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Malvinas controversy: Uruguay Senator sidesteps and swears full allegiance to Argentina

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Uruguayan Senator and presidential hopeful Constanza Moreira has clarified some of the concepts attributed to her relative to the Malvinas Islands and alleged Uruguayan sovereignty rights, which received extensive coverage in the Montevideo media and had repercussions in Argentina. Read full article

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  • golfcronie

    Bugger, someone has had a word in her ear that The FALKLANDS are already spoken for. Shame really.

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    “It wasn't me, guv”

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Why don't these so called lawmakers think before they speak, they must know if you aspire to be a leader of a country you must act with diplomacy. But all Latam countries seem to do it.

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Well it's all academic as the Falklands will
    Be in Argentine hands within 20 years apparently

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Apparently
    Constanza Moreiras
    Phone went as red hot as her soon to be burning red hair,
    As, they say if CFK could have come down that line, Constanza Moreiras
    Would now be hanging by her locks.lol

    Still,
    As others have said, its already settled and the argie claim is no good, and the islands will remain British..

    .

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    There you go. In full retreat from the Argentinians already. Someone should tell them that you never get peace from a bully by backing down.

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    How crappy they are, in one hand the Falklands belong to Uruguay and then they say that they support Argentinas claim, WTF!

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I can't express how good a laugh these two articles have given me.

    Cheers for that!

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Haha, excuse me Uruguay, the Falkland Islands are Argentina's pretension, you go and get your own. They are like kids with Pokemon cards - pathetic!

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    This shows once again the Spanish sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands.
    And the british brain wash.

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @10
    The Spanish are welcome to the Malvinas Islands wherever they are, but the Falklands are British and always will be. Tell me, what do you propose to do about it, fight us for them again?

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    @ So now the Spain owns the islands? I guess that means Argentina owns Gibralter. But like Britworker said if the British dont own them then go take them back....

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    It seems that the Uruguayan brothers left the LSD for a time.
    With respect to the okupas and those fools who, very quiet from their homes in Britain say here, that keep clear that we can discuss everything from us, but the pirates out! either with Argentines or Uruguayans.

    Sep 19th, 2013 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    @11 and 12 No. It means that the islands were never British.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    @ 14 Better check and see what flag flies over them first before making that statement. And again if they belong to someone else then go get them back. What are you people waiting for?.......

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    14 deludo 1833

    you mean “they were never Argentine”.

    UP claimed them for two months while Britain and Spain already had a claim and the British 'claim' lasted another 180 years with nary an “Argy”, Spaniard, or anyone else from the 'Plate Republics' in sight.

    Get lost.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Veterans will present a book on Falklands - The publication is called “Pepin the Penguin, the Monster and the Falkland Islands.”
    The Veterans Association of the book presented tomorrow Malvinas “Pepin the Penguin, the Monster and the Falkland Islands”. The event will be held at 10:30, on school premises Urquiza, located in Guemes and Zuviría.
    The agency reported that “This book has the distinction of being the first and only children's book in the country that addresses the issue of our Malvinas Islands without any political bias.”
    They also clarified that the publication will be both for small and for adults. Wanted it to be read to children between 3 and 8 years.
    After the presentation, there will be reading to 200 children in kindergarten and first grade school Urquiza...'
    http://www.eltribuno.info/salta/325000-Veteranos-de-guerra-presentaran-un-libro-sobre-Malvinas.note.aspx

    'THE MARATHON “FALKLAND HEART OF MY COUNTRY” COULD IN JUMP - The town of Cafayate was appointed to be one of the venues for the marathon that seeks to bring together sign and ask Britain dialogue over the Falkland Islands...'
    http://www.eltribuno.inf

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    If the Falkland/Malvinas are the heart of Argentina,the rest of the country must be (as I always suspected)ALL WET!

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Malvinese

    The history prior to 1811 is pretty clear.

    There is little doubt that Britain had a small community on West Falkland in the the 1760-1770s and that France and Spain had a larger community on East Falkland from 1760s-1811.

