Argentina downplays protest involving Chilean students Falklands’ visit
The Argentine consul in Punta Arenas downplayed the alleged repercussions of the recent trip of eight Chilean students to the Falkland Islands allegedly in the framework of a “written understanding” between the extreme south Chilean city council and Falklands authorities.
“There was no need for a formal claim from the Argentine embassy much less a meeting at ministerial level. An informal meeting was enough” said Argentine General Consul in Punta Arenas, Martin Rivolta who added “there was no phone call from the Embassy in Santiago to Punta Arenas mayor Vladimiro Mimica to protest the agreement between the British administration of Malvinas and local Chilean authorities”.
However La Prensa Austral, Punta Arenas main daily stands by its original report quoting a recording from the Argentine embassy in Santiago Press officer, Natacha Martínez who provided the information.
“The issue had strong repercussions in Argentine Tierra del Fuego, so the mayor called us. We had an informal meeting, based on our friendship, but with no intent at all of interfering with political relations”, underlined Consul Rivolta.
However in spite of the friendly phone calls and informal meeting the exchange trip of the eight Punta Arenas students who remained in the Falklands three weeks to polish their English and learn about the Islands’ culture, could have unexpected consequences.
Argentina under no circumstances can allow that Chile, via a city council, agrees to an understanding which could mean recognizing “the legality of a government in a territory under sovereignty dispute”.
Nevertheless Rivolta said that leaving aside the events and the understanding, “it is not the Argentine embassy’s business to protest before a city council of the host country, much less demand explanations, since that would inevitable harm bilateral relations”.
According to La Prensa Austral that is why Consul Rivolta approached mayor Mimica to downplay the whole event and its repercussions.
“I only asked him as a good friend what was going on, but there was never inconvenience, just surprise” said Rivolta who revealed that the mayor was taken back by the repercussions of the whole incident involving a students’ exchange program.
“It is a very sensitive issue; we can’t forget a lot of people were killed in a war (1982) and that calls from international organizations for Malvinas sovereignty talks between Argentina and the UK are constant”, pointed out Rivolta.
He also mentioned to mayor Mimica that his reference to the Islands as ‘Falklands’ instead of Malvinas caused an uproar, particularly in neighbouring Tierra del Fuego.
In fact, “mayor Mimica told me that for Argentina and Chile, at all times and in all circumstances they are the Malvinas Islands”, revealed Rivolta.
At the time the Chilean consul in Ushuaia Francisco Gomez Lira immediately reacted recalling Chile’s permanent recognition of Argentine sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands, but acknowledging that mistaking Falklands for Malvinas “was a regretful error and a major carelessness” from a city councillor.
This way the misunderstanding surrounding the Chilean students exchange program trip to the Falklands, --and the Argentine over-reaction--, has been overcome in friendly terms, described as “a careless blunder”
The trip took place June 5 and involved eight Punta Arenas students sponsored by Punta Arenas city government, LAN Chile and the British consulate.
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They really do seem to enjoy looking like dickheads
Yup !
Like i've said. Theres a difference between military and diplomatic allies.
As a consequence China decided to increase sanitary requirements for Argentine soy-oil, thus drastically cutting into trade volumes.
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China absorbs 70% of Argentine soy-oil (world’s leading exporter) and in 2009 imported the equivalent of four million tons.
However since the trade spat, China has ceased all purchases of soy-oil. ”
Every time Argentina screws with foreign trade it gets kicked in the nuts.......you would think they would learn
....... perhaps :-)
Yep...like the impending ban on food imports flagged for 1st June by the minister of something or other. ( Food workers wanted a big pay increase to cover inflation...easy fix... stop food imports..domestic price rises..companies can pay the wage increases... yep that will work). Aduana at the Brazilian border were already implementing the bans in May... CK summoned by Brazilian president... CK says she never said such a thing.. show it to us in writing etc etc...
Have you ever wondered why in all those photos of her with other heads of state she always has that shit-eating grin? I think its because she has just been told to eat shit...
What does BP have to do with the Falklands?
If you are meaning the Oil company, you have just discredited everything you have said and will say. BP is not involved in the exploration of hydrocarbons in the Falklands. FACT. And if they were, I am sure you are implying that there would be another BP disaster, how do you know this? I didnt realise BP had a consistent issue with oil spills all over the world, constantly. That is why BP is the 4th largest company in the world, because of its history of imcompetence.
