Monday, February 25th 2013 - 06:36 UTC

Argentina celebrates Africa’s 54 countries support for Malvinas sovereignty

Africa’s fifty four countries joined South America “in recognizing the legitimate sovereignty rights of Argentina over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”, announced the Argentine Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a communiqué in reference to the so called Declaration of Malabo, capital of Equatorial Guinea.

The family picture of the ASA meeting in Equatorial Guinea

The African countries position reflected in the Malabo declaration was born out of the III Summit of South American and African countries which was held during two days precisely in Malabo.

The declaration also includes Argentina’s claim condemning hedge funds (‘vulture funds’) and measures to promote cooperation South to South programs and projects among the two regions.

The Argentine ministry in the release underlines that the “document is a diplomatic victory for our country since it is the first time that the whole of Africa joins our continent in declaring legitimate the rights of the Argentine Republic in the sovereignty dispute over the Falkland Islands”.

The declaration also calls on “the UK to resume negotiations with Argentina for a fair, peaceful and definitive solution to the dispute, as soon as possible and in conformity with the relevant resolutions from the UN and other regional and international organizations”

Foreign minister Hector Timerman thanked at Equatorial Guinea the solidarity from the leaders and Foreign ministers whom participated at the III summit of South America-Africa (ASA) and pointed out that “Africa is currently a priority for Argentina’s foreign policy”.

The statement is supported by the fact that the administration of President Cristina Fernandez had decided to re-open and open several diplomatic legations in Africa and specifically mentioned Ethiopia and Mozambique.

The first ASA Summit was held in Abuja, Nigeria, November 30, 2006, while the second, on Isla Margarita, Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, September 27, 2009.

Article 26 of the declaration refers to the Falklands:

26. We recognize the legitimate rights of the Argentine Republic in the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas Islands, South Georgias and South Sandwich Islands, and the surrounding maritime areas, and urge the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to resume negotiations with the Argentine Republic in order to find, as soon as possible, a fair, peaceful and definitive solution to the dispute, in accordance with the relevant resolutions of the United Nations and other regional and international organizations.

Article 58 refers to the ‘vulture funds’:

58. We reiterate that financial reform should aim to facilitate that investments are channelled to development objectives and not to speculative activities. We support a reduction in the mechanical dependency on the Credit Rating Agencies, an increase in their transparency, accountability and competition amongst them. Furthermore, we recognize the need to tackle tax havens, which facilitate tax evasion, corruption and criminal activities and offer an operating base to vulture funds. Finally, we emphasize the need to put limits to the action of these funds in order to avoid that their behaviour jeopardize the international financial stability
 

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1 Monkeymagic (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:50 am Report abuse
Simple:

We will reopen the sovereignty debate of the Falklands, SG and the SSI (land which Argentinas predecessor the UP had for less than 60 days with fewer than 60 people) when Argentina unilaterally withdraws from Patagonia (land which is stole from an indigenous population through genocide in a repugnant act of 19th century colonialism.

When Argentina sets up Patagonia as an independent Amerindian State with full reimbursement of oil and mineral rights stolen from them by the Argentine pirates and usurpers, the Government of the United Kingdom of GB and NI will agree to take the case of the aforementioned islands to the ICJ for a final and definitive answer.

FREE PATAGONIA Jajajajajajajaja
2 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:54 am Report abuse
@1

But you can't do that since the Falkland Islands were claimed by the United Kingdom of GB and I. There is no such country in the world today... so basically you keep the Falklands because you sent pregnant peasants there in the 1800s, but you can wave bye-bye to Antarctica because the UK of GB and NI never made a CLAIM. jajajajajaja
3 brit abroad (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:20 am Report abuse
RG's are nothing more than thieving monkeys!

And FYI (u dumbf#$%) the british made a claim which is considered official in 1908 to a portion on Antarctica. some 40 years before teh RG's did!!

You really are an idiot!!!!
4 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:25 am Report abuse
@3

Exactly, a claim made by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

Last time I checked my world map, there is no such country in existence today.

Since you never made a claim as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, you are legally screwed. Adding to the fact you are screwed geographically, and in self-determination.

UK-Falklands, yes. UK-Antarctica, you can forget it.
5 mastershakejb (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:25 am Report abuse
lol, doesn't matter. What does Africa have to trade anyway? Poverty and violence. They don't produce anything, other than whatever minerals and cocoa have been bought up by European/American interests anyway. They are literally the #1 least important region in the world.
6 LEPRecon (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:30 am Report abuse
@2

Oh look a troll.

I've just read the statement. No where do these 54 countries state that they support Argentina's sovereignty claims. They only say that the UK and Argentina should talk.

Well the UK was willing to talk, and Argentina refused. So what they are probably saying is Argentina why aren't you talking?

So the Argentine government telling more lies to try and distract the people of Argentina from the fact that they've buggered up the country for several generations.

Well done, Cristina, for ensuring that Argentina isn't a threat militarily. Well done, Crisitina, for ensuring that Argentina will never be taken seriously on the international stage by allowing the amateurish and clownish Hector and Alicia to speak on behalf of Argentina.

Oh and regards Anarctica, the UK's claim predates Argentina's by more than 40 years, there are records of this, Argentina can lie all it wants but it won't alter the facts, no matter how many pregnant women you force to give birth there.

Being born somewhere doesn't automatically give someone the rights to that land. That's in international law too.
7 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:35 am Report abuse
There is no UK of GB and NI claim on Antarctica. There was a claim by the UK of GB and I, but that nation no longer exist.

Just like the United Provinces and her claims no longer exist, as the British here love to promulgate.

This means it's game over for the UK on Antarctica.

If you hold a self-determination referendum in Antarctica? You lose.
If you hold an arbitration based on geography? You lose.
If you go to court of justice? You lose (due to the technicality above).

And that's that.
8 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:36 am Report abuse
4 _INTROLLREGNVM_

“Exactly, a claim made by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Last time I checked my world map, there is no such country in existence today”

What?? The United Kingdom?? doesn't surprise me!! All the maps that Argentina use don't have any other countries included on them.

I tell you what, my mentally challenged troll, get yourself an up-to-date atlas and join the 21st Century!!!
9 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:37 am Report abuse
@8

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, I can't find it anywhere. And courts are very fussy about being precise and technical. Game over, accept it and move on.
10 brit abroad (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:59 am Report abuse
@4

Legally screwed????? You are more of an idiot than i thought!!

