Tuesday, February 12th 2013 - 20:17 UTC

Argentine Jewish community calls on Congress to reject understanding with Iran

Argentine Jewish leaders from Community Centres AMIA and DAIA, Guillermo Borger and Julio Schlosser rejected on Tuesday once more the agreement signed by the Argentine and Iranian governments last week to investigate the 1994 AMIA centre bombing which killed 85 people and left hundreds injured.

Iran Defence Minister at the centre of the controversy: “questioning of an Iranian official is totally false”

Timerman pledged to Jewish organizations that Vahidi would be questioned in Teheran by an Argentine judge

In a communiqué sent to reporters the two leaders also urged the Argentine congress to vote against the agreement which will be debated on Wednesday by the Senate asking them to “continue with the Argentine democratic tradition, supporting its values and rejecting the agreement”.

“The Argentine Jewish Community reiterates the agreement with Iran is a major set-back in the pursuit of Justice for the terrorist attacks perpetrated in our country,” AMIA and DAIA stressed

The release was in reaction to a statement from Iran denying that Defence Minister Ahmad Vahidi would be questioned in the AMIA case after Argentine Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman pledged to the local Jewish community Vahidi would be interrogated in the AMIA terrorist attack investigation (which took place 19 years ago in 2004), under the agreement signed last week between Argentina and Iran.

The accord in fact is close to failure considering that opposition politicians and Jewish Community Centre AMIA and DAIA leaders have already reacted to it and after the battle of words between President Cristina Fernández and AMIA president Guillermo Borger in Twitter last weekend.

Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman announced on January 30 that Vahidi who is a defendant in the case, would be questioned in Teheran by an Argentine judge, being a key part of the bilateral accord between the countries.

“The questioning of an Iranian official is totally false. It seems as those who are uncomfortable with this agreement taking place allow this kind of information to filter through,” the spokesperson for the Iranian Foreign Ministry, Ramin Mehmanparast said on Tuesday.

“Both the Iranian and Argentine officials agreed to cooperate in order to make this case more transparent, the agreement is in motion and it will help to resolve any problems tied to it,” he added.

“I was sure that he would be present when the judge questioned him, and he will be,” Timerman assured, three days after the agreement was signed with his counterpart Ali Salehi for an independent commission to look into the attack. Since 2012 the two sides have been holding discussions to define a judicial mechanism compatible with both judicial procedures.

In 2006 Argentine Justice demanded the extradition of eight Iranian top officials including the current Defence minister Ahmad Vahidi, former president Alí Rafsanjani (1989-1997) and former foreign secretary Alí Akbar Velayati, with international warrants supported by Interpol.

Argentine Justice also suspects that Iran could be involved in car-bomb attack on the Israel embassy in Buenos Aires killing 29 and injuring over 200 people. Teheran always denied any involvement but Israel and western intelligence think contrary.

The Jewish community in Argentina, the most important in Latinamerica has rejected the understanding between Iran and Argentina, while Israel said it was disappointed and protested as ‘unacceptable’ the Argentine attitude towards the Teheran regime while Washington expressed ‘scepticism’ over possible results.

The dispute between the Jewish community and opposition lawmakers with President Cristina Fernandez and minister Hector Timerman seems to hinge on two “legal terms” under the Argentina criminal code: ‘questioning or interrogation’ or an ‘inquiry’ by the agreed commission without the presence of the judge or prosecutor.

A former prosecutor from the International Criminal Court, Luis Moreno Ocampo and an advisor of the Jewish community said ‘if the Iranian defence minister is involved” in the AMIA attack, “it’s going to be difficult for Teheran to have an impartial attitude in the search for the truth”.

“The success or failure of that effort (by the commission) will depend on the capability and integrity of” its “members,” he argued, adding that “presenting the names of candidates to make up the commission” is a “key issue” that would greatly help the discussion.”

He concluded by suggesting the bill be amended to establish an “interrogation” rather than an “inquiry” by the commission “without the presence of the judge or prosecutor”.

However Julian Dominguez, president of the Lower House and belonging to the Kirchner block downplayed the statements from Teheran and promised that Argentina will exhaust all resources to find out the truth about the 1994 terrorist attack.

“Whatever the others do, is up to them. What the Argentine state must do is defend its people and fight for truth and solving the case” said Dominguez.

However Argentine political analysts insist they still can’t fully understand President Cristina Fernandez determination to go ahead with the Iran understanding despite all the flaws and increasing criticisms.
 

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1 Frank (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
Oh well thats that then...... english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/12/265933.html?
Titman and the mad cow made to look stupid yet again.....
2 briton (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
Héctor Timerman announced on January 30 that Vahidi, would be questioned in Teheran by an Argentine judge,

Héctor Timerman
Says the Falklands will be argentine in 20 years,

It seems this nincompoop says and promises lots of things,

But like the rest of CFK government promises,
It all amounts to nothing,
Precisely nothing.