I am sure you have no idea of this, but when an Oil Exploration Company applies for Oil Acreage Licences in the Falklands, the Falkland Islands Government requires a an Environmental Impact Statement, that demonstatres the oil company's techinical knowledge, physical and financial capability to explore safely. But because the existence of FIG hinders the Argentine “claim”, Argentina continues to ignores FIGs existence, so I guess you will keep producing incorrect statements. I hope you do too, I enjoy reading them. :)
Now, on this thread, so far, he has been borderline but I can tell that he is beginning to foam at the mouth. This is usually followed by wild, illiterate, ignorant, implausible, unintelligible comments and assertions that blame everyone else, no matter who, for the conspiracy against him and his country. Is this paranoia? Anxiety? Sexual repression? Schizophrenia? Who knows? He should be humoured. ................. No, the hell with it, it's so funny when he loses it.
Hi, gassy. Beginning to foam, are you? Be careful, spittle on your keyboard could cause a short. And we'd so miss you. Much better than the comic section.
School Teachers..... Headmasters..... Town mayors...... Province Governors...... Central Government......
Oh the Straits issue - I never did reply did I - try the clear wording of the treaty that was also lodged and filed at the UN. Its agaist the worrds of the bilateral treaty and thus also against the Un maritime Law which in the Straits area would operate on that treaty.
Interesting to see what Arg will do when sooner or later a ship tells them it is not an international nor valid requirement and sails on through - will you fire on and murder unarmed civilians? Perhaps a cruise liner?
Youngsters issue:
I presume that our man will stay at his office and let your young ones enjoy their reciprocal visit to Patagonia.
And that will hopefully be the end of this little cunning political scheme you organized.
Strait(s) issue:
No, you never replied because quite simply, you lied on record.
Your “clear wording” was clear enough! Thanks....
Shipping issue:
Working quite well without doing nothing .... Our focus seems to be now on Uruguay... That planted story on “el Pais” has open the issue at high level.
You really would like some dead civilians on a cruiser liner....Of course you do...Would serve you well...
Making other people die for you has become the basis of your existence.
Argentine aggresion caused the 1982 war,and will cause the next,dont get nasty think, the islands will stay British because of the deaths ,thats what you argies just dont get.
If the blood of British soldiers was the only Parameter in Politics, then Britain would still own most of the world......
Or Germany
What's the relevance?
Really boy.. I thought you were beginning to think....
1 Hoytred (#)
Jul 05th, 2010 - 05:40 am
It's not a political issue, for us it's not an issue at all.
2 Billy Hayes (#)
Jul 05th, 2010 - 02:06 pm
in 21 century is always a refreshing situation the image of the prince visiting his colonial enclaves.
god save the king!!
3 Argie (#)
Jul 05th, 2010 - 02:15 pm
King? Oops! The last male English sovereign was George VI. Let's hope that Will won't borrow Harry's Nazi costume...
4 Think (#)
Jul 05th, 2010 - 03:05 pm
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(3) Argie
Now that you mention the “N” word........
www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html
Enjoy'
You didn't pass 'debating 101 ' at school, did you, Think??
2) Billy Hayes is a Turk, I don't know where he is
3) Argie is a real Argie gentleman and he was responding to one of the many turnips with a “WWII card” issue.
4) Think (me) Participated in Argie's thread about the issue.
So ....Out of 4 “Bolivians” handpicked by yourself you only got 2 right!
50%.....That's the closest you have come to any truth until now.
You
You Americans really think that you can speak for everybody huhhh..
Should have a future in South American politics....
What Am I doing in Argentina if i dislike it so much?
Think about that, you American Besserwisser.
Every-time you Turnips in here don't know what to answer, you pull that WWII card.
Well it was a important part of our history,and it is used to demonstrate that a pissing little country such as Argentina is on a hiding to nothing if it thinks it can get the Falklands if we dont want to give them
now get back in your humpy
Well lads.......
The moment finally arrived...
My account has been “Regulated” (Closed:-)
Too much “Foul language I suppose???
After too many years with censorship in Argentina I don’t “think” it’s funny so..... ....
Let’s see if they delete this farewell!
(Sending this from a new account just to say good bye to the “intelligent ones”)
Take care
Why am I in Argentina..... I came for 3 months to do what would have taken 3 weeks in NZ. Unfortunately in 'the land of not quite right' you end up paying top dollar for second grade work, and delays feed on delays as you endeavour to get things done and then it is too late in the season to leave......
As time goes on you come to realise how ill managed the whole country is... its a shame... the people of Argentina deserve better.
I do not lie - I wouldnt say that you do either - you just belive in a string of porkys uttered regularily by Bueno Aires. The Straits issue is against what your country has signed up to and we all know it. It irritates a bit but is no real bother to us - the ship that went there from here was a bit large to make that a profitable run anyway. Much better this summer when a small Chilean company will probably run its own boat from Punta Arenas to the Falklands- and make a profit.
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