Friday, September 24th 2010 - 05:12 UTC

Uruguay marks distance from Argentina: UK does not come to plunder resources

Uruguayan president Jose Mujica marked distance from Argentina’s Cristina Kirchner and said that denying clearance to a Falkland Islands bound British destroyer to call in Montevideo was based on previous decisions on the issue and “not in a defence of interests against the UK”, reports the local daily Ultima Noticias.

Falklands’ bound HMS Gloucester remains at the heart of the controversy

“Hi Pepe, Pepe Mujica, president of Uruguay, I want to thank you in the name of all Argentines for your immense gesture on not allowing an English naval vessel from taking provisions and fuel in Uruguayan territory”, wrote Mrs Kirchner on Thursday in her Twitter.

“There is no such gesture”, replied Mujica to Cristina’s Twitter, adding that the decision denying HMS Gloucester authorization to enter Montevideo was decided based on “previous records on the issue”.

The decision was based on “what previous governments had done”, said Mujica while government sources underlined there’s no link “with a joint defence of the region”.

Mujica added he would adopt the same decision whenever “military issues and civilian issues get tangled up”.

Government sources said Uruguay “has very a good relation with the United Kingdom, but the criteria was adopted taking into account records and the current situation with the (Argentine) neighbours”.

Last Monday President Mujica informed the regular cabinet meeting that the decision regarding HMS Gloucester was adopted because Uruguay is intent in giving priority to bilateral relations with Argentina given a long agenda of pending issues, and following the several years long conflict over the construction of pulp mill which was only overcome a few weeks ago.

Mujica was forced to make a statement because the Montevideo press revealed that the Royal Navy South Atlantic patrol HMS Gloucester heading for the Falklands had been authorized to call in Montevideo for supplies and fuel, but a few hours before reaching Montevideo the clearance was withdrawn.

The Uruguayan president also admitted to have met privately with British ambassador Patrick Mullee to explain the decision arguing that “it was not intended to hamper the good relations and links between Uruguay and the UK”.

In her twitter message Mrs. Kirchner also indicated that” “I’ve read somewhere that you’ve explained to the British ambassador that you wanted to preserve good relations with Argentina. But I think that besides that, it’s a joint defence of the region because they (the British) also come to plunder our natural resources. Today is oil, tomorrow could be fisheries: Today is Argentina: Tomorrow it could be Uruguay or any other country of South America, wherever they, up there (in the northern hemisphere) are missing something and need to get hold of resources”.

But Uruguayan government sources were emphatic, “in no moment did we believe or do we believe that England comes to plunder our resources”.

Sources added that “several factors were taken into account for the decision” cancelling HMS Gloucester’s permission, and finally it was agreed with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to overlook “the bilateral relation with Argentina” since the reconstruction of links between both countries “is only beginning”, concludes the report.
 

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1 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:00 am Report abuse
English naval vessel
will they allow a scottish or welsh naval vessel in

What a Fecking clownLOL
2 Beef (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:06 am Report abuse
Whoops! CFK had an opportunity to make a mature response that should her ability to be an astute leader and she has blown it. Such a response makes her sound like Chavez, Mugabe or Ahmadinejad hence the president of Uruguay has distanced himself for those comments.

CFK has embarrassed herself and her proud country. Or perhaps she is trying to get more support for the 2011 election?
3 Hoytred (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:30 am Report abuse
“ ... given a long agenda of pending issues ..”

Just politics then ... and liable to change with the wind :-)
4 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:30 am Report abuse
Money talks….

The Gloucester did not get permission to call port in Uruguay.
The leaders of the region are taking the right decisions for their respective countries after deep and serious economical analysis.

As it should be………………………

“Denial of Services” to little “Malvinas bound business” by our regional partners will not affect all other kind of commercial military or diplomatic relationships with the UK.

Unless, of course, Great Britain chooses so…………….

