MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
“Calamitous” state of Argentine Armed Forces equipment
Argentine investigative reporter Jorge Lanata, loathed by the current government of president Cristina Fernandez for his disclosure of the close business links of certain unscrupulous entrepreneurs (or most probably straw-men) who have become millionaires during the Kirchner years, has now exposed the 'calamitous' state of the Argentine armed forces equipment. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules..this should read “Calamitous state of Argentine ” period!
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 01 The Voice
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0...you know you've been labelled an agent of Mercopress and a breacher of Go Daddy ethics?
Now is the time for Parguay and Chile to invade and regain their stolen land.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having to cancel an anniversary flyover for fear of something developing a FOTS problem over the capital?
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Priceless...
Everything in this story is TRUE.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since the middle 90s they have being reporting the loss of assets, skills and talent in our armed forces. Years of neglecting our defense. Years of left-oriented brainwashing crap against the military. Well, here´s the result: a defenseless country. Yet they spend endless hours and tons of hot air denouncing the British imperialism, the militarization of the south Atlantic, etc.
This is not, however, of the entire fault of the last govs, much specially the last decade of kirchner´s BS. The first responsible are the military itself, after years of corruption, cups and the worst Argentinian mistake of the XX century: the falklands war. They planted the seeds of the current status.
And here it is what we have now: no air control, no sea control, no land forces suitable for modern warfare. Our borders have being neglected and given away to smugglers, illegals and drug dealers (the same who pay for certain candidates, such as CFK). Illegal fisheries destroy our seas, yet we focus on the “evil islands” as if they were the roots of all our troubles.
What a shame. What a disgrace.
I said and, under risk of being called names, I repeat myself: the only possible solution for Argentina is to be annexed by a long running country, period. We will simply NOT survive another 4 years of that cancer caller “peronism”, nor another “bolivarian” gov.
I assume this was by design as any south American military would have forced a coup by now based on the shambles the Kirchners have made of things.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 02
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Idleshands I see you are now able to identify the fake.....
Only Mercopress and myself would be able to use that ID look at the other thread, posts following consecutively ...its a ongoing problem that we have been over before...it's tiresome and quite unfair to other users.....
Poor Ilsen thought I was complimenting him.....AS IF!!....
If it's out of character...it's not me.....;-)
the armed forces are totally useless for a country like argentina, who has not any possibility of bellicose conflict.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so the armed forces should be restructured to do civil work, expelling and jailing milani, restructuring their expenses and putting them in service of more noble causes.
that is why is very important to demilitarize the south atlantic, especially those little islets located in the southern mar argentino.
in the end, we, like the rest of south america, are not a bellicose nation like little britain who are invading and looting other territories since its creation.
#8 Paul, I take it that your comment about the British Military is ironic? We all know that the only reason the garrison is there is because it needs to be there to protect the inhabitants and British territory. I am sorry your country is a basket case, but thats the fault of the inhabitants. Your neighbours are a shining example of how to set things right. A strong military scares the Peronists who fear what happened in the 70s and 80s.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul, I saw that the construction industry is back to the levels not seen since 2002. I lived there then and there was ZERO activity.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder you are so bitter.
I doubt you'll be able to work in that industry again for at least a decade and maybe two.
BTW Every country needs to defend its borders otherwise its not a country.
8.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One day Argentina and Brazil will have to go to war. The biggest threat to Argentina in to the North rather than the South Atlantic
I've long thought Chile should take the productive farming land and probably the oil/gas fields too.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's nothing Argentina could do about it
And its really better off in their hands
If they were going to do it now is the time while the USA has a weak and indecisive Prez that lets other countries take whatever they want.
5 SebaSvtz (#)
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I said and, under risk of being called names, I repeat myself: the only possible solution for Argentina is to be annexed by a long running country, period”
I am sorry mate. But even if we Chileans might be in a military position to annex you guys... currently with ease, this would turn out as a troyan horse. Due to mayority of your population (45 millions vs our 17 million), you would reelect the same people of your government into ours towards Santiago, and you would f*ck up my chilean nation and drag us down too.
I am sorry, this issue must be solved by you guys yourselves, we do not have any territorial ambitions of megalomania and grandesse, but only interested in the development of our little and fine nation. Good luck
@ 13
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I´m afraid you may be right. This has to be solved from within. However, I don´t see any chances in the following years, since those who may replace CFK play the same music, and people ... well, people either don´t care or are quite comfortable living out of those who actually work.
