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Deutsche bank in danger zone: shares down 50% this year and sliding

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Shares in Deutsche Bank were down sharply after a report that the German government won’t intervene with U.S. officials who are pressing the bank to pay US$14 billion to settle an investigation into its sales of mortgage-backed securities. The bank’s shares closed down 7.5% at 10.55 Euros on Monday after the Friday report from Focus magazine. Read full article

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  • DemonTree

    @Terence Hill
    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/09/29/a-falklands-annual-event-chilean-independence-day-celebrations#comment450936

    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it follows it cannot be true”

    Find a source that actually says this. Nothing you have quoted so far says anything of the sort. It doesn't have to be in those exact words, but something similar.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    1 DemonTree
    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it follows it cannot be true”
    “Find a source that actually says this. Nothing you have quoted so far says anything of the sort. It doesn't have to be in those exact words, but something similar.”
    There is not an exact replication, but the statement for fills all the following requirements of deductive logic. Moreover, I cannot discover anything that refutes such a conclusion, more importantly neither can you. Otherwise, you would have so indicated.
    ”Philosophy Evaluative Terms and Concepts
    Supported: Applies to: Premises and conclusions
    Definition: A premise is supported when it is backed up by factual evidence/further argument (e.g. a sub-argument).
    A conclusion is supported if it follows a series of premises that guarantee its truth or at least make it more likely in the case of a non-deductive (e.g. an inductive) argument“ https://quizlet.com/27700266/philosophy-evaluative-terms-and-concepts-flash-cards/
    ”Conclusion
    The claim that an argument tries to establish as true; what the arguer is trying to prove to the audience. The conclusion is supported by the argument's premises.” https://quizlet.com/27700266/philosophy-evaluative-terms-and-concepts-flash-cards/

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @2 Terence Hill
    None of those quotes says anything at all similar to your statement.

    And I don't have to refute your claim. That would be shifting the burden of proof.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    3 DemonTree
    “None of those quotes says anything at all similar to your statement. And I don't have to refute your claim.”
    Thats correct, but neither those quotes do anything other than buttress my statement.
    Meanwhile, your unable to refute, the compellability of those that assert to prove. The truth of the statement “Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense. You've attempted an 'argument from ignorance' and a 'reductio ad absurdum', in attempting to shift the burden of proof to an irrelevant aspect of philosophy.
    So while I'm unable to meet my burden, my assertion may still be the correct one, since there in no evidence too the contrary.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @4 Terence Hill
    “So while I'm unable to meet my burden, my assertion may still be the correct one, since there in no evidence too the contrary.”

    This is what I have been arguing all along!

    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it may still be true.”

    This is what you have just stated, in direct contradiction to your previous claim.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    5 DemonTree
    “This is what I have been arguing all along!” “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it may still be true.” It only pertains to opinions, not to issues of fact. As they should be easily provable. The only likely reason for such a refusal, is the party knows it's not true. As in case of Jack, who continually acts in such a fashion.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @6 Terence Hill
    So since it was just an opinion, you no longer believe the below?

    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it follows it cannot be true”

    And you now agree with this:

    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it may be either true or false.”

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Not at all, I've clarified the issue, so engage in all the sophistry you wish. As my stand is perfectly clear.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @8
    You have clarified nothing.

    Do you still claim:

    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it follows it cannot be true”

    Yes or no?

    If yes, prove it. If no, just admit you were wrong. Everyone is wrong sometimes, it's only a problem if you can't admit it.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Your just whining and opining

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    It's a simple question, Terence. Yes or no?

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    9,11 DemonTree
    “So if its 'truth' is unsupported, then it follows it cannot be true” Certainly based on the following further required legal obligation. “.. Thus, who keeps silent consents; silence means consent; silent consent is same as expressed consent; consent by conduct is as good as expressed consent. This is an implied term in law....”
    SOMA'S DICTIONARY OF LATIN QUOTATIONS MAXIMS AND PHRASES
    A Compendium Of Latin Thought And Rhetorical Instruments For The Speaker Author And Legal Practitioner
    You have engaged in fraud twice, on the first occasion was misrepresenting what I had stated post #44. The second time was fraud by omission which I revealed at post #40 http://en.mercopress.com/2016/09/21/obama-blasts-those-who-build-walls-fuelled-by-nationalism-sectarian-hatred-and-economic-inequality#comment450924. Which is an admission that you don't have belief in your own position, and that your cause has no merit. Otherwise, why would you engage in such dishonesty?
    “No person ought to take advantage from his own wrong” http://en.mercopress.com/2016/09/21/obama-blasts-those-who-build-walls-fuelled-by-nationalism-sectarian-hatred-and-economic-inequality#comment450924.
    “..aut non auxilium capiat -Let no one be relieved or gain advantage by his own fraud. ... Thus, no one can make his legal position better in consequence of his own wrong” Soma's Dictionary Of Latin Quotations Maxims And Phrases

    Oct 05th, 2016 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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