Monday, February 11th 2013 - 04:47 UTC

“Pseudo referendum” is provocative and offensive says Malvinas Forum, Uruguay

The Malvinas Forum, Uruguay chapter released a declaration strongly criticizing lawmakers and institutions that have announced they are planning to travel to the Falklands’ for the March10/11 referendum.

Ambassador Dante Dovena: the British want to legitimize the last colonial settlement

The Forum met last Friday to celebrate its first anniversary in Maldonado and considered “provocative and offensive” the fact that Uruguayan institutions and lawmakers have been convened to attend the “pseudo-referendum” in the Malvinas Islands as witnesses or observers since that “ignores what constitutes a firm regional position regarding the Malvinas question and runs over what has been the historic position of Uruguay and the essence of the Uruguayan people”.

“It is clear that this invitation from the British authorities is only geared to legitimize the last of the colonial settlements in our South American territory”, adds the document.

During the event Argentine Ambassador Dante Dovena announced that he would be asking the government of President Cristina Fernandez to honour with the medal of “The Liberator San Martin Order” the Mayor of Colonia, Walter Zimmer and Senator Luis Rosadilla.

The Malvinas Forum, chapter Uruguay among its relevant members includes Foreign minister Luis Almagro and Defence minister Eleuterio Fernandez Huidobro.

Ambassador Dovena described the Falklands’ referendum as “theatrical” and said it was like “asking if they like water. Nobody likes water as such but we all need it, thus it is a question which needs not even consideration”.

“Asking the Islanders if they wish to remain British is obvious they will say yes. That is not the question, the question is that they are illegal settlers on Argentine soil”, said Ambassador Dovena.

He added that Argentina does not want to infringe in the “lives of the British people in Malvinas; we want to defend their interests because they are in Argentine territory, but this does not mean we must consent their wish to remain British. This is not in their hands because peoples’ self determination refers to indigenous populations and this is an implanted population following an illegal occupation and forcible usurpation, which besides the UN does not recognize”.

 

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1 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:06 am Report abuse
Pseudo 'Malvinas' Forum is“ provocative and offensive”, and so say all of us!
2 Anglotino (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:53 am Report abuse
Wow. Something called the Malvinas Forum is against the referendum....

Yep! You read it here first! Who would have thought?

God can we expect these sort of laughs right up to the referendum? This is hardly news!
3 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:58 am Report abuse
@02 Anglotino

Even TTT/ Arifu, “Friend of the Falklands” has stepped up his 'Malvinas' rhetoric against us!!!
4 Xect (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:10 am Report abuse
Who cares what some hobbyist, insignificant forum says?

Not to mention the referendum is on the Falkland's not some mythical set of islands called the Mavlinas.....
5 agent999 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:11 am Report abuse
why do they always forget French Guiana ?
6 Gordo1 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:29 am Report abuse
They would say that, wouldn't they? I wonder what prize they were offered in order to make this declaration?
7 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:43 am Report abuse
I'm now just waiting with baited breath to find out what the Malvinas Forum, USA Chapter has to say?

I'm guessing it's going to be a declaration of the copypasta kind.

“He added that Argentina does not want to infringe in the “lives of the British people in Malvinas;” - of course you do, that's precisely what you're doing now
you fat liar.

“we want to defend their interests because they are in Argentine territory, but this does not mean we must consent their wish to remain British.” - holding people against their will, forcing them to associate with a nation to which they have no links, and ultimately wants them ethnically cleansed (shown on many an advert) goes against everything the UN stands for, you fat liar.

Do these people know that telling lies is a sin or do they just sit there with dulce de leche dripping off their fat cheeks and spout the usual territorial nationalism nonsense based upon fake history?

I'm guessing he knows it's a sin and stays awake at night knowing it, waiting for judgement.
8 Idlehands (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:21 am Report abuse
There seems to have been a surge in Argentine trolling in the last week. Is it one with multiple identities getting more and more frustrated or has the Argentine government pushed its footsoldiers into taking to the web?

I'd say let them carry on as the quality of their posting makes them sound like demented teenagers.
9 War Monkey (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:49 am Report abuse
Ahhhh. What a shame, never mind but on a more grown up level my heart bleeds purple p!ss. Suck it up Malvinistas there's so much more to come. So much more for you to bitch and blither about. 'Malvinas' is simply the Spanish (not Argentine take note) name for the islands that they recognised as British territory before they recognised Argentina.

The Falkland Islands are British, the Falkland Islanders are British, by choice and by free association and self determination. They are no more 'implanted' than Argentinians are and never wiped out an already established, indigenous population as the Argentinians did.

They are British and they will remain so until they decide otherwise or until Argentina can find somebody to take the islands for them because they are not capable of doing it for themselves.