It sucks.
Mr Voice… I feel your pain, life is sometimes so unfair :(
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The green heartlands are too far away from Chile, they have to cross the Andes and the desert of Mendoza and San Luis to get there. They would need at least +50.000 troops to occupy that much land. That unless they would be more interested in Patagonia and the energy resources there. That is much more in their range
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After watching those Stratfor reports and brilliant lectures from Zeihan for me it’s obvious that Brazil is landlocked and will never become a power unless it takes control over the Parana basin and the heads of navigation that Argentina moved North in the 1830s.
My guess is that the Argentine Defense minister is not even aware of those kind threats or not even qualified to understand those kind of strategical concepts that is simply available to anybody on the internet.
They are too ideologically stupid and unrealistic, they are all about the Malvinas they think Britain is going to steal chunks of Ice in the Antarctic on or the yanks are going invade the water reservoirs and make a underground pipeline all the way to California but all the Latam brothers are going to come to our rescue.
10 dear yankeeboy
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“BTW Every country needs to defend its borders otherwise its not a country.”
the borders are patrolled / defended by the gendarmería and prefectura, not by the armed forces.
about the countries with no armed forces, we can find:
japan (yes, japan)
lichtenstein
andorra
costa rica
panama
monaco
it seems many of them are a lot more civilized and prosperous than the uk.
not to mention the falkland islets.
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Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Japan doesn't have armed forces.... LOL!!!!! they probably have a bigger navy than China's
3 of the other cases you mention are city states...
Keep it up with your rugby male bonding fantasies, the only stuff you know about
16. That is the most misinformed post of the day...so far!
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations!!
What no mention of construction back to 2002?? Are you a waiter now?
“the borders are patrolled / defended by the gendarmería and prefectura, not by the armed forces.”
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL
They are not defended nor patrolled, Gendarmeria is sent ever more to the big cities and the interior of the country to do the work of policing as crime spirals out of control and that is as if the borders were not completely uncontrolled as the already are...
What joke this guy is
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Jul 22nd, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“it seems many of them are a lot more civilized and prosperous than the uk.
not to mention the falkland islets.”
20HAhahaaaha , you have just made my morning
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you even know what is going on in the south East China Sea?? You come to me with an article which basically says and means nothing in today’s world. It s a matter of formalities
Do you know of any Constitutions in the world that say that they can act freely or invade any territory that it pleases???
Ohh I just forgot that you are a ignorant buffoon and the first one that bends over to fetch the soap in the Rugby club showers… PMSL
@16-continued-
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately Argentina is not contained in that classification yet.
@ 16
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina´s minister of defense is a clueless tool. And so was the previous one, a lady with a terrorist past.
@ 21
I take he says that because of the JSDF name rather than because of its composition. I wish we (Argentina) were as defenseless as Japan is ...
All those Japanese Aegis class guided missile destroyers must be a figment of everyone's imagination. As for their sixteen attack submarines - they're sausages for a barbecue.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28086002
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Japan's changing military constitution.
The only thing you puta's do is rationalize you weak and feminized military. As for de-militarizing the South Atlantic.....just wait until China starts sending the naval ships to their new colonies to protect their farm lands and mines and shale oil they now own.
lol
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Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pablito doesn’t even understand nor know what he is talking about. When South Africa was in control over half of Angola in the 1980s the South African armed forces were called under abbreviation SADF (“defense force”) in name only
putito 23
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cabeza dura is what you should eat everyday, putito.
not by chance you chose that nickname, eh?
25
”I take he says that because of the JSDF name rather than because of its composition. I wish we (Argentina) were as defenseless as Japan is ...”
nobody is talking about being defenseless
@ 29
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You didn´t get what I said.
JSDF are an impressive force, heavily equipped when it comes to it naval component. I wish Argentina had such a defensive structure as well, rather than the famine, poor shadow that our armed forces are now.
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Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL you can’t get more basic than calling people “putito” but then again basic ignorant and crass is what defines you. And obviously something must have touched a nerve with your obsession on male bondage.
Cabeza dura simply means that I’m a very stubborn and hard minded person.
As I said keep it to your love for rugbiers dissimulated in love for rugby and dont talk about things you dont know about appart from being a KK excusing the government for leaving the country defenseless
but Argentina, according to Lanata, is actually defenseless.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So at least one person is talking about it.