Next strop Brazil :-)
5 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:32 am Report abuse
Hi Pepe, I want to thank you in the name of all Argentines for your immense gesture on not allowing an English naval vessel

How statesman like LOL
6 Hoytred (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:38 am Report abuse
Getting Brazil on board with this will cost Argentina a lot ... nothing is for free in this word Think, and I suspect you're reading too much into this. After all 2 ships refused access in 3 years ...... only 2 British ships called at Uruguay in 3 years ??
7 Beef (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:08 am Report abuse
Come on Think, you are a bright guy bur have just let yourself down!

Brazil - UK defense agreement gives access to BAE kit at a cut down price! What could Argentina offer? Nothing. Also Brazil sees future trade with the EU as more profitable than with Argentina. They will need support for certain member states and Spain and Portugal are in no economic shape to increase consumption! They will also need to hedge againt the Euro and will see an EU member who is not in the Eurozone as a very attractive option. More Brazilian companies will want easier access to the LSE!

Brazil hold the Aces over Argentina and you know it! Why didn't Argentina verbally castigate Brazil as a traitor when they allow RN and vessels connected with the oil industry to call into port?

Sorry think in terms of leverage Argentina knows it's place!
8 Typhoon (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:31 am Report abuse
Seems the Botox Queen likes to display her immaturity and paranoia to the world. With this she wants a seat on the Security Council? Argentina is displayed to the world as a petulant kiddie.

Now let us wonder. Will Uruguay get what it wants from Argentina? Will Argentina realise that it isn't actually calling the shots? If the Argentines get uppity, to whom will Uruguay turn for assistance?
9 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:39 am Report abuse
Next strop Brazil?

A Freudian slip methinks and an accurate summary of Argentine foreign policy. Like the protectionist measures against Brazilian products.
10 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:01 am Report abuse
(7) Come on Mr. Beef…………….

Do you mean that BAE will not trade weapons to Brazil because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of “Denial of Services” to all “Malvinas bound business” ???

Do you mean that the EU will stop economical links with Brazil because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of “Denial of Services” to all “Malvinas bound business” ???

Do you mean that the LSE will close its doors to Brazilian capital because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of “Denial of Services” to all “Malvinas bound business” ???

I ”Think” it is you, ”letting yourself down”, blended by your personal economic involvement in the British South-Atlantic oil adventure……

PS:
A little correction:
Brazil does not ”hold Aces over Argentina”……. Argentina is one of the many Aces in Brazil’s hand (and vice-versa :-)

And about your question:
”Why didn't Argentina verbally castigate Brazil as a traitor when they allow RN and vessels connected with the oil industry to call into port?”

I have noticed thay you like to spend considerable amounts of your time in here reading and debating the ”quality” material posted by “Avargas”, “Jorge” and similar…………
Sorry but…………….As much as you would like it, I have to tell you that they are not the official representatives of Argentina :-)
11 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:34 am Report abuse
@think
Do you mean that Brazilwill not trade weapons with BAEl because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of the Falklands

Do you mean that Brazil will stop economical links withthe EU because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of the Falklands

Do you mean that the LSE will close its doors to Brazilian capital because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of “the Falklands
12 Beef (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:41 am Report abuse
Problem is Think is that the FI are subject to a number of EU trade regulations! So any trade agreement would be default include the Islands and such an agreement would need the tacit nod of the UK. This would compel states under the agreement to engage in free trade without exclusion.
13 Idlehands (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:46 am Report abuse
First we stole your land
Then we stole your sons
Next we'll steal your oil
Soon we'll steal your souls

Have you considered investing in a burglar alarm?
14 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:58 am Report abuse
(12) Beef
That's your wishfull thinking, not reality.
Check the“ Malvinas” status in the EU webpage mate....
By the way............
Lets have a closer loook at this article we are commenting in:

”Uruguayan president Jose Mujica marked distance from Argentina’s Cristina Kirchner and said that denying clearance to a Falkland Islands bound British destroyer to call in Montevideo was based on previous decisions on the issue and “not in a defence of interests against the UK”, reports the local daily: ULTIMAS NOTICIAS”

Hmmm………”ULTIMAS NOTICIAS”…. Lets Google it…
www.ultimasnoticias.com.uy/prints/act04.html

Yeppp… The article is there but……….Who is ”ULTIMAS NOTICIAS” , curiously, the only Uruguayan ”Daily” reporting this ”News” ?…..

