Wednesday, February 20th 2013 - 06:01 UTC

Dissident labour unions challenge Argentine government anti-inflation and salaries policies

A major labour dispute is turning into an ugly conflict with the main Argentine dissident labour union challenging the government of President Cristina Fernandez and her latest policy of freezing supermarket prices for two months in a bold attempt to contain inflation.

“They hate me but the truth is that they're also a bit scared of me” said Moyano

Hugo Moyano, once an ally and now the powerful leader of the anti-government organized labour CGT is putting pressure on wholesale distribution stores to have its workforce change union registration into his teamster organization from the commerce union, which happens to be aligned with the government.

“The Kirchnerite government is betraying the workforce. There is a whole attitude toward our organization. We have to find ways to get through what is thrown our way. The only person I kneel before is God. We will not falter or flake!” said Moyano Tuesday morning before the Labour Ministry in an improvised rally at the end of a protest march.

Earlier in the morning he had challenged Labour Minister Carlos Tomada “the biggest traitor” of the workers’ movement.

“They hate me but the truth is that they're also a bit scared of me” said Moyano at the steps of the Ministry.

The teamsters union, which is an affiliate of Hugo Moyano CGT umbrella organization, is blockading 30 out of 32 Maxiconsumo wholesale supermarkets through out Argentina.

In response to the blockade, which began on February 13 and has since spread, affecting the supply of goods to small and medium-sized supermarket chains Minister Tomada in a press conference stated that Moyano’s motives for a blockade “do not make sense.”

“Transferring wholesale logistics workers to the aegis of the teamsters union is like transferring judicial officials to an airplane pilot’s union; their jobs are simply not the same,” said Tomada.

The Labour Minister also stated that it was “more than mere coincidence” that Moyano had decided to blockade now and believed the cause was most likely political.

In effect last week Moyano announced the creation of a political party: “Party for Culture, Education and Work” (CPCEyT) to represent his umbrella union organization in the next October 2013 legislative elections.

Tomada insisted on his belief that the measure was designed to “distort the normal distribution of foodstuffs in order to disrupt the price freeze accord signed between all the supermarkets vendors” and Domestic Trade Secretary Guillermo Moreno. The minister requested that Moyano choose “the legal route” to protest, describing the current protest as “illegal.”

“Maxiconsumo workers do not feel represented by Moyano,” Tomada stated, and emphasized that “the government would always defend workers”.

At the same time, the protest measures could cause shortages of 50,000 products provided to small and medium-size businesses throughout the country, warned Maxiconsumo Company President Pedro Szapiro and the executive Director of the Federation of Chinese Supermarkets Miguel Angel Calvete.

Calvete remarked that it was an “inopportune time to hold the protest” since it started right after the government had reached a price control deal with the supermarkets and was worried that it could hurt the implementation of the accord.

The Chinese supermarket representative did admit, though, that the strike would not affect the large supermarket chains since they have their own distribution centres and purchase their goods directly from the factories.

Teamsters’ union under-secretary Pablo Moyano (and son of Hugo Moyano), who directly organized the blockade, accused the government of preventing Maxiconsumo logistic workers from receiving an extra 3,000 pesos in their monthly salary and other additional benefits.

Moyano stated that if the workers were allowed to transfer the logistic workers to their union, their standard of living would increase and blamed Commerce labour union leader Armando Cavalieri, who reports to the government aligned CGT labour union, for the worker’s “plight.”

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1 mastershakejb (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 11:32 am Report abuse
lol, argentina you're a hilarious disaster, thanks for the laughs as always
2 Rufus (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 11:46 am Report abuse
The Argentine government has anti-inflation policies?

Stone me, and I thought our politicians and their policies were useless...
3 LEPRecon (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 11:55 am Report abuse
“A major labour dispute is turning into an ugly conflict with the main Argentine dissident labour union challenging the government of President Cristina Fernandez and her latest policy of freezing supermarket prices for two months in a bold attempt to contain inflation.”

The Argentine government must think its being really clever! I mean freezing prices to try and contain inflation has never been done before!

Oh wait, it has, and it has NEVER worked.

The Argentine government is using a stop gap measure , a band-aid, to try and stop inflation from spiralling up out of control.

It didn't work in the past, and it won't work now.
4 yankeeboy (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 01:06 pm Report abuse
There are already cracks showing in the price control regime.

How a very large group of people believe something that has never worked in the HISTORY OF MANKIND will miraculously work in Argentina is beyond my comprehension.