Just a thought!
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Japan_Maritime_Self-Defense_Force_ships
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0come cabezas duras
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“One day Argentina and Brazil will have to go to war.”
based on what, putito?
it seems you want to eat some brazilian hard heads too, eh?
30
the difference is there isn't any conflict hypothesis here.
so far this government has used the armed forces as an excuse for corruption.
all that in accordance with milani.
so a small self defence force would be more than enough for a country like this, and the possibility to control its expenses would be a lot more feasible.
33.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Based on things you can possibly understand. I don’t have time for you, you are too ignorant and stupid. I think I would have to charge you for educating you
So keep on with what you know about..... And that is male bondage and fetching the soap Rugby club showers
Paul, I think you are willfully ignorant of what it takes to defend a country. You do know you have 100s of daily incursions in the north with all the drug runners etc. It would be just as easy for Chile or Brazil to control your skies ( and your country) and there's absolutely nothing Argentina could do about it.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you get a change in gov'ts on either side your screwed.
Frankly another country having a go at your landmass is really the best thing that could happen to you and the following generation.
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Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force (yes I know wiki can be inaccurate but gives an idea)
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force
Just because they have renounced war doen't mean they don't have a defensive force to deter aggressors, just like there are forces on the Falklands to prevent Argentina walking in (which your defense minister said they would)
“the borders are patrolled / defended by the gendarmería and prefectura, not by the armed forces.”
They would police your borders, if an agressive army turned up your army would be there to meet them.
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Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17,21,29 Pablo “suave cabeza”
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU are certainly defenceless, you hapless moron.
BTW,
Monaco is well defended and supported, as a French Protectorate.
Not that they are threatened by jealous neighbours anyway.
You really are clueless - we are all laughing at your stupidity.
Nostrils Pu-Yi is brighter than you !
:-D
it seems come-cabeza-dura has had some problem with a brazilian boyfriend and now the little putito wants to drag the whole country to a war against the brazilians.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
try to solve your personal issues by yourself, you traga-cabeza-dura
I think Paul is a little testy since there's no more construction jobs and there won't be for the foreseeable future.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't help but admire Paul's delusion that JSDF (which includes 16 attack submarines, 4 helicopter destroyers (light carriers to my way of thinking), 37 major surface combatants, 300+ fighter aircraft (not including those being phased out), 650+ main battle tanks, 200+ self-propelled artillery pieces, about 100 attack helicopters and a total of a quarter of a million active personnel is somehow the equivalent of a coastguard/border control/police force.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even Singapore a City State of 5 MM has a larger operational and more capable navy than Argentina.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And perhaps Singapore's GDP is larger than Argentina's in real terms and in the blue dollar rate. Pathetic.
Argentina make spend on military have no point. Argentina smart not spend military, smarter when disband military.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina not win war against UK, USA even if use all money on military. Only threat to Argentina is UK, USA because UK, USA history show again time and time they invade, steal, kill other country person, for 400 year. Last time Iraq, only back 10 year. They not care nations.
So no point military, just hope UK, USA subhuman not want invade and kill you
My advice to all my Rg followers is to buy as many U$ as they can get their hands on.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Griesa ordered 24hr negotiations, no stay and no payments to EU bondholders.
:)
Griesa ordered? Much funny. Argentina get China money, Griesa and boyfriend Singer get no money.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Life wind now tough for them.
Toby, Please stop being so ridiculous. Its not funny it is sad.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hear Arg and China are still negotiating the finer points of the deal. Like which country will adjudicate when Argentina doesn't pay. So I wouldn't be expecting the Yuan loan anytime soon.
Toby is who?
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is lucky in that none of its neighbours have ever shown interest in geographic expansion. It is good for the region that Argentina is practically unilaterally disarming. As Argentina becomes defenceless we too can reduce our forces.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although not by design, it is right that this process started in Argentina. No neighbour of Argentina (as historically an aggressor and expansionist nation) could ever take the step to disarm if Argentina had a strong military.
If Argentina had the military capability to take on all her neighbours simultaneously (as Chile does) how safe would the region be?
Argentina has a serious problem with controlling her borders, something the military could help with, but really is the responsibility of a civil police force. Besides that the issue seems to be of corruption and lack of prestige.
Chile? Brazil? Paraguay not show yesterday expansionist??
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What history volume book you read yesterday, what teacher master teach at school teach you????