One day the Falkland Islands will be an independent territory, a country in and of itself. It might be centuries away but it will happen and thanks to their aggressive, racist, expansionist, bullying, colonial wannabe neighbour, I expect that they will be armed to the teeth.

SELF DETERMINATION FOR ALL PEOPLE!
10 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:00 am Report abuse
Dante Dovena is asking CFK to give the Medal “ The Liberator San Martin Order”
to The Mayoy of Colonia and a Senator because they agreed with Dante.
Please,Please can I have one, I have been a good boy and supported you too.
Tried Googling Argentine medals to see how many medals they issue and my computer blew up.
11 Rufus (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:16 am Report abuse
I can't get over the sheer politic skill of the “Malvinas Forum” in Uruguay, where the best picture is the ARGENTINE AMBASSADOR in front of an ARGENTINE FLAG.

I have studied subtle and cunning plots and propaganda. This isn't. I've seen bull rhinos with more subtlty and amoeba with more cunning. Hell, you could't produce a much more obviously pro-Argentina propaganda piece if you tried.
12 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:54 am Report abuse
@11 I suspect they don't want to include the argentinians-pretending-to-be-uruguayans like the folks they wheeled out at the Malvinas Forum, UK. Some grinning stooges staring back at them and agreeing with whatever they're told, taking one for the Vaterland.

What I personally find funny, is that in managing the long tail that are the few UN recognised dependent territories, not including Dokdo or Patagonia, they have tried to run a referendum in Tokelau twice.... ending in epic FAIL.

If this doesn't tell people the C24 is a bag-o-shite then I don't know what will.
13 reality check (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
I have been wondering where I have seen this Ambassadors face before, then it came to me, he looks like a Wookie.
14 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
@13 or the father in 1980s film Teen Wolf (with Mike J. Fox)...

... to be honest he doesn't look unlike a fat bloke that you wouldn't talk to in the pub.
15 jorge_68 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:28 pm Report abuse
@13 @14 SAME UK WIMP
How about FAT ----BEN LYSTER-BINNS -----UK AMBASSADOR TO URUGUAY,,,,,,,///////////
TOO MUCH FISH AND CHIPS
16 Conqueror (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
Many people, even those with considerable education, will find it difficult to understand the phrase “Malvinas Forum, Uruguay chapter”. The problem is the use of unintelligible words. “Malvinas”, for instance, has no valid translation. Being imaginery, “Malvinas” may “exist” in the vicinity of Oz and Neverland. Anyone who manages to find “Malvinas”, probably as they fall asleep, should keep watch for Dorothy, Wendy, Tinker Bell, the Cowardly Lion and the Tinman. A “chapter”, of course, is part of a book. Often a novel. Or, make believe. Realistically, “Malvinas Forum, Uruguay chapter” translates, freely, as “brain-dead, brainwashed, propaganda, crooked, treacherous wankers”.
17 Idlehands (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
Chapter used in this context makes me think of the Hell's Angels.
18 Conqueror (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
“Malvinas Forum, Uruguay chapter” is provocative and offensive. There are NO “Malvinas”. “Forum” implies an open debate. “Uruguay” is an argie undeclared province. And there are more “chapters”. The ones where “peaceful” argieland takes military action. The ones where the UK turns argieland into glass and shadows.
19 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:08 pm Report abuse
@15
What medal have you promised for posting such drivel on here?
At least have something intelligent to say. See my @10
20 Brit Bob (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
The Uruguay Malvinas Forum is about as threatening as the RSPB is to cats!
21 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
Now if he was talking abt Chile or brazil, or even Iran, north Korea
Or even Iceland, threatening or abusing Argentina,
He might have a valid point,

But if he genuinely calls a referendum held by freely elected people as provocative and offensive,

What would he and CFK and Argentina call,
Threatening, abusive , intimidation , blockading , and insulting a friendly tiny unarmed defenceless islands , of the Falklands,

A tea party perhaps,
The guy is as insulting as the faeces from his back side is,
Even if he does use pasteurised images of CFK.
Insulting little maggot.

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22 AB_90 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:14 pm
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23 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:21 pm Report abuse
22 AB_90

Congratulations,

You are the only argie on here tonight, to have passed the coveted argentine intelligence test,

Horary,
Keep this up, and you will one day become an argie turnip .lolololol

you must be very proud.
24 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
@23
SHE has so many aliases, she does'nt know who she is .
PELUTUDA
25 Orbit (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
@22 - Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
26 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:42 pm Report abuse
ha ha poor suzy or whoever.
27 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
He's still fat.
28 GeoffWard2 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
I hear that the Falklands Forum, Samoan Chapter are revving up their argument in anticipation of TFI's Referendum.