What does WikiP say?.....
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Altimas_Noticias_(Uruguay)
Ahhhh…. a newspaper owned by the: es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_de_la_Unificaci%C3%B3n

What is this “Church” called in English?:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church !!!

Hey Brits!!!
You are getting your information directly from the Moonies :-))))))))
Enjoy the “Free” Press :-)))))))))
15 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:24 am Report abuse
Lets try them one at a time Think

Do you mean that Brazilwill not trade weapons with BAE because of the ”quite insignificant issue” of the Falklands
16 Pheel (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:31 am Report abuse
Think, 14

Good research!

They could give “free news” and marry you in the same act!
All the threats come in the same combo: “Have a honey Moon”
:-)
17 Islander1 (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:44 am Report abuse
Think, please identify where the Islands are having issues of denial of services by other S American nations? Goods from 2 S American countries still arrive - and we have now added a third - hey we are doing BETTER actually!
As for her Ladyship - she has finally flipped and drunk from the same bottle as the Iranian guy! Mujica has even realised the danger and withdrawn a bit from her arms! Britain after oil? As you know very very well any oil(if any) is Islands oil in the first place and secondly Britain has stacks of proven reserves offshore herself!
Fish?- actually there are no UK vessels down here - they are mostly Spanish and from the Far East. Not many left on your side eaither as you overfished with little environmental control.
18 Hoytred (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:50 am Report abuse
So what are you saying Think?

That the article is only being reported in one newspaper and therefore it cannot be true? (although according to Google the original 'news' was only reported in 3 newspapers worldwide - Merco press, Momento 24 & the local Portsmouth newspaper).

Overall it rather seems as if the whole story is, in fact, no story at all!

And I'll make my earlier point again if I may, have only 2 British ships asked to moor up in Urugauyan waters in the last 3 years ?
19 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 11:05 am Report abuse
(17) Islander1

It has been fun until recently to communicate with you but………
I have to admit that your last 2-3 posts in which you deeply insult Don “Pepe” have really exasperated me…..............

Just want to tell you that ”el Pepe” has more moral fiber and courage in the dirt that hides under the nail of his little toe than you ever could dream of coming close to…..

Would not be surprised to learn that your biggest achievement in life has been to slurp 22 pints of beer under an hour in your favorite Stanley pub…..

Wishing you all the best………….
Turuluuuuuu
El Think
20 Pheel (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 11:10 am Report abuse
If El Pais don´t publish this kind of new, it´s difficult to believe the source. They should be eager to write something like this and have the means for notice of its existence.
21 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 11:26 am Report abuse
(18) Hoyt

As said many times before...............

The “Malvinas Issue” inflection point has been February 2010 where Great Britain revealed their true intentions in the South Atlantic by starting their unilateral oil prospection adventure.

We don't care if 2, 20 or 2.000 ships sailed through before.
We are moving forward and it is showing..............
22 Hoytred (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 11:32 am Report abuse
Hmmm ... you are something of an optimist I think, Think.

1 ship does not a 'policy' make, methinks.

As for Britain's 'true intentions' ? The current drilling is down to the FIG. Britain's long term 'intentions' lie much further south.

