Thursday, May 23rd 2013 - 07:20 UTC

Beware inflation: CFK announces “political groups” will keep track of prices in shops

Argentine President Cristina Fernández (CFK) indirectly acknowledged that inflation has become a major challenge for her government despite the fact that the official reading in twelve months is 10.6%, even when private estimates indicate 24% and expectations have soared to 34%.

The word inflation is banned from Cristina’s vocabulary but together with corruption are two of the most pressing challenges

On Thursday Cristina Fernandez announced that political and youth groups will be active part of a nationwide campaign labelled, ‘Observe to protect’ which will ‘oversee prices’ from retail shops to supermarkets to look after “people’s savings”. The operation will be virtually permanent, she anticipated.

Members from the opposition criticized the ‘Stalinist’ mob-initiative describing the groups as “presidential street militias”.

Cristina Fernandez said that the ‘observe and protect’ operation will be similar to the spontaneous mobilisation of the people to help when a third of the city of La Plata was flooded and there was an active participation, among others of two Kirchnerite groups, “United and Organized” and “La Campora”, the latter with Maximo Kirchner, the president’s son as leader.

“We all must look after what we have achieved, in the right way, as happened in La Plata. We must take advantage of that potential, that current of energy from social, youth and political organizations”, said Cristina Fernandez.

At the same ceremony in Government House after announcing a series of measures in the Universal Child Allowance program, the Head of State addressed business leaders and said she hoped “this formidable effort made by the Government and society will not lead to an immediate price hike.”

“It’s almost as if prices are raised by Domestic Trade Secretary Guillermo Moreno or Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, but you are the ones who set the prices and an effort is needed,” she said.

“Since you are the most important industries, advertising on mass media, the press always ends ups talking about government and prices instead of you, since you’re the ones giving them money for the ads” Cristina Fernandez chided industry and commerce leaders in a message broadcasted on national television.

“There are no elements determining an increase in prices. Don’t start complaining about labour costs, because we all well know how prices are made up off. You well know that energy, transport and other services in Argentina are highly subsidized, so don’t include them in prices, and don’t tell me that we have lost competitiveness”, pointed out the Argentine president.

Finally Cristina Fernandez recalled that there is a list of 500 products that have stabilized prices, agreed with manufacturers, distributors and retailers, “so please no surprises”.

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1 willi1 (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 08:30 am Report abuse
whenever you believe she cannot come out more crazy, the next day she tops her nonsense, lies and idiotic accusations whith another bullshit.
can the majority of the arg poeple be so stupid not to see that? how corrupt must she and they be to keep them under her skirt?
2 Britworker (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 08:54 am Report abuse
The word inflation is banned from her vocabulary, so if you don't say it, it doesn't exist, just like the Falkland Islanders.
She is utterly insane.
3 Faz (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:21 am Report abuse
So, KFCs Sturmabteilung is going to monitor things. Wonder when they will get uniforms like the Nazi SA? Argentina resemble Nazi Germany more and more each day... Big difference is Rg incompetence and corruption amongst senior Rg politicians. When will Rgs wake up?
4 trenchtoast (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:25 am Report abuse
Informers, motivated by political ideals. A bit like the East German Stasi had.
5 Trunce (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:38 am Report abuse
And for those that deemed non compliant- an Argentine version of Kristallnacht?
6 grimbler (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:58 am Report abuse
I'm just wondering if the Arg polpulace are insane? For any western or aspiring to be western govt. to come out with this sort of belligerent threat to its commercial life is just crazy her govt. can't last to the election in October can it?
7 Biguggy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 10:03 am Report abuse

Can 'they' afford uniforms? Well perhaps just an armband, marked “Price Police”, in Spanish of course.
8 Falkland Islands (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 10:34 am Report abuse
it's a vicious circle, if she keeps prices down in the shops, then they will go out of business, she has less brain than a plank!
9 Welsh Wizard (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 10:52 am Report abuse
Genuinely interested in this idea. So, what happens when one of the political groups see prices which they do think represent fair government value? They have a quiet word with the owner of the shop? What happen if the price isn't reduced? I'm looking at this and starting to wince a little. What happens if any of the political groups get a little over zealous and decide to take things into their own hands? WTF is going on in this county
10 Pirate Love (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 10:57 am Report abuse
“Beware inflation: CFK announces “political groups” will keep track of prices in shops”

really? I would of thought the poverty stricken masses looking for deals on food to feed their family would be more interested on prices at the shops, but hey its all about you Cristina, all about you! Whats the price of your families food basket Cristina whats yours?????
11 Biguggy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:02 am Report abuse

