Wednesday, May 29th 2013 - 20:37 UTC

Copahue volcano eruption imminent

After the Copahue volcano on the Neuquén provincial Andean border with Chile began spewing smoke due to an increase in seismic activity, a red alert was issued by Chilean authorities ordering the full evacuation of an estimated 3,000 people.

Sheep walk with the Copahue volcano spewing ashes in the background in Neuquen province ^(Photo AFP)

The 2,965m (nearly 10,000ft) volcano - which sits in the Andes cordillera - has so far only spewed gas, but thousands of minor earth tremors have been registered in the area.

Chilean Interior and Security Minister Andrés Chadwick said the increased activity could lead to an eruption and officials would evacuate 2,240 people, or 460 families, within a 25-kilometre radius.

“This evacuation is obligatory; it’s not voluntary,” Chadwick told reporters. Stoll not everybody is willing to leave.

“No. I do not want to leave because we have chickens and it isn't easy to leave them and go to a shelter,” resident Florinda Lipiman told the news agency Reuters.

In neighbouring Argentina the authorities had first declared a “yellow alert” but later revised it to the highest level. They have now ordered the evacuation of at least 600 people from the town of Caviahue to the neighbouring city of Loncopue where the crisis committee said than an eruption “can take place at any moment now”

Fears run deep as Copahue’s new eruptive cycle began in July 1992 when the crater lake explosions ejected rock fragments, white dust, large amounts of green and yellow liquid sulphur. In July 2000 Copahue registered its largest eruption in 100 years. Eruption of lapilli, ash, and bombs occurred at the volcano. Bombs up to 13 cm in diameter were ejected more than 8 km from the summit, and ash fell 100 km away.

As recently as December 22 2012 an eruption occurred when ash reached an altitude of 31,000 ft and extended 110 km southeast of the volcano. Satellite images showed sulphur dioxide plume from Copahue eruption reached Tristan da Cunha in the south Atlantic Ocean 2700 km ENE of the volcano on 24th December 2012


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1 yankeeboy (#) May 29th, 2013 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
Just in time to kill the ski season....again.

This could be the final straw for the small hotels who are just recovering from the last explosion.

2 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 29th, 2013 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
Where does the next bridge collapse this week? New York? California? Texas?
3 yankeeboy (#) May 29th, 2013 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
I think having whole cities covered in rock and ash, 1000s of people being out of work, most small business declaring bankruptcy is much more interesting to talk about rather than 2 accidents where nobody even got hurt.
This could destroy the travel industry once and for all.
Its not like there are going to be any foreign investors while the Ks are still ruling.
4 ElaineB (#) May 29th, 2013 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
I watched a BBC report on this the other evening. The biggest concern was for the farmers. Remember last time when the ash covered the grazing land? I hope they get some assistance from the Argentine government.
5 yankeeboy (#) May 29th, 2013 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
Last time this happened I was trapped in BA for days trying to get out but the planes wouldn't take off with all of the ash.
6 Stevie (#) May 29th, 2013 - 11:09 pm Report abuse
Having you trapped in ones country is indeed a scary thought...
7 yankeeboy (#) May 29th, 2013 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
I got someone bumped off the plane so I could get out. It was an Rg so nobody cared.
8 Stevie (#) May 29th, 2013 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
You thought of it, but then you realized you are nothing but a bald little man after all...
But I'm sure the whole movie played in your head.

9 yankeeboy (#) May 30th, 2013 - 12:08 am Report abuse
I don't dream of BA, it is a foul city getting more dangerous and dirty every day.
I was at lunch today warning someone not to go because of the imminent collapse. I told him there was a good chance he'd get stuck due to strikes, no fuel etc. It is always something.
10 Stevie (#) May 30th, 2013 - 12:49 am Report abuse
Sounds like you had a great and happy day. Most of all happy.