Non-Argentina Latin person ridiculous! Almost so bad as Europe person, also USA person, right now look at anti-Semitism all at Europe, anti-Palestinism in United States. Jews must go gas room, say Europe person in street! Palestine children must be kicked, killed say USA person.
Argentina, Jew person, Paletine person treated equal. No problem in Argentina. Chinese person also no problem. Argentina example of world right now.
@51 Toby
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When was the last time a country invaded Argentina?
When was the last time Argentina invaded another's sovereign territory?
It's not my fault they burnt all your books in the revolution.
@51 Tobias
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it amusing that you are writing in 'pidgin English' in your pretend Chinese persona. In other words you are writing how you believe (in your own little racist view) a Chinese person would speak.
What you don't know (because you are ignorant and racist) is that most Chinese English speakers have VERY good English, both written and spoken. It's important to them to learn English because it opens up career opportunities and they can get very well paid jobs.
I know that you've learn all you can of the Chinese by watching old Charlie Chan movies, but honestly Chinese people don't speak like that.
Also your complete 'defence' of Argentina is hilarious. Trying to fool others into believing that the 'world' supports Argentina. We've had your French (EUian) fake persona, your African fake persona and now your Chinese extremely fake persona.
And all because you can't, just can't, criticise the government about anything. And the reason you can't do that is because you don't understand that in a democracy it is not only the right of the people to question and criticise the government, it is the DUTY of the people to do so. But you believe (no doubt through your indoctrination) that to criticise the government is treason. Well that's only true in dictatorships.
Grow up Tobias. Pick a handle and stick with it. People will have far more respect for you. Using sock puppets is dishonest and proves that you know you haven't got any arguments that hold any water.
So be a man, Tobias, criticise the government for running down your armed forces to a point where they couldn't repel an attack from a group of girl guides, let alone an invading force.
Lucky for you that the British aren't interested in Argentina, isn't it? Despite what your insane leader and her winged monkeys would have you believe.
@鼻孔
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are not interested in freeing ourselves of NorthAm / EUian dominance just to become subservient to China.
You care no more for us than the other foreigners. Everything Argentine is superior to everything foreign, so you 鼻孔 are by my definition, inferior.
You extend Renminbi credit line to us knowing full and well that only London banks can clear Chinese currency, thus shackling us to the laws of the Engrish pirates.
You are self interested profiteers who care nothing for us.
52.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Depends what we call invasion. Back in 2010 50 Bolivian soldiers under their general crossed the border and raided an Argentine forest company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl9FXF5Qg9U
Aaaah #53,but have you seen Nostrils fake South American persona?
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its as fake as my Go Daddy!
When I was last in Dalian South Americans were in abundance sitting asleep under sombreros against the steps of the seamans club. Fakes!
You have to take care because there are so many fakes and knock offs around… :-)
“Calamitous state of Argentine Armed Farces”
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Music in my ears...!
And the comments of Condorito, my Shilean hermanito from Allende (presente!) la cordillera, beginning to see the light...
Music in my ears...!
在52
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You confuse it. You say before Chile, Brazil, Paraguay no expansionist country. Argentina expansionist. Not true. Chile, Brazil, Paraguay try many much time expand. Difference is yesterday Argentina successful, you fail.
Not Argentina fault, but you were expansion country (try attempt).
Brazil only could with small Paraguay only with Argentina Help. Chile only could against poor Peru. Argentina expand beat all neighbors, also Spain and England in history.
在53
I no need English, for my job. China need English only for trade. Good for them. English not important now. People no learn anymore in the world. Decline begin.
When you criticize your country?? Never. So you talk to who about duty???
在54
You are who? Racist argentina person?
Listen chaps, all go through military cut backs,
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but we are assured by the CFK government, that a deal with air fix industries
will fully supply all Argentine military needs , and in special kit form,, as soon as CFK gets the country going again..
chuckle....
Think… its music TO my ears, not music IN my ears!
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0… dea dear…
Anyway, see you down the legion later, its your round, and dont forget the Listerine!
@53
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Tobes, he doesn't even seem to be aware how Chinese typically choose a Western name for themselves for purposes of interaction with foreigners.
I adopt name then to integrate immediately now with England person.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My name right now becomes Alistair Nigel.
lol.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@58 Toby Chan
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chilean army never defeated. Defeat Bolivia & Peru two times in glorious defensive wars to end enemy's expansion. Defeat Cuban and Russian subversives in 20th century.
