Monday, October 18th 2010 - 20:52 UTC

Falklands/Malvinas: Argentina thanks Mercosur partners for renewed support

Argentine Foreign Affairs minister Hector Timerman thanked his Mercosur counterparts for “renewing their support towards Argentina for its legitimate, constant and unlimited right to claim the Malvinas Islands' sovereignty to the United Kingdom”.

Foreign Affairs minister Timmerman addressing the Parlasur plenary in Montevideo (Photo EFE)

Timerman message was delivered Monday at the Mercosur Parliament, Parlasur plenary, in Montevideo, Uruguay during a meeting of the block’s foreign affairs ministers.

The Argentine representative was joined by Brazil's Celso Amorin, Uruguay's Luis Almagro and Paraguay's Héctor Lacognata, and was the first speaker at the 26th Parlasur Plenary session. Timmerman sought to gain support towards the currently-in-the-spotlight disputed Falklands/Malvinas issue.

In his address Timmerman devoted himself to praise Argentina's pro-tempore presidency of the Mercosur bloc in the first half of this year stating that goals “had been achieved.” According to his words, certain objectives were reached “always bearing in mind that the core of the bloc's agenda is that of maintaining a regional productive integration.”

According to Argentine diplomatic sources Timerman appears to be after the bloc's partners to sign a “support declaration” document, which would state firmly that the neighbouring nations do support Argentina in its claim.

However, Brazil is believed to have its second thoughts about signing such a binding document since the Brazilian diplomacy is ‘more flexible’ and always likes to have room for the extra edge. Furthermore it is already engaged in a defence-related cooperation agreement with the United Kingdom which was signed last month.

The administration of Cristina Kirchner is determined that countries in the region provide no logistics support to any vessels or Royal Navy units heading to or coming from the Falklands. Uruguay last month was exposed to a dose of that medicine when at last moment it banned HMS Gloucester from entering Montevideo in spite of a previous authorization.

“Our priority is good relations with Argentina”, admitted President Jose Mujica in a personal apology to the UK ambassador in Montevideo.

Earlier in the day the four Mercosur members Foreign Affairs ministers had expressed their concerns about the military missile tests that UK forces are currently conducting at the Falklands/Malvinas Islands.

The official communiqué was signed and released during the Parlasur plenary. Parlasur also ratified the expressions and documents of disagreements submitted by the South American Nation's Union (UNASUR) and the Río Group regarding UK’s military test firing in the Falklands.

The ministers also rejected the comments made by British officials from the Foreign Office indicating that these kind of drills are “routine and have been taking place every six months for the past 28 years”.

Argentina alleged that the UK behaviour is clearly violating the “international security codes”.

Last Friday the US Department of State during a press conference supported the Foreign Office comment that the “missile firing was routine, and has been for the last 28 years (since the end of the Falklands/Malvinas war)”, adding that the dispute is bilateral and has to be decided by both sides.

“If and only if, both sides so request it, would the US consider acting as a mediator in the dispute”, said Philip Crowley, State Department spokesperson. He also added that the Foreign Office was acting with ‘transparency’ on the issue.

According to Minister Timmerman, Argentina also presented before the International Maritime Organization a formal note of protest regarding the “missile firing tests” in Malvinas waters.

 

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1 Sparticus (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
What an utter waiste of time and hot air this body is. The daft bat in Argentina will try anything to hide the fact the country in bankrupt and corrupt.
2 Think (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
Another turn of the screw for Malvinas........
3 stick up your junta (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
Another turn of the screw for Malvinas........

Are we reading the same article Think?

Last Friday the US Department of State during a press conference supported the Foreign Office comment that the “missile firing was routine, and has been for the last 28 years (since the end of the Falklands/Malvinas war)”,

However, Brazil is believed to have its second thoughts about signing such a binding document since the Brazilian diplomacy is ‘more flexible’
and always likes to have room for the extra edge. Furthermore it is already engaged in a defence-related cooperation agreement with the United Kingdom which was signed last month.

