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Argentine embassy underlines strong C24 support for the Malvinas question
Argentina received strong support on Thursday at the United Nations Special Committee on Decolonisation (C24), which met in New York to discuss the Malvinas Question, according to a release from the Argentine embassy in London. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHonestly who gives a fark?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0More talk.
Argentina. It's is 2014. Move on.
For the love of God. Move on. 200 years ago is just that. 200 hundred farking years.
You can talk and issue press releases for another 200 years and it won't change the facts on the ground.
The Falklands “dispute” isn't amenable to rational solution because it isn't rational to begin with. The spectacle of Argentina arguing to a decolonization committee that some principle of colonial inheritance entitles it to colonise the Falklands regardless of the wishes of the inhabitants is just further proof of that. As is the hilarious spectacle of a procession of Spanish speakers queuing up to claim that implanted populations have no rights, when the only two members of the Committee who actually are former colonies now democratically governed by their indigenous populations support those rights.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0sorry...!!strong C24 support for the Malvinas question!!!! good on Argentina~~~
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately for you, questions of sovereignity and freedom aren't decided by a straw poll among your mates.
So Spanish speaking, European throw backs club is telling the world how to go about decolonization. Show me the Incas in the club ..................YAWN
Jun 28th, 2014 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3
Jun 28th, 2014 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Strong support for the Malvinas question” and that is what? Malvinas does not exist in the South Atlantic Ocean you knob. Now the FALKLANDS that is another matter. They have decided their future, time to move on.
5 Black Cat
Jun 28th, 2014 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's not really much to add to that. It's a bit hard for two sides to settle a dispute when only one side has one.
Just shows how little they know about the British, if they think this sort of pathetic gerrymandering of a sub committee of the UN is going to make us abandon the rights of the islanders.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0There was me thinking that Galtiere showed a criminal lack of knowledge and judgement about us, but apparently not!
Here's a few pointers that might help them in their future efforts.
1. They are British by choice, we are British by choice.
2. They are a small island, we are a small island.
3. Their island was invaded by fascists, we on our island, in living memory, fought off an invasion by fascists.
Spot the similarities.
We will never talk to you unless the islanders ask for us, to be present.
They have democratically decided their future, it is not for discussion with would be colonists. Any form of military aggression against the islands, will be met with full power our military forces. Notice I say our military forces because that means the islanders military forces, which is what they are.
@3 irrelevant. The legal facts are that Four ICJ Advisory Opinions and one ICJ Judgment all confirm that the right to self-determination is applicable to ALL NSGTS. The annual trip to the UN C24 by Argentinean politicians is m e a n I n g l e s s. Lol.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is anyone else having problems with Argentinian news sites ?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine Embassy? What IS the purpose of their embassy? What IS the purpose of the Trolly Dolly?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think its like having a fly in your kitchen, they are just trying to annoy us?
Swat them…
The failed foreign minister who unfortunately resembles and acts like Gollum - ”we wants it, we must have it, Precioussss sssss“ , and his tag along, a loser without a proper job Snr Filmussss - is he Smeagol? A comedy duo par exellence! Does anyone take this pair of clowns seriously? Lol..
Thus proving, once again, that the C24 is stupid and irrelevant.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0And so on to the next stage. The stage where the Falkland Islands Government declares that it will not be sending a delegation to next year's corrupt joke. And where it denies that the UN has any jurisdiction. The latam glee club can get together every year, do their NY shopping, have a piss-up and then piss off.
3 P.Argentino.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0OK then, given the situation of distrust that exists between the Islands and Argentina the ONLY way for talks to start is to start in a general term on a mutual basis - so we can start to get to know each other and become a little bit more friendly. Then in time maybe we can progress the relationship.
This is the way it works in the world. You start off basically talking about minor issues- it builds TRUST - then in time you hopefully move to more difficult issues.
Therefore WHY does your Foreign Minister and also your President REFUSE
to sit down and talk with us when we have offered to:
At the UN
In London
Come on - I challenge you to tell me Why Not?
@10
Jun 28th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Had problems yesterday. Reported today that widespread problems occurred with BT.
'The resolution, sponsored by Bolivia, Chile, Cuba, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Venezuela.”
A little like the lags voicing support for the 'top dog' crook on 'C' Wing.
Dissapointed at Chile, but I guess when you live next door to a nutter - it's best to go with the flow, especially when they are annoying someone else ; )
lt means nothing.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lt is nothing,
Argentina will get nothing here.
Trunce- we fully understand Chile,s position each time - Their President has a choice:
Jun 28th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A - support Argentina is an irrelevant little UN Committee that has zero power or influence.
B- be prepared to receive frequent late night phone calls from a deranged ranting witch in Buenos Aires.
Which would you do!
Can I book my Cocker Spaniel for their next trip to the poodle parlour? I am sure he will need a clipping by then.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Are you kidding? Argieland is an 18th century delinquent. Delinquent = one who breaks the law. In which century do you expect, or even hope, that argieland would like to “get to know” you? Argieland's idea of “getting to know” you is having a little longer in which to decide which part of your anatomy to shove an assault rifle into. As long as there isn't a Guardsman, Para or Royal Marine within 4,000 miles.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As some people like to say “Wake up and smell the coffee”. Argieland is an ENEMY. Quit thinking you can be “friendly”. All that will happen is that we'll have to come down and liberate you again!
@10, 14
Jun 28th, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Had trouble yesterday. “No connection to server” for awhile and then very slow loading of MP, both Webpage and FB.
Email back and forth to Argentina - no problem.
Friend in Argentina reported trouble with MP site.