Firstly, no one will get any part of Antarctica unless one group decides to cause problems to the existing treaty! so neither RGland, Chile, UK, Norway etc, can do very much at all except “claim”! This is very different to the Falklands issue, as we are not “claiming” them, we already own and reside in them.

Secondly, the existing territory claimed by the UK was actually legally formed in 1962 (a year after the 1961 treaty) although the UK's claim to this portion of the Antarctic dates back to 1908 and 1917. This means the claim acknowledged by the international community was made under the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland......which my little monkey friend means you are talking out of your chocolate starfish!!!!!
11 Musky (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:00 am Report abuse
@9 _INT
Don't tell me, the United Kingdom is Argentine, stolen from Spain, bequethed by the Borgia Pope Popsicle on his death bed whilst indulging in a game of 'hide the sausage' with Diego Maradonna (god's one true representative of football). my posting is as sensible as yours.
12 AzaUK (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:33 am Report abuse
Argetina is a foul country that brainwashes little children in to believing something is there when clearly for 180 years it isnt, this rouge little nation invaded a small island nation in a vane attempt to colonize it for there petty country. they fail of course so now have taken the tactic of bullying other nations in to agreeing with there believes. other nation not perceptually caring enough however side with Argentina just to be better friends with it. as great relationships is also near assured by United Kingdom because they do not see it as an issue, and rightly so. so again Argentina will fail. because unlike Argentina the UK Believes in the rule of law and principals such as the principle of self determination. Argentina an infant nation with there infant views will not win and they cant be allowed. a similar sort of thing happened in 1939 and leading up to that date when a small nation decreed to be come more powerful taking back lands it claims. two country stood up to it one quickly capitulated and the other great nation spend years and men to bring an end to the evil. we did it once and are capable of doing it again. so Argentina enjoy your “Dollar Clamp” and your 9%+ public or 20%+ rate of inflation we and the islander want nothing of it thanks though for the offer, regards UK
13 Shed-time (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:39 am Report abuse
Tobias is upset because Argentina wasn't the successor state after the UP therefore legally doesn't inherit anything, unlike the UK. He also doesn't seem to realise the pregnant women being shipped around were argentine.

He should get back to celebrating the junta wars like normal argentines.
14 Martin Woodhead (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:59 am Report abuse
Perfct excuse to cut the foreign aid budget then.
Lets see how they lie that.
15 Monkeymagic (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:06 am Report abuse
@2 Nossie

As you will see from my post @1, I recognised the UP as a precursor state to Argentina, and recognised its fewer than 60 people for fewer than 60 days in 1832, so your UK&I reference is complete bollocks...as a normal Argie, you are making an irrelevant comment, based on not properly understanding what was written.

As far as Antartica is concerned. Personally, I couldnt care who has it as long as it isnt Argentina, their shit-stain across the earth is already big enough...surely effluent doesnt spread that thin!
16 Redrow (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:11 am Report abuse
“in recognizing the legitimate sovereignty rights of Argentina over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”
This is a significant misquotation of the actual declaration:
“recognize the legitimate rights of the Argentine Republic in the sovereignty dispute”.

Recognizing legitmate rights in a dispute is NOT the same thing as supporting a particular side in that dispute. It is a deliberately ambivalent statement that Argentina was able to insert specifically because no-one could disagree with it (i.e. they do have the right to be part of a dispute just like any other country in the world). This is just a new preamble to the same old call for negotiations. Shame no-one asked them why the refused talks last month but hey-ho.
17 Doveoverdover (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:20 am Report abuse
My disappointment at the quality of the current crop of desk officers in the FCO is now matched by my disappointment at the quality of their Argentinian counterparts.

En una reunión histórica en la lucha contra el colonialismo, los 54 países de África se unieron a Sudamérica para reconocer los legítimos derechos de soberanía de la Argentina sobre las Islas Malvinas, Georgias del Sur y Sandwich del Sur, y los espacios marítimos circundantes.

This is a risible interpretation of the declaration.
18 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:24 am Report abuse
@Brits

Well, it seems that TTT is grasping at straws, just to wind us up - and get attention, again.

His arguments are especially weak this time.
Not worth arguing with him really.

With all this Referendum controversy and Iran/ phantom missiles business going on, TTT is not getting the attention he craves - nobody is talking about him.
19 Shed-time (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:36 am Report abuse
Does trimmerman know that bearing false witness goes against one of the ten commandments, and as a Jew trying to get gold, that is an issue for him?
20 Boovis (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:31 am Report abuse
The declaration just states that they recognise the rights of Argentina over the claims and they hope for negotiations, where does it say “The islands belong to Argentina”? I can't see that anywhere?
21 Room101 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:39 am Report abuse
Mercopress has to follow this line between facts and propoganda; the newspaper is based in Uruguay and is the world mouthpiece for most South American countries. This article reeks of mixing-bowl propoganda and African misrepresentation. But the newspaper does at least allow for critiscism of its unavoidable dilemma. Tightrope existence.
22 Rufus (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:48 am Report abuse
@20 Boovis

Of course it doesn't say that, they never would. They'd express vague concern at a level similar to a case of indigestion and then move on to the next thing.

Article 26 referrs to the Falkland Islands, true enough, and calls for negotiations (but that's it). Article 25 expresses concern over the civil war in Syria, and Article 27 calls for the ending of the US blockade of Cuba.

Article 58 does mention vulture funds (but doesn't condemn them, just the tax havens that they operate from). Article 57 expresses concern about the Eurozone debt crisis and article 59 stresses their commitment to further reform of the financial system.

What impresses me is that there are only 86 points before they've set the whole world to rights, and that includes setting the date and place of the next meeting...
23 ElaineB (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:58 am Report abuse
Uruguay has the only truly recognised free press in Latin America.

