Friday, October 25th 2013 - 06:22 UTC

Argentine first time 'young voters' remain distant from Sunday's mid-term election

Argentines aged 16 and 17 will be able to vote for the first time in Sunday's midterm elections but the incidence of their ballot in the final result is considered marginal since many of them did not register. In Argentina voting is mandatory for the 18 to 70 age group, and 600.000 teen agers of 16 and 17 have registered to vote on 27 October when half the Lower House and a third of the Senate seats are renewed.

Youth group La Campora is a hand-out-jobs club, under the leadership of Maximo Kirchner

In Argentina the 16/17 age group totals 1.38 million but only 600.000 bothered to register .

Last August primaries, an anticipation of Sunday, the 'young voters' were allowed to express their opinion based on a September 2012 bill but it is not known effectively how many went to the ballot box. According to the Electoral Chamber the youngsters who voluntarily registered to vote represent 2% of the 30.5 million Argentines in the electoral roll. In Argentina the 16/17 age group totals 1.38 million and to vote they had to register.

“In the August primaries was the first time the over 16 could vote, but the truth is participation was limited. What was expected to be a sort of cascade of young people votes finally did not happen”, according to Virginia Garcia Beaudoux, member of the Belgrano University Public Opinion Centre.

The age group 18 to 35 represent a third of Argentina's electoral roll, but despite this the concerns, problems, aspirations of that age group seem to be absent from the campaign and their participation in political parties activities is even weaker.

The activity of young voters in politics did have a peak when the presidential election of 2011, which saw Cristina Fernandez re-elected by an overwhelming 54% of votes and had the youth group La Campora, supported by her Kirchnerite administration, play an active role.

However this time the political group under the leadership of Maximo Kirchner, the president's eldest son, had a very low profile in the campaign.

“Youth participation is very much conditioned by what is today its most prominent expression, La Campora which to be honest does not seem a good example of political debate or for the formation of future cadres and helping young people train to ascend in positions of leadership”, said Jorge Arias from Polilat.

“The kirchnerite La Campora is more like a give-out-of-jobs club trying to make it into a centre of power and this obviously is not the best example for young people to participate actively in politics”, he added.

According to Orlando D'Adamo co-director of Copub, the other nuclei of 'young voters' are concentrated in the extremes: on the one side 'very much to the left' such as with the Workers Party (almost Trotskyite) and on the other, the Republican Proposal, PRO, a conservative force led by Buenos Aires City mayor Mauricio Macri.

Arias also pointed out that the 'youth vote' participation in other opposition parties is even more weakened than in the ruling coalition, basically because “there are less spaces of power to distribute”.

Young people don't feel identified in Sunday's election, not only because of the results, but also because they were mostly absent from drafting the campaign agenda and proposals, added Arias.

“Young people are the essence of candidates campaigns, but unfortunately on this occasion they have not been convened or don't feel attracted to discuss ideas to elaborate on proposals that help young people incorporate into the social, political institutional and economic spaces”.
 

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1 andy65 (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 10:28 am Report abuse
Maximo would never win a beauty contest would he.
2 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
I would say 90% of those 16 year old that actually bothered to register are voting the Ks
3 ElaineB (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
@2 I agree and also think that is a pretty high proportion that registered to vote considering the age group.
4 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
I don’t necessarily see a large amount of 16/18 years old taking in interest in politics as a bad thing, even I did when I was that age but I was always independent and open to other ideas and never thought of it as joining a “club”…. What I don’t like is La Campora brainwashing them, taking them to these summer camps where they indoctrinate them and prepare them to organize a mobilize for the government

www.lanacion.com.ar/1557471-la-isla-del-evita-una-escuela-de-kirchnerismo

Things like these just make you think about how long term they were thinking, even some months ago
5 ElaineB (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 01:47 pm Report abuse
I totally agree with you. La Campora is a brainwashing institution aimed at an age where ideas are still forming and most young people are directionless and looking for a 'cause' albeit manufactured.

