MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Red Cross expected to explain how Falklands' Darwin cemetery pictures were taken
Controversy has erupted in Argentina following the release in Facebook of clandestine pictures from the current exhumation works at the Darwin Cemetery in the Falklands with the purpose of identifying the remains of Argentine combatants in at least 95 graves with tombstone reading, “Argentine soldier, known only to God”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf its someone that lives locally kick them out of the islands, we don't need people here that sneek around sending/taking photos and sending overseas.............shame on who ever, these are war graves and should be respected as such. The person should be named and shamed, should be very easy to find out who tok them by the amount of folks that are allowed out there....
Jul 19th, 2017 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse +2Seeing as it was someone from the islands who allegedly sent the pictures to Cantone, it is reasonable to assume that it was an Argentine interested in stirring up trouble. There are people who think that the process is being done to identify whether or not any war crimes were committed by the British. I find it hard to believe that any islander would be interested enough to take the time to get said pictures. The question is, who stands to gain from such a breach?
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse +7TWIMC
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse -7The INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS official position (and request) about the Darwin Cemetery pictures...:
-The photos from Darwin cemetery that have been appearing in some media in recent days were not taken or shared by the ICRC team, and were absolutely not authorized...
- THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS CONDEMNS THEIR DISSEMINATION...
- Out of respect for the families, WE CALL ON PEOPLE TO REFRAIN FROM SHARING THESE IMAGES...“
The Engrish response to the above official Red Cross request...:
...SEE PICTURES ABOVE...
”Well done”.., PenguinPress...
As I have written elsewhere- totally appalling and disrespectfull to the families of those men who fell in action in uniform.
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse +7Ultimatley the responsibility for the debacle must rest with the ICRC who are totally responsible for site security - or can arrange with others- eg Falklands or British Forces Police to maintain it for them if they could not.
Amazed ICRC did not impose from day 1 a total ban on visitors(we were told there would be) and a compulsory random search of employees each day as they arrive on site to ensure no cameras/mobiles etc.
Appreciate someone in ICRC management needs to take a series of photos as evidence for their confidential records - hope those are secure?
The Engrish response to the above official Red Cross request...:
Jul 19th, 2017 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse +7...SEE PICTURES ABOVE...
You seem to know the nationality of the person who published the pictures on Mercopress. Give us his name....no woolly ”Engrish turnip or squatter is acceptable.
Put up or shut up !
@Clyde15
Jul 19th, 2017 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Ignore his fake indignation, the same pictures are all over the Argentine press already, eg.
http://www.infobae.com/politica/2017/07/17/filtraron-fotos-de-la-exhumacion-de-soldados-argentinos-en-el-cementerio-de-malvinas/
I imagine that is the one the press agencies decided was acceptable to publish.
Given who published them, I imagine it was someone connected with Argentina who took the pictures. There can't be too many suspects surely?
TWIMC...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -6I can see that picture number one..., the one with an open grave with an aluminum ladder..., has been replaced...
Anyhow...
A non story misused by both sides...
How does one open a grave without opening a grave...?
Pull you self together................................................................ Turnips...!
Think, how are you sure that it is the FALKLANDS cemetery that the photo is of?
Jul 19th, 2017 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I Think of the question- Who is the Turnip?
Jul 19th, 2017 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Our side not misusing anything, just expressing disgust at what has been allowed to happen by the ICRC who should and could have taken measures either themselves or got other security folks in to prevent it- but clearly did not bother to. It was also of course made very clear last year that graves would have to be fully opened -nothing new there.
ICRC have actually let BOTH sides down.
Islander1...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Nope...
It is both sides that are letting the ICRC down...
And your own Penguin News publishing them pictures after the ICRC kindly asked them not to...
ICRC... Just four random letters for most people...
But not for the many millions saved by it during the past 150 years...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Gedenkstein-rotes-kreuz-1864.jpg
@Think
Jul 19th, 2017 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was there a different picture there when you posted, then? In that case I take it back, by the time I read the story they were what you can see now. At least whoever runs this site took it down again within a couple of hours.
Mr. DemonTree...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Of course there was a different picture there when I posted...
One could surely find it insome Web Cache........., if interested...
Think, If(I do not look at it) as you say Penguin News did indeed publish on their website or wherever, then I stand corrected and apologise as it makes them just as bad.