Why are you so upset with life?
11 Welsh Wizard (#) May 30th, 2013 - 10:15 am Report abuse
Can anyone tell me if this Volcano is in Chile or Argentina? The wife says it is in Argentina but Google says Chile.
12 ElaineB (#) May 30th, 2013 - 10:21 am Report abuse
It is in Chile but because of the prevailing winds, the ash lands in Argentina.
13 Welsh Wizard (#) May 30th, 2013 - 10:51 am Report abuse
Why do a number of Agrentineans get upset when it is reported that it is in Chile? Just trying to work out whether this is a case of interesting interpretation of national borders?
14 yankeeboy (#) May 30th, 2013 - 10:59 am Report abuse
Arg Gov't is worried they will run out of wheat before the next harvest comes in.
I will laugh and laugh

A cobbler with no shoes comes to mind

How can one country have so many fools?
15 ElaineB (#) May 30th, 2013 - 11:07 am Report abuse
Do they? It is right on the border, so I guess the mountain sits in both countries but I believe the crater is on the Chilean side. Google satellite map certainly shows it on the Chilean side.
16 warteiner (#) May 30th, 2013 - 11:52 am Report abuse
@14: You are living in Argentina dude, why hidding it? You already said it unintentionally a couple of times... Nothing more pathetic than a immigrant insulting the country he lives in.
17 yankeeboy (#) May 30th, 2013 - 12:01 pm Report abuse
16. Why would you find my posts insulting. They only speak the truth.

CFK is the South American Mugabe and you must give her credit it is very hard to completely destroy a country in only a decade. It took Mugabe much longer.
18 Simon68 (#) May 30th, 2013 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
15 ElaineB (#)
May 30th, 2013 - 11:07 am

Dear Elaine and Welsh Wizard,

Actually the crater is on the Argentine side of the border, which goes through the highest point and is slightly to the west of the crater itself.

For some reason my compatriots feel proud of having volcanoes in our land, personally I wish we just had mountains. The bloody volanoes are a damned nuissance!!!!!!
19 ElaineB (#) May 30th, 2013 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
@18 Ah! Damn that google satellite map! : ).
20 jakesnake (#) May 30th, 2013 - 02:49 pm Report abuse
That's interesting, I could have sworn TVN said the volcano is actually in Chile.
21 ElaineB (#) May 30th, 2013 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
Confusing isn't it. I am not stating one way or the other but it is true that the news sites and volcano watch sites all seem to refer to it as in Chile. Most say it is on the border with 9 craters, the centre being in Chile. I am not sure it matter too much to anyone outside of the two countries. It is true that because of prevailing winds it is Argentina that gets the fallout from the ash.
22 Think (#) May 30th, 2013 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
(11) Welsh Wizard
You should listen more to your sweet Argie missus.......
Simon68 at (18) is absolutely right......
The Copahue is divided by the border and the principal crater is on the Argentinean side........... At least until today.

Anyhow; a little detail as this Volcano position, demostrates the complete ignorance and/or indifference of the Anglo Press and public about all things Latinoamerican.....
23 Condorito (#) May 30th, 2013 - 03:33 pm Report abuse
20 Jake
About 80% of the volcano is in Chile. The Argie “slice” up to the highest point contains the current crater.
24 Welsh Wizard (#) May 30th, 2013 - 03:57 pm Report abuse

Hi Think, Hope you're well. Were watching the news and it came up as Chile and of course (being from Neuquen) the boss got over excited and wanted to launch a complaint to the UN about Chile stealing Argentina's volcano. She then went on to mention that there is form here as you'll sometimes find Chilean tourists in Bariloche with maps of the area stating quite clearly that Bariloche is part of.....Chile. This makes her very upset
25 ElaineB (#) May 30th, 2013 - 04:07 pm Report abuse
Was Bariloche ever part of Chile? I know Mendoza was at one time.
26 Think (#) May 30th, 2013 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
(24) Welsh Wizard

Wouldn't you be if some Sassenachs showed you a map stating quite clearly that Snowdonia is part of England?

My regards to the Boss.....
Tell her that this Chubutense undertandsmore than completelyla frustración de tan abnegada dama......;-)
27 Welsh Wizard (#) May 30th, 2013 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
The Chileans seem to think so. This obviously “demostrates the complete ignorance and/or indifference of the [Chilean] Press and public about all things Latinoamerican.....”
28 Condorito (#) May 30th, 2013 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
27 WW
Possibly the reason that the press is referring to it as a Chilean volcano is because Chilean authorities raised the alert over the increased activity (and most of the volcano is in Chile).

