Unasur emergency summit in Buenos Aires in support of Correa and democracy
The Union of South American Nations, UNASUR is holding an emergency summit in Buenos Aires to discuss the situation in Ecuador and express full support for President Rafael Correa, who was virtually kidnapped for hours by protesting members of the police force until freed by Army troops.
All South American presidents with the exception of Lula da Silva from Brazil, on the closing hours of Sunday’s presidential campaign, and Paraguay’s Fernando Lugo, under chemotherapy treatment, turned up for the meeting. At midnight Thursday, Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez had yet to land in Buenos Aires.
Argentine president Cristina Kirchner convened the summit, precisely in the absence of Ecuador’s Rafael Correa who is the pro tempore Unasur president. The meeting is taking place behind closed doors at the Palacio San Martín.
Few minutes after the meeting begun, news of the liberation of Correa arrived and later Mrs Kirchner spoke with his peer.
“We can celebrate the fact that our peer, the president of Ecuador has been liberated and is in good health”, said the Argentine president.
One of the initiatives under consideration was for all leaders to fly Friday to Ecuador in a strong message of support for Correa. “From Unasur we are going to defend democracy in Ecuador, this is a provocation for the whole of South America”, said Bolivian president Evo Morales.
“Latinamerican democracies will not allow a repeat in Ecuador of the coup in Honduras”, pointed out Argentine Foreign Affaire minister Hector Timerman.
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Very proud of Cristina Fernandez De Kirchner (and shocked not to see any derogatory remarks from Mercopress)
USA did not repudiate the “Episode” nor did it issue any official statement denouncing it…..
CNN offered ample “Camera Time” yesterday to a “tall, blonde good looking, English speaking, opposition woman politician” accusing Correa of using violence against the Ecuadorian people and making him responsible for this popular uprising…
Rest my case
USA did finally “repudiate the episode”......
Eleven hours after UNASUR condemnation, the coup attempt had been effectively stopped and president Correa was already free.
Thanks again USA for your eternal “Friendship”….
Why did this coup attempt even happen?? …. Well….. One could try and start here:
en.mercopress.com/2010/07/27/ecuador-moves-to-increase-state-control-over-the-oil-industry
(Of special interest for me are the comments of the Brutish readers :-)…….
www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/01/us.guatemala.apology/index.html?hpt=T2
MY GOD!!!
“A statement by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius called the action ”reprehensible.“”
REPREHENSIBLE???
No kidding you bitch, that's downright SATANIC!
My God, it's unbelieveble! I knew of all the coups d'état, the multinational exploitation of native peoples (United Fruit, for instance). BUT INFECTING PEOPLE WITH DISEASES???? NOT EVEN NORTH KOREA DOES THAT!
What a demonic rogue state the US is, I'm glad it's rotting away. Let's just hope someone some foreign govt will exploit and mistreat the American people just as their govt did with other nations in the Third World.
Thanks for the info... It had somehow “escaped” my attention.....
I do “understand”............ Believe me..........
BTW The USA will be the richest most powerful country in the world long after we are all dead. Demonic Rogue state...what a fool you are.
Joseph Mengele from underground agrees with your comment.
Alejandro,
Don't bother. US's world power status makes fred feel good. He probably has nothing else that makes him feel that way. So he will stop at nothing to defend his country. I knew he would come up with some shit to justify those actions - to justify it not only on self-interested terms, but also in a way that says the world at large has benefited from it. Next he'll likely spout with some nonsense about the good done to those Guatemalans who were being tested with no previous knowledge about the situation.
Must be something to do with that latin fiery temprement?
The USA has been the greatest force of good the world has ever seen, can you say that about any country in SA? Nope. Keep to your high platitudes while we go and get our hands dirty using our resources to rescue and rebuild other countries from natural disaster etc. Nobody cries, where is Argentina when there is a huge natural disaster do they? How many times has your country come begging to the USA to be bailed out? I guess just about every President you have had in the last 50 years. Grow up.
The police revolt is suspected to have had involvement by Luciano Gutierrez, a right-wing politician who has been involved in a coup attempt in previous years. Gutierrez was himself a president until he was forced to resign due to a popular uprising.
@fred
I'm not Argentinian, and I'm not offended by what anyone says about her, though I think what you Brits and Americans say about the country is blown out of proportion and is more often than not motivated by a childish and mean-spirited attempt to put the Argentine people down. I doubt what you say about her is true. And you know what, f**k off you d**khead, consciousless scum. You don't care about anything your f**king country does, you'll always try to distort the facts about your country roguish and tyrannical behaviour to come up with this revolting nonsense that the US is the most positive force on earth.
YOUR COUNTRY is responsible for, or supported, coups in Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Iran, Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela - coups that deposed (or tried to) leaders that made an effort to better their peoples situation. Those are coups that have put into power leaders that have killed at least 35,000 of the peoples in their own countries.
YOUR COUNTRY is responsible for the Iraq War, an illegal war that killed more than 100,000 civilians and threw that country at the peril of a civil war.
NOTHING the US has ever done pardones the deaths of those thousands of people it has caused directly or indirectly, fred. Nothing.