You have to suspend all reality to support the Ks
5 Idlehands (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
All a price freeze does is push the cost of inflation onto the retailer for the duration of the freeze. Will their suppliers freeze prices? No. Will their prices shoot up afterwards to recoup lost profits? Probably.

To curb inflation somebody has to suffer the burden of it.
6 ElaineB (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 02:02 pm Report abuse
They have already moved the cost to an extent. Loyalty and discount schemes have been suspended in some supermarkets and only the cheaper brands are being frozen. There is also rationing.

The government is only concerned that it can claim their basket of essentials is frozen in price, to try to fool people, but I suspect if you looked across the full range of shopping the retailer is not losing out. Why would they? Even if they are K supporters as some newspapers claim, they are a business.
7 Condorito (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
I am just back from a little drive through the lake district. Drove over from Osorno to Bariloche. Took the kids for a walk in Nahuel Huapi, got back to the car to find the passenger side window smashed in.

Next we took the lovely scenic route up to San Martin. I went to fill up with gas and found I had to wait in a 300 car line. I asked the locals if it would be better returning the next day. No way they said, there will be no gas tomorrow. Went to the supermarket, shelves empty. (So nice to cross lago Pirihueico to the Huilo Huilo reserve - amazing place should anyone get the chance).

The problems over there are real and getting worse: crime, poverty, shortages, rationing - on the bright side I didn't have to pay any bribes to bent cops this time (unlike the 3 corrupt coppers who wanted money on my recent drive to Cordoba).

Price fixing is yet another hopeless decision taken by CFK.
8 redpoll (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 04:35 pm Report abuse
I wouldnt trust Moyano further than I could spit. Another demagogue with political ambitions.
Gas queues in San Martin de los Andes? A prime tourist town? Things are worse than I thought
9 Condorito (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
Yes, I was very disappointed this time. Everything just seems to be going the wrong way over there. I had to report the broken window to the police for my insurance back here. I asked if theft in national parks was common. Increasingly so they replied, especially if you have Chilean plates or a hire car.

I think infrastructure failings and crime are beginning to dent tourism in Argentina. Last year saw the number of Argies holidaying outside Argentina surpass the number of foreign visitors arriving in Argentina for the first time in many years.
10 Think (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 05:28 pm Report abuse
(7) Condorito & (8) redpoll

Gas queues on the Summer High Season in the Patagonian Lake District…….
How very strange……
It happens just…….. well………….. almost every year.

Inform yourselves, hermanitos Shilenos & Yoruguas..:

”Preguntando a los playeros nos dicen que el abastecimiento es normal, lo que sucede es que se ha multiplicado por tres la venta y no se da abasto con los surtidores y los empleados……… Se advertía en las largas colas que no había mala predisposición y que se comprendía el hecho de que el verano estaba siendo un gran éxito turístico.”

Sorry about your car window..... I apologize on behalf of my Country.
One question?...:
You wouldn't declare more than it was stolen to the Insurance Company........., would you?
(That's a trick I learned in Europe..... Everybody does it there.....)
11 yankeeboy (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 05:35 pm Report abuse
300 car long queues for gas are normal?
Goodness gracious what a place!

Violent tax riots yesterday too!

where will it end?
12 Think (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 05:45 pm Report abuse
(9) Condorito

For the peace of mind of Poster (11) Mr. Fred Bates, shoe salesman from Watchington DC, would you contemplate the posibility of “re-thinking” your figure of a 300 cars queue?
You know how long a 300 car queue is?
About 2 kilometers....
That's 20 blocks!
Taí siguro weón?
13 ElaineB (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
@9 Ah, that is a shame. I have been to Bariloche a couple of times and had a good time there. I didn't feel at all in danger despite walking all over the place after dark.

I did that scenic drive to San Martin. I had the crudiest hire car ever, lol, you can imagine the drive along those dirt roads was an adventure. One touch to the brakes and it was like driving on ice but I really loved San Martin. The first night there we had a power cut mid-meal - an enterprising waiter used his car headlights so we could finish the meal - and walked back to the hotel by moonlight. The power was out for about 12 hours and they blamed BsAs for stealing all the power. Apparently it happens all the time.

We didn't queue for petrol back then and I didn't visit supermarkets so things have deteriorated.

? I think insurance fraud is not a European trend but rather down to the individual's morals. I have never done it and don't know anyone that has.
14 Ayayay (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
@7 Glad there were honest peace officers I think that's better than the window thing. And you got to enjoy the beautiful ........VISTAS.......
Which honestly, were there before the current population and will ne there after the current population.
15 Condorito (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
10 Think:
Apology (on behalf of Argentina) accepted.