If Mercopress chooses to invite debate, good for them. We are adult enough to make our own minds up and research items that interest us to reach a personal conclusion.
24 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:09 am Report abuse
I think the natives are going to start getting louder. The 27th is two days away and more so, February is near and end. After reaching a trade balance surplus low of 280 million...continuing the trend based on asslip kirchner brilliant policies, they should see their first deficit.....meaning...NO U$. Next debt payment is March 31....only 180 million......but they have other purchasing needs also......like oil to import. The noose she tied is getting tighter.
25 Musky (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:11 am Report abuse
@22 Rufus
Indeed, it's a re-interation for talks not the oxymoron 'give the falklands back'. Britain did all the talking it needed to do. UN says we are not in breach of any treaties/charters or resolutions therefore britain is playing it cool and correctly.
26 mastershakejb (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:38 am Report abuse
US economy grew 2.2 percent in 2012
Argentina economy grew 1.9 percent, according to official inflated, manipulated stats.
LOL, so where is your theory that US is dying and Argentina is booming, RG retarded trolls?
27 Anbar (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:46 am Report abuse
“”“”“”“”“recognize the legitimate rights of the Argentine Republic in the sovereignty dispute”.“”“”“”“”“

lol - ”nice“ missquote of an entirely apathetic ”says nothing” statement.

I wonder how long it took those African ministers to come up with the terminology that they could get away with without upsetting the UK, but giving enough room for BA to miss-quote it to their satisfaction.

lol
28 Shed-time (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:51 am Report abuse
I recognise a mugger's legitimate rights to my wallet, but I don't recognise their illegitimate rights to my walled.

Obfuscation for tea anyone?
29 HansNiesund (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 12:08 pm Report abuse
What a diplomatic triumph this is.

Off they go to Africa with 12 of their mates where they duly play the decolonization card for all it's worth to such paragons as Mugabe and Obiango, and all they manage to get is an anodyne, lowest common denominator kind of declaration that nobody could possibly object to, which they are then obliged to misquote and misrepresent in their own media.

As a diplomatic triumph, this is on a level with Timeman's visit to London where, despite several days whizzing about on his unicycle, parping his klaxon, snapping his braces, and just gagging for someone to pour a bucket of cold water down his trousers, hardly a soul noticed, and of those that did, none was dumb enough to fall for it.

But I do agree with their call for reform of the Security Council. I think that nobody with a transparency international ranking worse than 75 should be let in the door.
30 thorpeman (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 12:27 pm Report abuse
Im sick of this rubbish It's high time we moved any remaining troops from the Rhineland & shifted the whole lot, lock stock & barrel to the Falklands & then get Hague to send telex (I'm assuming they still use them as theyre that backward) to Argentina saying ”Come & Have a go if you think your hard enough!
31 Conqueror (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
@2 1908 and 1917!
@4 Argie “claims” to the Falkland Islands are based on the activities of the Republic of Buenos Aires. Not a predecessor state of argieland!
@22 If I may point out that Point 26 doesn't refer to the Falkland Islands. It refers to a mythical place believed to be in the vicinity of Neverland and Oz!
32 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 12:50 pm Report abuse
Who are these 54 countries? still can not find a list. Surely, it would make much more of a propoganda coup for Argentina to name them? Much more of an impact to publish, we have the support of:
Nigeria.
South Africa.
Congo.
Etc, etc!
33 jeffski (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:12 pm Report abuse
Who gives a toss who supports the despots and who does not over the islands, they clutch at any little straw they can it is called “desperation” the world has some big major problems to deal with, no one gives a flying fuck about a bankrupt country full of corrupt so called politicians who have no diplomatic skills what so ever. Any country that even hints at been on friendly terms with these despots is then deemed to support 10000000% their claim to the islands. FO Argentina and sort your own ramshackle of a country before trying to steal someone else's.
34 Rufus (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:15 pm Report abuse
@27 Anbar

That's the real skill in diplomacy, the ability to produce lots of nice sounding words while not actually saying anything at all...
35 Gordo1 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:23 pm Report abuse
May we have a list of the 54 countries?
36 Simon68 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
35 Gordo1 (#)
Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:23 pm

As I understand it, there are 54 African countries that usually take part in the ASA, but this year only 20 of them showed up. Thus the Argentine Chancelor is not only lying about the wording of the Malabo Declaration, he is also lying about the number of signatories!!!!!!!
37 Anglotino (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
I too support Argentina's LEGITIMATE rights regarding the Falkland, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and associated maritime areas.

However as Argentina has yet to ever prove a LEGITIMATE right to these areas I don't have to worry.

Neither does the UK!

Congratulations Argentina you just got 54 countries to state the bleeding obvious.
38 JB (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
@35 There was a time in which Africa was of a great importance to the UK....@36 every african country was represented in the summit by their gov offciers
39 Pirate Love (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
@2 mmmm..., well going by YOUR logic It confirms Argentina has no claim at all, as Argentina bases its claim on inheriting any territory right to the Falklands after gaining independence from spain many moons ago,
now heres were your logic comes in, seen as Argentinas assumption of inheritence took place As the spanish colony renamed to “United provinces of the Río de la Plata”, then renamed to “Argentine republic”, then “Argentine Confederation”, then “Argentine Nation” , and then back to “Argentine Republic”, WOW so many name changes in one country, clearly making any claim void as your logic points out its all about name change! YOUR logic by the way!

so are you sure you still wish to continue with your bulls**t based on a “technicality”?????

SELF-DETERMINATION..........A bright shining light amidst the smoke.
40 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 02:28 pm Report abuse
JB
Okay, then who were they? Where can I find a list of the 54 Foreign Affairs Ministers that attended the conference?

Christ how hard can it be to get a list of names, this is supposed to be the age of the internet, an age of unprecedented access to information for all. Just post a link!
41 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
Perhaps these are some of Kirchners news friends they def seem to have a lot in common

•Teodoro Obiang, president of Equatorial Guinea, has a genius for insuring that none of his country’s vast oil wealth goes to help its impoverished people, over 60 percent of whom live on less than $1 a day. His son, Teodorin, is building a mammoth $380 million luxury yacht, whose cost is three times more than the country spends on health care and education combined. This, in addition to a fleet of luxury cars and a $35 million estate in Malibu. Asked once how he managed to spend so outrageously on a government salary, the despot’s son and presumed successor said in a sworn affidavit that in Equatorial Guinea, government ministers can partner with companies that win government contracts. As a result, he wrote, “a cabinet minister ends up with a sizable part of the contract price in his bank account

Robert Mugabe / Mangwanani
•Thanks to Robert Mugabe, among the longest-standing leaders in Africa, Zimbabwe is ranked as one of the most corrupt countries by Transparency International. Citing the country’s unbridled corruption, the United States and the European Union have imposed sanctions against economic trade with the country, and barred Mugabe and his top officials from coming to Europe and the U.S. That, however, has not stopped Mugabe from spending his own country’s minimal resources for himself and his cronies: Mugabe is on track to spend nearly $50 million on foreign travel this year. He has a fancy house in the richest district of Hong Kong. His heavy-handed tactics have only brought violence and poverty to a country that was once seen as the breadbasket of Africa.