Most 16 to18 year olds are obsessed with things other than politics but are happy to join a club if they think it is slightly rebellious. Children want to belong and be accepted. That is why manipulation of this age group is so very wrong.
6 knarfw (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 01:49 pm Report abuse
@4 - “taking them to these summer camps where they indoctrinate them and prepare them to organize a mobilize for the government”

Hitler-Jugend springs to mind.
7 Optimus_Princeps (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
The La Campora youth are usually morally corrupted to begin with because their parents are horrible human beings. Anyone with any semblance of moral fortitude doesn't fall for their stupid propaganda.

I think that the organization provides us with a way to group all the terrible people together and identify them with more certainty.

However, I do worry about children below the age of 11 being indoctrinated. That's just wrong.
8 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
(4) CabezaDura

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

Politically interested young people gathering in all openess (as your “La Nación” link clearly shows) on an Island near Buenos Aires to peacefully exercise their democratic right of discussing and learning politics......

Were did I recently read about an Island near a capital city where politically interested young people gather in all openess to peacefully exercise their democratic right of discussing and learning about politics?

Ohhhhh yes, I remember now....................... in Norway:
www.thelocal.no/20130717/utoya-veterans-prepare-island-for-ceremony
9 yankeeboy (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 03:38 pm Report abuse
Just wondering, what color hat and scarves to The LaCampora youths wear while they are marching or destroying some opposition property?

Light blue, white and yellow probably but that seems kind girly for a lil'stormtrooper outfits.
10 Conqueror (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
@1 Definitely looks like a slug!
@8 Can you not see a difference? A group of “young people” gathering together to be indoctrinated and another group gathering to reject the actions of a nazi homicidal maniac? Aren't argies pretty nazi? Don't bother to deny it. We know you are!
11 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
You are back Think..... We have you being these last few days....early summer vacation I presume in the Delta ???
Probably have had to move from Tigre a little bit North to Entre Rios nowdays... No longer friendly territory

Chuckle Chuckle
12 Faz (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:49 pm Report abuse
Think welcome back! It has certainly been less entertaining without you. Good news is that porridge is better than pro biotic yoghurts...
13 The Truth PaTroll (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
The only indoctrination all Argentine children need is to never trust a foreigner.
14 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:04 pm Report abuse
(11) CabezaDura

Uhhhhhhhhhh...
The panic is cundiendo...
Somebody call the milicos...
They are organizing the negrada...

Chuckle chuckle©
15 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:21 pm Report abuse
It actually seems you are the ones in panic...
Its not a question of calling the milicos, its a question of indoctrination of those who are easily done so with our money.
16 yankeeboy (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
13. Doesn't that start with the Patoruzito cartoons?
17 HansNiesund (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:34 pm Report abuse
@13
Does that mean they can trust their fellow Argentines? What do you teach them about that?
18 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
(15) CabezaDura

You say...:
It actually seems you are the ones in panic...

I say...:
Who is “YOU”.....?
“WE” will do quite well on Sunday......
www.partidosocialista.org.ar/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LA-ARGENTINA-QUE-QUEREMOS.pdf
19 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:50 pm Report abuse
Think
Hilarious ¡! You remind me of some friend I knew once when we were kids, he used to shift is support for the team who was the last champion and was playing best. Never in could stand the downhill trial.

However since you are in Chubut and I never heard the socialist made much noise there I presume it would be the drug lord Yahuar then??
If you dont want to admit you were wrong, Its always better to stay loyal than to be a pankake flipping upside down
20 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
(19) CabezaDura

You say...:
“ You remind me of some friend I knew once when we were kids, he used to shift is support for the team who was the last champion and was playing best”

I say...:
Being a Millonario from birth, I can't possibly relate to your friend's shifting alliegances............. He must have been a Bostero.
Being a Millonario from birth, I can appreciate when other teams play good fulbo.
Being a Millonario from birth, I'm not afraid of saying so.....
21 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
LOL He was a Bostero a couple of times !! But he was River in 1996-1997 for sure.
22 The Truth PaTroll (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
@17

Even the most wicked Argentine is an Ceraphim next to an outsider.