    WE ALL AGREE THAT SPAIN HAD SOME HISTORIC RIGHT.

    What neither you, Uruguay or Britain can agree is whether that Spanish claim died in 1811 when they voluntarily left East Falkland, was passed to Uruguay (where the Spanish went from the islands) or passed to Argentina (by some method unprescibed).

    There is no treaty, no documentation, no people to self-determine..ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE that the historic Spanish claim to East Falkland passed to Argentina... NONE ZIP NADA ZERO.

    There is a tiny thread of evidence that it passed to Uruguay..which makes the Uruguayan claim stronger than Argentinas.

    However, it would appear that as Spain left, as Britain had, leaving only a plaque to justify their historic rights, the islands were “fair game” in 1811 as they were vacated and empty.

    So, between 1811-1833 did Argentina do enough to justify sovereignty.

    Jewitt..don't be ridiculous.

    Vernet...Had Vernet actually succeeded in developing a thriving community, had he been appointed UP Governor, had he maintained that role, had he stayed on the islands and not perminantly left in 1831, had the Lexington raid not happened, had Argentina not tried to replace Vernet with Mestevier, had Vernet not appointed the British matthew Brisbane as his deputy and on-site leader, had Britain actually evicted anyone from the Vernet community...maybe Argentina would have a case...of course none of it happened.

    So, your claim is still based on the arrival of the Sarandi in Nov 1832, its murderous, mutinous, rapist crew, and its eviction 60 days later...a weaker, more pathetic, more “Argentine” case it would be hard to imagine. Your claim is pathetic.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    The Falkland Islands are and always have been British. This is a matter of fact and whilst Argylanders might want to talk about it, there isn't anything to talk about.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    10 Malvinense 1833
    Of the Spanish based claims, Uruguay certainly has a stronger claim than Argentina.

    The problem for both Argentina and Uruguay is that the British claim supersedes the spurious Spanish claim, as well as the even more spurious
    French claim it was based upon.

    Neither Argentina nor Uruguay have any legitimate, legal or historical, claim to any British territory in the South Atlantic, or Antarctic.

    You have to hand it to those Uruguayans, fully supporting Argentina’s claim against the British, whilst busily preparing their own claim against Argentina.

    They would fight to the last drop of Argentinian blood, to defend the islands from the Pirates.

    Solidarity S. American style, a bit like Chevron and Ecuador really.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @13 malignant1833
    So, the islands were never british, not even british before Argentina was invented in around 1815, never british when we first discovered and set foot on them, never british when spain removed Port Egmont in 1770 and re-instated them a little while letter... man you're eyes are closed to the truth and your statement is non-sequitur. Bonehead.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    The falklands belong to the islanders they dont want to be argies would probably go for independce if that wouldnt leave to being invaded by a bunch of cowardly facist groupies and all round cowards.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Correct!
    The islands were never British, nor will they ever be.
    Imposters by force.

    Fine enough, time is on our side.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    @17
    I've just researched the the story of penguin, which they claim “addresses the issue of our Malvinas Islands without any political bias.” ...
    'It uses an animal protagonist named ”Pepin” which is stripped of his home in the Falkland Islands and from this situation through dialogue creates an alliance of animals, some animals initially are typical of the region and then summed animals from other parts of the world. All animals act together to achieve the necessary strength and peacefully try to recover our Malvinas Islands...'
    http://www.elreflector.com.ar/2012/11/17/pipino-el-pinguino-el-monstruo-y-las-islas-malvinas-2/

    The Monster in the story has an eye patch and is wearing what looks like a British flag!

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @25
    It's at the appropriate Malvinista intellectual level anyway.

    I wonder has anybody sent Ban Ki Moon a copy yet? The Pope?

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @24 Stevie,
    Time is one thing, you haven't got Bucko.
    You don't have OUR lslands either.
    And you never will.
    @10 Malvinese,
    You are sadly mistaken my friend, these lslands are British, not Argentine.
    Whoever taught you that they were yours?
    They've never been yours & they never will.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @24
    Where do you get this idea that time is on your side?