President Joseph Kabila / Helene C. Stikkel – DOD
•Since taking office as president in 2001 following the assasination of his father Laurent, Joseph Kabila is seen as doing little to combat corruption and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. The country is resource rich: Diamonds, cobalt and rare minerals
42 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
That's three of them 51 more to go!
43 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 02:45 pm Report abuse
A similar wtite up on Kirchner she definetely as a lot in common with her new found friends.

Cristina Kirchner / Official
•Even before she was elected president of Argentina, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner carried the haze of corruption. In the most famous case, an emissary from Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela, was discovered at the Buenos Aires airport carrying a briefcase stuffed with $800,000 in cash, destined, he later told the FBI, to support Kirchner’s presidential bid. Kirchner denied the allegation. Within Argentina, many question the huge fortune Kirchner and her late husband Nestor amassed since taking public office. Her declared personal wealth stands at $13.8 million, up from $500,000 when the couple first entered national politics. Kirchner cites income from real estate and hotels the couple had purchased to explain the 2,600 percent return on the couple’s investment purse. Corruption watchers complain that her government has neutered government oversight, giving auditing posts to cronies compromised by conflicts of interest. The result: corruption cases take an average of 14 years to work through the system, according to the non-profit Center for the Study and Prevention of Economic Crimes, and only 15 in 750 cases have led to convictions.
44 Orbit (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 02:51 pm Report abuse
“Argentina celebrates”.

I love the quaint local customs of these exotic countries; teachers show their celebratory joy by going out on strike and students by protesting. And am sure the shanty town dwellers must forget their 18th century living conditions following such great news. They'll be thinking we don't need safe water and electricity supplies, we've got celebrating to do!
45 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
And Timerman thanking the local people for there support when most of them don't know where the next meal is coming from nevermind where The Falkland Islands are located,Am I right in saying the leader of Equatorial Guinea is partial to a little human flesh on his menu.
46 Shed-time (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
Argentina celebrates at the behest of trimmerman and his crone and cronies.

Makes me glad I don't live in their world, to be honest.
47 mastershakejb (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
I kinda find it hilarious how butthurt UK got Argentina, and how Cristina is spazzing out all over the planet all day/night while failing to address the HORRIFIC economic crisis at home at ALL.
But, maybe the UK should just let the Falklands rule themselves entirely, and just be military backup. That way Cristina would have nothing she could bitch about, it would just be an island bent on self determination/sovereignty, the very same thing Cristina rages about all day. So it'd actually make Cristina look like the devil if she kept trying to exert pressure on Falklands.
But either way suits me fine, whether Falklands are sovereign with UK military protection, or they're a “colony” of UK. I'm just thinking out loud......and laughing out loud, at Argentina, as usual, as is the rest of the world.
We're all just waiting for the next default, and Cristina will be out the back door.
48 Rufus (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 05:15 pm Report abuse
“But, maybe the UK should just let the Falklands rule themselves entirely, and just be military backup. That way Cristina would have nothing she could bitch about, it would just be an island bent on self determination/sovereignty, the very same thing Cristina rages about all day. So it'd actually make Cristina look like the devil if she kept trying to exert pressure on Falklands.”

Except that's exactly what the UK are doing. The Falkland Islands (as I'm sure I must have typed quite a few hundred times already) are entirely self governing with the exception of defence and foreign relations, and manage a proportion of the former, and as much of the latter as they have the people to do.
49 GFace (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 05:35 pm Report abuse
(Oh swell... I go on travel for a week and come back not only via a long Detroit layover but also come home to see that “Mr Saddam=Poland” has yet another pseudonym to carry on with his whataboutery and pining for Antarctica.)

Like others I support AR's right to its legitimate interests in the Falklands. I'm sure the ICJ will gladly help articulate what these rights are for AR. It can be done on an post-it note and need only involve making a simple circle. Next case, please.
50 screenname (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
This is a massive excuse to stop throwing money at African countries, even if it is being misrepresenteed by Argentina.
51 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
#43 ANDY 65 Have a close look at a picture of Chavez, and then have a quick look at a picture of Maximo. Please notice the close resemblance. Could that be what the $800,000 was for?
52 Think (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

Fifty four more nails in the British diplomatic coffin in the South Atlantic......
53 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:13 pm Report abuse
Pray tell us more, what do you see as the outcome of this?

Argentine sovereignty?

If so, when?
54 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
Meanwhile in the real world, horse meat meatballs, triple AAA rating gone, bigger and bigger deficits, no growth, avian flu, and that's the life these people are glad to have.
55 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:18 pm Report abuse
Hmmmm! smell that?

Envyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
56 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:23 pm Report abuse
Envy... I just woke up from staying up all night drinking wonderful wines, beautiful women, tango and classical concerts, fine food, cheeses... one day down, 9 to go. The world's greatest wine celebration.

I'll take that over running for my life at a school or shopping mall, dying from a meat infection of horse or mad cow.
57 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:30 pm Report abuse
Running for your life at schools and shopping malls?

Shoppings malls?

Think you are getting your continents mixed up a liitle there mate.
58 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
I was being magnanimous in my pity for life in the misnomed 1st world.
59 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
@Hyper inflation,food shotages due to price controls, mass strikes, crime ridden streets-sounds a wonderful place to live-Nice to see SO MUCH British talent rewarded last night at The Oscars,didn't notice anything Argentine being mentioned.
60 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
@59

Who gives an F about the Oscars?

I don't even watch 99% of English-language movie garbage.

There is no hyper inflation btw, and no mass strikes in Mendoza.

