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PM May admits “hard Brexit”: leaving EU does not mean retaining bits of membership

Monday, January 9th 2017 - 09:12 UTC
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British Prime Minister Theresa May seemingly reiterated her desire for a “hard Brexit” during an interview on Sky News on Sunday. She said that Britain is focusing on immigration control and that leaving the EU doesn't mean retaining bits of membership. Read full article

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  • Fidel_CasTroll

    And with this the UK prime minister has won the Lifetime Achievement Award from Captain Obvious.

    Or maybe she really was person number 7 billion to find out realize what the other 6,999,999,999 already knew.

    Doomed...

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • golfcronie

    Fidel, try again your post makes no sense.

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Englander

    Not sure why Fidel is so interested in UK affairs.
    In any event his opinions on any matter are irrelevant.

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • EscoSesDoidao

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDXti3cwig

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • ElaineB

    You have to wonder if the pensioners living abroad and demanding 'hard Brexit now!' are so thrilled at watching the value of their pensions drop at such an alarming rate?

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • ChrisR

    Pathological Liar EB
    “You have to wonder if the pensioners living abroad and demanding 'hard Brexit now!' are so thrilled at watching the value of their pensions drop at such an alarming rate?”

    So says the biggest liar on MP. She who flies first class and spends 25 Euros on a beef burger but has also admitted to being depressed about Brexit 'which is likely to take 10 years'.

    It will only take that length of time if this damnable John Major in a skirt keeps prevaricating about what to do.

    Does she have any plan hoe to handle Brexit, it doesn't seem so thus far, does it?

    Don't shed crocodile tears about people in my situation, A hard Brexit is worth it for the future welfare of the country and a good life free of the EU gangsters for my family.

    IF May ever gets a pair and makes a decision about A50 the Pound will rise and when the Canuck in the BoE goes back 'home' to his masters in the US it will soar.

    You and the rest of the Remoaners need to stop the bitching and get behind the country, I am sure your despair will disappear.

    Or is the EU one of the reasons you can fly first class? Worried the gravy train will stop, never to be replaced with another source of easy money? I bet it's something like that.

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • ElaineB

    @ Bat-shit Crazy ChrisR

    “She who flies first class and spends 25 Euros on a beef burger but has also admitted to being depressed about Brexit 'which is likely to take 10 years'.”

    I don't only fly First Class I also fly Club Class but the real question is why it bother you so much? Jealous, much? Neither have I even bought a beef burger let alone spent 25 Euros on one so that is a LIE. I did once tell a story of seeing burgers being sold for 55 Euros in Cannes but didn't say I bought one. Though I know you get confused.

    “It will only take that length of time if this damnable John Major in a skirt keeps prevaricating about what to do.”

    What? Who are you talking about?

    “Don't shed crocodile tears about people in my situation. A hard Brexit is worth it for the future welfare of the country and a good life free of the EU gangsters for my family.”

    I didn't mention you but since you admit you are being hit hard financially it couldn't happen to a more deserving person. How long until you are one of the stinking poor? And I doubt very much you care at all about the country or the family you abandoned.

    “IF May ever gets a pair and makes a decision about A50 the Pound will rise and when the Canuck in the BoE goes back 'home' to his masters in the US it will soar.”

    If Prime Minister May ever gets a pair of what? New shoes? The pound is very unlikely to rise on triggering Article 50. It fell again today because of her emphatic confirmation of leaving the EU completely. (Hard Brexit) Your faith in the pound rising or 'soaring' is misplaced because at the moment the best for the country is for it to remain low. Still, any overseas pensioners who kept their savings invested in the U.K. will be reaping the rewards. You didn't invest your 'considerable wealth' in Uruguay did you? Oh, dear.

    No need to worry about me, old fella, my work is not reliant on the EU in any way and for the record I have never been depressed about anything. My life is just peachy.

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Englander

    Sterling has declined and made life problematic for importers, expats and foreign travellers/holidaymakers.
    On the bright side however exports are booming and imports have slowed.
    FTSE is currently at its highest level in history giving pensions a boost.
    The property market in London has taken a hit but is that due to Brexit or Osborne's earlier attempts to cool London property down? Elsewhere property prices continue to rise.
    Will Expats living in places like Argentina, where the cost of living is so low compared to UK suffer that much?
    Interesting and possibly difficult times ahead but I have faith in Mrs May. I think she will prove to be an excellent Prime Minister for the UK.

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • ElaineB

    @ Englander

    The property market is moving with cash buyers from abroad taking advantage. They can snap up houses at bargain prices for them.

    Why do you mention Argentina? Generally, pensioners overseas are feeling the pinch, especially outside of the EU. They are affected by the exchange rate on both state and private pensions as one pensioner living in Uruguay has stated. I also agree that the cost of living in developing countries is considerable lower but that's why they moved there - it is within their limited budget so they are still affected by the falling pound; especially when it has fallen considerably.

