Friday, August 23rd 2013 - 23:12 UTC

Falklands’ oil companies banned 20 years from operating in Argentina by Cristina Fernandez

Four London AIM listed oil companies carrying out exploration work in Falkland Islands waters have been barred from operating in Argentina. The measure affects Borders & Southern Petroleum, Desire Petroleum, Argos Resources and Falkland Oil and Gas.

Desire’s Ocean Guardian was the first rig to arrive in the Falklands in 2010 for the current exploration round

All four are prohibited from working in Argentina for 20 years due to their unauthorized and clandestine exploration activity “in areas near the Malvinas Islands” the Argentine government said in a statement posted Friday on its Web site.

The decision which includes four resolutions (456/2013; 457/2013/ 458/2013 and 459/2013 from the Energy Secretary) states the four companies violated Argentine law governing oil exploration and production by carrying out activities in that offshore sector without the government's permission.

Argentine authorities said the oil firms were operating under an “illegitimate license to explore for oil and gas in areas near the Malvinas that was granted by the illegitimate government that controls those Islands.”

The oil companies were notified of their situation in March 2012, according to the Argentine government, based on the country’s Law 17.319 which regulates hydrocarbons exploration and exploitation.

Buenos Aires informed them at the time of its firm intention to take all legal and administrative action at its disposal to “defend its rights” and in May 2012, Argentina's Energy Secretariat declared the activities of these companies in waters near the Malvinas to be “illegal and clandestine.”

Consequently the Energy Secretariat has declared illegal and clandestine these activities undertaken by the British companies in ‘our continental shelf’, and in accordance with Law 26.659 which habilitates sanctions from 5 to 20 years of prohibition to operate in Argentina when undertaking such activities without the corresponding authorization. All of which notwithstanding of criminal sanctions that might result, concludes the release in the government’s web site.

Argentina claims sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas and other South Atlantic islands, and based on a 1965 United Nations resolution demands negotiations with London to discuss and resolve the dispute through dialogue. However London has refused to discuss the sovereignty issue since the Islanders, according to the UN chart have the right to self determination and to decide on their future.

Last March a referendum on the issue was held in the Falklands and 98% of Islanders (with a 92% turnout) said they wanted to remain a British Overseas Territory.

The government of President Cristina Fernandez has become particularly aggressive and continues to try and blockade Falklands’ trade and communications with greater intensity since 2010, when the current round of oil and gas exploration started off-shore the Islands.
 

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1 mollymauk (#) Aug 23rd, 2013 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
Think Christina needs a new dictionary !! Clandestine - “characterized by, done in, or executed with secrecy or concealment, especially for purposes of subversion or deception”.
I don't think there has been anything that could remotely be called clandestine about the oil exploration in the Falkland waters - it has all been very well reported and documented.
Interestingly, the biggest fuss from across the waters was when they protested (incorrectly) that the rig had strayed into Argentine waters by a couple of miles - which by implication, suggested that most of its program was carried out in NON-Argentinian waters. At least we agree on something............
2 Troneas (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:21 am Report abuse
@1. in spanish, whilst it may refer to something “secret or concealed”, it also has a second meaning:

“Que se efectúa sin los requisitos exigidos por una disposición legislativa” - Source: RAE (Real Academia Española).

Translation: “That which is carried out without the requirements demanded by a legislative provision”.
3 Britninja (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:49 am Report abuse
Something that isn't lost in translation is the fact that the Argentine government gets more pathetic/amusing by the day.
4 El capitano (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 01:31 am Report abuse
Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...Lol.....22:30 hrs here in BC Canada...just heading to my bunk with a good book and must say in a great mood....Just have to read these insane edicts dished out by that crazy assed ol bitch in B/A...I mean..cmon guys you gotta laugh as one cant make this shit up...lol...!!
5 Gordo1 (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 01:52 am Report abuse
I am sure that la Kretina is wetting her pants with excitement with the thought that she might, one day, expropriate the assets of these companies just as she did to Repsol. What a numbskull!
6 golfcronie (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:15 am Report abuse
She has it all wrong again. Let the UK oil companies work in Argentina for a couple of years and then when well established nationolise them, you know it makes sense.
7 agent999 (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:16 am Report abuse
After all there are just too many companies willing to invest in Argentina's oil
8 Escoses Doido (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:30 am Report abuse
Clandestine?