Why can't you allow others to have dissenting views?
61 slattzzz (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
As stated above cut foriegn aid to these so called 54 countries and watch them backtrack
@56 perhaps you'd like to share all that with the millions living below the poverty line in rgenweener, instead of crowing about it
62 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
You have to admit, there is much more forced sharing in Argentina than in the UK, where there are also millions in poverty, 1 in 5 in fact that's 15 million poor, 3.5 million households.
63 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:49 pm Report abuse
INTROLLREGNVM,And while Argentines suffer there Botox Queen Crissy The rat Kirchners Arse and lips get bigger and bigger a leader now listed on THE CORRUPT ALLSTARS list what an endorsement,but ofcourse everyone else is wrong she's a great leader. If Mendoza is such a nice place welkl thats not the info listed on The FCO.GOV.UK web sit as follows

Crime
The most common crimes are distraction theft, bag snatching and armed robberies. Take particular care in restaurants and internet cafes, on public transport and in the tourist areas of San Telmo, La Boca and Retiro. Keep a close eye on your personal possessions at all times. Avoid carrying large amounts of cash or wearing jewellery. Avoid isolated or poorly lit areas at night.

Con-men have been known to rob tourists while an accomplice pretends to help remove ketchup or mustard that has been 'accidentally' sprayed on them. Another common tactic is slitting handbags in crowded places and snatching mobile phones while they are being used.

Passport thefts are common especially in Buenos Aires and Mendoza. Leave your passport in a hotel safe or security box and keep a photocopy of the details page with you at all times.

Kidnappings and so called 'express kidnappings' occur in Argentina. Victims are normally held while criminals empty their bank accounts with cash cards. Once the ransom is paid the victim is usually quickly released. It is common for thefts to take place when withdrawing cash from ATMs.
64 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
You expect me to take anything written about Argentina by the United Kingdom, a cultural and geopolitical enemy of Argentina objectively?

Get out of here. When you believe Argentina's reports on the UK, I'll return the favoUr.
65 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
LOL you piece of shit you can not stand the truth what a place to visit with so much crime-by the way you sound and cry alot like NOSSY,you don,t have to accept what The UK says but theres a hell of a lot of people that do

GOD BLESS THE GREAT BRITISH SINGER ADELE OSCAR WINNER
66 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
God bless Lionel Messi world's greatest player for the last 6 years in a row. I bet you go to any village in Nepal, Ethiopia, or Borneo and they know who Messi is, I also bet they will die never knowing who Adele is. hohoho
67 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:11 pm Report abuse
Why didn't you mention that ugly piece of shit CARLOS TEVEZ who was sued here recently apparently he did not understand the word POLICE-though you do not like the English language I am pleased that you have obviously learnt it well can you tell us all why that is??? was it to drag you out of The Mendoza gutters????

GOD BLESS DANIEL DAY LEWIS ANOTHER FINE BRITISH WIN.
68 Pugol-H (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
Unfortunatly for the trolls, recognising Argentina’s rights in the dispute, is not the same as recognising Argentina is right in the dispute.

The question is how many African countries support the Islanders rights to self-determination, like Ivory Coast for example.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

@7 _INTROLLREGNVM
UK of GB & NI is the inheritor state of UK of GB, there will simply be no dispute about that on the international stage, whatever Argentina says.

There is no recognised resident population of Antarctica, so no one to referend.

Geographically British territory is closer to the Antarctic than Argentinian, so you lose that one.

The ICJ would also consider the (real) history of the region, which of course Argentina had no part in. You lose that one by a long way.

So in short Argentina doesn’t actually have a case for the Antarctic other than it wants it.

Never going to fly that one.
69 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:17 pm Report abuse
Keep dreaming Pugol-H. Your post doesn't even make any cogent sense.

“Geographically British territory is closer to the Antarctic than Argentinian, so you lose that one.”

Wow, cheap cannibis and keyboards don't mix.

@67

He's still better looking than Shrek.
70 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
@NTROLLREGNVM Just like your botox queen your a loser
71 yankeeboy (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
Whew Toby is angry today! I'm guessing not as many tourists are at the Harvest Festival this year and winter is looking pretty lean.

I wonder how much of the Soy crop was damaged yesterday with the huge hail storm and it's not like any can be spared at this point.

Buy sugar Toby buy sugar
72 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
He sure gets angry quite easily and I don't know why.
73 Pugol-H (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
It’s quite simple really which is closer to the Antarctic circle, S Georgia or Argentine occupied Tierra del Fuego????

Like I said you lose that one, no cannabis necessary. However it may help you get over your disappointment, pop to Uruguay I understand it’s legal there.
74 yankeeboy (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
For a decade the RGs thought everything was fine, everything was going well and within the last 6 months they've been smacked in the face with another economic crisis. Except this time it is going to be worse than last time and nobody has any savings.
75 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:13 pm Report abuse
Except for Crissy ofcourse who as feathered her nest quite well
76 Steve-33-uk (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
'Taking no position': US refuses to back Britain over Falkland Islands sovereignty'
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/usa-refuses-back-britain-over-1731106
77 Shed-time (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
@76 to be fair, expecting the USA to help out any country other than Israel is like expecting a stone to tell you a recipe for chocolate fudge cake.
78 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
Kerry is saying nothing different and we should not have expected it,unfortunately it does make a mockery of American values.
79 briton (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
As she said

We will fight them on the beaches
We will fight them on the sand
We will fight them till the earth freezes over,

And the reply was,

Well you will be fighting them all on ya own,
We support ya, but aint stupid, you fight ya own stupid dream
Bye bye,

Well,
It was just a thought.
.
80 yankeeboy (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
This is much more telling:
His presence in London was “no accident”, said Mr Kerry, adding: “When you think of everything that binds the US and Great Britain together, there is a reason why we call this a special relationship.”
Mr Hague, for his part, said the Anglo-American “partnership” in “diplomacy, intelligence and defense has no equal anywhere in the world”.
81 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
As two close allies we can not always agree on everything, Mr kerry is just stating The American position which as not changed in years what might be interesting is what The Obama administration as to say, if anything after the referendum.
82 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:42 pm Report abuse
I would like to hear him say....“ the people have voiced they opinion and the matter should be closed” But who the hell knows what he will say. I've certainly voiced my opinion to the White House and State over the Falklands.......it may go no whoere but they still get opinion mail.
83 briton (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
The only thing that matter in real time is the knowledge that if the British government went to war,
Would the Americans back us, yes or no?
And the British stance should be made on that outcome.
84 inthegutter (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
#62 _INTROLLREGNVM_ by virtually every indicator that matters the UK is much nicer place than Argentina:

Much lower Gini (income inequality)
Much higher GDP per capita
Higher HDI
Less corruption
Better press freedom
Longer life expectancy
Much lower murder rate
85 Anglotino (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
36 out of those 54 African nations outlaw homosexuality and in Uganda you can be put to death for it.