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3 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
@2
don't think I would trust either one of them. Just say that the Iranian admits the bombing, what then, extradition, don't think that is going to happen.
4 briton (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
CFK like to call them friends,

But with friends like Iran, who needs enemy’s lol.

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5 slattzzz (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
However Argentine political analysts insist they still can’t fully understand President Cristina Fernandez determination to go ahead with the Iran understanding despite all the flaws and increasing criticisms.
Cos she thick as pig shit
6 ChrisR (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
That ANY serious government is even negotiating with these war mongers says much about what is so bereft in AR today: a sense of what is right for the Argentine people and the determination to achieve it.

Instead we have the idiot Timerman trying to dance on the pointed end of a darning needle whilst simultaneously advancing TMBOA ‘desires’.

What a joke.
7 briton (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
Surprised they aint visited north korea yet.

he might even make a friend for CFKs son. lol
8 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 09:18 pm Report abuse
.......and who would trust “Argentine Justice”??

“What the Argentine state must do is defend its people and fight for truth and solving the case”

Oh I can see now, this Argentine investigation. “Laughing Boy” Timerman will go to Teheran and keep asking people “It was you wot done it!!” until someone is stupid enough to say “Yes!!”
9 slattzzz (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
Whoops another fook up, Tinman must be booked on that airborne taxi by now.
10 Shed-time (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
Timmerman is Iran's b.f.f. (best friend forever). I bet that makes him feel safe at his homes in Tel Aviv and NYC.
11 slattzzz (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 10:58 pm Report abuse
Watch your backs Rg's Isreal don't suffer fools gladly..........and by the way you are the biggest fools on the planet right now
12 HB_BB (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 11:00 pm
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13 slattzzz (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 11:03 pm Report abuse
@12 really sussie of course you'd know living and sponging off the US
14 HH_Bb (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 11:37 pm
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15 golfcronie (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 12:40 am Report abuse
@12, @14
Have you an education system in Argentina because you are not a prime example?
16 Elenaeleainb (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 03:06 am
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17 reality check (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 07:27 am Report abuse
Anti Semitic and inciting racial intolerance, true to form, yet another reason to have f...ck all to do with them.
18 Britworker (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 07:52 am Report abuse
Argentina desperately trying to make an alliance with the worlds worst international dirt bags, I wonder who will be next on their charm offensive, North Korea, Syria? They think no-one knows what they are up to, you actually start to feel sorry for the Argentine people in the end, they have no hope with the crowd they currently have in power.
19 reality check (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 08:19 am Report abuse
Did you see the link Anglotino put on here about the fake Iranian stealth fighter, classic Iranian comedy.
The Argentines are going to be upset though, when the crates arrive marked Airfix and they realise how much model cement they are going to needs to assemble them.
Really surprises me, their biggest supporter, militarily, in 1982 and they shit on them to suck up to the Iranians.
There can only be one reason for it, they are hoping to cream off some of the $US they are going to handle helping Iran avoid the sanctions on them.
Only logical explanation.
20 travellingscotsman (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 08:26 am Report abuse
“all jews out of Argentina, all falkland islanders out of the falklands, death to all Argentine indigenous people.” And we are supposed to negotiate with people like this? These RG's are totally ignorant of their own history - the military dictatorships that killed, tortured, and raped innnocent people the second world war that fried 6 million jews for just being jews. Comments like these just show how backward and pathetic the RG's are. I almost feel sorry for them, I suppose it's no surprise considering that in 2008 the development back slated Argentine education, and I quote
“The perception is that the quality of education in Argentina has deteriorated as a result of low investment and lack of appropriate policies. Education seems not to be providing equal opportunities any more, deepening the pattern of increasing inequality observed in the last decades, in a globalized world where human capital is the key to economic development and quality of life. As a consequence, the country is falling behind the world and the region.” Oh dear it looks like Argentina is sinking and sinking fast - will the last person to leave Argentina please switch off the lights! Please read report below- im not making this up!
www.iadb.org/res/laresnetwork/files/pr294finaldraft.pdf
21 reality check (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 10:03 am Report abuse
Editor
Thanks for removing the anti semetic comments. They are not welcome on these pages.
22 Mendoza Canadian (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 10:32 am Report abuse
Democratic, free Argentina...friends of Venecuba and Iran. TV C5N fired one of its journalists because he criticized Hugo Chavez. They are aligned with the government.
23 Optimus_Princeps (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 11:28 am Report abuse
There's a change in energy that's occurred recently. We are tired of the K's and their disregard for our well being. Working class Argentinians are typically shy and docile in comparison to those that are belligerent and like to take advantage of honest people.

