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Controversy in Argentina over Malvinas invasion date: Macri will not attend any of the April 2 anniversary events

Thursday, March 31st 2016 - 22:41 UTC
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Malvinas veterans expressed great displeasure with the official announcement that Argentine president Mauricio Macri will not be attending any of the programmed events in different cities and provinces on the 34th anniversary of the Argentine April 2 invasion of the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, according to Buenos Aires media. Read full article

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  • LEPRecon

    Macri is at least showing some taste. Civilised people don't celebrate an invasion that started a war that cost nearly 1,000 people their lives.

    Civilised people COMMEMORATE the ending of wars, and remember those that made the supreme sacrifice.

    It's time for Argentina to grow up, accept that they started an ILLEGAL war, which they subsequently lost, and learn to live in peace with its neighbours.

    But they won't. Because they are childish, selfish, vicious, lying, thieving scum.

    Mar 31st, 2016 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    If Macri and his team get to hang around long enough... say 40 or 50 years .. you will gradually see the whole Malvinas thing slide out of sight.... he just has to humour people a little bit along the way... as he has done with the territorial waters thing.

    Mar 31st, 2016 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Macri has some ground to make up following the debacle of Easter weekend.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-response-to-argentinas-intention-to-extend-its-continental-shelf

    Mar 31st, 2016 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ,THE GREAT CAPITULATION
    READ ABT IT FIRST,

    The argentine and Spanish peoples will be celebrating today after the unexpected outcome of the EU demands on Britain today,

    The EU today has demanded that if the British parliament and government [who are conning the people]
    Vote to remain in the EU,
    The European council had demanded that the British government act upon two new treaties,
    1, the British government must and will hand over all overseas territory [bot]
    To the protection and lordship of the European Union,
    WWW.european treaties.com

    2, the British government will agree to compensate Spain and Argentina by way of the following- each country will receive one aircraft carrier, 12 F35s and one astute submarine to each of these countries as compensation for peace and future prosperity.
    And the total utter capitulation of Great Britain to its new overlords,
    WWW.capitulation.com

    This was received with applause and cheers from the conservative and labour MPs
    David Cameron will say, we are all in this together.
    ////
    Argentine president Mauricio Macri will say, this is a great day for the future of a brand new super power in the south Atlantic and the world’s newest Empire.

    signed and dated April 1st 2016

    Mar 31st, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Macri has decided to give Patagonia to the FALKLANDERS as they can run the province better than they can April 2016

    Mar 31st, 2016 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Loon

    So he has decided not to celebrate the start of a failed war and not parade around like a knob like all his predecessors did. Sounds like a reasonably balanced decision to me. I never did figure out why you would celebrate a war that you lost. It would be like the Germans having a national holiday on 1 September of each year to celebrate invading Poland.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    It never ceases to amaze me how quickly Argentina lost that war.

    Had they been practising quick capitulation, or does it just come naturally?

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    In other news, it looks as though there is a group of 30 or so argentos that went to the Falklands last week, who are stuck in Stanley. The LAN return flight to Río Gallegos was cancelled and of course Argentina won't send a plane there to rescue them. They got thrown out of their hotel lodging and they're evidently staying at the town hall on borrowed mattresses. According to the news in Argentina the LAN staff have refused to speak to the stranded passengers in Spanish (at least that is what is being reported). Film at 11.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    It never ceases to amaze them LOL

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    The idiotic junta thought the British wouldn't fight and then made a complete pigs ear of the war.
    apprantly marching up and down torturing teenage girls and applying hair oil do not make a professional military and shooting nuns doesnt work at improving marksmanship.
    The argentine military leadership were cowardly incompetents who neither had the Brains or Balls to back down when they realised their “clever” plan wasn't going to work and loads of men died instead but they didn't unfortunately.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    In other news the Germans are preparing celebratory events to remember their invasion of Poland

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejo

    Politically he can't avoid to ignore this event completely. Someone will be appointed to ofcially represent him.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @7

    http://www.infobae.com/2016/03/31/1801033-treinta-argentinos-quedaron-varados-las-islas-malvinas

    There's something funny about this story. If MPA was closed for weather reasons, then obviously Argentina couldn't send a plane to rescue them. But why throw them out of the hotel? What hotel declines 30 guests if it has room for them? Were there other bookings taking the rooms? Why wouldn't or couldn't the unfortunates just pay another night's stay? Were they expecting somebody else to cover for them? And isn't the airline supposed to cover hotel costs in the event of a cancellation?