Do you seriously think that she can see that far ahead?
12 Mendoza Canadian (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:05 am Report abuse
Her food basket is provided by the state of course. The Hitler Youth are coming to get you....
13 Iron Man (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:14 am Report abuse
Properly bonkers. Hope she gets another four years.
14 HansNiesund (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:31 am Report abuse
What a shame King Canute didn't have his own political youth militia.
15 CaptainSilver (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:32 am Report abuse
Sieg Hiel Cristina, vee vill ask the questions! Step in line to the cattle truck for a nice flight over the lovely River Plate.
What a shit place she is transforming Rgland into. And brainwashed trolls support it !!! Perhaps they will be offered cushy jobs as concentration camp guards?
16 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:34 am Report abuse
Another desperate move from CFK, What if the owner doesn't want to lower the price?
All these Camporas pieces of shits needs to die.
17 manchesterlad (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:55 am Report abuse
Another excuse to keep the Campora faithful busy.......I guess busing them around the country for every CFK spreech just got too expensive

The reality is that the subsidized items will be the first to go so most people will have to buy a similar unsubsidized product at 50% more

It also makes sense for the store owners to keep limited supplies of the subsidized items in order to sell the other products at higher profit margins ....the government may have to start opening it's own stores to maintain the supply but at least it would give the Campora some real work as store clerks!!!
18 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:11 pm Report abuse
I bet they are being paid in toilet paper.....or pesos....whichever has the largets supply problably pesos
19 grimbler (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:14 pm Report abuse
20 ChrisR (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:17 pm Report abuse
A tribute to come for TMBOA (The Mad Bitch Of Argentina)

What further disgrace to a once proud nation at the turn of the last century can this harriden do FFS?
21 Conqueror (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:20 pm Report abuse
@6 What you've lost track of is that the majority of argies are psychotic imbeciles. There's a closed circle. From the earliest moments of their lives they are dosed with “food” laced with chemicals and hormones. Demonstrably, and provably, these chemicals and hormones result in birth defects, cancers and neurological defects. Fot those that survive, there is the “education system”. As they continue to ingest these government-approved mind-altering poisons, they are subjected to compulsory “re-education” lectures on a weekly basis. Even after the “re-education” is over, the poison continues. Some individuals are more susceptible than others. Thus groups such as La Campora and Quebracho. Research on individuals in these groups show similar characteristics. Fixation, inability to reason, lack of judgement, an inclination toward mindless violence, a propensity toward obeying anyone who claims leadership. Perfect little unthinking robots.
@9 Chaos is in the interests of Kirchnerism. Time to go in and “restore order”. “Eliminate” the “troublemakers”. Or, in other words, kill those who protest, cow the population into obedience.
@16 Could they be “pole dancers”. Sharpened 12 foot pole onto which each Camporista is lowered ass-first. All poles to be heavily greased so that no-one can cheat. Last one to have the pole exit through the top of their skull is the winner!
@17 Why hasn't she thought of ration books?
22 warteiner (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:25 pm Report abuse
This pathetic new agency for narrow minded incest people forgot to mention that the announcement was to INCREASE the Child, pregnancy, etc., allowance nearly 40%!!!

