share a lot of enemies so it would seem obvious that KFC would be keen on patching up relations with Amadjihadi.
3 Trunce (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:21 am Report abuse
According to Iran State News - the reason Argentina accused Iran, was because they were bullied by US and Israel.

“Under intense political pressure imposed by the US and Israel, Argentina had formally accused Iran of having carried out the bombing attack”
4 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:36 am Report abuse
94 Argentinians are murdered and she links it to a sovereignty issue! The woman is not only corrupt, she's also morally corrupt. I am sorry to say, but justice seems to be a rare commodity in Argentina.
5 LEPRecon (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:42 am Report abuse
The Jewish people in Argentina are obviously an inconvenience to the desperate ambitions of CFK.

Just like the native Amerindians are an inconvenience when she wants their land, or the unions are an inconvenience when they refuse to blindly believe all the nonsense she spouts. Just like the Constitution is an inconvenience when it won't allow her to do just what she wants to do.

And like all these inconveniences she just ignores them, and does what she wants anyway.

But carry on CFK, cosy up to Iran. Isolate Argentina from the sensible world.

You have just committed suicide for your country, as no one will lend you money, no one will trade 'desirable' items with you - in case you trade them with Iran.

Poor Argentina, and I mean POOR; no money, no friends, no future.
6 ElaineB (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:53 am Report abuse
Jews are an integral part of Argentina's history. Buenos Aires had the largest population of Jews outside of New York and Israel at one time. And let us not forget the first Gauchos were Jews. Fleeing persecution in Russia they settled in Argentina and worked the land. You can see the influence in the traditional costumes in Gauchos.

Still, if they are in the way of Nazi-style ambitions they will become non-people, like the Falkland Islanders and lumped into Timerman's 'Final Solution' he was bragging about yesterday.
7 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 11:36 am Report abuse
“Final Solution” Did ever two such words come together with such an horrendous meaning and memory!

Just when you think it would not be possible for this man to come out with anything more crass and stupid, he resurrects these two words.

What is more. he uses them in the right context. The means to an end of a territorial dispute.

He is not just inept, he is criminally inept.

I suppose we should be thankful for him really. Those two words are now going to be increasingly quoted and attributed to him in the coming discussions on the Islands.
8 Pirate Love (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
dont forget the real reason Mrs Kirchner......much needed TRADE even if it is with a terrorist state!
screw the argentine jewish population they are only your people, this is business.....missile technology for wheat!

North korea...Iran...??Argentina??
birds of a feather - spot the common link (Lack of H---n R----s)

9 Conqueror (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
At what point in time did argieland have any knowledge of “truth” or “justice”.

If argieland had any affinity with “truth”, it wouldn't tell so many lies about the Falkland Islands. And if it had any concept of “justice”, it wouldn't be plotting to dispossess the Islanders and steal everything they own. But that's argies!
10 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 02:01 pm Report abuse
I will repeat one more time: there is no difference between Iran, North Korea, and Europe, the UK, and the USA. Both are equally despicable nations. Why can't you people just accept that? Why ca't you people accept that TODAY you are commiting war crimes somewhere in the world?
11 LEPRecon (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
@10 - Nostil

Oh Tobias, showing off your ignorance again?

Well you seem to have missed out Argentina from you list, you old racist you.

Now you no absolutely NOTHING of the world. You are too afraid to go beyond your own town, probably too poor to go elsewhere as well.

But don't worry, just imagine how much international support Argentina can gain now, by prostituting yourselves to Iran.

Hurts, doesn't it Tobias? Your well crafted delusion of Argentina being akin to the Garden of Eden, and holding the moral high ground, is very difficult to maintain when all of its flaws are laid so nakedly to the world.

Never mind, Tobias, go and bury your head in the sand, maybe that way, all the bad things happening in Argentina will 'magically' disappear.
12 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 02:41 pm Report abuse
@10 Nostrolldamus the How many times do I have to tell you Argentina is a land of European immigrints also when you acuse us of being dispicable lets not forget barely 30 years ago you Argentines were throwing each other from military aircraft alive so let me tell you when your dear leader the lady botox queen finds the going getting tuff beware she might start the death flights again.
Come to terms with your own history once you do life become alot better because you really do sound bitter,twisted and slightly angry,oh is there any food shortages with all those price contrls there?????
13 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 03:15 pm Report abuse
I think the 8/1 Peso is worrying a lot of people:

Argentina’s central bank ordered foreign exchange brokers in the Electronic Currency Market to trade no more than $3 million per day, a 70 percent reduction from current volumes, newspaper Cronista Comercial reported, citing agents present in the meeting.
Policy makers are seeking to drive trading into the Open Electronic Market, which can be monitored by central bank officials in real time, the Buenos Aires-based paper said.
The goal is to have greater control over the supply and demand of dollars after the bank’s international reserves dropped about $700 million this year, Cronista said.
14 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
@13 yankeeboy Why are Argentina having these currency issues?? is there anyway we can make them worse LOL J/K
15 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
Because they are not as bloody doollaly Tup as your insane government tells you they are!
16 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
14. When you expand the monetary supply 40% in one year and depreciate your “controlled” peso 20% there is nothing that can fix the problem.

My guess is they're going to have a hard time finding the U$ to pay their fuel bill this year. YPF is not doing too well under gov't control, anyone surprised?
17 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
With all there natural resources this situation is quite sad, obviously all down to bad management,I wonder if Kirchner and Co will ever wake up and smell the coffee or will they just carry on down the path of doom.
18 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 04:15 pm Report abuse
When you have avowed Marxists in charge of the gov't you can't expect things to get better.
Nothing will change until the gov't does
and if history is any indicator
it won't even change then
Argentinians will not take the medicine they need to get better.
This is why they went for Top 10 economies to #62 in 3 generations.
Pretty soon they'll be on par with Paraguay and Bolivia
19 Karl101 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 04:38 pm Report abuse
Please support this page honouring all those who helped liberate the Falklands in 1982 and dedicated to keeping the islands liberated and free of Argentine colonialism.
20 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
Fuck me, where have we heard those sentiments before? and they want us to let them have sovereignty over Brits! no chance!
21 D_45 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
the jewish people in Argentina have the option to return to Israel if they need “security” Hell with them!
22 ElaineB (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 05:10 pm Report abuse
@21 They are Argentines.
23 D_45 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 05:20 pm Report abuse
argentinians are spanish
if jewish screwed in the wrong place...that is their fault!
24 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 05:21 pm Report abuse
No room in hell, it's full with your Nazi ancestors, don't worry though, there's always room for one more.
25 D_45 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 05:29 pm Report abuse
I am spanish
26 Boovis (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
Well, by D_45's logic that's goodbye to Kirchner, Timerman and Puricelli, then, hurray!!
27 Trunce (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:33 pm Report abuse

“argentinians are spanish”

Therefore, an implanted population - colonists. Shouldn't you relinquish Argentina to the indiginous indian population and return to your homeland?
28 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:46 pm Report abuse

WRONG. Argentines are not Spanish. They are not part of Spain, the nation that stole the land from the indians.

And even if you wanted to get “technical” about it, as in genetics, most in Argentina are something other than Spanish. In fact, there is not one group that forms a “majority” at all. Back to school tards.
29 Trunce (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:50 pm Report abuse

“WRONG. Argentines are not Spanish.”

Address your comment to your fellow national - it was his comment.
30 ElaineB (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:52 pm Report abuse
@28 Oh, dear, TTT. You missed the point again. Trunce was quoting D_45 @ 23. He said that Argentines are Spanish, so direct your outrage at your fellow countryman.

He is a complete tosser, so give it to him with both barrels.
31 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
Excuse you both, but I don't argue with fellow nationals in a foreign site. All disagreement ends at the shoreline. Do you Brits fight here? Of course not, if you did (and I know you do), you would show a disunited front and I would embarrass you all in noetic argument much more than I already do.

Besides, engaging in SUBREPTION is far more flagitious. Trunce willingly took an innacurate premise and drew a deliberately innacurate conclusion from an innacurate premise. Classic subreption.
32 ElaineB (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
@31 Bugger off then.
33 ana_ayala (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
All jewish people risiding in Argentina should return to Israel if they need more “security”...that is what D_45 said
34 Trunce (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:25 pm Report abuse

35 gee_again (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
your obsession with Argentina don't make sense, mind your own country
36 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:34 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus the , The only person you embarrass is yourself and your lady botox queen Crissy oh and Hector did an excellent job for you also at the recent FREAK SHOW in London.
37 ElaineB (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:37 pm Report abuse
@35 Susie, it obviously doesn't make sense to you. Your mind is a little on the small side to comprehend.
38 gee_again (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
you have the choice to ignore the comments of other people. why you keep making such stupid reponse!
39 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
@38 gee_again , It is the respomsibility of the good people (mainly English speaking)who grace this forum to tell the truth and educate the brainwashed people of Argentina and there limited supporters,and your right we do have the choice to ignore but living in a PROPER democrecy we choose to exercise our right to free speach when and where appropriate.
40 Trunce (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 07:48 pm Report abuse