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Macri, giving this ceremony the level of importance it deserves.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 1

    “Macri is at least showing some taste. Civilised people don't celebrate an invasion that started a war that cost nearly 1,000 people their lives.

    Civilised people COMMEMORATE the ending of wars, and remember those that made the supreme sacrifice.”

    x 100000000000000000000

    Enough said.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Hans - 12.
    They have been stranded here ever since last Sat- 6 days - you don't often carry spares cash for that many extra days accommodation and apparently they do not have any bank funds in Argentina to access .
    Not Airline,s fault at all. If airport is closed before a flight checks in then not airline,s responsibility. Airline only responsible if you are checked in and flight is effectively under way. eg Inbound passengers last Sat who had left Santiago enroute south to Punta Arenas are covered by Lan - but those due to check in and join the flight and board in Punta Arenas were not.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    I wonder whether Voice and Think will hold their own ceremony at Dunoon? After all they are dedicated Malvinistas both..

    Macri's got it right, time to drop the nonsense.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 12 and @ 15

    In a recent interview, they all said they ere very well treated by locals, that they were not having the hard time that some media reported, and that they only had a harsh time with some few folks (LADE employees who refused to speak spanish at them).
    Not a single complaint about the hotel manager.

    (in spanish: http://www.cadena3.com/contenido/2016/04/01/Un-grupo-de-30-argentinos-quedo-varado-en-las-Malvinas-160667.asp)

    Whether it is LADE´s fault or not, or if LADE must pay for the extra days, is a just an average consumer-n-transport issue.

    No need at all for them to be “rescued” from the FI.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Celebrating a war you not only started, but also lost makes no sense.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I wonder what the 20 YO 'veterans' do in all these celebrations?

    Stone some cars like they did at the Brits from the BBC who 'invaded. the south!

    Pitiful these 'veterans', all of them.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 19

    Let´s break things down:

    - the mob of retarded who stoned BBC´s cars was an isolated, shameful episode. British nationals traveling in Argentina are in no way attacked nor insulted. I think the BBC episode was a mixture of bad info and a failed prank that went too far, all properly exaggerated by everyone (the malvinist calling it a provocation or mockery towards KIA, the BBC presenting it as a close call, etc)

    - Every time there´s an official act / a military parade and there are actual veterans, they are highly respected and recognized by everybody there. People clap at them in a touching way.

    - the usual malvinist tends to be a guy who mixes nationalism, distorted history, and a ´romantic`view of what happened in 1982. They have a high esteem for actual veterans though, but IMO they tend to glorify the invasion as a display of utter nationalism and defense of the motherland. And yes, some of them keep the idiotic “we´ll be back” slogan.

    - As for the usual argentinian folk who spent his school years listening to the `malvinas argentinas´myth, they tend to believe those islands belong to argentina, but not in a frantic way. For example, the same people who were convinced of that during the 80s, when the war was still fresh, were the ones telling you “how important learning english was” at the same time. I don´t think they hold hate towards the UK, but a funny feeling. And no, they don´t spend every single day planning to re-invade the falklands, they only mention the islands this on april 2nd, and never again. It is a deeply ingrained feeling that they repeat as a reflex, but not beyond that. They are highly unaware of the british reasons to be there (I myself try to explain it to them, but few listen to me).

    At least, that is what I have experienced during these years.

    just my 2 cents.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    #17 It is LAN..........LADE is ancient history.

    #12 The hotelier, not unreasonably, required paying. They claimed to have no money (or refused to access it from home). Amazing that none of them has a credit card - they say. So they are living on charity and sleeping on the floor in the Town Hall. Another hotelier has let her guests stay on at half price. So a good number of Falkland Islanders are helping. No Argentines are helping. What does that tell you.