“... Then like a sinner
before the gates of Heaven
I'll come crawlin' on back to you”

Yo, it's Chapter time, folks!
29 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:19 pm Report abuse
he looks very frightend in the picture,

do you think some one was holding a gun aimed at him.
30 ChrisR (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
Dante Dovena is just a fat drunken argie with pretensions that his view counts for anything in the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas you twats). From what I have seen over the last 18 months on MP his views count for nothing in AR.

But what really gets my ire is the antics of the two so called Uruguayo Ministers.

Dumb-fuck Almagro is nothing other than an argie sock puppet from when he was Ambassador to the shithole that is AR today.

WTF Defence minister Eleuterio Fernandez Huidobro is doing there is beyond me because he clearly owes his allegiance to Dean Man Not Walking. By allowing a contingent of Venezuelan troops to come to Uruguay and get a ‘Declaration of allegiance’ to Chavez made WITHOUT DIRE RETRIBUTION or indeed any censure on those involved, especially the ‘officers’ shows he is clearly unsuited to this position.

I suppose this is what you get from uneducated lefties and communists. Roll on 2014!
31 green_68 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
@23
Last night TROy tender testicles TEMPEST did not continue with me and TTT,,,,//// he just gave up!
32 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
is that a telly tubby on the flag behind him,
or a stain.

still
he looks all red and frustrated.
poor man.
33 redpoll (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:26 pm Report abuse
@30 Chris Venezuelan troops on Uruguayan soil? Can you give me a reference on that? As far as I know that hasnt been approved by parliament
34 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:52 pm Report abuse
Someone should wash that hand-toil in the background, it looks like someone wiped their parts on it after coitus.
35 The Cestrian (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:55 pm Report abuse
@33

See post 38 - here: en.mercopress.com/2012/07/14/venezuela-argentina-sign-military-cooperation-in-framework-of-unasur-defence-council
36 liza (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
MORE OFFENSIVE WORDS FROM THE UK TEAM
FOR WHAT?
TO KEEP MERCO-BRITISH CRAP-PRESS: F U L L
37 Captain P0ppy (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:12 am
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38 Terence Hill (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 01:35 am Report abuse
37 Captain P0ppy

This sorry assed Argentinean was trying to pass himself off as American on another commentary page, typical behavior from the land of liars.

“i'm a barefooted yankee!!!!”

As Canadian that worked in an industry over forty years with Americans I have never heard one of them use that expression. So while I don't know what nationality you are, I for certain know you are not an American period
39 Frank (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 03:44 am Report abuse
what is it about RGs and stealing other peoples stuff? www.ionglobaltrends.com/2013/02/peru-pluspetrol-secret-plans-for-gas.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FzqKG+%28i+On+Global+Trends%29
40 jonas_Bs.As. (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 04:17 am
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41 ynsere (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 05:37 am Report abuse
Of course the Malvinas Forum is pro-Argentine. Who do you think organises and funds them? Ambassador Dante Dovena is a deadbeat second-tier Peronist politician. I suppose he was given the position as punishment for not sharing properly with CFK, he can't steal half as much from Montevideo.
42 Shed-time (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:31 am Report abuse
“never trust a fat man for they have not self-control nor self-efficacy”, Peter Muldoon (2019)
43 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 09:36 am Report abuse
Liza
If you do not like the MERCOPRESS site., why bother posting your drivel on here,we do not hate Argentinians per se but we do not like the attitude that your Government has taken over the REFERENDUM for the FALKLAND ISLANDERS.
Democracy in Argentina ( your having a laugh ) but you voted the numpties in.
44 Shed-time (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:03 pm Report abuse
The beard covers the double chins, apparently.
45 Idlehands (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
38 Terence Hill

Are you aware that there is the real Captain Poppy and a fake impersonator using Captain P0ppy (with a zero rather than letter 'o') He's trying to get it sorted out but it's been a couple of days now.

There's definitly been an upsurge in trolling in the last week. Quite frankly it's embarrassing it's so infantile.
46 ChrisR (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 03:24 pm Report abuse
@33 redpoll

en.mercopress.com/2012/07/06/mujica-proposes-to-blend-mercosur-and-unasur-into-an-only-more-flexible-group

“Both Almagro and the Defence minister Fernandez Huidobro have been summoned to Congress to explain what really happened in Mendoza at the summit and to explain the presence during a week in Uruguay of 250 Venezuelan forces, without approval from the Legislative, and which on several occasions in meetings with their peers in military barracks swore allegiance to the Bolivarian Socialist regime of President Hugo Chavez.”

See @9 ChrisR post.

I think you must have missed it as you did not post.

I still think the military officers present were let off the hook.
47 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
@37
Ugly sod aren't you?
48 slattzzz (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 10:28 pm Report abuse
@45 Yeah I've reported Susie and all her other names she's been using mine as well unfortunately she's to THICK to disguise her comments

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