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is simply no need for anybody to publish these photos at all, anywhere.
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Islander1...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -2No sweat my Patagonian bro'...
(But...,) just to take the “IF” out of the equation...: http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/60020/0x0/darwin-icrc-july.jpg.
@Think
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why 'of course'? I would never have known if you hadn't said, and google's cache shows the same pictures as the current page.
The one you just posted doesn't seem particularly terrible, but I haven't seen the rest of the pictures so I don't know if people are over-reacting or not.
What do you mean doesn't seem terrible...?
Jul 19th, 2017 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The link doesn't work...
The requested URL /data/cache/noticias/60020/0x0/darwin-icrc-july.jpg. was not found on this server.
Mr. DemonTree...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Nothing “terrible” on any of those pictures...
Just the usual two belligerent sides acting stupidly...
As I wrote before... the ICRC has 150 years of experience with such...
Voice, you just need to delete the full stop off the end of the URL:
Jul 19th, 2017 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +1http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/60020/0x0/darwin-icrc-july.jpg
Think, who's acting stupidly? The governments who insisted on no photos being released, or the media who published them anyway?
Yeah thanks I see that now...
Jul 20th, 2017 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shallow graves no more than 3 foot and perpendicular to the headstone (cross) not a normal burial.
That should not have been posted it tells a lot...
Always knew that the Argentine would find something to complain about, they are insinuating that the ICRC are not complying with agreed procedures for the exhumation. If the ICRC let anyone visit the site more fool them. The Argentine are simply feigning hurt and insult for effect and make a non story into a PR attack at the Islands and the UK.
Jul 20th, 2017 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse +2You got that right Captain, anything to keep the “ Malvina myth alive ” Shock , horror.
Jul 20th, 2017 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse +1Only an Argie would stoop so low....
Jul 20th, 2017 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think-ICRC may be 150yrs - but they are the people who ballsed up big time here in allowing people to visit when nobody was supposed to(and failed to make sure they had no cameras)
Jul 20th, 2017 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and also failed to ensure non of their employees or subcontractors on site had a camera either. They are 100% to blame in this.
The whole thing is quite sad for me personally. I was ashore as part of the garrison in the late 80's and much effort was still being made to recover remains when I was there. I say remains because by the time I became involved there were no bodies as such being recovered. I'm not speculating here, I'm speaking from personal knowledge. Some of those graves were dug to take very little in the way of human remains and some of them, for that reason, are shallower than other, older, graves. I can only speak for myself but no matter how little was found efforts were made to identify as much about the individual as possible and respect was always given. It's a pity that the common humanity we felt at the time is now so clearly out of fashion among the next generation. If the actual details leak as these photos have then there are going to be some very upset families. I hope the lesson is learnt and the leaks end with these photos.
Jul 20th, 2017 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Looking at the picture I think there are least 2 graves visible. They were buried in the normal direction, they've just dug a big hole to get to more than one at once, and you can see crosses that have been moved out of the way in the background. The graves do seem kind of shallow though.
Jul 20th, 2017 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DoD
Jul 21st, 2017 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's interesting to read your post and it sounds like you had a stake in the work at Darwin so it's understandable you have such strong feelings for the inevitably upset families. I take my hat off to you for your heartfelt comments.
However do you recall boasting on here several years ago about your son being stationed at MPC and running amuck like a full blooded chip off the old block “improving the Falklands' gene pool” I think we're your words? You didn't demonstrate too much empathy for the families of young girls/ women when you posted that thoughtless muck. When I challenged you on it you told me not to take things so seriously. Sorry for being a spoiled sport but my daughter was in her late teens at the time and I found your post to be appalling.
Just in case you wonder why I play the ball. Which incidentally is the pot calling the kettle black in your case. You appalling turd.
;-)
Ah yes.. the Still Bennies story. That hasn't had an airing here for a while. If your parental skills are as sound as your logic you're doubtless the proud granddad of a veritable tribe of appalling feaces by now so I defer to your expertise in this area. It explains why I'm always feeling flushed these days.
Jul 21st, 2017 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeee...., Cmdr. McDod...
Jul 21st, 2017 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse -2Your first comment containing all that “Common Humanity” stuff had me worried for a sec...
Specially when half Bennie Jo Bloggs “took his hat off to you for your heartfelt comments.”...!