    Macri has made a difficult move, but his judgement is probably right. How can you take a country forward if you live in the past. If your principles are based on democracy and anti-corruption, why would you celebrate the actions of an illegal predecessor Government ? The Kirchners built a shrine. Macri has the job of building a country.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    @17
    Do you have a link to an English version?

    From the little I understand the 30 stranded are marathon runners?

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 21

    You are absolutely right, my fault.
    I stand corrected.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    A good call Mr Macri.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 22

    No, I am sorry. That is the only one I have so far, but it belongs to one of the largest media groups in Argentina (cadena3), with national coverage by radio, so it is not a tiny, isolated report.
    I found a link from BAHerald (http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/211740/30-argentine-athletes-stranded-on-malvinas) but it is not updated (so it keeps repeating the `bad story´ version)

    Yes, they are marathon runners.

    Regards.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    @25

    Thanks for the info.

    On the subject of Top Gear, the program is controversial in the UK .Clarkson takes the p&£s out of just about anywhere that is not the South of England.I doubt the number plate was intensional I wouldn't put it past Clarkson.

    Although I do find him amusing.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 26

    He is amusing indeed :D and I like the show.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    15
    Not Airlines fault...?
    Are you saying that they hadn't booked a return flight...?
    Is that possible to the islands...?

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pontefractious

    Macri has been following a gentle path in his intentional de-escalation of the Argentine claim over the Falkland Islands. He realizes that Argentina has to return to being a fully paid up member of the international community, behaving in accordance with best practices. Only by fully re-establishing trade and other forms of international cooperation can he rescue the country's economy and establish some kind of political stability. The Falkland Islands thing can only get in the way.
    His decision to miss the April 2nd commemoration is, however, a bump in that gentle path and may be ill-advised - yes, he has just won a resounding victory in congress where settlement of the hedge fund debt is concerned, but he still faces a lot of opposition in the country, there is an increasing segment of the population unhappy with him for abolishing their jobs, and the war (thanks to the loony Kirchners) is still a very live issue. Macri's excuse that he had to be out of the country for the security conference is not a bad one, but he still may regret his decision. Surely his speech writers could have come up with something that showed appropriate respect for those who died, while at the same time omitting the Kirchner-style rhetoric that made such events so distasteful. He is going to need lots of good publicity to make this one recede into the background.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    http://www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=7240&source=3

    FALKLANDS RESCUE STRANDED SOUTH AMERICAN PASSENGERS

    March 30, 2016 by J Brock (FINN)

    FALKLANDS RESCUE STRANDED SOUTH AMERICAN PASSENGERS

    Twenty-five foreign nationals are being provided emergency accommodation in Stanley Town Hall as a result of a weather cancelled LAN flight that could not pick them up for a flight home.

    According to FIG spokeswoman, Krysteen Ormond, the situation began when the delayed flight, for one reason or another did not come and stranded passengers, who had budgeted for a week, began to run out of money. Falklands’ small businesses, through no fault of their own could not afford to keep the 25 passengers for free so they sought help from the community.

    On Tuesday, FIG’s crisis response team then approached local charities to see how the 25 stranded passengers could be helped. Besides FIG accommodating them in the Town Hall, the Falklands Branch of the British Red Cross offered help with pastoral needs, IE to escort people if they need a doctor, and run various errands. The Lighthouse Seamen’s Centre have offered to provide the meals and catering for breakfast, Lunch and dinner as well as using the shower facilities at the Mission.

    According to passengers, interviewed by Liz Roberts from Falklands Radio, after the flight did not arrive for weather reasons, the company, LAN, refused to pay for accommodation because they were not checked in at the time the flight from Punta Arenas in Chile was delayed. For their passengers who are now stranded in Punta Arenas, Chile, the budget situations are the same.

    -----

    -- see link for rest of article -

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 30

    Thank you, hopefully MK8 will see it

    A wonderful attitude from the FI folks.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    They lost the bloody war ! Macri's right, what is there to comemorate ???

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    28 Voice.

    Standard Airline Procedure- you only become their responsibility to feed and accommodate AFTER you have checked in for your flight.

    Lan did not close the airport - the Airport Authority did - some hours before people needed to start checkin. Lan were ready to come later that night or the next day and so on.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    This sort of thing is way I hate airports!