But we'll see .... will we not :-)
23 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 11:48 am Report abuse
Ah note the usual Think tactic of multiple ad hominem attacks and posting drivel to kill debate. No change there.
24 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 11:52 am Report abuse
(16) Pheel
Thanks………………….
And about your comment in the “49 million herd” thread……
You are not alone with the Yanks and the Brits.
I’m pretty sure that you will pull through this “critical moments”
You surely have what it takes……
Suerte

(22) Hoyt
As a matter of fact, I was one of the biggest pessimists (realists) until February 2010; when Great Britain pulled their own “Galtieri” :-)
25 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 12:12 pm Report abuse
when Great Britain pulled their own “Galtieri

30,000 people missing in Britain aint made the papers here
26 Hoytred (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
No longer a realist then ......... still 7 months is such a short time .... in everything except politics :-)
27 Pheel (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 12:24 pm Report abuse
24 Think
Thanks for the support
We proposed a Pepe Mugica-style plan in 2006, but we were dismissed.
Including a call for advisory from Pepe, then in Agricultural Minister.
Personally I worked loosing money during 3 years but standed still and now I have a prosperous year. Not the same for most of the farmers that had to sell the cattle, cos drought and economic policies. What Michael Porter should call a “Concentration Process”.
28 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 12:56 pm Report abuse
@21
We are moving forward and it is showing..............

en.mercopress.com/2010/02/17/falklands-drilling-will-go-ahead-despite-argentine-shipping-movement-decree

www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-24/rockhopper-shares-surge-on-higher-falkland-well-flow-estimate.html

www.virginholidayscruises.co.uk/holland-america-line-ms-veendam-falkland-islands-19-nights-february-2011-0097616-holiday.php

Outstanding think :-)
29 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 01:26 pm Report abuse
(26) Hoyt
On the contrary dear chap, on the contrary……
After that wonderful and unexpected British “own goal, I became a ” South-American Magic Realism” devotee……

(27)Pheel
De nada…………
Ideas against this “productive land concentration process” you mention are rumbling in Uruguay and Brazil.
Would be nice if it was introduced as a serious political goal of Mercosur……
Just day-dreaming……..
30 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
Think,

Argentina's sole success is successfully planting the story this is the result of the British Government, we know it isn't its down to the FIG moving foward under agreements reached in 1997 that Argentina UNILATERALLY withdrew from and so stem from the UNILATERAL actions of Argentina. Since as usual you have to base everything on being economical with the truth., its incumbent to point out that its all down to UNILATERAL actions by Argentina.

As usual there will be lots of hot air and nothing much will change.
31 Hoytred (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
What own goal?

The Falkland Islanders exploiting their own oil?

And you think that'll make any difference? That's not realism Think. That's just fantasy :-)
32 Beef (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
An Own Goal? With RKH sp at £5 then I would like to score such own goals on a regular occasion. I would be careful with your optimism Think! You were optimistic that Sea Lion wouldn't flow, whoops!

How much recoverable do you think will actually be in Sea Lion? The further info this morning has indicated flow rates that will be in excess of 4000 bpd. Sea Lion will be cheap to extract which further supports commerciality. All we need now is the updated volume data - significant upside potential!

Please explain why this is an own goal? Because it is a hell of a profitable one.
33 mastershakejb (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 03:46 pm Report abuse
lol @ all these ridiculous speculation comments ^
34 M_of_FI (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:06 pm Report abuse
Think, you completely discredit yourself when you say that Britain unilaterally decided and took action to exploit the resources of the Falklands. You are basing this on what your government is preaching, which is incorrect. I have been to the Mineral Resources Department on Ross Road, Stanley, I have worked with people who are employed by Mineral Resources, they are the ones who issue the oil licences in the Falklands. I know this for a fact. When you say that Britain decided unilaterally etc, you are wrong. I base my knowledge on what I have seen and my working experience, you base yours own your corrupt government, who are just speculating, they do not know what they say as fact. And you will continue to discredit yourself if you keep claiming that Britain took unilateral action. Please stick to the facts.
35 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
(34) Mofi

The fact is that, what you call the “FIG” is for all practical purposes a “Nonentity” created by Great Britain to try to circumvent international law.......

Thinking about it…….., the name is quite appropriate…. …..FIG……
A FIG leaf to conceal the grim Brutish “organ” behind……
36 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
The fact is that, what you call the “FIG” is for all practical purposes a “Nonentity” created by Great Britain to try to circumvent international law.......