Your subsequent comment however..., clarified that you haven't gone totally soft with advancing age.........; yet.
Always wondered why you..., military folks..., can't show more of that “Common Humanity” BEFORE killing each other (and us civilians...)
Anyhow... It will be interesting now to see how King Lear of Malvinas (Jo Bloggs) keeps alive his risible supposition about you being a humble Patagonian dweller...
Regards from El Think..
Somewhere in Chubut, Argentina
I expect to get a stiff ignoring.
Jul 21st, 2017 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Regards from someone in Dover who is most certainly not the Earl of Kent.
A bit Earl of Kent you are..., lad...
Jul 21st, 2017 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You're blunt enough with your truths...;-)
At least an improvement over the normal Argentine custom of corpse-snatching.
Jul 21st, 2017 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DoD
Jul 21st, 2017 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I can well understand why someone like you would expect to be ignored. I mean you're hardly remarkable and you lack credibility to say the least and I have never for a moment thought you were a Patagonian dweller letlone a humble one. I'd say the chances that you live in Patagonian are about the same as Think's.
So..., you half Bennie....
Jul 21st, 2017 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Have you finally realised that Cmdr. McDod and El Think are two different persons...?
One small victory there, so we must bank it while we can.
Jul 21st, 2017 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1.... I'm alredy missing me “better pantomime horse half”?...;-)
Jul 21st, 2017 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Who... me...?
Jul 21st, 2017 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1:-))))))))))
Jul 21st, 2017 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Back off, it was me back in the 2012 pantomime season.
Jul 21st, 2017 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1http://en.mercopress.com/2012/11/26/falklands-march-10-11-referendum-a-democratic-exercise-of-self-determination/comments
Hold your horses Cmdr. McDod...
Jul 21st, 2017 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Mr.Voice has been excellent company on these killing turnip fields during your AWOL...
By the way... I always wanted to ask you...
Was it this Bernard yo met at that famous bar...?...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKQlQlQ6_pk
No, it was Blackadder IV, episode 1 Captain Cook. Tip top secret shared with my wife's tennis partner and a man called Bernard. Enjoy!
Jul 21st, 2017 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I remember that episode...!
Jul 21st, 2017 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Not one of cunning Baldrick's finest...
He didn't even mention his beloved turnips...
Pip..., pip...
So, if the Butler did it ... then he was an Argie?
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse +1http://adelanto24.com/2017/07/21/exclusivo-quien-y-como-filtro-las-fotos-de-las-exhumaciones-en-darwin/
Back to topic - word from the ICRC appears to confirm suspicions that photos were indeed taken by a visiting Argentine and he was assisted by one or two resident Argentines, and the name of the culprit will be passed to Buenos Aires so the response of the Arg Govt may be interesting.
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Yeahhhh...
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Back on topic...
Let the second “Reid” witch-hunt beginn...
Awww....
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -1My money was on the mini-digger operator....great shot of the FIC JCB...
TWIMC...
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1One got to luuuuuuuuv the innuendo Kelper Islander1 puts in his comments...:
《“ Photos were indeed taken by a visiting Argentine and he was assisted by one or two resident Argentines, ”》
How did the resident Argies“assist” the visiting Argie photograph..., I ask...?
Did all three of them push the Iphone photo button...?
Did all of them push the Whatsapp send button...?
How...?
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -1http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p247/sea1i0n/101%20artwork/2qvt8rb.jpg
Be serious..., lad...
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1As you can read by kelper Teaberry2..., kelper Islander1... and half bennie Jo Bloggs comments..., , we are dealing with a Tip Top serious situation here...!
Some Argie took some pictures of some topsoil removal... you know...
We can't have that........................ can we...?
Trying to play it all down a bit methinks? Some of the photos just happen to be taken showing down into open graves clearly showing the white polythene bags holding th remains of dead soldiers - some of us civilised folks call that more than just a tad disrespectfull to those men and their families.
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +2As for the 2 resident Argentines whose names appear in some Arg articles as well - the visitor needed a driver - he also had his entry perhaps made easier by the presence of the other one who had a permit to enter as he apparently is responsible for normal maintenances(but lost his driving licence some time ago-hence the 3rd person as driver).