Argentine expansion to Bolivia defeated. Argentina shamed failed expansionist past. Kill native population in Patagonia. Defeated by Bolivia. Defeated by second rate English pirates. Now defeated by little woman of botox face.
@57 Think
The light shines from within.
在64
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You live on glory dream winds, me not care. Enjoy wand of your own made dream.
No approve yet of name change. But I now Alistair Nigel. Hope now English slowly gooder.
@65
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you should consider Toby Chan as a good name for you. It is sufficiently westernised to be easily adopted by Anglophones and is true to the roots of both your Argentine and Chinese personas.
I hope this persona lasts, he is both amusing and his English is far more concise than overly wordy Toby incarnations.
Oh dear, no ammo, no modern weaponry, very few things they call ‘planes that the UK call ‘targets’ and best of all the army haven’t really got over being a bunch of cowards: unless they are bullying Uruguay.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TMBOA has done this to prevent all the Peronistas from being executed by their own armed forces, so The Dark Country will always be Peronist and screwed internationally, except for their ‘friends’, the Chin.
With friends like the Chin you don’t need any more enemies, although you have them: the whole world hates The Dark Country!
Ha, ha, ha.
@66
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not fair - all you posters think that 鼻孔 knows fuck nothing. But he knows 'fuck all'.
@68 lol
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#65 tobi have you that little pride to not even feel embarrassed of how childish you act? You really are young enough to suckle on momma's warmth.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe they have no military be they have a large enough and corrupt enough police force to evoke terror on the population.
#64 ? Light shining within? Is El Think consulting a proctologist? He never told anyone down legion…
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.... truly bizarre ....
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't believe I have read the whole thread.
...just bizarre. ..
72 il
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0bizarre, yes.
The Trolls will talk to each other before talking about the Defsult, CFK, or Putin.
Who does Argentina need to defend against? Intelligence for what?
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA and UK, most dangerous country in world. All nation must defend against nation that no have respect of sauvayreighnennthy.
But Argentina even when spend all money, not have military strong to defeat USA, etc. So better not spend any money, wish pray USA, UK raiders invade other country.
@ 74 Room101
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argies think that having an ‘intelligence’ department is the same as possessing intelligence themselves: that is how stupid they are.
Dear Christina and her mindset entourage.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Either have an armed force or dont.
They are people risking their lives with inadequate and beyond use kit. This is not fair on them. So make a decision CFK because they'll still be there to serve thier country long after you have buggered off with your stash of $ to some remote retreat in Venezuala.
Toby reminds me of the poor Polar Bear trapped in unhealthy conditions at the Mendoza Zoo.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Getting crazier and more depressed every day.
Except nobody is trying to rescue Toby
@75 Toby Chan
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China would be defeated in a military conflict with the western powers, so should China not follow Argentina's lead and trash there own military?
Two very different circumcision, more different one of another, this you know.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0China not sure would lose, that you say. Maybe not. But China have people, many people, and more technology each day, so one day we can invade, defeat west country together.
Argentina too small no chance, no matter how good economy become or how much money they spend. Why have military then? Spend money with hospital, school .
80. Argentina clearly has not spent the money they are saving on not equipping the military on schools, hospitals or other infrastructure.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0So does anyone ask what they are spending the money on?
The largest children's hospital in Buenos Aires had to stop surgeries due to lack of heat! Lack of HEAT!!
and the schools are in even worse shape
so again where's the money going???
USA not have veteran hospital people die, no money help veteran????
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0What excuse there “world superpower” so much money?
Chrissy met with her “top economic minds” I get the feeling they are misunderstanding what Griesa said, they're think since he said a default would be regrettable that means he won't let it happen.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0They're wrong. Its in their hands and if it happens he's done all he can and YES it would be regrettable.
These people are really not smart.
I wonder if they listen to any of their USA legal team? They must be horrific clients.
“”“”I am sorry mate. But even if we Chileans might be in a military position to annex you guys... currently with ease, this would turn out as a troyan horse. Due to mayority of your population (45 millions vs our 17 million), you would reelect the same people of your government into ours towards Santiago, and you would f*ck up my chilean nation and drag us down too.“”“”
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0best post ever ;-)
YB. How many names do you suppose tobi is using today? The boy has absolutely no dignity.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I change name at request of west country person to integrate with England country. Now you blame I?