    The longer the UK exercises sovereignity, the more the islanders exercise their rights, the weaker and more shameful your claim of colonial conquistador inheritance becomes.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @10 It shows what? In fact, it shows the diseased amoeba that sucks your blood from the otherwise empty space between ears. Argies don't need a brain wash. No brains.
    @13 Just watch out for those submarines off your coast! Boom, boom!
    @14 Really? Then we'll just have to use those SLBMs we have, and you don't, to “eliminate” any other “claimants”, won't we? We may be “criticised”, but that will be afterwards. Watch the skies!
    @21 The point that you omitted to make was that the British and the Falkland Islanders will defend and retain the Falkland Islands, and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, to the very last drop of argie and Uruguayan blood. As well as any other handy latino blood. Or guts. Or body parts.
    @24 Talking to yourself? It's “normal” to identify who you think you're talking to. Or anyone you might think is listening. Oh, I get it. You're a wanker. As for time being on “your” side, want to compare the length of your history compared to yours? Want to consider the number of “states” that have ceased to exist while WE continue. Your insignificant little piece of faecal matter can't even stand up to cowardly argies. How are you going to stand up against us? WE can understand your bravado but, at the bottom line, if we piss, you drown!

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    conq
    Don't be silly!

    When you piss, a sheep gets wet...

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie
    How are you, me olde racist turd?

    Tell me, how is Uruguay yours? By force or by genocidal massacre?

    When your ancestors arrived in uruguay were there hundreds of thousands of indigenous people that they made disappear, or were there 50 muderers, mutinous rapists who'd just been there 60 days?

    Whose home was stolen by force Stevie...you HYPOCRITICAL RACIST TURD!

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    What are you talking about, I love Brits!
    But the armed ones I prefer in Britain... Nothing to do with your race...

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    @32 Stevie You are a racist, would you like me to copy and paste all your racist comments?

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    When people say time is on their side they are resigned to growing old and useless. It's a shame init?

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    The armed ones on the Falklands are in Britain, a British Overseas Territory, Stevie.

    The armed ones on the Falklands (a British Overseas Territory) are there for defence, and have never been aggressive to any of the South American neighbours.

    However, when the armed British defence was reduced in the early 1980s, an aggressive military strike occurred resulting in the deaths of 1000 people and the indiscriminate laying of minefields (against international law), the ignoring of binding UN Security Council Resolutions (against international law) and the use of human shields (against the Geneva Convention).

    The Argentine defence Minister as recently as last year suggested if Britain removed this armed defence, Argentina would invade again.

    So tell me Stevie, you thick racist turd, had a foreign power invaded you 30 years ago, caused deaths equal to a third of your population, rounded up every Uruguayan and held them at gunpoint, planted unmapped minefields all over Uruguay, and suggest that the only reason they don't repeat is because of your armed defence...perhaps, maybe, you might just keep it.

    Of course, being a thick racist turd, you wouldn't understand the extraordinary restraint shown by this defence force, and the ludicrous behaviour of the Argentine governments and turds like you who support their stance.

    Never mind Stevie, they say ignorance is bliss, you must be euphoric.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Ha, ha, ha.

    This stupid, stupid woman who, allegedly is a “Political Scientist” (isn't that a good definition for an oxymoron) wants to be president of the country. Her opponent is 80 and she says is too old.

    We already have a bunch of cunts running it; we don't need any more, especially argie supporters like herself. That is something no-one can accuse Vasquez of being.

    This 80 YO has already run the country and left the present idiots with a legacy of monetary policy that a western country can admire. All gone now in four years of Marxist-commie rule by illiterates who think rolling sovereign debt over for two generations is the way to go. And people wondered why it took Vasquez some time to decide to run!!!!!

    However, no real surprise if the recent poll that 55% of the population have no interest in what is happening in the government because that is how you end with a disaster like the present bunch of twats.

    It is such a shame that a lovely country like Uruguay has to suffer because of the Marxist and commie cabals when it could be vibrant with a really good economy.