But only whant to troll, that is very sad for a ''news agency''. Spouse is for islander with f*ck up genetics who cannot think for themselfs....
23 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
@22 Why do they need to increase the child allowance by 40% if inflation is as low as the government claims? To make them 40% more dependent on the government?
24 manchesterlad (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
I suggest you repost your comment in Spanish on Pagina 12's news site because here we don't know WTF you're talking about!!!
25 Tobers (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:47 pm Report abuse
22 - Its a bribe for votes and it increases dependency on the state. In the old days people quite rightly used to rely on extended families to spread the burden of child rearing. Life is tough! Why should the 'state' (aka honest hard working tax payers/country's plundered resources) spoon feed people? Shared essential infrastructure sure but a 40% increase in child maintenance?!
26 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 12:53 pm Report abuse
I think it is actually around 35% but it is still a bribe. How on earth can the government afford this when they are broke?
27 Orbit (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:01 pm Report abuse
@26 to answer your rhetorical question ... they print money ... like they did to pay the 24% wage hike announced yesterday. And the printing presses are going to be running white hot until October to pay everybody they promise things to. Its a gem of a model.
28 trenchtoast (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:01 pm Report abuse
Definition of FASCISM

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
29 MaxAue (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:08 pm Report abuse
This is the beginning of the end...
30 briton (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:17 pm Report abuse
As long as her indocrinoughts belive its working,
then its working.

everything else would just be an argie lie, would it
31 Chicureo (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
This happend during the time of Allende as well. We had few items we wanted in the markets and had to buy what we really needed on the black market.
Incredibly stupid, but then again logical for CfK...
32 Simon68 (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:49 pm Report abuse
This is yet another gateway to corruption, the La Campora bullies will be applying “protection” for the shopkeepers ---- “You pay the required amount per month and we wont inform the AFIP that your prices are over the limit!”

By election time we will have a whole new crop of multimillionaires!!!!!!!
33 Zool (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
Just when you thought Argentina couldn't fall any further Cristina goes & creates her own secret police force. Thought Argentina had learned that lesson, Oh well at least the Helicopter hire company's will be happy with the extra booking they will get.
34 axel arg (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
As i said in other oprotunities, this is evident that the histerical rejection that planty of people in this forum feel for c. f. k., doesn't let them have enough intellectual honesty, in order to discuss about something so complacated like politic.
Beyond some of the pathetic headlines published by mercopress, like this one, most it's reports are often very camplete, except for some of them which were too partial. In this report, is explained perfectly what c. f. k. thinks about inflation, in fact she did it in planty of oportunities.
If she really believed that the true inflation in the country, is based on the indexes published by indec, all the increases given by the state would have been based on the indec's estatistics, however all the increases were hightly above it's indexes, and even higher than the statistics published by those so called private analsists. So, accept it or not, this evident that she recognizes the problem. You can agree or not on her decisions, but only an injudicious would say that she doens't recognize the problem.
We all know that the most important is not what politicians say, but what they do, c. f. k. sometimes tells just what is convenient for her, like all the rest of the politicians do, however, the most important aren't their omisions, but their actions.
Anyway, it's understandable and expectable that many of the reactionary people who often publish their comments here, and who just insult without proposing any idea, continue making their usuall too partial analysis, or the tipicall ignorant comparisons.
In relation to mercopress, i don't think it lies, or distorts the facts, like clarin, la nación, and perfil often do. Mercopress's problem is that sometimes it publishes too partial analysis, or pathetic headlines, but beyond this fact, i have always thought that if the corporative press that we have in argentina were like mercopress, we would have a serious anti kirchnerist press.
35 Anbar (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
“”“””Definition of FASCISM

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition“”“”


“political groups” keeping track of basic prices....

only a fully indoctrinated fool (such as Axel) would fall for this open fascism without seriously questioning it.
36 Biguggy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:27 pm Report abuse

Do the RG's actually have their own printing presses for money or is it done outside the country at some respectable mint?
37 Tobers (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:32 pm Report abuse
@Mr Sensitive

We do propose ideas as well as criticize her. The ideas are simple. Dont steal from your country that the state pays you to look after and don't restrict people's liberty. Ideas like that.

CFK is a proven liar, bully and manipulator. Simple

Clarin lies? Ok give me 3 examples of lies. If Clarin etc says CFK is corrupt is that a lie? How is that a lie? She isnt bothering to prove the allegations as slanderous because she cant. Imagine - she could take Clarin to court sue them and achieve a massive victory - and life would apparently be much easier for her . But she doesnt. Why is that?