There was at least one semi that did a couple of spuds there in the mid 90's. (one of the 'Dolphin Drilling' rigs)
It was a pretty 'tight hole' affair, but the guys I knew who were onboard her confirmed the wells were not 'dusters'.

That was never made public as far as I can remember...
9 Escoses Doido (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:52 am Report abuse
As far as I can remember it was the 'Bedford' that was there.

Oddly enough I see another 'Dolphin' rig in the news this morning (I spent a lot of time on her in the mid 90's) - another Super Puma has ditched beside Sumburgh head.
10 Room101 (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:26 am Report abuse
CFK won't be around for “20 years”.
11 Pirate Love (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:36 am Report abuse
plenty more fish in the sea,
however in twenty years time we will all be looking back and reminiscing how an evil plastic witch once ruled a long forgotten archaic,broke tin pot country formerly known as Argentina, having been annexed by a thriving nation of Falklanders! Thank you KFC, your the best!
12 Boovis (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:36 am Report abuse
So, companies whose primary operations are based in the flaklands are banned from argentina? Oh, no...terrible... let's ban them from the moon as well, and ban them from jumping pan-dimensional spaces to other worlds too, anything else they wouldn't do. Retarded harriden.
13 Pirate Love (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:42 am Report abuse
economic interference?? isn't that a breach by The Argentine govt of the UN Charter yet again! she does like to dig herself a hole.
14 agent999 (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:50 am Report abuse
What UN charter or international law has deemed “the illegitimate government that controls those Islands” ?
15 grimbler (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:08 am Report abuse
This is piss poor! only 20 years! disgraceful! at least one millennium! far too soft these Argies!
16 txiki (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:12 am Report abuse
At least that means these companies are safe from having any investments in Argentina expropriated for a period of twenty years - one of the reasons oil companies are keeping clear of there at the moment,
17 brasherboot (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:13 am Report abuse
20 years?

That's exactly the same as the time it will take Argentina to get 'back' the Falklands. (in the world according to Timmerman).

I bet the oil companies are terrified.
18 Pirate Love (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:13 am Report abuse
@14 none! because there are no “illegitimate government that controls those Islands” only a democratically elected government through a free and fair process.
19 Conqueror (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:53 am Report abuse
This must be the long-awaited “legal action”. Hello, Borders & Southern Petroleum, Desire Petroleum, Argos Resources and Falkland Oil and Gas, were you planning any activities in argieland in the near future? No? Doesn't affect you then, does it?
20 RedBaron (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 06:26 am Report abuse
There is something that doesn't make sense in CFKs statement. The Argies proclaim that the Falklands ARE already Argy territory (and are included within the jurisdiction of the Patagonian province (or some such nonsense), so they are effectively already operating within Argentina..........she can't ban what is already happening!
This is the sort of self-created contradiction that makes a mockery of the current Argy regime, to the point where no-one can take the seriously.
21 Mr Ed (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 06:31 am Report abuse
20 year ban from being suckered into operating in Argentina and then getting nationalised/expropriated/robbed?

Could you make that 50 years, just in case some knob takes over in future?
22 darragh (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 06:47 am Report abuse
@20 RedBaron

Spot on - as often said on here, 'you couldn't make it up'!
23 GALlamosa (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 08:03 am Report abuse
Disasterous. Wonder how much their share prices dropped ??????

Stupid woman.....sorry dumb I think is the in word.
24 Pete Bog (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 08:21 am Report abuse
What a relief for those companies knowing they aren't going to be nationalised by YPF.

Despite huge reserves in Argentina the oil companies don't seem to be forming a long queue to invest there at the moment.

And that's the legal action? That's not going to stop the oil companies from ceasing their operations in the Falklands.
25 Chicureo (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 08:21 am Report abuse
I have little doubt that these companies are at least partially owned by the large oil companies, such as Shell, Exxon, BP....
I find it amusing...
26 ChrisR (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 09:14 am Report abuse
We have all been waiting for the threatened legal action and they come up with this?

And, in two years when TMBOA is dead or out on her ear and a new government take charge then it will all count for nothing.

Mind you ANY oil company who works in Argentina deserves what it WILL get, because these cretins just cannot stop themselves shitting on anybody who tries to help them.
27 Faz (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 09:14 am Report abuse
If anything, this removes any threat of any of these companies ever being stolen by the Argies, should make their share prices go up!

Gollum, failed foreign minister, where is that legal action?