Just post as-is forum i.d. - allows coherence addressing comment.
41 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:10 pm Report abuse
Labor demand fell 27% in BA and GBA.
Rut ro
YPF isn't pumping as much as Repsol
Double Rut ro
The vortex in the toilet seems to be speeding up
everyone knows where this is going to end up
42 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
Things can only get better
43 c-28 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:14 pm Report abuse
@ 41
can you resolve the cyber attack in the USA?
44 ana maria (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
yankeeboy don't reside in the USA and don't know what is going in the USA with the Cyber attack
45 Brit Bob (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
While other countries have been staying away, Argentina has increased its trade volumes with Iran by 200% over the past 5 years. I smell a rat...
46 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
Well it can not get it's grubby little hands on the Falkland Islands, that's for damn sure.
47 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
45. Argentina needs oil and Iran needs food
since Argentina has no scruples nor honor it is a good fit.

Might not be a good long term political move though but that will be for the next dictator to worry about
48 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
“the Argentine Justice will not be obstructed.”

Oh you just got to laugh haven't you!!!!!!!
49 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
19 years 362 days left. Providing the UK respects the non existant UN Resolutions. Bet the suspense is killing them, sandwiches made and bags packed already.
50 Trunce (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:32 pm Report abuse
@ 45 Brit Bob

“I smell a rat...”

I think two.. ; )
51 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:32 pm Report abuse
CFK sent out her minions again today with bags of U$ to drive down the price.
How long does she think she can keep this up?
Is there no rule of law in that horrible place?
52 albert_again (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:41 pm Report abuse

Argentina don't need your stupid comments. get a life!
53 ElaineB (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:43 pm Report abuse
Venezuela just devalued their currency by 46.5%. They couldn't control inflation or capital flight.
54 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:45 pm Report abuse
She can change her names, but she can't change the crap!
55 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:49 pm Report abuse
Cristina Kirchner Agrees to Give Back Argentina to Indigenous People!!
56 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
31 Tito The Clown Troll

Still trying to deflect the attention from your own self-loathing are you Tito?

Still trying to disguise your lack of interlect by wrapping it up in big words are you?

Oh dear, Oh dear,

“you would show a disunited front and I would embarrass you all in noetic argument much more than I already do”

Like laughing boy Timerman, the only person you embarrass is yourself ( and possibly your family )

Let me ask you Tito, Is your mum a weightlifter?

She eould have to be, to raise a f**king dumbbell like you.......................
57 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:53 pm Report abuse

I know I am speaking to complete haters and biased hacks but I'll throw this out anyway:

This response encapsulates WHY I refuse to engage intellectually with any of you 98% of the time. Occasionally yes, I will engage in noetic colloquy with a few of you, but for the most part, when you are dealing with people that are so completely out to sea in terms of how the world really is or how things really are, it is pointless to get very cortical.

What do I mean? Here we have a FURRRKING AMERICAN talking about other nations not having scrupules and trading with them out of convenience. Is anyone here capable of exhibiting even a gram of decency to agree with me that is some hypocrisy of the highest order?

Which country has for DECADES propped up brutal dicators over an entire region so that their oil supply remain undisturbed? Which country sold their morals to the devil, arming fanatical religious extremist just to make things hard for their archenemy in Afghanistan in the 80s? What did those extremist turn around and do to them in 2001?

It is exactly this behavior, in this case by an American, but there are other examples by the British, or mainland Europeans, that makes me cringe and why you are losing an entire generation of young argentines from ever being friendly to you people.

Young people of my generation DETEST hypocrisy. You people simply don't seem to get it, and still believe you can fool us with such utterly asinine comments.

Maybe someone with a quater-brain will read this and acknowledge I do have a furking point.
58 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
Ah, but she still has the hotel your so fond of and she is going to keep it!
59 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
@25 D_45 If you are Spanish can you tell me why so many Argentines hate Spain
60 yoli_99 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
@ andy 65
You are wrong!
Argentina is anti-british!
61 reality check (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:06 pm Report abuse
Be fair mate, they are not biased! they hate everyone.
Who cares what your brain washed generation thinks, as long as you keep it your side of the ocean and leave the islands in peace.
62 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:06 pm Report abuse

Argentina is anti-Spanish, and anti-British, anti-Italian, anti-French, and anti-German. Satisfied?
63 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
58 Tito The Clown Troll

You might, just might have a point..................But you are still full of s**t!!