Our priority is good relations with Argentina”, admitted President Jose Mujica in a personal apology to the UK ambassador in Montevideo
4 xbarilox (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
Why are the English people so worried about Argetina? lol
5 WestisBest (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 09:48 pm Report abuse
The English have no reason at all to be worried about Argentina xbarilox, we Falkland Islanders however do worry about them, last time I saw Argies in the Falklands I was a young child....and they were pointing a gun at me.
6 Beef (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:05 pm Report abuse
So Brazil are happy to continue to give verbal support but unwilling to go a stage further a sign a document. They are also happy to accommodate ships connected to the oil exploration and were happy to meet and great the OG on her journey south.

Brazil a clever country that know Argentina is happy to be placated with words whil giving actual tangible support to the Islands in their economic activities.
7 JustinKuntz (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:24 pm Report abuse
#6 Beef you hit the nail on the head.

On a positive note, Merocpress can recycle the same article next year, all they need to do is change the names.
8 briton (#) Oct 18th, 2010 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
how embarasing for argentina, no wonder every south american country now tries to aviod them, every time they get the microphone, out comes the same old crap abt the falklands, crying into his milk, how they have been wronged, and begging for support, get over it pal, nobody cares anymore, your a third rate nation that nobody wants to know, lolol
9 Hoytred (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 12:48 am Report abuse
” ... According to Argentine diplomatic sources Timerman appears to be after the bloc's partners to sign a “support declaration ...”

Saying, is one thing, signing another! It'll be intersting to see who signs .... and what they sign !!
10 Marcos Alejandro (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 02:57 am Report abuse
”Uruguay(should say Britain) last month was exposed to a dose of that medicine when at last moment it banned HMS Gloucester from entering Montevideo in spite of a previous authorization”

Britain is looking alone and out of touch.
11 Hoytred (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 03:09 am Report abuse
Uruguay is looking weak and vulnerable ... but at least Uruguay appologised. Of course a few Uruguayans are a little poorer as a result, and some Brazillians a little richer. So you are right Marcuss, Uruguay was exposed to a dose of medicine.

And we are in touch ..... with our British Overseas Territories.
12 Marcos Alejandro (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 03:15 am Report abuse
Great job Pepe Mujica! HMS Gloucester not welcome...sorry brits.
Britain is looking alone and out of touch
13 Hoytred (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 03:20 am Report abuse
Now, if the article here is true, then Brazil isn't keen on signing any commitment regarding support, and I wonder what Chile's attitude will be following recent events and the successful trip of their President to Britain? So successful that they've invited the British PM to visit.

So difficult to be alone with so many friends :-)
14 Marcos Alejandro (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 03:39 am Report abuse
Britain is broke and cries for help to business man billionare Mr Piñera. Things are worst than I thought over there.
Britain is looking alone and out of touch...and broke :-)
15 Hoytred (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 03:47 am Report abuse
Morcuss .... you need glasses :-)
16 El Supremo (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 04:22 am Report abuse
It is very unfortunate that certain political forces in both the UK and Argentina fail to recognize and understand the unique mutually beneficial opportunity that is presented to them in equitably resolving the Falklands' matter.

Regardless of who did or said what 200+ years ago, or even 30 years ago, there is more than ample real estate and ocean to provide for the benefit of both nations and especially for those who call the Falklands 'home'.

The Islands' unique division into two substantially equal, if not nearly identical land principal masses make this a potential perfect dowry for a marriage made in BA and London.

As I have previously suggested, a demilitarized condominium is likely to be the very best permanent solution for this small dilema; one that would be a win-win-win (UK-Arg-FI) solution, with appropriate regulation of settlement, this seems like the basis for a wonderful relationship that might endure for many centuries that would effectively 'marry' the UK, Argentina and the Falkland Islanders in a perpetual commonwealth, whenin the costs and benefits of the condominum space can be shared and thus act as a springboard for the highly desirable union in that locality of the UK and Argentina ... two countries with what I take to be a natural affinity for each other, regardless of recent history ... provided the naysayers and other tunnel-visioners can be kept out of the way.
17 Think (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 04:43 am Report abuse
(16) El Supremo AKA Domingo

Well I can see you changed identity, Domingo,,,,
At least you dont mention resolution 1514 bis :-)))
18 stick up your junta (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:09 am Report abuse
@16

Shouldnt reward bad behaviour, first lesson toddlers should learn,
19 Hoytred (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:32 am Report abuse
El supremo .. the choice of name seems to give it all away, should have been a little accurate perhaps and called yourself, 'El TalkingthroughmyarseO'.
20 Domingo (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 12:36 pm Report abuse
@17: Think again Thunk! I've not changed my identity at all & did not post comment 16. I've no idea who this El Supremo is, unless it's you fooling around.