“Gollum ssss I wants it preciousssss, I'll sue them” Smeagol - “no we shouldn't, nasty British own those Islands, can't go to the ICJ”
28 nerosaxo (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 09:23 am Report abuse
Funeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

In 20 years Argieland willbe back to donkey power. No need for Oil.
29 GFace (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 09:56 am Report abuse
Ya Know... I think the Falklands can pretty much live with that.
30 Be serious (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 10:28 am Report abuse
She's talking straight out of her wizards sleeve.
31 Lord Ton (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 11:46 am Report abuse
Excluded for 20 years? Wow! Perhaps they'll appeal and ask for 40 !
32 Nostros (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:00 pm Report abuse
Wait until the oil starts to flow and the Falklands becomes a very very wealthy micro nation, money can sort most things out, I'm sure other South American nations will be more than willing to help us get around the Argentine problem. Chile certainly will help us out, they care little for the Junta anyway.
33 Escoses Doido (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:14 pm Report abuse
@30 - LMAO!

Or her 'clowns pocket'.....
34 golfcronie (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:19 pm Report abuse
The only company that has found commercial quantities of oil in the FALKLANDS is Rockhopper Oil and no mention of them in the ban. Only BOR, DES, FOGL and ARG. Why not Rockhopper? Isn't Brazil on the same Continental shelf as Argentina?
35 mikey48 (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 01:06 pm Report abuse
As the japanese would say “AAHH SO WE HAVE A MAD WOMAN OF ARGENTINA,SHOT HERSELF IN FOOT.” Very silly and done herself no good at all,on her way out,and will have a proper president soon that amsure.
36 slattzzz (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
lucky bastards that's all I can say @35 man with bum in oven shit hot.
@30 wizards sleeve quality.....................well actually probably not lol
37 golfcronie (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
Chinese phrase: Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.
38 Brit Bob (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 02:30 pm Report abuse
In February 2010 Argentina threatened to take international action against British and Falkland oil companies exploring for oil in their mythical Malvinas. This is all they could manage after 3 1/2 years.
39 Britishbulldog (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:04 pm Report abuse
I bet they are really miffed about the little plastic scumbag banning them (not) Argentina's loss someones gain in that part of the world. I bet she is strutting her stuff saying that will teach em
40 mikey48 (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
Seems as this presidente of the country of argentinais cutting her face in half.Does not realise that the oil companies already in argentina will pull out and move to brasil/uruguay or elswhere.So argentina will lose all oil revenues in taxes.Also when oil is found in the falklands then argentina will lose all possible revenues and the dire financial state what argentina is now in will get worse.SILLY WOMAN.
41 GFace (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
@20, Oh RedRedredredred... go big or go home! :-) If this is all happening on Argentine territory then CFK is truly in the sweetest biggest plushiest comfiest and PINKEST catbird seat EVER even outclassing the fainting couch Betty Draper bought on Mad Men!

She has a legislature behind her on this drooling as she rings the Malvinas bell, she has the ability to propose and execute law and the world agrees with her on the Islands. Forget banning oil companies. Go for the glory.

If this is Argentine territory, I don't see why they just don't press charges against every person on the Islands for illegally doing SOMETHING from Breathing to a real law in Argentine proper. Not paying taxes to Buenos Aires. Having dollars without permission. Watching films in English. Eating their Nationalistic Colonialist Full Princess Diana Memorial English Breakfasts of Hope on commemorative plates celebrating the british “recapturing” of Las Precious Malvinas from the bravest little Junta in the while wide world, hell bust them for ANYTHING six things before eating that breakfast (and given the amount of calories and fat in one mouthful, for god sake HURRY! Post humous trials are just not as fun and some pansy will cry hard-case over having type-2 diabetes). Come on, pass a law and DO it! If they claim sovereignty and the WHOLE WORLD is behind them (and not just to laugh at them behind their backs) they're gonna be able to reel in some serious pounds (or even a pence) of flesh for justice for every Argentine since the conquest of the desert.
42 José Malvinero (#) Aug 24th, 2013 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
Surprised by the Argentine government lightness: 20-year ban operate in Argentina to British oil companies!. The logical is to ban in all Argentine territory throughout the duration of the usurpation, no?
With respect to the legal and administrative measures against them, they forgot the most important of all: military measures. A good torpedo on a single platform for exploration and exploitation, and end his presence forever. So expensive!