60 andy65

It's SussieUS again, creating user names like they are going out of fashion...

But, as pointed out by friend reality check at 54........

“She can change her names, but she can't change the crap!”

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha, ha!!
64 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:12 pm Report abuse
and Pro-Iran, Pro-Venezuela, Pro-Ecuador, Pro-Bolivia, Pro-Syria, Pro-North Korea.
You are in good company Toby. Not one of them has a pot to piss in and all are international laughing stock like Argentina.
65 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:13 pm Report abuse

Obviously you care you moron, loitering in a topic about Argentina and IRAN. Nowhere do I see the Falkland Islands here. Thus your irrelevancy in this topic as a Brit is overwhelming.
66 yoli_99 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
same like the UK Team
and Troy thin tets Trumpet nothing he can'!
67 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:19 pm Report abuse
@66 Nostrolldamus Now my friend when I wiped the floor with you earlier in the week you acused me of calling names and cried like a girl.
May I remind you to show some respect to my distinguished forum users like
reality check, after all he IS NOT Argentine which makes him far superior and informed than you.
May god bless you.
68 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
Toby, What do you think it means when BCRA spends U$100MM to support the peso and can only get it down 1.7%?
Rut ro
I hope you bought sugar like I have been telling you for the last year.

Do you think CFK will confiscate the SOY and CORN if the farmers don't want to sell right now?
69 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:26 pm Report abuse

Sorry, no one outside your brainwashed country shares that yanki view of the world.
70 yoli_99 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:26 pm Report abuse
Argentine or not, @ 66 is the best man!
71 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
@70 Nostrolldamus, I get the feeling your a lonely angry person there is never any joy in what you write,always nasty and angry you should come to Europe sometime we have groups here that can help you-all free ofcourse.
72 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
Whenever I think of Susana Brown Sussie et al this is what comes to mind:

Sorry I don't usually do that but I can't get it out of my mind!
73 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
@73 yankeeboy My what a pretty girl,reminds of a young Crissy Kirchner before all the facial treatments.
74 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:35 pm Report abuse

Don't think so. Her teeth are 100% British isles / anglo-saxon.
75 yoli_99 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:39 pm Report abuse
@ 73
hello yankeeboy still residing in the Falk-Slum-Lands with Isolde?
76 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:41 pm Report abuse
@75 Nostrolldamus You know I have my own business well I employ a young cleaning lady, comes cheap she told me she was Spanish but now I find she is Argentine and was to ashamed to say,how sad
77 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:43 pm Report abuse
Toby, There are a lot of poorly maintained teeth in Argentina if I were you I wouldn't be throwing the first stone.
Even the “rich” people had some pretty bad problems.
78 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:46 pm Report abuse

You can claim whatever you want, the stereotype of English people (not just from England), and buck teeth and the like is well known. Just like Italians or Jews and aquiline noses, the Germans and their mandibules, the French and their armpits, etc, etc.
79 yoli_99 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 10:50 pm Report abuse
@77 andy who?
You should see the british men in the USA serving tables for $2.13 p/h plus tips...their british accent is repulsive!
80 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 11:00 pm Report abuse

Shouldn't you be in a survival bunker somewhere??
81 yankeeboy (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
So you are talking stereotypes and I am talking first hand experience. I wonder which you thin is more accurate.
BTW I have been to London a bunch of times and don't remember seeing anyone with super bad teeth.
I definitely have seen worse in BA and PDE.
Dirty teeth on top of smoke and coffee does not make it pleasant to talk to someone.
82 andy65 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 11:50 pm Report abuse
@80 Nostrolldamus You talk about teeth what about your hairy women,I could not believe it when I stepped of the cruiseliner the Argentine women were so hairy,why don't they shave.

79 yoli_99 Still think it's sad my cleaner can not say her real nationality because she is ashamed of Crissy Kirchner and belive me no British would serve tables for $2 per hour thats why we have an influx of East Europeans here in the UK,are you sure they weren't well educated Mexicans serving tables????
83 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 11:59 pm Report abuse

I don't smoke nor drink coffee nor chew gum nor drink a ton of carbonated drinks. Too bad for your first hand experience.