I don't go to San Martin every summer, it is only the second time I have been so I wouldn't know if it was normal. But it is certainly not normal on this side in equally busy holiday towns. Why would that be?

Well my figure of 300 was an approximation based on the 5 hour wait. I thought, 3 pumps, 3 mins per car, that's 1 car a min through the station.

Unfortunately I won't be making a bogus insurance claim. Chilean insurers are all “duro de pagar”.

“I didn't feel at all in danger despite walking all over the place after dark. ”
For your own sake, I would urge you to not feel so safe at night in Argentinean or Chilean cities. You are safe until you are unlucky.
16 ElaineB (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
@15 I would extend that to most cities. Bariloche is so small it didn't feel all that menacing. But I shall heed the warning, especially in Argentina where crime seems to be increasing enough to scare the Argentines. I have noticed the tension increase over the years that I have travelled there.
17 briton (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 07:32 pm Report abuse
Dissident labour unions challenge Argentine government
Well considering CFK has failed to give her people the promised victory,
Perhaps the unions can give the people victory, and get rid of CFK and her government,
18 redpoll (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 07:33 pm Report abuse
No need to apologise- unless it was you that did it!
“everybody does it” Another example of viveza criolla and probably thats why your insurance rates are so high. The insurance companies are not fools and take that into account
You must realize that there are honest people on these boards whatever thier opinions on the Falklands or Argentina, who just dont follow the Argentine way
I have never seen lines here at gas stations except on the occasions the Ducsa transport drivers have been on strike
Lots of Argentines come through here on thier way to Brazil and they NEVER have to queue up for gas.
Something seems to be wrong with your gas distribution system
Yes I know our nafta and gasoil prices here are horrendously expensive mainly owing to the inefficiency of our state oil company ANCAP and swingeing taxes on fuel and honestly it doesnt amuse me that Argentine tourists get a voucher for 25 liters of free fuel on crossing the frontier which I indirectly have to pay for
19 Think (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
(15) Condorito
You say...:
“ is certainly not normal on this side in equally busy holiday towns. Why would that be?”
I say...:
Because there is something very wrong with our gas distribution system.

(18) redpoll
You say....:
“Something seems to be wrong with your gas distribution system”
I say...:
No s**t Sherlock....
20 brit0n (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 08:12 pm
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21 Condorito (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
19 Think
Glad to see you in a jollier mood today.

You say:
“Because there is something very wrong with our gas distribution system.”

I say:
What is it that is wrong with the gas distribution?
You only need to coordinate a tanker to pick up gas at A and take it to B.
That can't be beyond the wit of my primos trasandinos, so there must be something else lurking in the equation.
22 Think (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 08:42 pm Report abuse
(21) Condorito

You say, at (7)....:
“Went to the supermarket, shelves empty.”

I say....:
Care to tell us which supermarket it was ?
Care to tell us where that supermarket was ?
Care to tell us what shelves were empty at that supermarket ?
23 Condorito (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
22 Think
I was hoping for enlightenment as to why there is a problem with gas distribution.... Well it transpires that the shortage of gas was caused by a blockade put in place by people who are complaining about a shortage of water. So it seems there was a specific reason on this occasion rather than it being down to the regular summer shortages you mentioned. At least that is something to be happy about, sort of.

Supermarkets: sorry I don't have a detailed inventory to present. When I say “empty shelves” read “shelves with much less of what one would expect to find in a supermarket”.
24 briton (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
20 susy
again you have been reported,
mercopress should throw you of this site.
25 Steveu (#) Feb 20th, 2013 - 10:43 pm Report abuse
@20 I think we all get the joke now..

Your pretending to be anyone who has either an “o” in their name or lots of zzz's, Right?

I'd stick to your “art” with the ping p0ng balls if I were you...
26 Think (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 01:33 am Report abuse
(23) Condorito

We seem to be better informed now than at post (7).....

1) It transpired that the shortage of gas in San Martin de los Andes, where queues were not 300 cars long, was caused by a blockade put in place by people who where complaining about a shortage of water.......
So it seems there was a specific reason on this occasion rather than it being down to the regular summer shortages I mentioned.....

2) “Empty shelves” were not “empty shelves” but shelves with much less of what one would expect to find in a supermarket”.