These countries talk about the rights of others and deny basic human ones.

Congratulations on your new scum-bag friends Argentina. Though considering your new besties are the likes of Iran; Argentineans must've so proud.
86 Shed-time (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
@83 Answer would probably be no again.
87 yankeeboy (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
Where is this illusion that the UK would need assistance from the USA to send Argentina back to the stone ages?
They can do that all by themselves with no help from us.
We would just stand back and watch the humiliation...again 30 yrs later.
This time Argentina should pay reparations with oh let say Patagonia. That may be fair.
88 Anglostino (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:44 pm
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89 Conor J (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
@88
Not stupid, but true and correct.
90 The Cestrian (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
@87

You are correct.

why would say the US support our cause when they know fine well that it is a one sided fight. The US has more important things to worry about like being 2 faced with SA and trying to screw them for trade to reduce their massive deficit.

the support of the worlds poorest continent, rules by corrupt dictators, means absolutely nothing.
91 puerto argentino (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:08 pm Report abuse
Argentina celebrates Africa’s 54 countries support for Malvinas sovereignty
Africa’s fifty four countries joined South America “in recognizing the legitimate sovereignty rights of Argentina over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”, announced the Argentine Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a communiqué in reference to the so called Declaration of Malabo, capital of Equatorial Guinea.

No More Commentssssss!!!!
92 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:21 pm Report abuse
@puerto argentino, Perhaps you should take a look at who some of these new found friends in Africa are of your dear leader queen Crissy and you will find they are as bent and corrupt as she is FACT
93 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
Wonder if Ghana is one of the fifty four?

www.theafricareport.com/news-analysis/argentina-conti...
94 british servant (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:47 pm
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95 José Malvinero (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
Hummm! 94 pirates desperate and ridiculous comments in just a little while.
Poor okupas, the only thing left is the only thing they know do: the gunboat policy, the thugs.
Poor okupas, you are liquidated and their days are numbered.
THE MALVINAS ISLANDS ARE ARGENTINE and everyone knows it.
96 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:00 pm Report abuse
...only there is no such place as the Malvinas Islands retard!
97 Clyde15 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:01 pm Report abuse
#91
Do we care a monkeys' ? NO !

The Trolls are multiplying now. Some of them now have quadruple personalities, however each one is devoid of intellect and can only utter a few incoherent words.
I see Nostril has metamorphosed into something exactly the same as his last nom-de-plume. Will he ever reach the stage of a butterfly - a pleasant beautiful insect ? No, more like a burnet moth, flashy, gaudy, but bitter as hell.
98 andy65 (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:02 pm Report abuse
@José Malvinero Still living in the land of fantasy???? Your Queens Crissys dream is slowly becoming a nightmare Rampant inflation food shortages due to price controls mass strike action by public employees crime ridden streets-what next?? perhaps Queen Crissy will re start the death filights for you all
99 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
It has just been announced by H Timerman Argentine diplomat that 54 other well respected individuals agree that Las Malvinas islands are Argentine:
Adolph Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Nikita Kruschev
Kim Jong Il
Micky Mouse
D Duck..
Etc
100 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:09 pm Report abuse
Liquidated! lovely argentine word, grandpa bring it with him from the reich did he?

Never existed, never will, ah!!! how sad for you, never mind, you'll get over it. Take a century or two, but hey, who cares? We don't.
101 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:15 pm Report abuse
Argentine Dalek:
“Extrapolate” er..“.
”Exfloliate“ er...
”Expropriate“ yajajajaja, that's it ”Expropriate, Expropriate Expropiarat.....er....
102 reality check (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:22 pm Report abuse
I have it! What a dastardly plan. Morphy Richards are going to equip the Rg's so they can invade again and liquidize the islands.
103 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 25th, 2013 - 11:32 pm Report abuse
#60 Troll
You likee Daddy Yankee then. :-)))) or any daddy?

Mendoza, what a dump, the villa miserias are nice though...

Get yourself some mace and steel grilles on your windows and you'll be fine!
104 Islander1 (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 12:04 am Report abuse
91 Puerto Argentinop please look up and read what the official staement said - NOT what your Govt has twisted into the words. Sorry but they are VERY different!
Jose Malvinero - so eveyone recognizes malvinas?

Then please explain to me why our Govt receives official trade documents from three of your neighbours on a regular basis addressed to:

either - Falkland Islands
or Islas Falkland

do tell me - where is the word malvinas in there?
105 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 12:23 am Report abuse
@91 puerto argentinos

“No More Commentssssss!!!!”

Uh, oh!
Puerto Argentino doesn't like hobbitesss
106 briton (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 12:57 am Report abuse
we see the susy bragade are out in force tonight,

keep pushing CFK, you may well get that victory sooner than you think,
but it wont be yours,
107 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 01:58 am Report abuse
I think at the heart of the matter is that Argentina prefers to be friendly to Africa, than to Europe and the USA.

This rubs the poor souls on this board to no end, like an unremoved washing tag from a new t-shirt.