My first hand experience tells me all I said is true, you are a moron for thinking I've not seen TONS of brits, germans, french, italians, spaniards, etc in Mendoza. And yanks too... you can spot them from 10 blocks away, badly dressed and wide load. lol
84 andy65 (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:14 am Report abuse
And the smell of most Argentines is gutrenching I know times are hard there and with hyper inflation I can well immagine soap being out of most peoples grasp but it's no excuse walking around smelling like that even Crissy Kirchner looks dirty in some photos
85 silvio_99 (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 01:54 am Report abuse
the argentine people are well educated and likes be well groomed all the times! Argentinians don't care what you the brits said!
86 reality check (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 07:50 am Report abuse
Whist on the subject of teeth, at least we do not lie through them, unlike some inept Argentine diplomat I can think of!
87 Leiard (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 08:34 am Report abuse
@83 Nostrolldamus the ???

You are one of the most pathetic and immature posters here.

You are like a young child in the school playground that is having a tantrum because it cannot get its own way.

You tell us all the time that you have such great wisdom and an indisputable grasp of facts.

You use childish insults against posters you do not agree with.

You make stupid generalisations just to suit yourself.

Your great experience - “My first hand experience tells me all I said is true, you are a moron for thinking I've not seen TONS of brits, germans, french, italians, spaniards, etc in Mendoza.”

You say - 98% of the posters on these threads to not warrant a reply from your good self, what egotistic crap!

You say - I will not discuss anything to do with Argentina with any of you, more egotistic crap!

But the truth is, you make all these comments because you have no longer have any debating skills of any kind. !!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, Why are we not allowed to debate any issue that is not to do with the Falkland Islands ?
88 yankeeboy (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
Toby, Where would you come in contact with TONS of foreigners? I lived in BA for many years, spent most of my time in bars and clubs, and I never ran into TONS of foreigners.
I remember hanging out with College kids from Australia, UK and the USA and lots of South Americans but I can't recall any other nationalities in great number. Even the ones I met the groups were no larger than 4-5 and they were college kids so not really a good representation of a whole country.
Also you talk of ALL THE USA retirees in Mendoza, are there more than 100 families? I highly doubt it.
You are nothing more than a poor under-educated kid from a poor backwards province in a poor backward country in a poor backward continent. You'll never know anywhere else and will only get your opinions through a computer screen. It is sad.
89 ElaineB (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:28 pm Report abuse
It is true that a number of wealthy people from the USA have bought up prime wineries in Mendoza. Maybe that is what TTT is referring to. Land is cheaper there than the Napa Valley.

The times I have been in Mendoza there were hardly any tourists about - though I mostly travel out of season if I can arrange it. This time I shall be there at a busier time so maybe I shall encounter TONS of tourists. I doubt it though.
90 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:39 pm Report abuse

“spent most of my time in bars and clubs”

How am I not surprised.

Mendoza is the best province from the best country in the Americas. Yes USA maybe weathier, Brazil more vibrant, Chile more reliable, Canada safer... but Argentina is in top 3-5 in wealth, safety, reliability of travel. It may not be #1 in all, but in the USA you have no culture, in Chile it is boring as a doorknob, in Brazil completely unsafe... Argentina has a combination of all of the good things. Sucks for your narrative.

Difference with me is I don't have to lie about being magnificently wealthy to feel either important, entitled, or as a tactic to blow off debate. You and the others here use it as you lone shield to say “we have money we've seen things you haven't”... but the truth is you are all LIARS. You are not rich, you have not travelled, and you pretend you do on a remote website online.

91 yankeeboy (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:51 pm Report abuse
89. Elaine, I have heard there are an awful lot of wineries for sale right now in Mendoza and they're all having problems finding buyers. RG wine sales to the USA are dropping like a rock since we are taxing them higher now.

Toby, I don't lie. For the time I was living in BA I was basically an investor I didn't really work so I spent a lot of time at restaurants, bars and clubs. I particularly liked the Jockey Club both downtown and San Isidro during the day but would go out at night to places a little more lively. I know people in your country you only read about.

BTW Mendoza is not anywhere near the top 5 of wealth or safety and certainly not reliability of travel if that is even something that is measured. I would point you to the 100s of cars still stranded trying to get to Chile or into Argentina RIGHT NOW. Gads you are stupid.
92 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
“I don't lie”.

I just fucked Mila Kunis and Luisana Lopilato.
93 yankeeboy (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
I didn't say you didn't lie did I?
Nice language
but what can you expect from the lower classses
94 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
It's called a contrastive example.