I think Think your personal obsession with stalking the identities of posters is most unhealthy and perverse, especially if you have created a false identity yourself then accused me of being that poster. Another example of your double-think.

I know its against your nature but please stick to the facts, not your deluded fantasies & penchant to make reckless unfounded allegations.

However, it appears you are not alone and that you share the same deluded fantasies & penchant to make reckless unfounded allegations as Timerman & the other revisionist propagandists in the Argentine State, who continues widespread systematic attacks directed against the civilian population of the Falklands & South Georgia, Sandwich Islands & British Antartica based on their political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural identity in flagrant breach of UN resolutions 1514(XV), 2065(XX) & Article 73.

If Argentina has a claim it should take it to the ICJ, of not it should cease it's unprovoked& unwarranted intimidation & persecution of these peaceful Islanders & accept the implement resoution 1514(XV) fully.

Shame on Timerman & shame on Argentina!
21 Zethee (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 04:38 pm Report abuse
Ooh me next! find my identity!

Pick me!
22 Think (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
(20) Domingo

Hmmmmmm....

I thought I could recognize your “style”... But I-m only human... I could be wrong!
Anyhow the last message is really you
1514 and shame on Argentina :-)
23 Domingo (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
LOL ;-D

“1514 and shame on Argentina” :-) I like it ! Great slogan!

But seriously, Argentina does have obligations to Falklanders under 1514(XV) and 2065(XX), but cynically exploits its odd interpretation of territorial integrity to persecute the Falklanders and abrogate Argentina's responsibility to them.

I understand Argentina chooses to push all arguments for its claim, however tenuous, but it should not avoid it's duties to the Falklanders under 1514(XV) as confirmed by 2065(XX).

It is unreasonable to blackmail the Falklanders into annexation when their express wish is to remain free and then to complain after exercising their right to self-determination the Falklanders democratically chose to decline Argentine's demand for their annexation based on the flawed political propaganda and indoctrination of the past Argentine totalitarian regimes, as so well documented by Escude and other eminent academics.
24 Think (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZ
25 Domingo (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
Your comment istTypical of the contempt Argentina has for the implementation of UN resolutions and its hypocrisy calling for enforcement of terms they favour but the exclusion of terms in favour of the Falklanders.

Today's Argentine position today on the Falklanders is unchanged from that of the last junta and all the more disgraceful as they claim to cherish democratic values, except when they chose to discriminate against a different ethnic group simply because they will not be bullied or intimidated into Argentine subjugation.

Shame on you and shame on Argentina!
26 Think (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
ZzZ
27 briton (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
argentina should be split up into smaler countrys, and give the world some peace
28 Domingo (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
But don't you think, Think, recognition by Argentina of the Falklanders as human beings with human rights and the right to democratically express their free will is a necessary step forward for resolution of the dispute and open the way for sincere dialogue rather than veiled threats?

I find it odd that Argentines desire and demand freedom for themselves but would deny that right and its principles to anyone else.

If Argentina declared it would respect the Falklanders rights, reconciliation and progress for all sides would be possible in the long term.

Friendship and cooperation is far more progressive than discriminatory alienation, confrontation and conflict.

In a modern world, it should be possible to embrace and achieve the former and steer clear of the latter.

Sad that the current impasse, argument and escalation are favoured rather than détente, cooperation and growing friendship.
29 stick up your junta (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:06 pm Report abuse
ZzZ

Is that it? from the pen of the mighty El think :-)

Think and Argentina can do nothing

nearly forgot
Shame on you and shame on Argentina!
30 briton (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
condoms ?
31 Beef (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 08:47 pm Report abuse
Argentine diplomatic protests make me laugh. They achieve nothing, gain no tangible support and waste Argentine tax-payers money. It is clear that these people are incapable of achieving anything and are an embarrassment for the average Argentine. Weak, delusional and talentless. Thankfully in the UK we have the intellect to de-select such politicians. Election in 2011 anyone!