Well this Nonentity aint doing too bad

www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html

In fact they are considerably richer than you
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHo2pXO_XAI
soon to become richer
37 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
:-)))))))
Thanks..... I love British humor...... Niiiiice youtube video..... Best gag at 3':20''
38 Billy Hayes (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
Perhaps if MoFi instead of talking nonsense read his constitution (written in London & unvoted by kelpers) he will realize that the head of FIG is the unvoted british colonial governor, who has crucial veto & political power.
So if you read carefully your contitution (books don´t bite) you will find that Mr.Think is right, FIG is only a mask to hide the british colonialist power over a foreign southamerican territory, using kelpers as an excuse to sustain such presence in an alien region 14k miles away from home.

Rule britania rule www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/3151008/Youve-shrunk-brour-battleships.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Our+Boys
39 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
Yep we Brits can laugh at ourselves,I like the Argies sense of humour in thinking the Falklands belong to them :-)
40 Islander1 (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:11 pm Report abuse
Think - wow have I upset you! His behaviour over this was that of a little man who was scared - if he had balls he would have turned down the ship,s request when it was first made. Beer - maybe a pint a week if that! never had 22 in a night - well maybe once or twice in far off long gone student days at College- cant remember! As for achievements - well I,m happy enough with the business I,ve built up from scratch,and proud of my record as an islander. Still happy to be in the debate as well.
41 Typhoon (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
For all real English speakers, I reckon I've sussed this. Twinky is actually an Argentine government nark!
No-one else could spend so much time here. This is his job.
42 Ale (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
Interesting article Billy
I like this part:
'Our revelation comes as the row with Argentina over a hunt for oil in the Falklands is expected to be raised by the Argies in the UN in New York today'

A source said: “The money men have forgotten we're an island nation with 90 per cent of our trade going by sea. And we have the additional tasks now of chasing pirates and counter-terrorism. The Navy has never been busier.”
Chasing themselves? (joke)

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/3151008/Youve-shrunk-brour-battleships.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Our+Boys
43 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 07:49 pm Report abuse
I see you use the Sun for your research

www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/gotcha1.htm
44 Ale (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:13 pm Report abuse
Mr Stick, Did you read some of the comments below the article?
“Lets be honest there isn't a great deal worth defending now anyway, over run with immigrants, ruled by Brussels, taxed to the hilt, massive unemployment, overcrowded....

”In the case of an emergency the government would probably bring in immediate conscription and send out a sea task force in rowing boats...
45 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
Ale
If it makes you feel better good on ya,must be galling to have a such a country ablel to nick your oil from under your nose :-)
46 Ale (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
Pumping oil is easy, no available harbors nearby to transport the load to priceless
:-)
47 Billy Hayes (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
congrats mr.stink; you are starting to understand the situation; I hope you keep in this way saying that the oil belongs to argentina; sometines is better to say the truth instead of repeating a lie nobody can believe hurting your reputation.
48 Astute (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
@Ale, do you actually think a newspaper will have a look at a secret document which has not even finished yet? In which I believe the Prime-minister hasn't even seen yet. It isn't right, as of 2010 we have 15 frigates and 6 destroyers and 3 aircraft carriers, so I don't know where the Sun is getting it's information from. also if you read the article it says “The drastic cuts are being CONSIDERED”.