“However London has refused to discuss the sovereignty issue since the Islanders, according to the UN chart have the right to self determination and to decide on their future.”:
No. The Malvinas Argentinas are on the list of the UNITED NATIONS ORGANIZATION of territories around the world to DECOLONIZE.

”Last March a referendum on the issue was held in the Falklands and 98% of Islanders (with a 92% turnout) said they wanted to remain a British Overseas Territory.”:
Go to the shit!
43 agent999 (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:55 am Report abuse
@42.
Even if they were still a colony, which they are not, decolonize does not mean give to Argentina.
44 Escoses Doido (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 03:38 am Report abuse
@agent999:
Good point, I think that needed reiterating.
45 golfcronie (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:06 am Report abuse
@42
“A good torpedo on a single platform........” Now I know you are MAD.
1) How would they launch this torpedo ( no submarine in the Arg navy dare submerge, chances are they would not surface.
2) You were taught a lesson in 1982
3) If it wasn't for the USA asking the UK to desist from attacking Argentinian infrastructure ( ie your ports, airfields, oil refineries, blocking the entrance to the River Plate ) you would probably be part of the UK administration.
So TALK to the FALKLANDERS without an agenda.
46 Pete Bog (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:49 am Report abuse
@42 Jose
“No. The Malvinas Argentinas are on the list of the UNITED NATIONS ORGANIZATION of territories around the world to DECOLONIZE.”

And the mandate of the c24 is to assist 'colonies' with INDEPENDENCE not for them to become COLONIES of countries such as Argentina.
Decolonisation=SELF-DETERMINATION not RE-COLONISATION by another IMPERIALIST (like Argentina).

“The logical is to ban in all Argentine territory throughout the duration of the usurpation, no?”

Suit yourself. The Argentines can't get oil out of the ground by themselves-they need foreigners to do it.

If British oil companies came to Argentina they would be nationalised and their assets seized, (like Spain's Repsol. and Spain are supposed to be friends with Argentina!) so Argentina is a commercial waste of time.

“A good torpedo on a single platform for exploration and exploitation, and end his presence forever. So expensive!”

Are you going to launch this from a rubber dingy or are you going to swim there?

Do your submarines still work?

Ours do.

“said they wanted to remain a British Overseas Territory.”:”

I'm not surprised-Argentina could not organise a party in a brewery-why would the Islanders want to be Argentine?-They don't want poverty and corruption.

“Go to the shit”=Become Argentinian

No. Jose, the Islanders are not stupid enough to wish to be Argentine.
47 slattzzz (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 11:53 am Report abuse
@42 a good torpedo and rgenweener in the same sentence LMFAO
48 The Truth PaTroll (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 11:56 am Report abuse
Ok, admittedly Jose Malvinero is woolgathering with some of his statements, which makes him sound like a sane “Conqueror”.

What is true however is that the British posters here severely overestimate themselves. Argentina has not had any relations with the UK in decades, and alas the show goes on.

I don't think the two countries will ever have any positive relations again, there is nothing we need from the UK. Also, the UK made a choice (and I believe a good one): protect their people and interests in the Falklands over Argentina.

For the UK government to also want relations with Argentina is a bit to much, and rather childish. You can't have it all in life, however you stood by you principals to the islanders and that should be enough.
49 slattzzz (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 12:20 pm Report abuse
@48 apart from the international aid we just sent you, we want nothing to do with you and the sooner we stop sending you money the better, principles ?rgenweener don't know what principles are. And you call us childish, I reiterate we don't need you , don't want you and can defiantly live without you, unfortunately the reserve can't be said
50 The Truth PaTroll (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 12:40 pm Report abuse
No UK aid, sorry, keep dreaming.

The reverse can be said. You are totally dispensible. Just live with it and move on.
51 LEPRecon (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:04 pm Report abuse
@50 Tobias

The biggest difference between the UK and Argentina is that the UK doesn't hold grudges, and Argentina can't let go, and that will be your downfall.

But never mind, Tobias, when the economy has failed (again) and Argentina defaults (again - but this time on it's own people and not the 'foreigners'), and no one will lend your country a penny, at least you can huddle in your freezing power free hovel, tightening your belt due to lack of food, in the knowledge that Argentina doesn't need anyone.

The REAL truth Tobias, is that in this modern age, every country needs other countries to survive. It's called the global economy.

This isn't anything new, global trade has been around for thousands of years.