    You are right about the FTSE being boosted by the low pound especially with multinationals company shares.

    I also agree we have some difficult times ahead. Uncertainty will remain for years, if not a decade and that instability causes problems. Like you, I have no issues with the current Prime Minster. She has been dealt a bloody awful hand and is playing it well so far.

    Jan 09th, 2017 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • ChrisR

    @ Pathological Liar EB

    This is a new approach, playing dumb are we?

    You don't know who 'John Major in a skirt is? Oh dear (as you are fond of writing but without sincerity.

    Being a bat-shit mad feminist I apologise to you in thinking you would understand what 'getting a pair' meant. The Blessed Margaret had a big pair and was envied by all the men in the cabinet and the Civil Service who only had small bollocks (testicles for your 'genteel' nature). It's May, idiot!

    Despite knowing the truth as to why we came here (and you not knowing any other white man living here) you just cannot pass up any opportunity to denigrate my wife and I can you?

    Anyway, you will keep up the mendacious attitude, it is of course another way of saying you are an inveterate liar. But we all know that, don't we?

    Perhaps you will die before Brexit takes place, we are all mortal you know. You keep on about wine and taking one glass too many and driving your car 'home' and that might be the end of you! Hopefully you won't kill a child or adult when you do it. You are clearly above the rest of us and fall into the risk factor, you know: the law doesn't apply to your class.

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • ElaineB

    Bat-shit Crazy ChrisR, you are rambling in the manner of people who live in bus stations.

    “The Blessed Margaret had a big pair and was envied by all the men”

    Really? Do you envy men's bollocks? I didn't know that was your thing, though it explains a lot. Why would a woman only be admired for having men's genitalia? Do you not think she can be admired without attributing male appendages to her?

    As your short-term memory is shot I will repeat again that calling someone a feminist is not an insult but a compliment. Many men are feminists too. The ones that don't hate or feel threatened by women.

    “you just cannot pass up any opportunity to denigrate my wife and I can you?”

    Not your wife, just you. You are a revolting person and deserve all you get. And for the record you told us you could not afford to live in Australia and had to move to Uruguay so what I said about you being financially strapped is true. In fact, you said you were prepared to make the sacrifice in this thread.

    “Perhaps you will die before Brexit takes place, we are all mortal you know. ”

    Maybe.

    “You keep on about wine and taking one glass too many and driving your car 'home' and that might be the end of you! Hopefully you won't kill a child or adult when you do it. You are clearly above the rest of us and fall into the risk factor, you know: the law doesn't apply to your class.”

    Well, well, This is an example of your LIES. I have never, ever spoken of drinking 'one too many' or drinking and driving. Not once. Because I never have. This is one of your more elaborate LIES about me for everyone to see. Do you not realise that everyone else here can read my posts and knows that is a complete LIE?

    For you information, should I wish to take a glass of wine, I have a driver to take me 'home'. Don't you?

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    EB

    “... you are rambling in the manner of people who live in bus stations”

    LOL

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • ElaineB

    @ Kanye

    Ha. Thanks. And he really is. What was that stream of consciousness rant about the wine all about? Not me that's for sure. Maybe he has had one too many already today.

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Voice

    Who started the EB/CR slagging match this time...?

    Is it private or can anyone join in...?
    I have a huge unused stock of insults left over from last year...
    For mosts occasions, plenty of Canadian, Southern English and the odd fat one, getting past their sell by date...
    Oh and a couple for Chronic, but he/she disappeared after I asked for a location pic...

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • ChrisR

    @ Pathological Liar EB
    “ I have a driver to take me 'home'. Don't you?”

    No, because I have not drunk alcohol since I was 30 YO.

    “Well, well, This is an example of your LIES. I have never, ever spoken of drinking 'one too many' or drinking and driving. Not once. Because I never have. This is one of your more elaborate LIES about me for everyone to see. Do you not realise that everyone else here can read my posts and knows that is a complete LIE?”

    Projecting again I see. I have never said that you have had a drink and have driven! What I said was this:
    “You keep on about wine and taking one glass too many and driving your car 'home' and that might be the end of you!”

    Let us disseminate this sentence for you without making more of it:
    “You keep on about wine” which you do, even when you claimed you are going to China you couldn't wait to make a comment about their new wines and were looking forward to trying them.

    “and taking one glass too many and driving your car 'home' and that might be the end of you!”

    THAT, is a plain statement of what happens to people who think drinking and driving on one or two glasses of wine is acceptable.

    You are the liar, you HAVE in the past imbibed alcohol and driven, everybody has, even me but I realised when one of my friends was killed by some idiot who had 'had a drink' that it wasn't worth the risk and I was 30 at the time.

    “Who started the EB/CR slagging match this time...?”

    Voice, I take it you know what pathological liars are and what they do to deflect, project and act mendaciously to the original poster just to make themselves look the innocent party?