@16

At least we have indian comic strip heroes. Do Americans have any?
23 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:49 pm Report abuse
(22) The Truth PaTroll

You say....:
“At least we have indian comic strip heroes. Do Americans have any?”

I say.....:
Ohhhhhh yes they do……
Jay Silverheels........, better known as “Tonto”
The Lone Ranger’s faithful friend.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQPxtMv3vY
24 HansNiesund (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
@22

How about answering the question? How far can you trust a fellow Argentine seraphim? What do you teach in school?
25 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
Why dont you admit you are wrong Think in believing her lies and fantasies? Its not the end of the world you know, you are not going to be burned on the stake the day of reckoning comes, you don’t have to die with her. Anybody can make mystakes. It’s better than being Kirchnerite from 2003-2013/2015 and later saying “Ohh I was always with Binner”.

I’m voting for Baldassi, but I would rather vote for Aguad, but as Aguad is already on board for sure on sunday, I will use my vote to support Baldassi PRO (who let’s face it, the poor ex referre doesn’t get a clue of anything) than to let this hypocrite Scotto in to sell out the Province pulling its pants down and decline our long pending case of the money that the central government owes us.
26 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:14 pm Report abuse
(25) CabezaDura

You tell me you are de River; I believe you.....
You tell me you are Cordooooobés; I believe you.....
You tell me you are proud to be a gorila; I believe you.....

Why don't you believe me?
27 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:19 pm Report abuse
You are funny Think....So you are not voting Yahuar on Sunday?
28 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
(27) CabezaDura

Nope........
29 golfcronie (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:39 pm Report abuse
Do you know the nearest thing to silver?............Lone Rangers bollocks
30 CabezaDura (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:41 pm Report abuse
28) Chubut is well acquainted for its Welsh cakes and tea houses, I didn’t know they were also good producing pancakes there too…… ;-)
31 reality check (#) Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
@29

The Lone Ranger, isn't that the WB?
32 yankeeboy (#) Oct 26th, 2013 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
Think, Is your Rg pension keeping up with the price of Bread?

Do you think a “won” decade was worth 3 generations of wealth?

Does it make you furious that I told you this would happen?
33 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 27th, 2013 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
Bread is skyrocketing.....but then so is everything. Talking to family in Argentina.....they were bitching that tomato's is well over 70 pesos per kilo.
The good news is that today is the beginning of the end for kirchnerism, even Wall Street is taking note. Depending how bad she get's beat, her friends just may turn on her like a pack of wolves or a shark feeding frenzy. I can hardly wait until 8PM.
34 Think (#) Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:31 pm Report abuse
(33) Captain Poppy

You say...:
“Talking to family in Argentina.....they were bitching that tomato's is well over 70 pesos per kilo.”

I say...:
“Bitching” is the right term.............
As you can see on the link below, today's price for normal tomatos is about 20 pesos per kilo....
www.cotodigital.com.ar/l.asp?cat=751&id=751
35 yankeeboy (#) Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
Funny how a “won” decade leads to Bread Riots
Maybe a new term
Tomato Riots
Hilarious
36 Faz (#) Oct 27th, 2013 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
20 pesos is about $4 ! Thats a lot when you live on $7 a day.. It will be porridge oats next Think. The Peronists will be getting slaughtered, they have driven RGland even further into the dust. And if Toby the tit is a typical product of your education system what hope have you got for the future?
37 Think (#) Oct 27th, 2013 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
TWIMC...

Election day is over...
FpV keeps its mayority in the Congress and the Senate...
Meaning that, from tomorrow, the blue dollar, bread and tomatos will see much lower prices...

Think is happy.... :-)))
38 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 27th, 2013 - 09:41 pm Report abuse
One...... the count is going on. Yoo MIGHT....I say might keep a majority but you Kirchnerite's will never pass things through like changing the constitution to keep the Grand Cunt Christina in office. AND....you still might lose the majority. Kirchnerism died today and with any hope....so does TMBOA.

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