“DOS” Denial of Service” cyber attack on MP Servers, perhaps??
Secretary for Malvinas Affairs Daniel Filmus, Governor of the Province of Tierra del Fuego, Antártida e Islas del Atlántico Sur, Fabiana Ríos>>>>>>>>>you cannot be a governor or secretary for land you don't have control off, including Antarctica.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who really takes any notice of anything emanating from the Argentine Embassy? Everytime Alicia Castro f---s she s---s herself!
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19
Jun 28th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DOS attack -
I would think that anyone having control of a botnet would have greater priorities that targetting a benign news site like Mercopress - unless team Arg are really rattling the keyboards : )
@3 Port Jackson.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your problem is that all of the resolutions requesting Argentina and the UK to talk (there are no demands-the wording on the resolutions says REQUEST), refer to
1/-The Islander's (i.e not the Argentines or UK's) interests.
2/-Preferable independence for former colonies-not colonisation by Argentina or the UK.
3/-That the solution must refer to the UN Charter.
As Argentina itself breaks 2065-why should the UK have talks?
In the 1970s and 1980s when the UK was talking (broken unilaterally by your invasion in 1982), Islanders were present at the talks.
Omitting 'the population' breaks 2065.
Also, the UK respects the interests of the population, Argentina does not-therefore simple-Argentina is breaking those resolutions, not the UK.
The C24 siding with Argentina is about as effective as using a fly to stop a freight train-if you want the Islands-easy:
1/-use 40,000,00 people to persuade 3000 people that it's a good idea to be Argentine.
2.Go to the ICJ.
3/-Illegally invade (though you might not want to get your arse kicked again).
Would someone like to explain to this retired, Limey, ‘pig-iron polisher’ what possible advantage to Argentina a ‘DRAFT’ resolution from a corrupt sub-sub-committee is?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let us look at the facts the C24 has been producing similar ‘Draft’ resolutions since 1989. Since then not one, in any form, has got past the UN’s Fourth Committee, to whom the C 24 now report, in any form whatever! After the Fourth Committee it is passed to the General Assembly.
Now my understanding is that the C24 want the General Assembly to accept/adopt the resolution they have proposed, that is the ‘DRAFT’ resolution. How can this bunch of incompetents on the C24 expect the General Assembly to adopt a resolution which reiterates something they (the General Assembly) have not stated before (that the Falklands is a ‘special colonial situation’), or even something similar?
The mind boggles.
The problem is this...
Jun 28th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone knows that 40 or so countries “support” Argentina. Many of those 40 are represented in the C25.
However the UNGA has over 200 countries, and at the last vote the UK managed 62 votes with the remaining abstaining.
So repeating the same 40 doesn't help Argentina, it isn't “global support”, and it isn't enough for a UNGA majority.
So, no UN resolutions supporting them, and certainly nothing from the only UN body that could help them the ICJ.
So...my dear Argentine trolls...
Why do these C24 drafts never become UNGA resolutions?
Why do your politicians only lobby the C24 but not ask the ICJ for an indicative ruling?
If the UK were trying to seize (colonise) a territory, I would be asking my politicians these questions, rather than happy clapping their ridiculous rhetoric.
“Everyone knows that 40 or so countries “support” Argentina. Many of those 40 are represented in the C25.”
Jun 28th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And of those - how many do so as a matter of expediency....
22 of them are Latin, a further 10 are pariah states, 5 of the remaining have their own “self-dermination hoodoos”. So all in all about 3 countries who supported Argentina in 2008 are inexplicable.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 060 countries supported the UK, quite a diverse list...including only one Latin country...but others from all round the globe.
@25. Let's try accuracy. There are 193 countries in the United Nations General Assembly. Not “over 200”. Wonder why it's called the Committee of 24 when the “membership” is variable and currently has 29?
Jun 29th, 2014 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How many are latino thugs? How many are just thugs?
Why doesn't the Security Council disband this bunch of expenses tossers?
Come to think of it, why doesn't the Security Council remove the right to “veto” from China and Russia? Neither have ever exhibited democracy or intelligence.
Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples
Jun 29th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Adopted by the UN General Assembly Resolution 1514 (XV), 14 December 1960
And to this end Declares that:
1. The subjection of peoples to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation constitutes a denial of fundamental human rights, is contrary to the Charter of the United Nations and is an impediment to the promotion of world peace and co-operation.
2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.
3. Inadequacy of political, economic, social or educational preparedness should never serve as a pretext for delaying independence.
4. All armed action or repressive measures of all kinds directed against dependent peoples shall cease in order to enable them to exercise peacefully and freely their right to complete independence, and the integrity of their national territory shall be respected.
5. Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence and freedom.
6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
7. All States shall observe faithfully and strictly the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the present Declaration on the basis of equality, non- interference in the internal affairs of all States, and respect for the sovereign rights of all peoples and their territorial integrity.
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@29
Jul 01st, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for that Briton-4. is interesting as it seems to override the Argentines obsession with using 6. in isolation.
“ All armed action or repressive measures of all kinds directed against dependent peoples shall cease”
Perfectly illustrated by the Argentine invasion in 1982.
“in order to enable them to exercise peacefully and freely their right to complete independence”
Which is being prevented by Argentina's colonial ambitions.
“and the integrity of their national territory shall be respected.”
So here national integrity clearly refers to the people that have been a colony, and the land they inhabit. As the Islanders do not claim any part of Argentina, the integrity of national territory refers to the Falkland Islands, not Argentina themselves.
Agreed,
Jul 01st, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And why this C24 should now be abolished, and Argentina dumped where it belongs, in the bin
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