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    The Falklanders should make sure their tourists have enough funds to cover unforeseen circumstances before they issue the travel visa.

    Argentinians are always embarrassing themselves.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    35- Immigration do - to cover the planned length of Stay and maybe a day or two extra! Nobody can be expected to foresee a 7 day delay in return flight though!

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    I doubt that Macri will be celebrating on June 14 either...

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    La Cretina had no problem whatsoever missing the AMIA memorial year after year. I think maybe she attended one that I can remember seeing. Nobody, absolutely nobody criticized her...

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @35 “ Argentinians are always embarrassing themselves.”

    And so embarrassed about being identified as Argentines that during foreign travel they insist that they are in fact Bolivians.....

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    The LAN employees didn't speak spanish 'at' them?... Maybe the local LAN employees don't speak spanish......

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    36. I still think they need to beef up what they require. You can't have Argys sleeping and begging on the streets.
    Like they do in their own country.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @40 The LAN employees are evidently chileno, and while what they espeak isn't exactly espanish, it's close enough for most argentos to eventually understand, ¿cachai? Except for when the LAN employees are obligated to speak English to passengers. (Fome, po).

    Being reported this way in Argentina:

    “ ... fuimos a pedir explicaciones a la oficina de la compañía, que es LAN, los empleados que son de nacionalidad chilena se niegan a hablarnos en español”.

    There was supposed to be a LAN flight out of the islands this afternoon with those passengers aboard.

    Now, you don't suppose that Argentina could stoop to maybe providing an airline link to the Falklands. Nah, too civilised a measure.

    Apr 01st, 2016 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Perhaps if Argentina didn't restrict flights then this wouldn't be an issue.

    Looks like some Argentineans are now on the receiving end of the economic sabotage their government has undertaken.

    Wonder how it feels? LOL

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @43 Skip

    Finally, we see an astute comment. Thank You Skip.

    Hopefully this maybe, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” (ref: Churchill, WWII).

    Perhaps, just maybe, we will see 'peace in our time'.

    One hopes....

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    42- You are not correct.There are NO Lan employees in the travel agency office in Stanley. It is and independent travel agency that just happens to also have the Lan Agency.
    To the best of my knowledge one lady is of Uruguyan origen and another 2 Islander ladies speaks reasonable Spanish - and that is it.

    What is being reported in places is just more Arg hype and myth and lies.

    Yes the delayed Lan flight from last Sat did finally operate this afternoon as the airport was opened.

    There will never be an Arg airlink for the simple reason to start one they would have to talk to and negotiate with F.I, Government Dept of Civil Aviation etc, As FI Govt is a myth and non existent to Arg Govt directives - they cannot talk to something g they say does not exist!

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @45 That is the way it was being reported here in Argentine media, and of course it didn't sound right. So thanks for the clarification. Naturally the visitors were whingeing to the Argentine media and they wanted to try to blame LAN in any way they could. Or as you say, Argie lies and myths.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    If Argys are going to an English speaking place they should learn English or find a maid or gardener to translate for them.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Apparently this time the visiting argento group was told that they were not permitted to take anything: no rocks, sand, and particularly no items could be removed from the battlefield areas. They were also evidently told that the islanders were particularly sensitive about the invasion date and the somewhat unwelcome presence of Argentines during that date, and they (the argentos) were notified that they must not conduct any sort of commemoration, showing of argento flags, provocations, or the like. At least that is part of the story popping up in local media.

    Apparently there was Argentine government money used in sending that group to the Falklands.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    To all the Anglo and Argie Turnips that commented over this fake news...:

    http://www.eldestapeweb.com/macri-homenajeo-ex-combatientes-malvinas-n16157

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejomartinez

    Really? Sorry to disagree with in-depth analysis and responsible reporting of Mercopress. President Macri did attend the ceremony. And he also reaffirmed Argentina's sovereignty rights over the islands. Same as Argentina's Foreign Minister. For the record!

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    “Esas islas en el Atlántico que nos traen todos estos recuerdos siguen siendo inexorablemente nuestras: nos esperan con una paciencia continental. Nosotros volveremos. Lo haremos siguiendo el camino que hoy conduce a las naciones del mundo, volveremos usando la fuerza del diálogo, la fuerza de la verdad y toda la fuerza de la justicia.”