25 Elaine
No, Bariloche was never in Chile and I have never seen a Chilean map showing it to be. The only place we get cartographically creative is on the Antarctic peninsula.

26 Think
The word “Sassenach” can only really be used by a “Tuchter” and would be lost on a Sheep Shagger.
29 Welsh Wizard (#) May 30th, 2013 - 04:25 pm Report abuse

They would never try that on us. They'd be too scared that we'd challenge them to a game of rugby to settle it...
30 ElaineB (#) May 30th, 2013 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
@29 LOL! You just beat us in the Six Nations and we just beat you in the World Rankings. It would be a good match!!
31 Clyde15 (#) May 30th, 2013 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
The original meaning of “Sassenach”was the name given by the Highland Gaels to the Lowland Scots. It then changed its meaning to a lowlander from England when the Highlanders were forced off their lands into the lowlands of central Scotland.. As far as I know it was never applied to the Welsh.
”Tuchter is actually spelled teuchter.
Nothing to do with this subject but a reply to trolley on a previous post.;
32 Think (#) May 30th, 2013 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
(31) Clyde15

As always with you....... Close but not close enough......
33 Conqueror (#) May 30th, 2013 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
@2 “In neighbouring Argentina the authorities had first declared a “yellow alert” Seems about right.
@6,8,10 Desperation. Slugpuppies don't have courage. Look at the neighbour's shit-heap. Don't look at my shit heap. Be reasonable. Eastern South America is a shit heap. Because of the slugs that live there. Especially the treacherous, ass-licking, brown-nosing occupants of Uruguay.
@22 Don't get things wrong. It isn't ”ignorance”, it's indifference. So huge areas of argieland will be devastated, argies will die. So what?
@32 The important thing is for argies to do what they are best at. Dying!
34 Stevie (#) May 30th, 2013 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
Quite an abortion your mother missed out on, conq...

What was done to you is called abuse of authority and explains just about everything.
But you should know that you xenophoby has no impact whatsoever and in the end we both know that you too are a bald litle old man who never really managed to accomplish anything in life that makes the smile to this day, just like yanqui.
I'm sorry to speak to you like this, but it's the only language you understand.
The only way you can feel a bigger man is to making everybody around you smaller.
But hey, that's a problem time will handle, and it matters little how much it upsets you.
35 Think (#) May 30th, 2013 - 09:02 pm Report abuse
A little Argentinean story to lighten our spirits in this “volcanic” times……..

Plaza de Mayo. 25/05/2013; 4 years old Agustín Haraut wants to see Cristina in “real life”, not on the telly…..

Plaza de Mayo, 29/05 2013, 4 years old Agustín Haraut sees Cristina in real life, not on the telly….

Ain’t this cuuuuuute?
36 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 30th, 2013 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
If I were British (or European), I wouldn't get too giddy about volcanoes “gone mad”. Let's remind the poor souls that if a volcano on this planet really did go a little overboard, at best it would be 1816 all over again (and ask the poor euros how that went for their countries), at worst another Mt. Toba bottleneck, and believe me, Europeans are in the tightest area of the bottle.

37 ManRod (#) May 30th, 2013 - 10:41 pm Report abuse
Elaine, there is a small truth about Bariloche and it's ties to Chile, as it was a town founded by chilean sided settlers. Though it has never been officially recognized as a chilean territory. That's was wiki says:

“Nahuel Huapi lake was known to Spaniards since the times of the Conquest of Chile. In the summer of 1552–1553, the Governor of Chile Pedro de Valdivia sent Francisco de Villagra to explore the area east of the Andes at the latitudes of the city of Valdivia. Francisco de Villagra crossed the Andes trough Mamuil Malal Pass and headed then south until reaching Limay River in the vicinity of Nahuel Huapi Lake.
In 1670 Jesuit father Nicolás Mascardi, established in Chiloé Archipelago, entered the area trough Reloncaví Estuary and Todos los Santos Lake to found a mission in the Nahuel Huapi Lake that lasted until 1673.[1] A new mission at the shores of Nahuel Huapi Lake was established in 1703 this time counting with financial backing from Potosí thanks to orders from the viceroy of Peru.[1] Historians disagree if the mission belonged to the jurisdiction of Valdivia or Chiloé.
Despite having stronger connections to Chile than the distant city of Buenos Aires during most of the 19th century the explorations of Francisco Moreno and the campaigns of the Conquest of the Desert bought the area into the claims of the Argentine government which saw it as the natural expansion of the Viedma colony and the Andes as the natural frontier to Chile. In the 1881 border treaty between Chile and Argentina the Nahuel Huapi area was recognised as Argentine.”
38 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 30th, 2013 - 11:18 pm Report abuse
These Euro fools make fun of this volcano lets remember that a very minor Eruption of an icelandic “volcano” (more like a little vent), basically brought all of Europe and the UK to its knees!