Argentina is the only one that suffers by not interacting in an honest and trustworthy fashion with the rest of the world. After all, there is NOTHING that Argentina produces that we (the UK) can't get somewhere else, probably cheaper and of better quality.

It is you that overestimates Argentina's importance, but you are being overtaken by your fellow South American countries where once you were the leaders in exports, now you have to import more and more.

It's time to wake up Tobias and FACE the truth. Hiding behind your nationalist pride won't improve the economy, won't improve living standards for Argentine people, won't improve the security of the people of Argentina, and won't improve education or the infrastructure of Argentina.

No one can help Argentina, except Argentina itself. However, you spend all of your time crying and moaning and blaming anyone and everyone else for your self-created problems. You believe that the world owes you a living and that life isn't fair.

Well guess what, Tobias, LIFE ISN'T FAIR. As the old saying goes: when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. In other words stop moaning about your plight and do something positive about it. In Argentina you have lemons, and all you do is cry and moan about them.
52 The Truth PaTroll (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:10 pm Report abuse
I never said the UK needs Argentina, where did I say that please.

I do not want my country to be part of a fixed, corrupt, failed, financial system. I certainly don't want to have relations with countries (i.e. UK, and many others), who see us as inferiors and thus would never in good faith negotiate with us. If you think you are in any form superior than the other side, naturally you will never actually “discuss” anything with them as equals, you will try to overtly or with guile and subterfuge disenfranchise and filch.

We pass, thank you.
53 slattzzz (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
@50 we will see
54 Conor J (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:43 pm Report abuse
@53
I disagree with your comments about corruption and the whole inferiority thing, but I agree with you completely regarding the relations between the two countries, aside from trade deals and the odd economic and educational exchange I think that our relations have pretty much stalled in a ditch so to speak. Relations could improve if the Argentine government changed its tune but for now we are stuck with the old cold shoulder routine.
55 Conqueror (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
@42 Did you read the bit about what the law says? Of course not. Why would you? Law has never been an argie strong point. Bribes is what it's about, right? You want a torpedo? How about we drop 30 cruise missiles in the middle of BA? Remember how it works? You start it. We finish it. IF there's a next time, I will have no problem urging my government to use a full-scale nuclear strike. We may finish you! Permanently.
@48 Jose has never been sane. Much the same as you really. Perhaps when you get to be 14 or 15 years old. Although it's doubtful! Please understand that I now try to restrain myself. My usual reaction to you lot is to sail down to BA with a couple of containers. One filled with AK-47s and the other with ammunition. And then go walkabout. Selector on “Automatic” and finger on the trigger. And in suitable circumstances, a bayonet in an orifice.
@50 What do you mean “no UK aid”? Guess where the EU gets its money, kiddikins!
@52 Your “country” is already part of a fixed, corrupt, failed, financial system. It's called the “Kirchnerite” system. Don't worry about it. As your inflation and your debts increase and your “money” gets lost, the time will come. You can't see this so you are undoubtedly inferior. Despite the many attempts to educate you, you continue to be brainless. Why would we “discuss” anything with you when you insist that you are always right? Does your stupidity extend to comparing argieland's inflation rate with that of the UK and ignoring the FACT that the UK's is 90% LESS. Perhaps when you're older. Although I am inclined to recommend to my government that the best course is to make argieland starve. I like the idea of argies starving. Perhaps you'll eat each other. Not soon enough, unfortunately.
56 Conor J (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 02:39 pm Report abuse
@55
Lay off Conq, you're making a scene.
57 golfcronie (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 03:03 pm Report abuse
@52
“ I don't want my country to be part of a fixed , corrupt , failed financial system”
You have your head so far up your a***e you can't see that your quote above describes Argentina to a tee. You do not need anyones help with your economy pray where sre you going to get US$ PRINT THEM I SUPPOSE
58 Ernie4001 (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
Is the best insurance against expropiation that any enterprise would be dreaming with. Sorry, for the lot of decent argentines (there are many who live this government as a nightmare) but for any company the best way to protect their invesment is to stay away from la campora ruled country.
59 The Truth PaTroll (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
Argentina will not join the international community. Certainly not to be ruled by it and lose all sovereignty to your decadent nations.
60 Conor J (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
@59
Oh and of course, Argentina is a shining example of glory and non-coruption.
61 golfcronie (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
@59
Thank goodness for that , we cannot afford to keep you. We don't want to rule you ,what on earth made you think that? ( you dear chap have a persecution complex ) we want you to stand up to your responsibities, like paying the money that you defaulted on. If you joined the international community you would bleed it dry in 5 years, anyway we don't want you.
62 LEPRecon (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:54 pm Report abuse
And again we see Tobias hanging onto the same old nationalistic tune.