Axel at least have the courage and integrity to admit that you are pro CFK. A neutral wouldnt give the impression of being so upset by critical comments of her and her gang.
38 reality check (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
The US mint seems to be the answer!
39 Pete Bog (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
Onwards and upwards toward the dictatorships of the 1970's. But is the FAA well enough equipped to dump uncooperative shopkeepers into the River Plate?
40 axel arg (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:41 pm Report abuse
As you can see, i am not wrong when i say in this website there are many reactionary people who just make ignorant comparisons, like ANNBAR in his comment 35, where he recurs to the definiton of fascism, in order to compare it with kirchnerism, beside he called a fool, because i'm critic of the tipicall mediocre comparisons which are posted here everyday.
I would never consider c. f. k's detractors like fascist, in fact, some of their critics are really relevant, but what i have always criticised of some those people, is their hypocresy, and their usuall ignorant comparisons.
41 yankeeboy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
36. The money is printed by a company owned by the Vice President.

Goon squads out in force.

Is there anyone who still thinks this is a democracy?
42 Tobers (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 03:48 pm Report abuse

3 examples please
43 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:07 pm Report abuse
Her army of la campora thugs will not have to do this for very long. As her food price controls moves into the 4th month, the shelves get thinner and thinner. What business in their right moind will buy product x for 10 pesos and be forced to sell it at 8 pesos.

#40 axel grease.....can you not find something new to say or must you say the same in each post? Is that your troll assignment of the week?

on a side bar......hoo rah! for Israel.

Unfortunately, no one of relevance goes of to Argentina's big trading partners....Iran....PLA and Syria
44 axel arg (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
I have said in different oportunities in my comments that i am kirchnerist activist, beside i have never believed in neutrality, i only believe in intellectual honesty. The fact that i support c. f. k's government, doesn't mean that i am not going to recognize the negative aspects of her government, like the denounces of corruption cases, or some wrong decisions taken in the past, because i have intellectual honesty, which is something that many of you don't have, that's why you often post every kind of mediocre and ignorant comparisons, based on too partial analysis.
On the other hand, what liberties is c. f. k. restricting, if it soposes that in argentina there is not freedom of press, how is it posible that you can know about the denounces of corruption cases that involve c.f. k's government?, do you realize how ridiculous what you say is?.
I'll give you some examples of lies or distortions.
For example cristina never said that people must be affraid of her, like clarin transmited last year on it's chanel, actually she refered to a judge who was involved in a denounce of corruption, and it was an ironic comment by her.
The indec never said that in argentina people can eat with 6 pesos everyday, like clarin published, it was actually a too partial information.
Beside, it usually publishes about the denounces of corruption cases that involve c. f. k's government, but never publishes anything which can prejudice the oponent politic parties, because some of them are clarin's politic partners, however they say they do independent journalism.
If you want to read serious press, critic of kirchnerism, i recommend you to read the following website, which analyzes the statements of all the politicians, beside, in the case of pagina12, although it is a pro kichnerist newspaper, it's also very critic of many apsects of c. f. k's govt., because it has enough intellectual honesty.
45 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:26 pm Report abuse
Neighborhoods burning in Stockholm, people being hacked up into sushi in London, massive corruption in France, mass unemployment in Spain, bombs exploding in the USA... but Argentina has worse problems.

46 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
Indeed Argentina does. Good point, TTT. Though I am not laughing at their misfortune.
47 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:34 pm Report abuse
No doubt sarcasm, just like the truth, is not one of your strong suits.
48 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:41 pm Report abuse
TTT, you find the death of Lee Rigby, husband, father and a man who has served his country, attacked by two disaffected, nutcase murderers, laughable? You clearly lack morals and any empathy with humans.
49 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
I only show empathy towards those that show empathy back. Is that so hard to understand?
50 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
TTT, what a ridiculous statement. You either possess morals and empathy or not, reciprocation is not a factor.
51 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
And once again on cue the stupid little moomas boi removes his mouth from teat suckling comes out and posts absolutley nothing to the article and off posts as he always does...

Here we have indiginous Qoms asking for their land it time to kills them tobi?