    Mauricio Macri
    Presidente

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    la fuerza de la verdad They would not know this if it jumped up and bit them on their culo.

    y toda la fuerza de la justicia.” They had all the force of justice in 1982. They were kicked off the islands as pirates.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Truth, Justice and the American Way
    - Superman

    Not Macri.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    @51 Think. Rules are rules... “Comments must be in English” So take your funny foreign lingo and insert it into your fundament.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pontefractious

    @ 50/51 Macri is toeing the line here. Personally I think his speech writers could have toned it down a bit, but there is no doubt that the speech was for the loony local buggers and does not indicate that he plans an invasion any time soon.
    Of course suppose that what right now appears to be the impossible were actually to occur - suppose Argentina actually became politically and economically stable for, say, 100 years while the UK leaves Europe and descends into penury to a point that it can no longer support its overseas dependents. Now lets also suppose that Argentina has been courting the Falklands to the point that a significant number conclude that Argentina really has something to offer ?
    Nah !

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    All this cheap talk and mouthing commemorations from the safety of the unwillingness and inability to really do anything more than whinge. It is the complete and utter lack of anything nearing capability that keeps the argentos safely whimpering behind their breakwaters.

    No es lo mismo torear que ver los toros desde la barrera.

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (54)
    AndacantarleaGardelpapamoscas!

    Apr 02nd, 2016 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @57 What a “nabo” response!

    @58 Hepatitis - as we have stated in another thread - the UK will NOT cede the the Falkland archipelago within the next 100 years - if then!

    Apr 03rd, 2016 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • claudio_laplata

    The accuracy of the news is identical to the cruelty of the British soldiers who in 1833 stole the islands on behalf of “God knows that supernatural power = fat” haha

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    Macri attended to these events. Please, get your information straight good old penguin.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @60 Not to worry, Claudito. The Falklands have been British for bloody ages and will continue to be that way long after Argentina is absorbed by Paraguay.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • General.Ramon.Esperanza

    @60 Marti Llazo Problem is Britain and the rest of Europe has been pretty much conquered and pretty much turned into a Caliphate (or at least dealt a mortal blow) by the engineered mass immigration from the Middle East, courtesy of the the UN and the Feminazis of the New World Order. Proof is the recent visit of Obama to Buenos Aires in which he promised a very, very important ruling on the part of the UN in favour of Argentina over the sovereignity of the Malvinas. I'm afraid Britain has already gone to the dogs, unless the few British men that still have a pair stand up and vote in favour of Britain exiting the EU.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • James Marshall

    They are all coming out the woodwork aren't they. Did the department of 'Fairytales, legends and the Malvinas' get their new budget approved?

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @61
    The FALKLANDS are a BOT, please get your information correct.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    THEY ARE STILL TORTURED.
    After 34 years of the war, there are some very important things that many people still don't know, thanks to my investigations, i could know that the argentine army had a plan to invade the islands since 1955, which was renewed with the passage of time, that's why, the invasion of 1982 wasn't just an act of desperation of a criminal junta which was able to do anything to save the process from collapse, actualy with or without the war, the dictatorship wouldn't have lasted for so much time, because the social situation was deplorable, in fact, for 1982, we took six years of destruction of the productive sector, a few days before the 2nd of april, there was a huge industrial blackout, and a very big march, which was ferociously repressed by the junta.
    On the other hand, not many people know either that Galtieri wasn't responsable only for the stupid decision of invading the Malvinas, he had also a great responsability for the dissapearances of a lot of citizens in Santa Fe, when he was in charge of the second body of the army.
    There are still some sons of a bitch, who criticise our people for having celebrated in plaza de mayo, for what was finally a false recovery of our islands, however, all those cretins omit that the day that Galtieri spoke before the nation, he said that we had recovered the islands without any rancour, which was an absolute lie, beside, in that moment, there wasn't any freedom of press, the whole information that came from the islands, was distorted on behalf of the interests of the government, because all chanels were under the intervention of the junta, that's why our people couldn't know about the terrible abuses that many of our soldiers were suffering, untill they can get the justice they deserve, they'll be still tortured. In all these unforgetable years of kirchnerism, a lot of criminals who commited violations to human rights were judged and sentenced, but justice has still a very big debt with our war veterans.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Yes, Axel, your governments lied to you. Yes, Axel, your governments are corrupt. Yes, Axel, your governments are suicidally self-destructive. Yes, Axel, your country continues to select incompetents. Yes, Axel, your military is abusive and mistreats both its own and civilians and probably kittens and puppies and goldfish as well. Yes, Axel, your governments don't know well enough to leave the neighbours alone. No, Axel, no nos importa que vos sos el que vivís hablando boludeces.

    Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    There are some seriously mentally ill people down here. I guess the shit covered rocks in the atlantic are more a mental ward than a good ol´colony.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Mental illness: its capital is Argentina

    ....un 20% de la población tenía algún síntoma vinculado con la salud mental.”

    I would have thought the number to be higher, say, 98 percent. Perhaps their madness is just not yet diagnosed. It is certainly in evidence.

    Hence the need for sooooo many mental health professionals in Argentina:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/28/health/argentina-psychology-therapists/

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    @66 Axel

    I would be amazed if tha Argentine Army didn't have a plan in the 1940,s.
    I don't remember the book a read it in but the claim seemed credible.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @70 What you may remember are accounts of “neutral” (ha ha) Argentina conspiring with the Germans during WWII, in which German assistance to Argentina would include, in the event of the defeat of the Allies, the delivery of the Falklands to Argentina. The degree of cooperation between Argentina and the Nazis during WWII should be enough to justify formally including Argentina as a member of the Axis.

    Mercopiss even carried a few words on the topic a while ago

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/11/14/falklands-the-argentine-military-planned-invasion-during-world-war-ii

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    @71
    Thanks for the link,very interesting the use of the 2 ancient US built battleships.IIR they had about 10 12“ guns each,just the sort of firepower needed to defeat 30 a Royal Marines and farmers.

    The version I remember was probably in ”The Argentine fight for the Falklands ”by Martin Middlebrook.

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    It´s really funny talking about peace and democracy, a bloody country that invades and bombs other nations without interrumption for the last 20 years.

    Really guys, the irony is too much

    Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @73 Fortunately all that Argenistan can do is talk talk talk talk about invading the neighbours.

    They would be all the more annoying if they actually had the ability to do something more than sink defenceless fishing boats.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    Yes, because it´s so valuable to the future of humanity to be a military bully.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    Only thing stopping you from being a military bully is lack of capability.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @76 “ ......lack of capability....”

    Argentina's armed forces today are characterised by serious lack of capability: Lack of leadership. Lack of training. Lack of discipline. Lack of education. Lack of professionalism. Lack of experience. Lack of organisation. Lack of support by the population. Lack of will. Lack of facilities. Lack of materiél. Lack of domestic technology. Lack of funding.

    No lack of adolescent imagination, though.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @73 Luke

    “a bloody country that invades and bombs ”

    You don't have to worry, it isn't going to invade Argentina, it would bankrupt the UK trying to sort out the mess. As for bombing, that isn't going to happen either, unless you attack the Falklands first.

    Enjoy your siestas.....

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Lukie can't seem to comprehend that Argentina has no capability for force projection. No Army, no Navy, no Air Force, and no applicable technological or industrial capability to develop such capabilities. And no funding or other resources to even make a move in that direction. Likewise no interest on the part of the present government to even consider such wasteful measures when they can't even pay their debts now, which is why Argentina will soon be absorbed as just another minor province of Paraguay.

    Although arguably Argentina may have the ability to occasionally sink unarmed fishing boats.

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LukeDig

    Oh yes, so morally superior, so powerful, so honest

    Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    80. Might is right.
    Must be tough being a poor uneducated 3rd worlder thinking you are people.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @80 When it comes to honour or honesty, modern-day Argentistan is notably and undeniably short-changed and lacking.

    And after Venezuela, the most corrupt in all of the western hemisphere.

    Something all argentos can be proud of, being only the second most-corrupt.

    Apr 07th, 2016 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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