Money now available for sea-lion appraisal and further exploration and Argentina is powerless to stop it. Happy days :-)
32 xbarilox (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:02 pm Report abuse
Hey! Why don't we all just get stoned? Let's all get drunk and sing beer-drinking songs! Come on folks, don't let the beer get warm!
33 Beef (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
Warm English ale is far better than that gassy cold stuff you can find anywhere in the world. Wake up Beef your breakfast is poured out!
34 WestisBest (#) Oct 19th, 2010 - 11:27 pm Report abuse
“But I-m only human... I could be wrong!”

You alright Think? that's not like you.
35 Hoytred (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 12:41 am Report abuse
Come on boys, it's no good arguing International Law or History with Think .... he knows as well as we do that this is just an old fashioned land grab........ legalities have nothing to do with it.

Colonial expansionism .... nothing less ... eh Think?
36 kelperabout (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 02:19 am Report abuse
Looks like the poit calling the Kettle black. Argentina has some cheek to tell Britain they are in violation of the international maritime law of the sea. So what do they call they're little piece of nasty work when they imposed a Falklands shipping blockade in international waters.

It is sad that Argentina has to be the greedy dictator because she could have done so very much better has she accepted that we are who we are and have been so for almost as long as they have . The one thing we can be proud of over Argentina is that we Islanders never murdered it's indidgenous people like they did.
They have some of the finest Country in the world but saddly don't seem to know how to properly use it. Remember this Argentina. The Oil that could be arround or indeed under these shores is not a sound reason to justify your claim to these Islands. It makes you look ever more the bullies you obviously are.
Why we even extended a friendly hand to you and you tried to bite it of. When you have finnished growing up then by all means come and talk with us you may actually learn somethig more human like.
37 M_of_FI (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
I have noticed a little pattern emerging...

Argentina publically states something against the Falkland Islands and Britain. Argentine MeroPress commentators (Think, Alejandro et al) all pretty much say that “this is the beginning of the end of Britain's grasp over Las Malvinas” or one “large step in Argentina's regaining the Malvinas”. But nothing happens. The Falklands continue to use their right to self-determination, and I continue to be British. For the last 14 months I have been reading Mercopress articles and their subsequent comments, every single Argentine poster claims that it is the end of Britain's reign over the South Atlantic! But it never is. Everything just continues as it was. Think, the reality is that the screw isnt turning. Alejandro, the reality is that Britain is not feeling lonely. Argentina are the ones so desperate to gain support and is blackmailing all its neighbors into supporting their claim. Britain knows it has support, and knows if it doesnt, it can continue alone. Argentina knows it needs to force eveyone into some kind of alliance because they know they are weak and that their claim is weak.

Think believes the laughably named 'Denial of supplies/services' is working. But he doesnt live here, and he assumes it is working. Think, you can carry on to believe whatever you want to and continue to live in your delusion. But the Islanders know it isnt working, and it only harms Argentina'a international image.
38 Islander1 (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 01:49 pm Report abuse
Think, please expalin these turns of the screw(2)- along with my other requests for you to produce pratical evidence of the“pressures” and trade barriers etc?
Containers continue to arrive by sea from 2 regular and now- 1 more S. American nations. Airlinks are just the same as they have been for many years.
What have you achieved? So far all you have acheived is alienate the younger generation here into a total hatred of Argentina and all Argentines and anything Argentinian! That younger generation was NOT of that view before the lady and her husband - they were the generation that could perhaps have thought a bit more open minded in future - well done, you Govt has slammed the door on any future rapprochment - firmly shut for another generation! What is “own goal” in Spanish?
39 JorgeARG (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
We don't care their stupid hatred, that's their problem, hatred is unhealthy.
What islanders need to understand is that they should not believe whatever they are told by UK, they are a country full of lies till these days.
English speaking people are so ignorants about the present of Argentina, they just don't understand that my country as many others in South America have moved on in many ways and have nothing to do with the dictatorships of the past.
Islanders not only live in the islands phisically, they do it mentally too. They always were closed-minded and know nothing that is out there. Shame on them!
40 Zethee (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 07:47 pm Report abuse
“What islanders need to understand is that they should not believe whatever they are told by UK”

They are free to believe whatever they wish.

“they just don't understand that my country as many others in South America have moved on in many ways and have nothing to do with the dictatorships of the past.”

