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Chile/Argentina row: Lan Chile evicted from Buenos Aires metropolitan terminal
Chilean president Sebastián Piñera has instructed Foreign minister Alfredo Moreno to immediately contact Argentine authorities following the decision by the government of President Cristina Fernandez ordering Lan Chile to move out from the metropolitan airport of Aeroparque in Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesLAN should withdraw from Argentina, make them all unemployed and let Aerolineas pick up all the empty routes so they can lose even more U$.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does at least 1 major company a week leave Argentina now?
Is it just me or does the Argentine Government appear completely and totally schizo atm...?
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, even more so than usual...
No it's not just you
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly the lunatics are running the asylum
Another day at the office for Aerocampora!
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the same day the botox hag was trying to kiss and make up with the business community in Rio Gallegos.
LAN is a profitable airline. Aerolineas loses two million dollar per day.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I once sat next to a former Argentine pilot on a flight from Santiago to Lima. He explained in great detail why Aerolineas is such a disaster. The pilots work around 1/4 of the hours worked by other airlines and this overstaffing extends throughout the company, That is before La Campors steals money for their coffers.
Reading this article, with the details about AEROLINAS ARGENTINAS, ORSNA and INTERCARGO, I feel like I've stumbled into Bedlam.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't it be nice to know more of the particulars of the new agreement with Chevron. Once the venture gets up and running and begins to turn a profit the government will likely come to the conclusion that it was unfairly taken advantage of by the behemoth hegemonic vultures. There will have to be a “ajuste de cuentas” to put an end to the ceaseless exploitation and yada yada yada. How tiresome.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is A corrupt country run by ex guerrillas Montoneros Videla failled to kill all of them and know here is the result !
Aug 21st, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Agree, LAN finally withdraw and is the best thing that can do. With these corrupts running the country there is no room to sign new contracts or anything like it. More than 3000 workers will pay the price. Obviously LATAM will retaliate in Chile and Brasil.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren't there some major events coming to Brazil very soon? :-)
Aug 21st, 2013 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Won't that be a busy time for visitors by air? Surely, Brazil will give preference to their own airline now.
LATAM can withdraw from Argentina, and overfly Paraguay between Chile and Brazil.
What does Mercosur think of this Protectionism?
Nice picture of Aeroparque!
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the upper right one can even see “Casa Think” and me ol' childhood playgrounds......
While I don't particularly enjoy or even agree with this measure, ultimately I have to give the benefit of the doubt to the argentine side over the foreign side.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Foreigner investors are getting scared away and Think is talking about a playground and Nostril's is unsure who to believe.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder it takes a financial crisis to concentrate an Argentine's mind.
Well in Argentina the government used to give free one-way helicopter trips over the River Plate, even if you disagreed with them.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0If all flights are run by the government irlines, I fear that more than a few might stop short of the advertised destination.
So how is the plan to offer flights to the Falklands coming on? Piñera is at least not having to choose between keeping flights in Argentina and flights to the Falklands.
You cannot invest in Argentina any more, but you can still make donations to La Cámpora and friends.
@ TTT
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“While I don't particularly enjoy or even agree with this measure, ultimately I have to give the benefit of the doubt to the argentine side over the foreign side.”
This is perhaps the saddest Argentine post i have ever read on this forum. You realise your country is in the wrong and going down the tubes but can't bring yourself to say or do anything to make it better.
So the Kirchner youth now control all international ingress and EGRESS, or am I missing something?
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0On a practical level, is this really meant to occur within 10 days? Personal interest here, I have a flight booked from Santiago to AEP (on LAN of course) and hope that it is not going to arrive at Ezeiza...
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chile and Brazil have to retaliate. No AR flights should be able to land in either Chile or Brazil from AEP until it is sorted.
So much for the much vaunted LATAM solidarity. Do I sense an unraveling of the supposed structure of friendship and cooperation in S.A. or was it ever there in the first place.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0What happened to the much publicised Latin American unity?
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Latin American Unity” between leftish ”governments... but never with serious, responsible and treaty-respecting states.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Long live the Falklands!
@15 Redrow
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting point you make. I didn't see the connection this poem until you said that:
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
_____________________
Someone who doesn't speak out when they know something is not right has an extremely bad historical precedents.
21 Anglotino (#)
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aug 22nd, 2013 - 06:01 am
I have shamelessly nicked this post.
Toby Big Nostrils write: “ultimately I have to give the benefit of the doubt to the argentine side over the foreign side.”
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, right, 'Recht oder Unrecht, mein Vaterland” as the good old Nazis said.
@22 Furry-Fat-Feck
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are not my own words, but those of pastor Martin Niemöller.
Good words.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well CFK and the Campora want a domestic airline monopoly. This is not surprising, in fact they seem to be moving in a very predictable way towards government control over economic activity. Unfortunately the big losers will be the Argentine public, too bad for them. As for LAN it's been impossible to get their profits out of there lately so I guess it's time to call it a day. They can return when someone else is running the place, even though I wouldn't want my money invested there NO matter who was president. Their planes will easily be absorbed
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0servicing other Latin American capitals, there's plenty of them not serviced right now. At least they will be able to redeem their earnings . Also investors will take note and inflows to Argentina will continue to decrease, better for us more serious types as we'll get bigger slices of the ever decreasing FDI pie.