Longshoremen strike and you can't sell your soy:

Biodiesel crisis and now you come begging to the USA.....the evil empire that you do not need:

despite the USA EPA is requiring a sorghum blend of bio fuels

Beef trade in shambles:

Teachers to strike:

Pesos dropping AGAIN:

Yes from reality.......divert the article and post something insignifcant that no one cares about because you are insigificant.
52 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:49 pm Report abuse

You mean like this?

comment #1:

comment #2: Deserve it they do.

comment #3: This is tragic and I know I should care. But for some reason I don't.

Well, and then just keep reading the comments...

Congratulations on profiting on the deaths of young children to make your political anti-CFK points, you and your crowd. Spare me the homily.


Has anyone died from those “problems”?
53 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
YOU, TTT, either possess morals and empathy or not, reciprocation is not a factor. Own your amusement regarding the murder of Lee Rigby; You wrote it, no one else.

Your attitude is chillingly sociopathic.
54 yankeeboy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 05:28 pm Report abuse
Goon Squads
What is next Ford Falcons outside of “the enemies of the state”

Do these retards see where this is going?
It hasn't been that long since it happened last time

They are very very dumb people
55 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
@54 Um, I think you have to consider that a lot of Argentines do not know what is going on. Seriously. I have a number of groups of Argentines relying on me giving them information because they just cannot get accurate reporting there. A lot are in a flux and don't know what to believe. They can see the inflation and insecurity rising but do not, as a rule, know about the La Campora thug issues until they encounter it personally.

I try hard to give just facts without narrative and let them make of it what they will. They are grateful for that.
56 Redrow (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
@44 axel

My guess is that for most UK posters here Argentina only registers on our radar because it is the country that continues to bully the FIs. Since your President is the bully-in-chief then of course we are going to express our views of her. We can only compare her behaviour with those countries and histories we know. Perhaps because you live in Argentina her behaviour seems normal, but I promise you it is not. It is a very dangerous thing to lose the rule-of-law. Why on earth would you need La Campora to track prices in shops and what threat is implied to business people who will need to put their prices up because of the rampant inflation? You keep defending her while she leads your nation to economic ruin and at the same time politicises your judiciary so that she can then govern as she pleases. In the long-term this weakens Argentina internationally which means it is even less likely to ever get the FIs so ultimately your loss is our gain.
57 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
Why do you worry about me more than sociophatic attitude of your own countrymen?

Then you wonder why things like the horror that befell that guy happen in YOUR country, not mine.
58 yankeeboy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
Random acts of violence and Violence from the state against it's own citizens are two different matters.
Qom ring a bell?
La Campora...paid goon squad
Police AND HIGH GOVT officials in the Int'l drug trade
Police kidnapping robbing citizens ( everyday)

I am so glad to be out of that mess

I hope CFK buys another election and it goes on and on
It is better than a Mexican Telenovela
59 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
@57 Still deflecting? Own your own words.

At least your have reflected and now acknowledge that the murder of Lee Rigby is a horror, rather than something you laughed at earlier.
60 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
Let's see...

US using drones against its own citizens, and now in its own territory.
US in the past dumping pesticide on its own citizens for lab testing.
IRS... paid goon squad
Police and HIGH GOVT officials in arms traffic trade killing hundresds at home and overseas, some police pocketing DRUG bust money
Judges sending innocent children to prison in exchange for government prison system money
Police beating up “darkie” citizens (everyday)

Glad you jumped from the frying pan and into the fire.

And the muslims still don't like you. Get used to the bombings and chopping of people in the middle of your cities. They are coming and you can't stop them.
61 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:27 pm Report abuse
@61 You still can't own your own words.

“And the muslims still don't like you. Get used to the bombings and chopping of people in the middle of your cities. They are coming and you can't stop them.”

Fortunately by far the majority of British people do not lump all muslims in with the actions of a very small number of terrorists operating all over the world.