I figured out, that K's don't hold up very well when you stand up to them. They expect you to keep your mouth shut and just take it. We are the only ones producing anything. Why do we tolerate people that contribute nothing and generate liabilities?
24 golfcronie (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
@20
don't tell me they have power for the lights, I thought power outages were a daily occurance.
25 Conqueror (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 01:22 pm Report abuse
@20 A very interesting paper. Thank you. Some things that jumped out for me were: Apparently, argieland gained independence in 1816. So why were they celebrating their “bicentennial” two years ago? Doesn't 1816 plus 200 equal 2016? Then, it seems to be admitted that argie “education” mirrors the argie “economy”. So, brief periods of adequacy followed by years of crap. But always including the political brainwashing. Who remembers “axel_arg”, the so-called “teacher”? Just goes to show, doesn't it? In Britain and similar countries, “teacher” is a respected profession. It is actually stated that, in argieland, “teacher” is something one does if one can't get a proper job! A better perception of the standard of education is that a school “week” is, generally, 20 hours. Whereas, in Britain, the standard school week is either 30 or 35 hours. It's not hard to see why the majority of argies are poorly educated.
@23 Why? Read the article that travellingscotsman has provided a link for. Then think. Check out the classic methods for keeping a population controlled. Poor education. Make sure that their first concern is the basics of life. Food, heat, light. Add in some government propaganda. And some corruption. Identify an “issue” and a “bogeyman”. Any of this sound familiar?
26 Optimus_Princeps (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
@25 The people that get manipulated easily are the ones that are lazy and are willing to trade their beliefs for a few government scraps, which is indirectly provided by the sweat of the working class.

My wife being a teacher, has a few low income students, whose parents sell fruit for 12 hours a day to send them to a private school. There are no excuses. There is a kid in the square paying his way by shining shoes, and he's tired of it as we are.

Elaborating on what I said in my last comment, a fat cretin was blasting his Cumbia music, and hurling insults at my wife because she told him to turn it down. I said a few words of my own, then he responded by trying to threaten me physically with his size. Though I knew just because he outweighed me, that beneath the blubber was atrophied tissue, and weak bones because of the fatty diet and lack of exercise. Prepared, I didn't flinch, and he didn't come any closer. Now, our neighborhood is a little quieter, and I didn't even have to get my hands dirty.
27 Simon68 (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 03:43 pm Report abuse
26 Optimus_Princeps (#)
Feb 13th, 2013 - 01:37 pm

Bravo, Optimus, keep hitting them where they hurt. It's the only way they'll learn that getting out of poverty is through hard work, not through governent subsidies!!!!!!!
28 travellingscotsman (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 04:29 pm Report abuse
@ 25 you're welcome. @26 - if you are Argentine I apologise for lumping you in with the anti-semitic argentines that we had on this page earlier. I am sure that the majority of Argentines are not anti-semitic however comments that were posted above make me really angry. You seem like a well educated decent person.
29 pgerman (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
I was thinkint that the islanders were really very lucky to have for enemies such a government of incompetent people in a country that seems to destroy itself.

I'm Argentine, you know, living outside my country with italian background but with some jews in my familiy. Which is not that strange in Argentina that's basically a mix of different european cultures and backgrounds.
I have been checking the official figures of the Argentine Central Bank and it's quite evident that they are running out of dollars so they are, most probably, thinking about finding a country where oil cound be get at a convinient price or as a change for food.
What is scaring is that the Gobernment is just finding partners that are “parias” in the international community. It seems that they are not able to develope serious and long lasting commercial relationships with any other “regular” country.
To be honest, I don't know whether CFK will be able to finish this second term. She must rule the country forn three additional year with out any confidence, no money and with people suffering lot's of issues. I would be more than surprise if she finds the way to finish her second term regularly.
30 Optimus_Princeps (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
@28 It's alright. It's about 51% of the population, so in some cases you're at least half right. A Jewish couple crafted my wedding ring in fact, and I went to school with a few Jewish kids that made something of themselves.

As long as someone doesn't collect subsidies, disturb everyone around them with annoying and belligerent antics they are alright by me. I just think we should form a separate country with people that work. The rest can follow Cristina, in a country without money.
31 travellingscotsman (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 11:09 pm Report abuse
@ 29 and @ 30 - que buena gente son, pase algunos meses en Argentina, de hecho conozco un monton del pais, y la verdad es que me gusta mucho. Argentina es un buen pais y no tengo ningun problema con eel pueblo argentino, solo con su gobierno. Quiero que sepan que estan bienvenidos a gran bretana y mi pais dentro de la union, Escocia. Les deseo buena suerte con todo en su vida. Muchas gracias.
32 golfcronie (#) Feb 14th, 2013 - 12:43 am Report abuse
@31
Que, no entiendo nada
Hable Ingles
33 row82 (#) Feb 14th, 2013 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom? YES or NO

www.facebook.com/questions/477553115645297/

Join the debate on www.facebook.com/Britain1592

Falkland Islands Desire the Right!
34 slattzz (#) Feb 19th, 2013 - 08:59 pm Report abuse
@31 travelling no where
Argentina es un pais en contra de los ingleses.
Argentinos no tienen interes en sus comentarios.
get lost!

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