Hey! WAKE UP TOBIAS!

Argentina wanted to be a part of the club. It signed treaties, knowing full well what the rules were, but decided that the 'rules' weren't for them.

Argentina is a classic example of wanting to eat it's cake and have it.

You can't have it both ways, Tobias. You either promise to follow the same rules as EVERYBODY ELSE, or you don't get to play.

The only one to suffer is Argentina, and suffer Argentina will.

Like I said, when it's all over, and you're begging in the streets for money, at least you'll have your pride.

But remember that pride is one of the seven deadly sins, and 'PRIDE' always comes before a fall.

There is nothing wrong with having pride in your country, but when that pride blinds you to everything that is going on, and any criticism by an Argentine citizen is considered 'disloyal' or 'treasonous' then you know things are badly wrong.

You Tobias, bury your head in the sand and hope beyond hope that somehow everything will turn out okay.

But the thing is, Tobias, that apathy, none involvement, and a refusal to face the blatantly obvious doesn't solve problems, it just creates more. Problems need to be worked. They need innovation, hard work, sacrifice and a willingness to face them head on.

That is why Argentina will never become the country it could be. That is why Argentina will never become a world power.

Until you, and those Argentines like you, pull your heads up out of the sand, roll up your sleeves and do something constructive to help Argentina, then you will always be a 'never-was' country, unable to even make the grade as a 'has-been'.

But never mind, the UK will continue to prosper. The Falkland Islands will continue to prosper. And Argentina will continue to fail, and cry, and blame everyone else because IT'S NOT FAIR.
63 golfcronie (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 05:07 pm Report abuse
@62
I concur with you statement, but they still have their heads in the sand, they need a strong leader but there does not appear to be a credible opposition. I lived there for two years under a military junta and it was stable as the population would not confront the military. Unfortunately they need military dictatorship to control the population. I can see within a year there will be strikes and riots as happened before. Also lots of Cartoneros will emerge.
64 Anbar (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 06:50 pm Report abuse
“”“”I do not want my country to be part of a fixed, corrupt, failed, financial system. “”“”

said the Argentine... lolololololol
65 The Truth PaTroll (#) Aug 25th, 2013 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
I guess the above is remotely analogous to Americans considering on boycotting the Olympics in Russia because they are corrupt and dirty.

(when the USA has likely never one anything without drugs, they are the biggest cheaters evidenced by the number of American athletes stripped of medals or titles, and then Salt Lake City... Atlanta... oops).
66 downunder (#) Aug 26th, 2013 - 03:11 am Report abuse
“Falklands’ oil companies banned 20 years from operating in Argentina by Cristina Fernandez”

Strikes me that she is admitting that the Falklands are NOT part of Argentina, is his a massive policy backflip or has she just put her foot in her mouth (again).
67 LEPRecon (#) Aug 26th, 2013 - 05:31 am Report abuse
@65 Tobias

DEFLECT! DEFLECT!

I HAVE NO ARGUMENT SO DEFLECT!

Getting pathetically desperate now, Tobias.
68 Briton (#) Aug 26th, 2013 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
20 years,
40 years
100 years
What sad for Argentina must be brilliant for the Falkland’s,

Still,
20 years it is then,
And she can watch in awe as all that oil goes north past stupid argie decisions,
The Falkland’s gets rich, and she cries in desperate envy.
Ha ha .
.
69 Monkeymagic (#) Aug 27th, 2013 - 03:16 am Report abuse
You notice that she only banned four of the nine companies that have been part of the driling in the Falklands.

Where are Rockhopper, Premier, Noble, EDF Edison and BHP Billiton?

They have all been part of the “clandestine” drilling?

The four tiny companies are banned....but she craps her pants when it comes to the bigger boys.;
70 Be serious (#) Aug 27th, 2013 - 06:06 am Report abuse
Wonder if she has shares in Rockhopper?
71 golfcronie (#) Aug 27th, 2013 - 01:08 pm Report abuse
I was told by an Argentinian that she was a major shareholder. He could be lying though, seems to be an Argentinian trait.

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