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Would it be fair to say, that,
    If the mighty Argentina nation, with CFKs mighty navy / air force and Army , cannot take back their supposed territory now,,
    How does one take it back when the mighty royal navy gets it carriers, and the new subs ,
    R.A.F. fighters, and the British army..

    Please inform us, it will be interesting reading…lol
    .

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @10
    “This shows once again the Spanish sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands.”

    Like the Spanish official visit to the Falkland Islands in 1863, when the Spanish saluted the Union Jack and swapped presents with the Brits.

    A weird way of saying 'we(Spain) still claim the Falkland Islands,' isn't it?

    Perhaps you could explain why the Spanish rather than saluting the Union Jack in 1863, didn't invade the Islands?

    Or perhaps your reverse logic is this?-That by saluting the Union Jack (and not fighting the Brits) in 1863 the Spanish were still claiming the Islands, which would therefore mean the Argentines by invading the Islands in 1982 accepted the British claim?

    Sep 20th, 2013 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ig Van Rykkard

    Greetings from Uruguay!
    In order to understand Constanza's statement, a Broad Front Party internal language translation is needed. She is just saying the following -
    “The Falklands belong to Falklanders, otherwise, even Uruguay could claim that land, as Uruguay could be claimed by Brazil, Portugal or Spain”.

    Sep 21st, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Interesting but have the Argentineans realised what Uruguay are saying ? Whilst they support the Argentinean claim to the Falkland Islands they do not relate that to claims in the Antarctic . However, the main reason why the Argentine is kicking up such a fuss is because they wish to use the Falklands and Georgia and South Sandwich Islands to lay claim to a large chunk of Antarctica. So what Uruguay are really saying is. Yes we will support you over the Falklands, but we will not support that as a territorial claim on the sub continent

    Sep 22nd, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    There is a historical relationship between Argentina and the United Kingdom.
    There is a historical relationship of friendship between Argentina and the United Kingdom.
    However, many times we have betrayed.
    However, I feel no hatred for the British nor the people who live on the islands.

    Sep 23rd, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l'm glad to hear that Malvinense, however we still do not want to be part of Argentina.
    We can still be friends, just as soon as Argentina drops its ridiculous “claims” to our land.
    Thank you.

    Sep 24th, 2013 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Indeed Malvinese, you feel betrayed by the British.

    We feel betrayed too...

    We felt betrayed in November 1832 when Argentina sent a warship to our islands and tried to lay claim to them, we acted swiftly and evicted these pirates with zero loss of life.

    We felt betrayed in 1945 when Argentina offered safe haven for Nazi war criminals whos actions had cost the lives of millions.

    We especially felt betrayed in 1982 when Argentina invaded the Falklands, held the civilian population at gun-point, indiscriminatly planted minefields, and cost 1000 lives in a battle based only on Argentine vanity.

    We feel betrayed every time Argentina refuses to pay its debts, we feel betrayed every time Argentina lies about the “malvinas”, we feel betrayed by the shit you and other Malvinistas spout...

    However, we have no animosity towards Argentina, just wish she'd grow up and stop behaving like a spoit child.

    Sep 24th, 2013 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Unfortunately the present population of the Argentine robbed the indigenous population of their country, and now try to criticise the British inhabitants of the Falklands !

    I understand that the UK, at one point, offered to take ownership to the International Courts, but the Argentine refused. One's understanding of that is that the realised that they had no international case, and would lose !

    The use of the Falklands to the Argentine is purely political. They use it as an internal football for politicians to gain popularity and to conceal political deficiencies there. Its about time that the population of the Argentine woke up to the fact that they are being fed Falklands propaganda at home to save their own politicians skin back home

    Sep 24th, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    “Uruguay Senator [Moreira] ... swears full allegiance to Argentina”

    - elsewhere in the world that is called high treason.

    Sep 25th, 2013 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    45St John

    “Allegiance to RG” - and nobody in Uruguay says 'boo'.

    Sep 25th, 2013 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    maybe she should go live in arg land and leave her home if she loves them so much.

    Sep 26th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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