But to be honest it is just speculation to make us (the British public) to try and stop these cuts, by voicing our concerns. Or it is just making us ready for cuts by making them seem worse than they actually are.
49 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
saying that the oil belongs to argentina

Clearly it dont, just winding you up and doing a grand job :-)
50 Ale (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:42 pm Report abuse
;-)
51 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:47 pm Report abuse
Argie welcomes immigrants
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_miseria

Brits welcomes immigrants
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-484632/10-000-council-houses-given-immigrants-year.html

when the oil money comes in we can take more
52 Billy Hayes (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
ufff, what´s wrong with you mr.stink, you are in dangerous waters?, first you said that oil belongs to argentina and now you say that with malvinas oil money you are happy that britain will build homes for muslims inmigrants...I´m waiting for kelpers to say what they think about you...it´s friday noon I hope they are not so much drunk if not that won´t be nice
53 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
Me drunk? how dare you
next you will be saying the Falklands belong to Argentina
54 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
(53) Billy Hayes

Saturday evening in idyllic Stanley…….
The air is thick with the smell of friendly acrimony between the Bennies and the Whennies.
An impolite remark about each others drag dress can quickly get the ethylic imprecise punches flying……
Luckily, the small but efficient Malvinas police force of about 30 constables is always somewhere close by………………

Cheers
55 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
Think,

There are 9 Constables, there is naff all crime.,

But I do note the tactic of posting crap has distracted from the subject, showing how ineffective Argentina's policies that you trumpet so much are.

Carry on, pissing in the wind.
56 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
Buenos Aires finest

In the thousands, the Buenos Aires police have been implicated in crimes spanning decades, ranging from petty theft, to political intimidation, to murder. These transgressions by formula have been executed with brazen impunity from any consequences from the provincial governor, Felipe Solá, and other political bosses who have traditionally wielded convincing influence over the force.
57 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
(56) Stick
You did it again...... You quote yet another quality article that describes Nestor Kirchner and his policies correctly.

www.coha.org/argentina%E2%80%99s-corrupt-police-force-casts-cloud-over-the-kirchner-presidency-some-high-level-politicians-tied-to-police-corruption/

Hey man, with enemies like you... who needs friends :-)
58 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
Physician heal thyself
en.mercopress.com/2010/05/03/corruption-claims-in-argentine-venezuelan-trade-involve-nestor-kirchner
59 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
Finnaly you troop with an article that is not eight years old............. but then is only about a corruption CLAIM???
60 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
no smoke without fire :-)
61 Think (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
Woooow
Impressive and original.
62 stick up your junta (#) Sep 24th, 2010 - 10:36 pm Report abuse
Originality is the essence of true scholarship
63 Ant (#) Sep 25th, 2010 - 01:56 am Report abuse
Lo que importa de este articulo es que Uruguay se solidarizo con el reclamo Argentino sobre las Islas, y no dejo que un barco Militar Ingles usara sus puertos. ¿cual es la diferncia si fueron desiciones anteriores?, el barco no atraco ni van atracar en el futuro. Uruguay y Argentina pueblos hermanos siempre.

What matters is that this article Uruguay is sympathize with the Argentine claim over the islands, and do not let an English military ship use its ports. What is the diferncias if they were previous decisions?, The ship will not dock or dock in the future. Uruguay and Argentina always fraternal peoples.
64 Hoytred (#) Sep 25th, 2010 - 04:13 am Report abuse
But do they sympathise?

Or could it be:
a) they want a bargaining chip in future negotiations with Argentina over the outstanding issues between the two countries; or
b) they are under pressure by their bigger and bullying neighbour ?

The latter has some creedence because of the reported apology and the 'explanation' to the British Embassy.
65 Typhoon (#) Sep 25th, 2010 - 12:29 pm Report abuse
@63 I don't see anything in the article to suggest that Uruguay sympathises with Argentina on the matter of the Falkland Islands. Rather the contrary actually.
66 Raul (#) Sep 25th, 2010 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
I coincide with 63 Ant: as the world you interioriza of the conflicts of Malvinas is very Ovio that the governments come with a lot of pleasure the I claim of the sovereignty of Argentina, today's of Uruguay solidarity and of Brazil in the making and everybody later, leave with clarity that the I claim it is very fair. It is evident that they attend the Argentina historical, geographical and economic arguments. A colony maintained to the force for more than 14.000 kilometers with a transplanted population is more than evident, and it doesn't resist the smallest analysis.
67 Typhoon (#) Sep 25th, 2010 - 02:59 pm Report abuse
Look, sonny. If you can't manage English, go somewhere else. But here's a bit of advice. Repeating virtually the same words on more than one thread is considered to be spamming and will get you reported.
68 Hoytred (#) Sep 26th, 2010 - 12:12 am Report abuse
No idea what you're talking about Raul ... you use a lot of english words, but possibly in all the wrong places :-)