I don't care about any country playing a positive role, I don't care about helping out other countries. If it depended on me, all countries would have to come up with their own solutions to their problems. That's the only way to avoid dependency on, and thus potention exploitation by, other countries.
I don't care about philanthropy, fred. Philanthropy is just another method to increase the influence and soft power by the country that is doing the charity. Philanthropy increases dependency. The US does charity to a country when it has the hope to exploit it. The US did charity to Paraguay. But when the Paraguay governement decided not to give immunity for US soldiers that occupied the country, the US renounced the aid program. Aid comes with a price, a price that sometimes is too high for the one receiving it. See Paraguay, it's a poor country, the 2nd poorest in SA. But it didn't fall apart when the US pulled out its “aid” program. No fred, SA countries are not as dependent on the US as you like to fantasize. And your country is not a positive force in the world. Just like any other country in history it only does what it believes to be in its interests.
I am extremely proud of my country and all of its great accomplishments. I call our current president the idiot professor and I think that term fits you also.
The only reason you are able to spout off here is by the good graces that the USA has given to the world and if you don't see that I feel sorry for you. You are a very sad angry little man.
What a pathetic and weak answer. Your thought-process is so marred with jingoism and low level partisanship, it is even ridiculous. You even seem a bit brainwashed. From now on I'll try to ignore you, I hope my contempt will not get the best of me the next times.
”Forgetit87”,…………… you are a sad angry little man.
Says ”Fredbdc”,………... our own Knight of the Ku Klux Klan……
Really?
www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/09/27/afghanistan.sport.murders/index.html?iref=allsearch
www.rawa.org/gallery.html
I must admit that I have followed with interest your “debate” where my young Brazilian colleague constantly deconstructed your baseless argumentation and numbers with his sharp mind.
I wanted to see how long it would take him to realize how repulsive it is to correspond with such a supremacist as you.
Today, it seems, he got enough…..
In the future as in the past, both Clausewitz and Sun Tzu will undoubtedly have a lot to offer. As to the U.S, I do not see that it follows any particular set of principles except hypocrisy: meaning, the heart-felt need to dress up its extraordinary hunger for power with fine-sounding phrases about freedom, democracy, women's rights, etc.”
Martin van Creveld, a right-wing Israeli military-scholar.
www.sonshi.com/vancreveld.html
www.heritage.org/research/reports/2006/02/whats-great-about-america
I believe the idiot professor's agenda will be thwarted by Nov and by 2012 he will be gone. Most American do not want gov't in their lives.
Are you Brazilian and embarrassed? Take a read:
www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/09/Why-is-America-Exceptional
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7047309.ece
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2OUJ8ZUTiI&feature=related
www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/americas/argentina/index.html
Great job Bush and friends!
www.examiner.com/news-you-can-use-in-atlanta/us-census-shows-poverty-america-increasing-42-6-million-living-below-pover
www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2010-09-16-poverty-rate-income-numbers_N.htm
Poor persons in the United States have far higher living standards than the pubic imagines. Overall, the typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family is not hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family's essential needs. While this individual's life is not opulent, it is equally far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, liberal activists, and politicians.
The major causes of child poverty in the United States in any year will be the absence of married fathers in the home and low levels of parental work. www.heritage.org/Issues/Poverty-and-Inequality
Recent poverty rate and guidelines
The 2008–09 poverty threshold was measured according to the Department of Health and Human Services Poverty Guidelines[13] which are illustrated in the table below.
Persons in Family Unit 48 Contiguous States and D.C. Alaska Hawaii
1 $10,830 $13,530 $12,460
2 $14,570 $18,210 $16,760
3 $18,310 $22,890 $21,060
4 $22,050 $27,570 $25,360
5 $25,790 $32,250 $29,660
6 $29,530 $36,930 $33,960
7 $33,270 $41,610 $38,260
8 $37,010 $46,290 $42,560
For each additional person, add $3,740 $4,680 $4,300
SOURCE: Federal Register, Vol. 74, No. 14, January 23, 2009, pp. 4199–4201[14]
Wow, my mind is blown away!
Frankly fred, do you think that's impressive? Y'know, I read some day that the number of people in South America with VCRs and cell phones surpass that with access to sanitized water. Access to consumer goods is widespread in LatAm, fred. What is not widespread is access to public services of high quality.
And what is all this chanting about life quality in the US? Who the fuck cares about that? I myself was discussing only US rogue behavior and your thoughtless assertion that the US has a positive influence over the world. US status as a First World country was never in dispute. And you know what fred, if life quality says all about a country, then you need to recognize some other states are far superior to the US. Sweden, for instance. Most people in the world would rather live in there than in the US.
@Alejandro
Drop it, fred won't change his views. And he won't because he doesn't reason on the basis of proven facts or the rules of logics. His thought is dominated by slogans and jingoistic propaganda that he has absorved by reading American supremacist websites such as The Heritage!
Rogue state again, really? Come on? Are you comparing us to North Korea now? I wonder why we naturalized 4+MM people this year alone, in the middle of a HUGE Recession if we are so bad? How many immigrants are living in Sweden 1MM compared to our 38MM. You should be ashamed of trying to deceive the gullible.