    So who do you think started it? I detest liars and will not tolerate this pathetic example of a female lying about me. Call it a weakness, call it whatever you like.

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • ElaineB

    @ Bat-shit Crazy ChrisR

    You need to look at your sentence structure if that is really what you meant. You use 'and' which is used to connect words of the same part of speech. You should have broken the sentence to achieve the meaning you now claim. Though I am rather sure it is because you realise you look stupid.

    “You are the liar, you HAVE in the past imbibed alcohol and driven, everybody has, even me ”

    No I haven't, so YOU are the LIAR, but since you admit to drink/driving we can all see that your rambling was you projecting another of your many issues. YOU are the drunk driver by your own admission. Not everyone is as irresponsible as you.

    It is interesting that you thought driving drunk was O.K. until the age of 30 and until it affected you personally. Would you change your views on guns if someone close to you was shot by some idiot like you who thinks they can dispense justice according to their own prejudices?

    ““You keep on about wine” which you do, even when you claimed you are going to China you couldn't wait to make a comment about their new wines and were looking forward to trying them.”

    Another of your skewing facts to suit your need to LIE. I do not go on about wine. I said I want to visit China. I also said they are in the top ten producers of wine now. The discussion was about how China is developing and an interesting place to visit. That's all. The rest is your twisted mind. Why are you so obsessed with me?

    “I detest liars ”

    Yes, we can all see you are full of self-loathing.

    You forgot to tell us about your fascination with other men's bollocks. Is this connected to your hatred of women? Or you need to attach male genitalia to women before you can admire them? Are you only attracted to women if they are like men?

    By the way, drink or not, it is rather lovely to have your driver take you home at the end of the evening.

    Jan 10th, 2017 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Kanye

    EB,

    ChrisR seems to be an accomplished fellow.
    Perhaps against great adversity.

    However, apart from you being female, he seems to resent Class differences.

    Jan 11th, 2017 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @ Kanye

    He seems desperate for us to believe he is both successful and accomplished but there is no evidence to support that. His need to feel superior manifests in his pejorative language about others and probably stems from his fear of social inferiority. The man has more issues than the red top tabloids he loves to quote from and class is just another to add to the list..

    Jan 11th, 2017 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Englander

    “The property market is moving with cash buyers from abroad taking advantage. They can snap up houses at bargain prices for them.”
    London residential property is marking time. London Commercial property is still in demand.
    Residential property in Regions is doing well, though Scotland and Northern Ireland still struggling.
    “Why do you mention Argentina?”
    1)South American focus of Mercopress.
    2)Recent article on Mercopress mentioned low cost/standard of living in Argentina.

    'Generally, pensioners overseas are feeling the pinch, especially outside of the EU. They are affected by the exchange rate on both state and private pensions as one pensioner living in Uruguay has stated. I also agree that the cost of living in developing countries is considerable lower but that's why they moved there - it is within their limited budget so they are still affected by the falling pound; especially when it has fallen considerably.'
    I guess my point was they would still be able to manage.
    'You are right about the FTSE being boosted by the low pound especially with multinationals company shares.'
    Absolutely. My point was that UK pensions/funds are heavily invested in UK and US equities and that as a result pension pots have increased in value.
    'I also agree we have some difficult times ahead. Uncertainty will remain for years, if not a decade and that instability causes problems. Like you, I have no issues with the current Prime Minster. She has been dealt a bloody awful hand and is playing it well so far.'

    I don't know the basis for your 10 year estimate unless you are following the advice provided by the recently departed Ivan. Whatever I would hope the situation can be recovered well within that timescale. Ivan's replacement looks an altogether more impressive individual but we will have to see what happens.
    Mrs May is not as slick as Mr Cameron but I feel assured that she has the Country's best interests at heart. I regard her highly and believe she will do a good job.

    Jan 12th, 2017 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @ Englander

    South America is not just Argentina. You will be upsetting all the other SoAm countries. : ) Of course, they can manage. The point is that they settled there to make their pension stretch further and give them a better standard of living than they would have in their native country. A drop of 15% erodes the disposable income.

    Pension pots will increase in value as will individual investment accounts - depending on the investments - but it is the exchange rate that is more than eating away at any rises. You have already had one such pensioner confirming it in this thread. If you have investments and are living in the U.K. you will be seeing the benefits.

    I said uncertainty will remain for years, if not a decade. It is the uncertainty that causes the problems in the economy. No one knows what will happen and when that is the case people don't invest in business or expand or employ more people or spend in a way they would in stable times. You seem to place far too much hope in one man. It is all about trust and faith in the economy and that cannot be controlled by one man.

    @ Bat-shit Crazy ChrisR

    You seem to have disappeared without answering my questions. Are you hoping the thread will fall off the board? That is your usual ploy when you have been well and truly shown up. You do know that people don't forget. It is all there in the archives.

    Jan 12th, 2017 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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