Now it's been a couple of days since this article appeared and Think insinuated that it was a lie as only one, sect orientated, newspaper had reported on it. So now, can anyone tell me whether there have been any official denials regarding this story???
69 Ant (#) Sep 26th, 2010 - 12:54 am Report abuse
64 Hoytred (#) .........Pero, ¿ simpatiza ?
yes! ..... Si! ..........oui!
70 Hoytred (#) Sep 26th, 2010 - 02:03 am Report abuse
No Ant .... try english :-)

Although in this case I get the gist.

So what is your opinion founded upon? The article above would suggest otherwise!
71 Wireless (#) Sep 26th, 2010 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
No. Trying isn't good enough, if it isn't recognisable English then report it to the Editor for removal, since all posts have to be in English.
72 briton (#) Sep 26th, 2010 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
all that really matters to Argentina is. When the shit hits the fan] who will back them against the British forces. out of approx 199 countries in the world i doubt if less that 5 would back her in voicing their opinion.
But less that one would back her with military help.
so the result stands, the islands will remain British until the Falklanders decide otherwise, and as for Argentina, there is NOTHING they can do about it, except shout scream and CRY, oh dear what an embarrassment to them lolol
73 Be serious (#) Sep 27th, 2010 - 11:54 am Report abuse
Whilst I regret Uruguay's decision not to allow the Royal Naval vessel to enter port, I do respect their explanation and feel their determination not to be bullied or drawn into this dispute by Argentina shows great maturity. Likewise I trust the Argentinian people understand that the British people are determined to stand by the Islanders for as long as they choose to remain free, democratic and independent.
74 Rhaurie-Craughwell (#) Sep 27th, 2010 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
A pathetic comment by Kirchener that shows her for the stupid ignorant president she is.

Unfortunaly Cameron and others are far to dignified to sink to her level and blast her comments for the silly infantile garbage that is expected of 12 years old not heads of states.

Pity because I reckon a very vicious retort likening Argentina's attitude to that of a 19th century imperialistic inavder would put her on teh backfoot.
75 Ocampo_Andres (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
So.. as I was saying in Article: Argentine blockade expected to boost Falklands fishing industry local activities

All my posts are being deleted, posts without any foul language. Editor? Are we having a bad day?
76 Pheel (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 04:31 pm Report abuse
Talking about LIES...the title has been confirmed nowhere, only in the Moonworld.

The difference between a PPRR campaign and Prropaganda.

Benign or malign lie?
77 Think (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
THIMC

Talking about the ”Moon Church” and the ”Moonies”…..

If you read carefully you will notice that quite a few ”News” in here originate from UPI…

UPI stands for ”United Press International” and, in my youth, it was one of the best News Agencies of the world.

But things have apparently changed quite a bit….

Guess who owns UPI today……. Jeppp…. The Moon Church…………

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Press_International
78 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 06:59 pm Report abuse
Think, do you still have their CEO name and number?
79 Think (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 07:57 pm Report abuse
(78) Marcos Alejandro
Mate……
Take a deep breath…. Read the article below (and my comment) and relax…..
en.mercopress.com/2010/09/28/mujica-rejects-nationalization-preaches-orthodox-economics-and-praises-the-media
80 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
Think, I am not in favor of censorship or against free press, we suffered that for a number of years. What I am against is special interest groups that use fake newspaper to spread their lies Early this afternoon in another add, now comments are not allowed, I was writing in my poor english, by force, about the strange location of this news agency. No insults or any bad language was used, at the same time the editor was removing all my comments and Ocampo comments also, Mr Zhetee was a witness of this action. So is ok censorship by MercoPress when we raise some legitimate questions?
81 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
You did not raise legitimate questions, you were threatening to bring in a bunch of Argentines to flood the site. I don't blame Mercopress for one second for deleting your posts.