Wait till Yellowstone kicks off. Bye bye USA and Europe.

Argentina will go on no problems.
39 Clyde15 (#) May 31st, 2013 - 09:37 am Report abuse
As usual, getting it wrong

Unlike you, I don't use wikipedia but go to Glasgow University's source of Gaelic studies !!!!! I would think that they are more reliable plus the fact I had relatives who were gaelic speakers.
Did you actually read carefully what I wrote ?
I said that the Scots never, to my knowledge, called the Welsh Sassenachs. Neither did they ever call the Irish this.
40 Think (#) May 31st, 2013 - 11:04 am Report abuse
(39) Clyde15

Any half witted British Turnip knows perfectly what it means when a Jock calls a Limey a Sassenach…..

Any half witted British Turnip knows perfectly what it means when a Paddy calls a Limey a Sasanach…..

Any half witted British Turnip knows perfectly what it means when a Taffy calls a Limey a Sais…..

Any half witted British Turnip knows perfectly what it means when a Cornish Taff calls a Limey a Sows…..

What’s the use of you trying to “Explain” to us the bloody obvious ???
That no Jock calls any Taffy or Paddy Sassenachs ???
41 Clyde15 (#) May 31st, 2013 - 11:44 am Report abuse
What the hell are you on about ? As usual, you go off at a tangent. Read my post AGAIN !!!! I was explaining how the word had changed its original meaning when it came into parlance in lowland Scotland. It is used as a pejorative by some Scots but infrequently. Just as the term Jock can sound condescending in some circles. It depends on who says it and how it is said. The terms Paddy and Taffy again are rarely used in my area - or even Glasgow.
The expression for the catholic Irish from the Republic is “Mick”

I have never heard any Irishman or Welshman call an Englishman a sassenach. What part of the world do you inhabit.?
You use the name “Think”? - maybe you should try it sometime.
42 Think (#) May 31st, 2013 - 12:05 pm Report abuse

Jocks, Taffys, Paddys, even Micks........
English the lot of them...
43 yankeeboy (#) May 31st, 2013 - 12:05 pm Report abuse reporting very little potable water in BA and the SOuth Suburbs today...
how nice

They say it may come back around noon
Noon which day I wonder?

The lack of maintenance is really beginning to show methinks
Rut ro
44 Condorito (#) May 31st, 2013 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
Patagonian Sweeds...implanted the lot of them.
45 Think (#) May 31st, 2013 - 05:08 pm Report abuse
Implanted and symbiotically integrated with the Southern Mapu.
46 Condorito (#) May 31st, 2013 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
45 Werrken Think,
Me thinks your symbiotic integration is with the Puel Mapu, not the Willi (southern) Mapu surely...

Further integration required.

Lonko Condor
Elqui Mapu
47 Think (#) May 31st, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
(46) Condorito

No further integration needed......
100% MapuChé
48 Condorito (#) May 31st, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
“MapuChé” very good.
49 yankeeboy (#) May 31st, 2013 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
Between the winds in Mendoza, the Volcano and flooding in BA ALL IN 1 WEEK
It is clear that the USA is controlling the weather to undermine the K regime.

They're a 3 week cold snap away from utter and absolute chaos.
50 Think (#) Jun 01st, 2013 - 10:36 pm Report abuse
Turnip at (49)

Somebody ought to tell the Turnips controlling the weather at the Perntagon inWatchington that Oklajoma is not in Argentina.
51 yankeeboy (#) Jun 02nd, 2013 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
In about a month the temperature should drop enough to have frequent and long blackouts in BA.
That should be fun to watch
Maybe oh maybe they'll get snow
That would make me happy.

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