You have a very immature perspective of complex issues.
62 yankeeboy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:29 pm Report abuse
Toby, stupid stupid boy. Maybe someday you'll be able to leave the slums and see what it its like to live in a free society and not fear for your life while you are sitting at home watching TV.
Until then you can pick random news articles spanning 20 yrs over 50 states and think you are better than the USA.
I know better
and you should too
everyday your country slides further into a dictatorship run by violent nasty thugs and it isn't going to change anytime in the foreseeable future.
As I have said, very soon you'll be looking up to the well run nations of Paraguay and Bolivia and wondering how to strive to be like them.
63 reality check (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
The guys barking!
That the best he can do? “the boogeyman is coming to get you!”
64 yankeeboy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
BTW there were only 35 Construction Permits issued for ALL OF BA last month.

Yeah it is going swimmingly
absolutely top notch

My next trip I am bringing a case of toilet paper to pay for my lodging. I wonder how many weeks I can get in the exchange??

65 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
Holy shit 35? There are towns in MAssachuetts like Old Deerfield with populations of like 5,000 people that have more biulding permits than
MAn....why does christina not finally take the plunge and flush Argentina........I swear Argentina is like that floater that never seems to flush
66 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:03 pm Report abuse

Well if that is true about your treatment of the muslims, that's much better than your treatment of argentines.
67 Biguggy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
I believe if you check you will discover that some RG, conscript POW's claim that they were better treated by their captors than their own officers. I believe that speaks volumes!
68 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
@66 Explain that please? Do you feel persecuted by the British? In what way?
69 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
Not me, at all. And if I was I would not care. I mean the comments on this board. Why do you think I became the great and legendary TTT, who has changed this and other websites forever? I came here with an open mind, criticized my country for things it did to the Falklands, but that was not enough. Not only did I have to perfidiously derogate my country, on everything in every moment (or else I was a CFK “lover”), but even if I did that to placate you intolerant foreigners, you still would have lumped me as a “fool, inferior, greasy, dumb,” argie. Just like you do with Simon and Optimus in spite of them selling their soul for your approval and acclamation.

Since the reasonable route was the road to nowhere with you people, I decided to take the route of Truth. Telling it like it is whether you people like it or not.

The only reason there is fighting here is that you people like talking about our dirty laundry, but get enraged and choleric when others bring your dirty laundry to the fore.
70 reality check (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
Ah, he's a crusader!!!

Bet watch out, the nasty Muslims will get him.
71 yankeeboy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
Blue moving to 9 again
You can only intimate and threaten people for so long
Hmm didn't I say that last week?
72 golfcronie (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:40 pm Report abuse
TTT Please enlighten us on your TRUE thoughts on the Government of ARGENTINA and their policies, I am intrigued.
73 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
I can't enlighten you. You are a foreigner. I do not discuss domestic politics with outsider fiends.
74 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
@ 69 This news site focuses on stories about Argentina. It is aimed at English-speaking people and they are free to express their opinion. If you can't handle it you would be better off ignoring the place altogether because the way you write does nothing to elevate your opinion here.

It is true you think the Falklands should remain free from the rule of Argentina; you have expressed that opinion from the start. What do you want? A medal for being rational on that point?

You seem unable to extricate yourself from the inculcated nationalistic idea that any criticism of any aspect of your government means all the British hate every single Argentine. It simply is not true. You also have a tendency to lump all contributors in one handy category of 'all being against you'. Also not true.

If you keep on posting hyperbolical rants you actually work against the people of Argentina rather than change any opinion in a positive way.
75 Tobers (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:49 pm Report abuse
TTT or his puppet master is a sociopath. You wont get any rationality from him /her/it
76 golfcronie (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:50 pm
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77 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:54 pm Report abuse
And if I don't get any medals for being rational (have I ever ask for any or bragged about my views on the Falklands?), you tossers expect to get my “sympathies” (or medals) for being irrational, cultural supremacist twats who incessantly gasconade your unproven superior culture?

What do you expect from me?
78 Beresford (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
That is very easy: Steal, steal, steal & steal.
79 Troy Tempest (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
@69 Teeny Toy Troll

“...even if I did that to placate you intolerant foreigners, you still would have lumped me as a “fool, inferior, greasy, dumb,” argie. Just like you do with Simon and Optimus in spite of them selling their soul for your approval and acclamation.”