Why would Argentina want anything to do with a continent of immoral people and nations? Look at the Europeans on this board, they have no morals. They are disgrace to the human race. Your welcome for the rhyme.
108 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 02:24 am Report abuse
@107

that is your opinion and you are welcome to it.

this thread is not about you and your musings, though.
109 mastershakejb (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 03:08 am Report abuse
@56 Introll
Argentina doesn't have any fine cheeses. I know, I traveled it extensively. Tigre, I think it was, had an acceptable 36 month parmesan, I think it was, but other than that, the cheese in Argentina is pretty much shit, below even US cheese, certainly nowhere near European (holland, france, italy) cheese, or even a good British cheddar.
I'm a serious foodie, in fact my food obsession is so bad it could be called a disorder, but anyway, the food in Argentina is pretty crappy. They're really only capable of producing a three good things: asado of like colita cuadrille or similar meat cut, a decent chorizo, and some acceptable wine. Unfortunately the acceptable wine can't just be purchased anywhere in Argentina, it can only be found at the vineyards themselves in Mendoza, the rest is exported. The chorizo is decent, but not quite as good as German, nor even as good as Uruguayan. And lastly, Argentina is still importing beef from Uruguay to feed itself, so even its colita cuadrille isn't Argentine. And your lamb is terrible btw.
110 _INTROLLREGNVM_ (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 03:27 am Report abuse
@109

Where did I write “fine argentine cheese”, huh? Go back to school, I know our cheese sucks, except for Queso Por Salud which is delicious.

Everything else is you talking out of your ass. Only a moron like yourself would say pizza in Argentina sucks, gnocchi made in Argentina sucks, that our steak cut sucks, that Bariloche chocolates suck. That you can't find the good wines in Argentina... you seriously need to join the others here and go to a rehab center, this compulsion to slight Argentina even at the expense at dispensing with the truth, with honesty, and even with reality itself is really poisoning you lot slowly but surely. I woudn't be shocked some of you end up with cancer within the next 5 years.

You are pathetic man just like all the others, who keep trying to insist everything in Argentina is worse than somewhere else. The resentment is just over the top.
111 mastershakejb (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 04:02 am Report abuse
Your gnocchi DOES suck. Your steak cuts, as I said, are decent...but how much of them are of Uruguayan origin now? You CAN find good wines in Argentina...but only at the vineyard itself, the rest is exported. Their best wines are kept at the Mendoza vineyards for tasting and direct selling, and for export, they aren't sold around Argentina. Your pizza is mediocre, at best.
I will say though, that the ice cream and the trout in Bariloche is pretty good. Your chocolate DOES suck, compared to Switzerland/Belgium/France, even in Bariloche, still suck.
Everything else that I didn't specifically mention, in your country, sucks.
112 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 04:20 am Report abuse
@110 TTT

See how this reads,
“. you Trolls and haters seriously need to join the others here and go to a rehab center, this compulsion to slight IK/US/FI even at the expense at dispensing with the truth, with honesty, and even with reality itself is really poisoning you lot slowly but surely. I woudn't be shocked some of you end up with cancer within the next 5 years.”

Seems to fit you, doesn't it?? :-)
Your post is all about your hatred, TTT.
It must burn away, inside you.

However, this thread is all about a staged conference in Africa to fake support for Argentina.
It is not about your personal prejudices.
113 Marcos Alejandro (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 04:43 am Report abuse
Don't worry Brits, Pocklington still supports you :-))))

www.pocklingtonpost.co.uk/community/nostalgia/pocklington-mayor-s-falkland-islands-trip-1-3530365
114 mastershakejb (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 05:47 am Report abuse
There are only two countries in Latin America whose food can EXCITE me: Chile and Mexico. The fruit in Chile is EXCEPTIONAL, gives me chills just thinkin about it. The giant Hass avocados, the profusion of fresh raspberries, the BING CHERRIES OMG! The pure berry juice in Chile is to die for. I left Chile about 9ish months ago...but I can't stop thinking about their cherry juice and avocados.
Argentina food is BORRRRRING! and bland.
115 Gordo1 (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 07:38 am Report abuse
@35 At 1.35 pm yesterday I asked if the names of the 54 countries who supported the Declaration of Malabo could be provided. Nothing has appeared in spite of the usual malvinista “crowing”!

I suspect that 1) the Conference was not well attended and 2) that Declaration has no value because of the poor attendance.
116 Shed-time (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 11:48 am Report abuse
I had a nightmare once that I was argentine, but when I woke up, I realised that I have both a moral code and an ethical code and felt much better.
117 Clyde15 (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 12:36 pm Report abuse
#113
We are not worried, we have the islands ! Your lot are the ones having hissy fits and are desperately afraid when the referendum results are revealed. Boo hoo, it's not fair, we wanted them.
118 reality check (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 12:39 pm Report abuse
Like the use of the word “wanted,”

Past tense, just where it and they belong.
119 yankeeboy (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
110. Toby, You must admit the variety of food choices is very limited in Argentina, even more so outside of Buenos Aires.
Almost every menu is EXACTLY THE SAME. Frankly I don't know why restaurants bother printing them.
Grilled, beef pork chicken or sausage, with either puree or fries, then spaghetti, 3-4 sauces. salad lettuce, tomate, cebolla, or carrot and egg, Tarta (sometimes) it gets really boring if you are from somewhere else and are used to choices. Even in BA there is 1 yes 1 indian restaurant, the sushi has weird rice, the chinese food is pretty gross I never found a decent one, but I will diverge from Master and say the pizza is good not NYC good but good.
A little story, one day in BA I was craving Lobster, we must have gone to 5-6 different expensive seafood restaurants, not one of them had Lobster not one! In BA!! It is insane!

Bariloche chocolate is too sweet for Americans and the texture is all wrong.

You don't have really good wine choices, you have Rg wine no imports again they're fine but the same varietals over and over again is boring.

Don't get mad and all defensive you just don't know what you are missing. The world is s very big place and you only know one tiny tiny little place.

Just so you have an idea, www.opentable.com/home.aspx click on NYC, Click on Manhattan, then Cuisine type, Choose French there are over 150 choices in Manhattan alone and OT doesn't even work with all of them!
Now do you understand?
120 mastershakejb (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
Yea, and those chefs in the French restaurants in NYC have dedicated their entire lives to studying French cuisine. And because there's no dollar clamp/import restrictions, they can import real French ingredients cheaply and easily.

Having a homogeneous population, as Argentina does, can sometimes be nice for agreeing on some things, as a population.... but its terrible for eating. There are only a handful of countries I've seen with menus/diets as boring as Argentina/Uruguay/Brazil: Nicaragua, Honduras, and a couple of African countries.
121 manchesterlad (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 03:32 pm Report abuse
Back to the article..... there are 57 or 58 representatives in the group photo, assuming only 2 from each country that makes 29 countries represented from a total of 66 (54 Africa & 12 S.America) ...... Not even a pass mark Timerman !!!