I redacted something so shocking both in language and content to create an effect.

It succeeded from your response.

That's how YOU read to me whenever I desultorily scan through your aggrandizing replies anent ANYTHING remotely associated with Argentina.
95 yankeeboy (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
You sound ridiculous when you post like that.
It just shows your insecurity.
96 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 05:18 pm Report abuse
You make it sound like there is anyone here for me worth impressing.

How are you enjoying your climate change?? I think your country's gonna do very very badly next 30-50 years.
97 slattzzz (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:31 pm Report abuse
Nostril anus will change the subject at the drop of a hat when losing an arguement, we've gone from Iran to teeth and hairy women. What a dick. And then we have Sussie with her twenty odd different names who talks and answers her own posts whilst sitting in the US sponging off the state you couldn't make this shit up, no wonder people laugh at you, I hope your not getting paid to much for this as you will be in debt, even Tinman isn't as embarrassing as you idiots, only just though
98 golfcronie (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 08:50 pm Report abuse
27 days until the FALKLANDS REFERENDUM
99 green_hat (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
islands or no islands
Argentina is anti-british!
100 slattzzz (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:07 pm Report abuse
@99 Oh sussie i've said it on another link you are as boring as fook now just trot off and collect your dole check and sponge some more money off our cousins in the US
101 golfcronie (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
You speak for the whole of Argentina do you? Like Timermen says the whole world agrees with Argentina ref THE FALKLAND ISLANDS ( Both of you are a joke)
SELF DETERMINATION ( Why are you all afraid of it? )
102 slattzzz (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
@101 the only thing sussie is scared of is coming down off that high in enough time to collect her next dole cheque off the US citizens she keeps slagging off
103 yankeeboy (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:28 pm Report abuse
Toby, Let me give you an analogy to your crazy wordy posts'
it is like going out wearing a hat with a feather, a velvet coat and a cravat.

All technically fine but one just doesn't do it without looking silly.
104 slattzzz (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
@103 yankeeboy do you remember Sussie spouting off when TMBOA was doing her bit in American universities claiming to live not far from you, I do it now claims it doesn't live in the US
105 yankeeboy (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
From what I remember she claimed to live in something that looked like public housing in Tempe Az,
You can tell by her mental capacity and tenuous grasp of the English language she can't live anywhere decent in the USA. I doubt very much she has ever left Villa 31 near Retiro.
106 slattzzz (#) Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
@105 I doubt it too live long and prosper my friend
107 d1eg0 (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
In Argentina there is a lot of people who think this guy (Timerman) is an idiot. Only the “kirchnerists” say good things about him.
But, even when I know he's an idiot, it always amazes me!
He's so ignorant, that he could be a character in a comedy film. But it would be a horror film, since I live here in Argentina.
CFK's pseudo-fascist government is clearly approaching nazi ideology. That's bad, but at least she's acting what she thinks...
I'm scared.
108 bob_99 (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:46 pm Report abuse
yankeeboy how about kelper about engineer abroad argie the poet we own your fragata yensere-ly skare isolde captain poppy conqueror
the UK owns argentina and on and on and on....funny Merco-british crap-Press is he best place to dump plenty of crap!
109 agent999 (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:59 pm Report abuse
@good bye sussie
110 alex_68 (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
good morning agent999999999999999999999999999999
111 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:11 pm Report abuse
#107 d1ego....the good people of Argentina need to unite and make a very strong approach by sending a message to the peronist in the mid term elections. I know there id enough people there to remove a few kirchner bimbo's. Good luck.
112 slatz (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
captain poppy
did you pay the $800 pesos restaurant meal?
why you keep complaining?
113 ann_25 (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:57 pm Report abuse
all jewish people residing in Argentina have the choice to return to Israel if they need more security!
114 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:22 am Report abuse
I guess this is the modern way for rgentina to get rid of the people they do not want. They certainly cannot round them up and kill them like the indigenous people of the past.
115 jon and johnie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:43 am Report abuse
we all agree!
all jewish people should return to Israel including Simon68Zhivago!
116 Cristina Lopez (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:26 am Report abuse
the jewish people stinks!
117 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:03 am Report abuse
Let's bring in the Persians and North Koreans....rgentina's new trade buddies.
118 jorge_68 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
the USA is worry about the North Korea video found in the internet.
muslims hate JEWISH people
the “jews” can return to Israel if they need more “security”

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