Hoping having contributed to your “enlightenment”.
Regards from ALLENDE la cordillera.
Hasta siempre.
El Think.
27 yankeeboy (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 01:08 pm Report abuse
So this is reconciled in Think's tiny brain since the gas shortages was caused by a water shortage.
Yeah that makes it all very clear and understandable.

Well what have we seen in the last week or so around Rg land:

Violent protests over no electricity
Violent protests over no water
Huge protest against the signing of agreements with terrorist states

Looks like everything is going swimmingly
28 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
No, no, its us, the sepoys. Have just returned from a 2 year spell sabotaging Argentina. Read all about it here:-

Chuckle chuckle indeed!
29 Pirat-Hunter (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 05:33 pm Report abuse
#27 at least CFK is not arming Muslim terrorists or mexican drug cartels nor burning fishing ships as the english do. Sorry but murderers need to be put in their cage by law abiding citizens of this planet, Remove the log from your eyes to better see the stick in my eye.
CIA, mossad, mi6 and jews don't like the truth commission because they are in the business of arming terrorists and a natural resources theft wars based on lies as the WMD and terrorists in Iraq, Saddam had the terrorist in check, while USA still arming them in the middle east, killing innocent Muslims for oil is not a policy one can be proud of and people who support them don't have the moral grounds to lecture Argentina over the truth commission with Iran, could the fear be that Iran and Argentina exposes CIA mossad and mi6 oil terror networks and operations around the world??? Did people forget CIA armed and trained bin laden. What a bunch of retards the english are, get a life loosers and stop lecturing people on subjects you are the cause of.
#24 poor britards must be all the horse meat you eat this week making you talk BS.
#23 lol how can you be sure it wasn't a sold out store. I mean you people are the same retards who armed bin laden and then killed thousands of innocent Muslims to end terrorism while even after bin laden death the terrorists got more weapons and power, retards like you need to go back and fix Afghanistan and Iraq before attempting to lecture anyone.
30 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 06:12 pm Report abuse
Pieces of eight!
#29 Pirate Hunter, your poor twisted twit. You swallow it hook line and sinker don't you! You are so gulible uniformed and a real live plank!

Ha ha ha..... It's the sepoys you idiot, our agents are trashing your country and sabotaging everything including sinking that ship, even as we speak

:-))))) - hilarious!
31 redpoll (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
No can do with looking for enemies without as none takes any notice of the diplomatic belligerence?
So Look for enemies within as is happening. The unions, the farmers, the Press? The Witch conducting a witch hunt?
32 Condorito (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
“#23 lol how can you be sure it wasn't a sold out store. I mean you people are the same retards who armed bin laden and then killed thousands of innocent Muslims ”

How can I be sure? Because, unlike you I visit Argentina periodically.

You will find that our armed forces are dedicated to the job of defending national territory and not killing thousands of Muslims. Or are you going to break one of your deluded conspiracy theories on us... Chilean arms deal with Hezbollah...oh wait a minute, it's Argentina who is getting in to bed with the Iranian regime.
33 briton (#) Feb 21st, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
poor pirate hunter,
the only blind hunter at sea,

west africa and somalia old boy,
bragging on here keeps you out of harms way..
34 Pirat-Hunter (#) Feb 22nd, 2013 - 08:16 am Report abuse
#30 I Call that being informed, The anti Muslim war is an english thing, Iran is just another target like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Facts are something you should add to your daily dose of horse meat and BS.
#31 I could take you serious if any of those people you mention worked harder then CFK but we all know the truth, moyano in Argentina is symbol of strikes.
#32 CIA, mossad nor mi6 work for Argentina, I am sure Iran and Argentina have a truth commission to solve the Jews problems.
#33 There is a place and time for everything.
35 agent999 (#) Feb 22nd, 2013 - 12:31 pm Report abuse
@34 PH
just an English thing ??????

Bosnia & Herzegovina
Czech Rep
Korea - South
New Zealand
United Kingdom
United States

United Arab Emirates
36 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 22nd, 2013 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
#34 Pirat teat - Informed? Sorry old chap you missed out the mis!

Ho ho ho ho :-)))))

You should travel the world and meet other peoples like the British do. Then you would get a balanced view of what goes on in the world instead of reading all those stupid Falklands are Argentine posters splattered over your closed down shops, ramshackle railway stations and potholes motorways. Get the truth not propaganda and lies.

Here is the truth:

Read and learn....
37 Pirat-Hunter (#) Feb 23rd, 2013 - 09:55 am Report abuse
#35 yes just an english thing, the rest are just cheer leaders on payroll.
#36 you know what they say! One man news is another man propaganda.

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