Ah well, back to today´s news from BsAs, teachers strike .... 3 million kids without school, 9 de Julio shutdown .....traffic chaos again, shootings between Tigre football hooligans .... financed by Futbol para Todos, debate for the accord with Iran ......CFK new found ally ...............what a place!!!
122 Shed-time (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 03:46 pm Report abuse
I typically go to france, rather than manhattan for french cuisine.

Just in case anyone wondered.
123 mastershakejb (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
Actually, I might rather go to central california for French cuisine over France ;) . Places like San Fran, Monterrey, Carmel get THE VERY BEST chefs that France has to offer. Men who grew up in France, and then studied cuisine around the world at the finest universities in the field.
San Fran and New York get the best of the best in every field, because it pays the most. DUH! The best French chef in the world can make more money in New York than he can in France.
124 Brit Bob (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
The 'relevant' UN resolutions that they are harping on about no longer apply because Argentina terminated peaceful sovereignty negotiations with the UK under UN resolution 2065 in April 1982 and instead chose to settle its claims to sovereignty by its illegal invasion and its unlawful disregard for UN resolution 502. Remember?

Ban Ki-Moon confirmed on the 12th November 2012 that the UK was not in breach of any 'relevant' UN resolutions. Remember?

The statement is meaningless.

More diplomatic warfare from dear Hector Tin Man.
125 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@122.123

San Fran is great for restaurants, esp. seafood, of course.
The Franciscan by the pier, or
Scoma's in Sausilito are favourites.

The restaurant at the Coppola Winery, north of the city, has fabulous lamb dishes. In fact, many great spots in Napa, not to mention the wines!!

We go a couple of times a year.
126 Shed-time (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
So, let's get this straight ...

- the best French food is in New York, followed by San Francisco.
- the best Spanish food is in New York, followed by San Francisco.
- the best Japanese food is in New York, followed by San Francisco.
- the best Chinese food is in New York, followed by San Francisco.
- the best Thai food is in New York, followed by San Francisco.
- the best Scottish food is in New York, followed by San Francisco.

Wow, I didn't realise that the New York and San Francisco had the best food from around the world. I'll stop eating French food in France now because they all moved to the USA, the home of spray cheese.
127 row82 (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 11:39 pm Report abuse
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128 Ayayay (#) Feb 26th, 2013 - 11:48 pm Report abuse
@123 is right that it's really, really good at least.
(I mean, I anticipate French food will be super wonderful too.)
In California, you can get a lot more of fresh-picked variety in winter. Carrots in rainbow colors for a couple dollars, winter's navel oranges squeezed in front of you for your juice.
129 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 27th, 2013 - 01:08 am Report abuse
In San Francisco, I had the best “Argentine Empanada” I've ever tasted.
130 Gordo1 (#) Feb 27th, 2013 - 03:03 pm Report abuse
I SEE NOBODY HAS YET BEEN ABLE TO PRESENT THE NAMES OF THE 54 AFRICAN COUNTRIES WHICH ARE ALLEGED TO HAVE SIGNED THE MALABO AGREEMENT.
131 Pete Bog (#) Feb 27th, 2013 - 04:24 pm Report abuse
It would be helpful if the countries defined what exactly what Argentina's legitimate rights were with proper referencing of historical records-but the history is too embarrassing as it opposes all of the Argentines false claims on the Falkland Islands-it boils down to the colonialst bullsh1t theory whilst ignoring Argentina's more than obvious, hypocritical wish to be a colonial power.
132 Gordo1 (#) Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:36 am Report abuse
ARE THERE EVEN AS MANY AS 54 AFRICAN COUNTRIES?
133 lsolde (#) Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:31 am Report abuse
@123 mastershakejb &
@125 Troy Tempest,
l once dined in a Basque restaurant in Elko, Nevada.
l'd never had Basque food before & it was absolutely delicious.
Can't remember the name of the restaurant but there can't be too many Basque restaurants in Elko.
134 mastershakejb (#) Feb 28th, 2013 - 01:20 pm Report abuse
@126 Shed-time
No need to get so butthurt bro. And though your comment was stated in sarcasm, its actually pretty correct, yes. The best of every food is mostly found in New York and San Fran. A seemingly ridiculous claim, but think of the ridiculous claims UK used to be able to make 100 years ago when it was the world leader, it had the best seamstresses, the best tailors, the best EVERYTHING, much like USA now has, and much like Shanghai/Shenzhen/Hong Kong/China will have in 50ish or so years. This is how capitalism/globalism works.
That being said, there are occasional exceptions, of a sort. Like Singapore may actually have the best Thai or Chinese food, it could be a tossup between San Fran and Singapore. ;)
135 LEPRecon (#) Feb 28th, 2013 - 01:27 pm Report abuse
@132 - Gordo1

Yes there are exactly 54 countries on the continent of Africa. Many of whom are part of the Commonwealth, and it's doubtful that they'd support Argentina's colonial expansionist claims over the the Islanders.

The news story has been altered by the Argentine propaganda machine, but most of the representatives from the African countries probably haven't got a clue what Argentina is banging on about, and just made some conciliatory noises to shut them up.

Argentina constantly forces this kind of issue upon visiting dignitaries, who, if given a chance to hear both sides of the issue, and look at the evidence, would tell Argentina to do one.

As I've often said to the Malvinista's: “If Argentina's sovereignty claims to the Falklands are so solid, valid and legal, why won't they take them to the International Court of Justice.

In fact, IMO, the very next time Argentina whines about this at the UN, the UN should tell them, ”Take it to the ICJ, we're not interested.”
136 Gordo1 (#) Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
Hoy many countries in Africa?

uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090416073030AAnxu8I

So there are more than 54!
137 LEPRecon (#) Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:04 pm Report abuse
@136 - Gordo1

The answer does depend on whether you count the non-independent territories: so the actual answer can be 54 or 57!
138 Anti-Muppet (#) Mar 05th, 2013 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
lol, yes because Africa is the pinnacle of democracy isn't it

I say, we sue Argentina for the loss of life that there nation caused our men and the expense of war, although they'd never pay.

So we have these islands which are rightfully ours, lets keep them.

The only way 54 African nations would agree with Argentina is if they brought along an Argentine map, that incorrectly states some islands non existant islands called Malvinas. Muppets

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