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 081. Eventually most of the dollars that came to the country left as capital flight. However since the 1920 financial account has being negative in Argentina. But clearly these years have being record in Argentina.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈！！
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKuaICvIpRY
@83 They must be listening to their legal team... they advised to default. They won't do squat as long as there is a risk of triggering RUFO, as far as they are concerned it's not in their hands.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think it is time to change the name from Merco Press to Romper Room Daily.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0MP.......take control of your website before someone else does.
This thread has gotten really weird.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, in for a penny,in for a pound...
Argentina is no longer a realistic military threat to the peace-loving peoples of the Falkland Islands,yay I say.
Apart from “Hepatia/ British Bomber”
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and “Holdout from Germany”,
I think the paid trolls are gone - it's the 'desperately seeking attention' trolls that are left - the likes of Toby, ThinkVoice, and PaulCedron.
Did I forget anyone... ?
One can only speculate why, if this article reflects the true state of the Argentinian forces, the UK finds it necessary to maintain a military base in the South Atlantic. But the state of the Argentinian forces or the existence of the UK base is not relevant to the UK's impending return of the Malvinas.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will probably wait until the generation from the 70s and 80s is in hell before rearming. The last thing anyone wants is another coup.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#93
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One need not speculate, as the Argentinian govt. are duplicitous, then it behoves the UK govt. to cover ALL the bases and scenarios. Minimum required for defence with almost no offensive capability.
Is impending the new buzz word in place of your discredited ”25 years ?
I think we are looking at an impending troll-meggadon.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arf!
Not long until their internet links start dropping...
75 Alistair Nigel
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please can you explain
USA and UK, most dangerous country in world
Argentina even when spend all money, not have military strong to defeat USA
[ why do you want to fight the USA ]
, etc. So better not spend any money, wish pray USA, UK raiders invade other country
[-Why,, you imply both have invaded Argentina—and thus should go away and invade someone else.??-]
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@97
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just hope the doctor arrives soon. I expect he is self-harming by now.
Just stand clear, let the patient have some air!
Strange how things go from talking about a calamitous state of the armed forces to China vs. the West over Argentina. Wow! This is getting better than Hollywood! May be the people's from the inner earth will take over Buenos Aires ... Anything goes!
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#17 paulcedron... Paul Cedron...?? Doesn't sound very Amerindian?..which indigenous tribe do you come from? I have an interest in anthropology and South American history and that name sounds quite.....Spanish.
Jul 23rd, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 093 Hepatia (#)
Jul 24th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apart from they are called the FALKLAND ISLANDS. almost right
The reason is simple, the head of the Argy military has clearly stated the only thing stopping Argyland re-invading the Falklands is the overwhelming military presence.
Sure someone has the precise quote.
Simple really.
We got caught in '82 not prepared, we will not be caught again.
99.8% of the 92% or so who voted want the Falklands to remain a British Territory.
It's called democracy.
And this vote wasn't with polling stations surrounded by armed foreigners like in the Crimea.
The forces currently in the Falklands are there protecting the rights of the Peoples of the Falklands to have a Voice, I'm sure we all Think that is a worthy cause.
98 ilsen
Jul 24th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you may well be right, he has definably gone loco..lol
#101.
Jul 24th, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mercopress.com/2012/08/13/argentina-shows-off-jet-model-and-calls-on-uk-to-dialogue-on-falklands-sovereignty
Argentina’s minister of Defence called on the UK “to sit and dialogue” over the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty and warned that the British military presence in the South Atlantic “is the only element that upholds the usurpation of that part of our national territory”.
This about the 4th time I have had to remind the thickos WHY the UK
has to base some defensive forces in the Falklands.
It is because of belligerent statements like this.
@103
Jul 24th, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you Clyde15 for saving me the trouble.
Please keep posting this link!
Great news for each of Argentina's neighbors. Also excellent news for the Falkland Islands, and even for far, far away South Georgia!
Jul 25th, 2014 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
I have no doubt whatsoever that British forces in the Falklands will have to remain in place for the foreseeable future.
Jul 25th, 2014 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/07/22/calamitous-state-of-argentine-armed-forces-equipment#comment340659: Well either the Argentinian forces are completely incapable or otherwise. Plainly the UK DoD believe that they are capable.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0But the impending return of the Malvinas within the next 25 years is invariant on the state of the Argentine forces or the UK base.