Besides CFK doesn't really care since she said today that Argentina's economy is more solid than Canada's or Australia's.
Shouldn't be a real problem for LAN/LATAM. In fact, I find it hard to believe that there are argies with enough money to afford airline tickets. But a look at a proper map, i.e. not an argie one, reveals that there are few problems with routing. For example, the route to the Falkland Islands from Chile simply involves taking a route south of the continent. LAN/LATAM has sufficient aircraft with enough range for such a route. To the north, a route across Bolivia and Paraguay leads to Brazil. I doubt Bolivia would want to upset Chile, Peru, Paraguay and Brazil. Even if it did, LAN/LATAM could simply go on to Peru and then cross into Brazil. LAN/LATAM could even consider a once-a-month flight to Uruguay. Just cross argieland off the list of “destinations”. And think seriously about whether argie passengers should be allowed on LAN/LATAM aircraft. And don't permit Aerolineas Argentinas to land in Chile!
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@21 they are the Communists, in all but name, and they are coming for everything that they can get.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27. Do let AA 'planes land in Chile, those hedge funds might want to sell them for scrap.
#12 ...speaking with all the authority of a C grade burger flipper.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 012 The Truth PaTroll (#)
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:33 am
Tobias, you said: “... While I don't particularly enjoy or even agree with this measure, ultimately I have to give the benefit of the doubt to the argentine side over the foreign side.”
Lan Argentina is an Argentine company, paying taxes in Argentina and employing around 3.000 Argentines, so to who you are giving the benefit of the doubt?????????????
I do feel a little sorry for them floundering the way they are. I mean having to watch on hopelessly while little Shile mops up most of the continent's airlines and eats up their domestic market must hurt those fragile Argie egos some. ... but the course of action they have undertaken will only make their problems worse.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0As The Chilean perspective @26 points out, the losers will be the Argie public (and tourists), while the damage to LAN will be minimal.
So LAN puts $5mill into the joint, have a contract through 2023 and CFK's thieving fascist brownshirts who are running Latams “competitor” into the ground want it all. Make deals with Argentina, be prepared to play the sucker.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are the people in Argentina so docile how can they take this abuse for sure they talk a lot and they do nothing paraguayan's do not talk but they act they got their contry back from the lefties bastards.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LAN executives must have the patience of saints, they are constantly being ferked from pillar to post. My guess is something will be arranged (probably involving yet more money, dollars US) and they will remain there.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Bitter And Twisted Old Twat Of Chew Butt's paradise:
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoLy9T7Jys
@26 The Chilean perspective
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Besides CFK doesn't really care since she said today that Argentina's economy is more solid than Canada's or Australia's.”
Huh! Really?
LOL
Lan Argentina of course being the only competent reliable trustworthy
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0airline in Argentina anyway - no wonder the Campora mob want them out!
Yes Chile will be wringing their fingers but that it the price they pay for having such a soft wet naive supine foreign policy towards Arg for so many years - it started with the gas deal!
@33 Cornelius
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0MagnusMaster's posts offer some interesting insights on the issues you raise.
Real question, you guys? Are there other airliat leave Argentina if LATAM pull out? i guess United only canceled one flight...And Ezezia still has non-gov airline visits?
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To me this looks like a gradual ok, fast closing of the borders.
@26 The Chilean perspective
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Besides CFK doesn't really care since she said today that Argentina's economy is more solid than Canada's or Australia's.”
She might want to visit Australia!!!-They look a lot more sorted than Argentina, are supplying China-but without China controlling them.
Well more evidence to suggest it will benefit Argentina's opponents/competitors if CFK stays in power.
STUPID CUNTS!
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are now saying they only want the hangar, they do not need to stop flying!
WHAT THE FUCK!!!
“they only want the hangar” despite signing contracts that they would want it till 2023? Same as “they only want more money”, 18 million on top for intercargo for the ground services, despite having a contract till 2014 and having payed all before (32 millions) ?
Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The more time passes, the more I think it's really endemic in Argentina to be honourless and thugs. The density of such acts is astonishingly high, so I am fearing that it is really a idionsincracy of the whole nation, while few weeks ago I only blamed it to the corrupt governments. Why do people keep voting them and do not push them from their “golden throne” ?
I've been reading more comments on Argentine papers and it seems that they are split on this dishonest manoeuvre by the Argentine authorities.
Aug 24th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I for one rather like this move by CFK and her son, I only hope that it doesn't hurt them too much politically. The most important thing from a Chilean self interest perspective is the continuation of the steady downward spiral that the Argentine economy and institutions are on. Hopefully it wont lead to an implosion, just the weakening and eventual relegation to Venezuela like standards. This would be enough to ensure the survival of our model who would come under extreme pressure if the populist/ peronist model showed any kind of success. I know this sounds selfish and perhaps a little paranoid but Chile is full of leftists who would destroy all that has been built in a heart beat if given the chance. This is why having a neighbour state tittering on the abyss, and going from crisis to crisis is necessary.
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