You should leave your shanty some time and see what it is like to live in the greatest country in the world. Do you need a visa to get here? Do you have airports where you are from?
And thanks for the invitation fred, but I have no intention to visit other countries. When I was a kid, I had this great dream of going to France. Even learned French to do that. Later on, I wanted to go to Italy, Greece, Egypt, Israel, Japan and China. But the US was never on the list of countries I wished to visit. What is there to be seen? MacDonalds? Thanks but there's MacDonalds in here, and I think its food is not very good. And not very healthy either. It's no great surprise that so many Americans are obese.
You have some great difficulty in following a reasoned argument. One speaks about apples, you retort with some rant about oranges. That the US is overall a good place to live compared to most other countries, that it is democratic, that it's very advanced in matters of science and technology, that it's moderately tolerant of immigrants (though things in there are worsening), no one in his right mind would dispute. What is in dispute is its behavior on the international arena.
Promoting coups abroad, meddling in other countries' internal affairs, waging illegal and morally unjustified wars, killing another country's civilian population -- or using them to test medicines without their consent: none of these are behaviors of a responsible state. The US has done all those things. As such, it's a rogue state. See, that's logics. It's not treated as a rogue state by most other countries, because it is too powerful, economically and otherwise, to be simply brushed aside. Of course, other countries are in a similar situation. No one alienates China and Saudi Arabia because they're powerful, important states on their own. But everyone knows those countries' govts are oppressive ones. And everyone knows the US is an international thug.
Flies like a Butterfly,..... stings like a Bee.
:-)))
FY definition of a Rogue state is a “controversial term applied by some international theorists to states they consider threatening to the world's peace. This means meeting certain criteria, such as being ruled by authoritarian regimes that severely restrict human rights, sponsor terrorism, and seek to proliferate weapons of mass destruction.[4] The term is used most by the United States, though it has been applied by other countries” I don't think the USA qualifies are you trying to make up another definition? One that suits your world view? Seriously did we deny your visa? Deport you? Bomb you? Gotta be one of those reasons.
It's McDonalds btw so are you sure you have been to one, maybe you went to a MAC Donalds and that is why you didn't like it?
Think, you are like a bothersome child, go play with some string and keep yourself quiet.
“ I've been to 29 different countries all before I was 30”
Yeahhhh……I remember those loud young Americans crisscrossing Europe on their first class “Eurail Passes”.....
Always in a hurry....
Many didn’t care where they were…..
They just wanted the stamps in their Passport to impress the chicks back home in Minnesota.....
What day is it today?..... Tuesday?..... Then this must be Paris.
Yessss…………. I remember them………:-)))
The americans can not find their own country in a map!
blogs.news.com.au/news/splat/index.php/news/comments/why_cant_20_of_americans_find_america_on_a_map/
I've lived in Brazil my entire life. And as said before, I've currently no desire to leave it. If I did, it wouldn't be to immigrate. And if I had to immigrate, it wouldn't be to the US. As I said, it's not an attractive place for my tastes. The Mediterranean coast, the Middle East and the Far East seem more interesting to me. Plus, there's the unemployment thing. Right now Brazil can boast of significantly lower unemployment rates than the US. Why leave, then? No, I don't have any money of my own. (I'm not far above the teens, btw.) My father has some, though. Last year he paid for my brother and his gf to spend 5 mo in Florida. My brother bought a PS3 in there, for it was cheaper than in here. As for me, I don't think I'd have any problem in convincing my parents into lending me money to spend some time abroad. And they'd have no problem in paying for that. There! I hope that's enough for you, for I won't share anything else. And fred, what if I had tried to immigrate and been refused the visa? Does that make one inferior to anyone else? Do you feel superior about people in 3rd World countries that try to make a better living abroad? Are you that contemptible?
As for the “rogue state” term, I was using it as a antonym of “responsible state”. Whether or not promoting coups or infecting their populations defines a rogue state, doesn't matter. All I know is that this is no behaviour of a responsible country. And perhaps such deeds are not used to define a “rogue state” because so far only the US has done such things. “Rogue state”, as you know, is a category - it is supposed to apply to a myriad of countries.
And finally fred, if promoting coups is not enough for one to argue that the US is a threat to peace, then perhaps its illegal incursions in other countries - most recently in Iraq - will do.
Sao Paulo: 7
Wachingtón: 0
Think, seriously are you retarded?
Sao Paulo: 8
Wachingtón: 0
blogs.news.com.au/news/splat/index.php/news/comments/why_cant_20_of_americans_find_america_on_a_map/
It must be Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after being mugged in Buenos Aires…….
I the year 2007 he spent a lot of energy in ”Frommers” trying to convince everybody that Argentina was a terrible place.
He didn't succeed ;-)
www.frommers.com/community/forum.cfm/central-south-america/argentina/complicated-just-live-there
www.frommers.com/community/forum.cfm/central-south-america/argentina/mugged-ba
Rest my case……….
Think, Nice hair? What hair?? :-) hahaha
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