Simon and Optimus appear as objective. You are constantly arguing with us only because you try to defend the perverse and criminal acts of CFK by posting irrelevant links or diverting arguments by blaming our society for your problems, and insulting us.

You will never admit being wrong, or take responsibility for the actions of yourself, your country, or your President.

When backed into a corner, your only Defense is, “ we might do bad things, but others do as well”

Not only is that particularly childish, but YOU as a nation, have control over your actions. It does not make your actions morally right, either.
80 ElaineB (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
@75 Oh, I completely agree and that is why he is fascinating to read; absolutely textbook.
81 Tobers (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
...nor empathy
82 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
Where was your empathy towards the 300,000 dead Iraqis for a concocted war with false dossiers and prevarications?
83 Tobers (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
Me or my country? You think EVERYONE in Britain supported the Iraq invasion?

In this instance I was talking about you not every single Argentine nor Argentine politics.
84 Anglotino (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
“Why do you think I became the great and legendary TTT, who has changed this and other websites forever?”

Well we can delusions of grandeur to the list.

Can't argue for shit, but loves to preen!
85 Beef (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
Of Toby of the little brain. About 80% of my clients are Muslim. About 25% of my friends are Muslim and I visit a variety of Muslim countries every year (mainly Saudi Arabia, Brunei, Malaysia, UAE and Indonesia). I have probably been to about 10-12 Muslim weddings in the past five years. I am a white Brit and enjoy the exceptional hospitality that Islam requires my hosts to show me. Believe me I feel far from hated. You clearly know little about Isllm and the view that the Islamic world has of Britain. Masha'Allah
86 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
Toby, what is so amusing AND immature of you is that you left a number articles here without further activity......after you were slapped down, as you usually are. I would think that when they retrun to posting on topic, you will once again get slapped down, run home to momma and seeking that tata full of comforting milk.
Has the la campora come rifling your messy mendoza yet? Perhaps you can get them to clean up the mines the left mendoza unemployed.
87 Troy Tempest (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 09:57 pm Report abuse

So many unemployed La Campora, why don't THEY work the mines for Mother Argentina and “Evita” Kirchner ??
88 Baxter (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
Mob rule ! Dangerous in any country. The next step , take over Supermarket chains and then , empty shelves ! But , guess what , she admits inflation is a problem .
89 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
They can't Troy, they are the army she has in place to harrass, beat and disparage the citizens of Argentina and make them vote her way.
She admits inflation by handing out 24 to 30% contract raises. And then has her thugs run around browbeating stores from raising rates regardless of what they buy the product it is best just to not buy the product. End result.......bare shelves.
90 Brasileiro (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:26 pm Report abuse
Argentina is a beautiful country. I have many friends in Argentina. Argentina needs change to more integration with us. Brasil loves Bariloche, Mendoza, Neuquen, Rosário and Córdoba. I loves Buenos Aires and La Ricoleta. Argentina is my brother.
91 Troy Tempest (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:37 pm Report abuse

“They can't Troy, they are the army she has in place to harrass, beat and disparage the citizens of Argentina and make them vote her way.”

I know. I was being facetious.
It is textbook Fascism or Communism, the poor, unemployed, disaffected, IDLE, youth are the tools of the Devil.
Resentment, anger, disillusionment - they're looking for an outlet.
92 Captain Poppy (#) May 23rd, 2013 - 11:52 pm Report abuse
The price police are coming to out! Or is the the dollar dogs?

The things that are illegal in Argentina............liberty!
93 commonsparrow (#) May 24th, 2013 - 01:27 am Report abuse
”youth groups will be active part of a nationwide campaign labelled, ‘Observe to protect’
How youth are we talking about. Did'nt some other country try to do this about 80 or so years ago, using youth to observe and protect? The brain of a youth isn't even fully developed to understand about financials. I feel like I'm reading a work of fiction!
94 Ayayay (#) May 24th, 2013 - 04:27 am Report abuse
So, does the average person there..not even realize the gov is printing free pesos? And that the increase in money supply (40% this year) IS the inflation?
95 Troy Tempest (#) May 24th, 2013 - 06:46 am Report abuse
ARS Peso to US$ “Blue Dollar”

currently 8.93/1

Sorry Dany and Trolls
96 Welsh Wizard (#) May 24th, 2013 - 08:56 am Report abuse
@82 TroLLey_to_Truth