@107
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0my unicorn agrees. She haz promised to marry her Griffin fiance in exactly 25 years too!
would you to be a bridesmaid?
I promise there will elves and trolls for you!
Hepatia, you are becoming as tiresome as that super idiot Who Flung Dung, who now calls itself Alastair Nigel.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pull your head out of your ass/arse & look around. Coffee might wash that foul taste out of your mouth.
ln short, sir/madam/thing, you are a blithering idiot.
ln 25 years, in all probability, Argentina may be just a distant memory.
And the Falklands will be the new power house of the South Atlantic.
@ 109 lsolde
Jul 26th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ln 25 years, in all probability, Argentina may be just a distant memory.
And the Falklands will be the new power house of the South Atlantic.”
But THAT is what worries them!
THEY think that but don't want to address it.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/07/22/calamitous-state-of-argentine-armed-forces-equipment#comment340953: Recursively, x < x - a : a > 0
Jul 26th, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#107
Jul 26th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think an impending strike on Argentina by a rogue asteroid is probably more likely.
107 Hepatia & British Bomber sock Troll
Jul 26th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But the impending return of the Malvinas within the next 25 years is invariant on the state of the Argentine forces or the UK base.”
What about the impending plague and dysentery within the 25 years in Argentina and Venezuela, from 'The Peoples Shortage of Loo Paper ', a National Cause, and the shortage of clean fresh water for proper hygiene.
Seems like none of you Brit neocons is paying attention.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now why would Argentina spend on Military when it has China to back her up and Russia....and really trolls!! why would Brazil invade Argentina or chile invate paraguay or Venezuela invade surnima or Uruguay invade chile or chile invade peru or peru invade sanfrancisco or san francisco invade panama or panama invade costa rica or costa rica invade DISNEYLAND!!! ummmmmmmmmm relax!! its summer !!
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0115 ASS
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget to wipe, and wash your hands!
oops, you won't be able to do that much longer...
#114
Jul 28th, 2014 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like you live in a parallel universe.
@ 117 Clyde15
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think it must be in a goldfish bowl given the length of 'her' attention span.
#115
Jul 28th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China and Russia to back up Argentina militarily ? Join Hep. in HER parallel universe where black is white and left is right.
China and Russia are both incapable of projecting military power across the globe. They have no serious 'reach'.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So unless anyone thinks they are going to start a nuclear war to backup their friends/vassals in Latin America, well, there won't be too much backup. Will there?
geez!
What happened to the 25 years, Hepatia?
Jul 28th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Finally realised just how ridiculous you sound?
Want to go for 50 years now? or 250 years, maybe?
Get real niña.
Galtieri's Junta spoke of Russian, or Soviet, help for Argentina in 1982, didn't they?
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0122
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was more than 25 years ago...
Lol!
Jul 29th, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0must be that magic-realism they are all so fond of. ...
No comments regarding the elephant in the room? You Brit neocons should realize that dullness is not a virtue.
Jul 29th, 2014 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0125 Hepatia
Jul 29th, 2014 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Elephant in the room” ???
Sorry, Hepatia/British Bomber
We are addressing it head on - you just don't like what you hear!
Your nation will not get the Fslklands - you are kidding yourself.
You have No legal claim
You have no Air Force that flies
You have no Navy that floats
You have friendship or social connection
You have nothing to offer
You have no friends to help you
You have no economic partners that trust you
You have no money.
You have hope for the next 25 years.
The Falklands will become economically independent very soon
The Falklands will become politically independent eventually
The Falklands will be freely associating with Britain
The Falklands will be supported by the UN in their right to self Determination
The Falklands will remain an excellent airport and refuelling base for UK Military and tourism and scientific expeditions in the South Atlantic and Antarctica.
The Falklanders will continue to celebrate their British roots, even while the grow closer to their neighbours, the Chileans.
Argentina will consume itself in the next 25 years unless the Peronists get the boot.
#125
Jul 29th, 2014 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Neither is hysterical chauvinism demonstrated daily from your Argentinian chums.
Neocons - that is an American term not readily undertstood or applicable to the UK.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/07/22/calamitous-state-of-argentine-armed-forces-equipment#comment341488y: Nope, wrong answer.
Jul 30th, 2014 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@128,
Jul 30th, 2014 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong answer, Hepatia / British Bomber
You can't decide whether you hate Neo Liberals or Neo Conservatives, an you???
You are full of Popularist Bullsh!t !!
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