But as I have always maintained- more fool the ICRC for allowing anyone at all other than their own vetted staff and contractors on site at all. Midwinter- no need for any routine maintenance and no need for visitors.
Trying to play it UP a bit methinks? So, you Falklandists..., that basically want the whole of Darwin cemetery flushed down the toilet all the way to Argentina..., feel offended by some pictures of some white polyethylene bags in some holes in the ground...?
Jul 22nd, 2017 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Good excuse to start a witch-hunt against all the Argies and Argie lovers in them windblown Islands..., I reckon... huhhh?...
One thing you radical Falklandists and the radical Malvinists have in common is your hypocrisy... You guys should hold a weekly smoko to coordinate it.... You could even meet at Reid's auld pub... the Victory...
By the way... Did you know that Reynaldo wasn't even a real Argie...?
Half Scot..., half Shilean he was...
RIP...
Think, you sound just like one would expect the spokesperson for the Arg Foreign Ministry will probably sound like as they try and sweep it all under the carpet as it was one of their own who did the deed, and tell the upset Arg families to shut it!
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse +1Can imagine the screaming from all over B.A. had it been a local from here instead!
By the way I was wrong in one- the caretaker apparently gave up that job a while back and was not out there.
35 yrs ago we missed the boat(literally) as then we could have just shipped them over in bodybags in a freezer container at the time your old Generals in charge refused to communicate with the British over what to do with your war dead. Trouble was being a humane lot we all agreed to give the poor buggers a decent burial here - and we have had to put up with the political flak and bullshit from Argentina and certain visiting Argentines ever since!
But no - it would indeed be inhumane and rightly bring us condemnation if we did so now - unless the families in question wanted it.
No witchunts over here - we are a pretty tolerant lot. There is an old expression- people cannot choose the land of their birth - but with some luck you can choose where you want to finally live and then die.
Mr Islander1...
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse -1You say...:
“No witchunts over here - we are a pretty tolerant lot.”
I say...
Easy to say for one that is clearly NOT at the receiving end...
Quite the opposite..., judging by your past comments...
A otro perro con ese hueso..., chay...
Think's first post on this thread was, of course, quite different to his latter ones when he'd realised an Argie had done the deed.
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Don't worry Think. We realise you have a job to do... and what an impossible job it is.
;-))
Geeeeeeee.... Jo Bloggs ain't ignoring us anymore guys...!
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Me dear half bennie..., all my posts above are fully consistent...
Penguinpress was THE ONLY “newsagency” publishing that picture...
And that was AFTER the ICRC asked them kindly not to... (I take my hat off to Mr. G.M. for promply correcting the zealous actions of his Falklandist Zealots...though)
By the way..., what job are you talking about...? Haven' have a remunerated one since before you became a parent...
And speaking about parenthood... That Bloggs girl of yours must be a young woman by now...
If she's on Tinder..., I could ask one of the grandsons to take over the task at which Cmdr. McDod's sons so evidently failed...
Chuckle..., chuckle...
Have a nice Sunday...
El Think...
Charming. Would these be the grandsons who were lately busy trashing Hamburg?
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +3And the contrast in your attitude towards releasing pictures of some white polyethylene bags at the bottom of a hole in the ground is quite striking, based on who is doing the releasing.
I rest my case ladies and gentlemen.
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Half bennie Jo Bloggs...
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -1As my Scottish financial advisor once told ya... :
“Do not take things sooooooooooooooooooo seriously. ”
Mr.Demontree...
You say...:
《“And the contrast in your attitude towards releasing pictures of some white polyethylene bags at the bottom of a hole in the ground is quite striking, based on who is doing the releasing.”》
I say...:
As far as can see..., (and Google)... there has been only one “Newsagency” publishing that kind of pictures...: PenguinPress...
How can you sense any “Contrast in my attitude”...??
About your question of which of me grandsons would be most suitable to improve the Malvinas' gene pool” ......
Well....
We live in modern times..., laddie...
I Think that is for the young lass to decide...
@Think
Jul 23rd, 2017 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +2If the pictures are no big deal, as you seem to be saying now, then it can't be that big a deal for Mercopress to put one online for an hour. Presumably it was a mistake since the picture was taken down again almost immediately.
As for your grandchildren, I can only hope they don't have such a dubious sense of humour as their grandfather.
If the cemetery were in Argentina where it belongs the Argentines could better police it.
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