THere were over a million who marched in london against this and many others is the country to look upon it with shame.
97 Conqueror (#) May 24th, 2013 - 02:28 pm Report abuse
@22 “This pathetic new agency for narrow minded incest people forgot to mention that the announcement was to INCREASE the Child, pregnancy, etc., allowance nearly 40%!!!” Are you naturally mentally deficient or do you have to practise? How nice of the “government” to increase the allowance by 40%. Do you understand that “governments” have NO money? This is even more true of the argie “government” because argieland is broke! Those silly bits of paper that get passed around aren't “money”, they are tokens. The only “money” a government has is the “money” it takes from the people. So, one way or another, tax increases are on the way. But, at the moment, the argie “government” can't take “money” from the people because most of the people only have tokens. IF you're in argieland, all that she's announced is that she's going to take more of your tokens and give them to someone else!
@34 Only 15 spelling or grammatical errors!
@40 Only 8 spelling or grammatical errors!
@44 Only 18 spelling or grammatical errors!
@45 Indeed it does. Bribery, corruption, criminality, degeneracy, depravity, incompetence, larcenous, mendacity, perversion, psychosis, stupidity, war-mongering, xenophobia. And that's just the “government”!
@47 How would you recognise “truth”?
@49 Yes it is. I can't “show empathy back” to someone who hasn't shown empathy in the first place. You say that you can't show empathy to anyone who hasn't “shown empathy back”. Someone has to show empathy first. As far as I can see, that would have to be you.
@52 You don't get it. WE, quite justifiably, hate argieland. WE didn't invade a tiny, peaceful territory. WE didn't occupy it. WE didn't murder 255 British soldiers and 3 Falklanders. WE don't lie about the facts that show who owns the territory. WE don't make provocative statements whilst whingeing and whining. Every argie that supports such actions is a war criminal. And you want us to be considerate of 41 million war criminals?
98 Pirate Love (#) May 24th, 2013 - 03:25 pm Report abuse
@82 ask was his party, threatening to use weapons of mass destruction on his neighbours, tough titties!
99 Captain Poppy (#) May 24th, 2013 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
#82 ask the Kurds how they feel about dead Iraqi's? Ask the SHi'ites how they feel about the dead Iraqi's.....ask the in your worldly vicarious travels on your PC via the internet, when electricity permits.
Now shut the fuck you and go hme and suckly on your momma's teat, what you do best tobi boi.
While you are at mommas knees......browse the Kurhish genocide at their own president's hand. If you were ever in Iraq.....I can guarantee you as bad as it is, they still feel it is better and worth the price.
100 Troy Tempest (#) May 24th, 2013 - 04:50 pm Report abuse

Your Diversion has been answered @83,96,98.

In short, over a million Conscientiously Objected by protesting in the UK against sending UK troops.

Contrast that to the million + Argentinians who celebrated in the streets of BA when you surprise attacked a small civilian community on the Falklands, taking their homes, and imprisoning women and children at gunpoint.

Now your government sends out thugs to intimidate and control the general population!!

You are morally bereft.
101 Chicureo (#) May 25th, 2013 - 04:08 am Report abuse
A very good article about CFK's paradise ...

...By the way #69 TROLL, kiss my arse...
102 Sergio Vega (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
Bipolar CFK is re-creating the Chilean JAP's under the worst Gvt. Chile have had in the 70's.....Its were the Juntas de Abastecimeinto y Precios (Supply & Prices Meetings), a political control of micro economy in the country by followers of the disasrous president Allende, wich leads with other measures to a successful black market supplied by the same Gvt. officials that controlled the warehouses....In the other hand , it were used to control the political vote trhough the food provision.....All the shops that denied to join the JAP list weren´t supplied and people who denied to join JAP can´t bought because they hadn´t the JAP oficial notepad with the food assigned to their families for the week.....Any similitude to Cuba...?? Poor Argentines, they don´t deserve that kind of humilliation as the Chilean didn´t deserve before.....

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