At the end of the day, its their site, their rules. You either respect that or go elsewhere. True to type you claim censorship, when what you were trying to do was censor the site for neutral reporting instead of favouring Argentina.
82 stick up your junta (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
What I am against is special interest groups that use fake newspaper to spread their lies

Spreading lies like this
en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Future_of_the_Falkland_Islands_and_Its_People#The_Falklands_Will_Never_Be_Argentine

Vote with your feet,Marcos Alejandro
83 Think (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
(80) Marcos Alejandro

I don’t know what happened this afternoon, but by reading comment (81) I know what didn’t happen…,..
Mr JustinKuntz is so warped that if he said good morning to me I would go to bed, being sure that it is late in the evening…..:-)
But…. I can recycle four of his words: “ Their site, their rules”.
Don’t expect any kind of of fairness , neutrality or ”old journalistic morality” in here…….
84 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
Ah yes Think. always the ad hominem attack, you can really on Think for that. Spiteful, vindictive, liar, fraud, thats our Think. Scared of anyone who can expose him for being a liar and fraud, he has to resort to smears an innuendo.

Sad, lonely, scared little man and apparently by his own admission a pillock.

Mercopress were more than fair to you, you're still spiteful, vindictive, a liar and a fraud in return.
85 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
83 Think , Thank you for you response. “Don’t expect any kind of of fairness , neutrality or ”old journalistic morality” in here…….” I realize that. The new and improved...

Justin Kuntz? Who the hell are you?Ahhhhh yes the grandson of a Basque refugee(Guernica), you live in far away and boring Glasgow, drinks heavily and claim that he served in the British navy and he gets his rear end kicked in Wikipedia all the time.
86 stick up your junta (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
Don’t expect any kind of of fairness , neutrality or ”old journalistic morality” in here…….

I seem to recall they were FAIR enough to allow you to post again,after you ban.
87 Kate (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 10:06 pm Report abuse
Hi stickie
88 stick up your junta (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
Hi Kate

This is a malign, arrogant, macho-type lie because it propounds a
policy of confrontation that, if implemented, would be dreadfully
costly to Argentina herself, and would never succeed in recovering
what was lost as far back as 1833, and which the war of 1982 made
irrecoverable.
89 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 10:50 pm Report abuse
www.google.co.uk/search?q=Justin+Kuntz+site:www.malvinense.com.ar/&hl=en&lr=&prmd=o&ei=pg6lTIDfHpSM4gbl1YmADQ&start=0&sa=N&filter=0

Well, well well. Interesting. Very interesting.

I seem to be worrying people so much, they're rehearsing their arguments off site before taking me on.

But off in their intelligence gathering, as I didn't serve in the RN. Creepy isn't it, that they're so worried they're now stalking me on the Internet.

Who started the stalking? Ah yes that would Think, who has done his level best with smear and innuendo to avoid engaging with, and I quote, “logical, intelligent, well rounded, sensible arguments”.

Mmmmmm.

Apologies to the editors of Mercopress for attracting these nutters to your website.
90 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 11:03 pm Report abuse
This idiot thinks that he is the last king of Scotland hahaha
91 Zethee (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 11:22 pm Report abuse
Justin, you have a fanbase!
92 JustinKuntz (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 11:41 pm Report abuse
I honestly never knew, I'm just blown away that little old me frightens them that much. Oh well time for bed said Zebedee.
93 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 30th, 2010 - 11:45 pm Report abuse
Sooo scared of this nobody that I will not be able to sleep tonight hahaha
94 jorge! (#) Oct 01st, 2010 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
I remember old times when such Juan from Tierra del Fuego kicked JustinKuntz's ass and destroyed all his arguments. I miss him!

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