What you need to understand is that they probably don't care, and still want nothing to do with you.
41 stick up your junta (#) Oct 20th, 2010 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
they just don't understand that my country as many others in South America have moved on in many ways and have nothing to do with the dictatorships of the past.

Argies still bleating about events 1833 is ok
42 Monty69 (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 01:23 am Report abuse
ARG, you're living in another world; almost everyone I know has been to South America on holiday. Quite a few have lived in South America for periods of time and we all have Chilean friends and neighbours. Anyone with an education post-16 did it somewhere 'out there'.
This isn't about ignorance or indoctrination; shame on you! We know what you're like and we still don't want you.
43 J.A. Roberts (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:48 am Report abuse
The islands didn't belong to you in 1833, before or since Pucara. Stop trotting out the propaganda you were fed at school! Oh, and read the rules for this forum. If you want to post in “castellano” (now there's an irony, isn't Castilla in Spain? so much for “native” South American...) do it somewhere else...
44 stick up your junta (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 01:28 pm Report abuse
Pucara strange name for a Spanish speaker
The Pucara (“hilltop fortress” - a type of stone fortress built by early South American Indians

Captured aircraft
After the Argentine surrender eleven Pucarás (four of them in flying condition) were captured by British forces. Six were taken back to the United Kingdom, as follows:

A-515 (ZD485) – Royal Air Force Museum Cosford.[9]
A-517 – Privately owned. Possibly shipped to the Channel Islands.[10]
A-522 (8768M) – North East Aircraft Museum (on loan from the Fleet Air Arm Museum, Yeovilton).[11]
A-528 (8769M) – Norfolk and Suffolk Aviation Museum (on loan from Museum of Army Flying, Middle Wallop).[12]
A-533 (ZD486) – Boscombe Down Aviation Collection (Cockpit Section only).[13]
A-549 (ZD487) – Imperial War Museum Duxford.[14]

Got to see the one at Duxford,refurbishment going well,took some time getting the shit stains of the seat
45 Pheel (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
Nice flags those of the 71th...they already have the bullets holes...
46 JorgeARG (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 02:32 pm Report abuse
...“Argies still bleating about events 1833 is ok”...

- In 1833 you invaded foreign land, in 2003 you invaded in the middle east foreign land again! So dear, your country is still the same.

...“We know what you're like and we still don't want you.”...

- I've never asked you to like me, I don't give a sh*t about that, that's irrelevant for me. You were more than 150 years adoctrinated to think that “to have a british territory in the South Atlantic is pretty normal” when it is just an act of piracy!!! Shame on you!!!

43 J.A. Roberts, where did you get what you are smoking, it's so strong, isn't it!

...”After the Argentine surrender eleven Pucarás (four of them in flying condition) were captured by British forces.”...

- It's ok, we have captured the pirate flag on the islands and it is here for the moment.

Cheers
47 Hoytred (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
Can't think of any foreign land we invaded back in 1833 ... all I can see is that we threw some squatting garrison off our islands for trespassing. After the mutiny they seemed quite pleased to go too :-)
48 Typhoon (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
@39
“English speaking people are so ignorants about the present of Argentina, they just don't understand that my country as many others in South America have moved on in many ways and have nothing to do with the dictatorships of the past.”

I'm so pleased to hear that. All you need to do now is to demonstrate how far you have moved on.

Repeat these words, “We, the Argentine people, accept that the Falkland Islands are nothing to do with Argentine. The Islands, together with South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, are the sole and sovereign property of the Falkland Islanders and Britain.”
49 NicoDin (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 06:57 pm Report abuse
Hey hey here we go again and again ufff
50 briton (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
48 Typhoon ,I'm so pleased to hear thatEnglish speaking people
Repeat these words, “We, the Argentine people, accept that the Falkland Islands hates the argentinians
.............................
we agree with those mixed up words, but argentina despite your cons and tricks, will still not get the falklands,
51 J.A. Roberts (#) Oct 21st, 2010 - 08:47 pm Report abuse
“In 1833 you invaded foreign land” That is highly debatable JorgeARG, but what is 100% certain is that was not Argentine land.

How about a few facts to back up your assertions instead of an ad hominem argument based on what you presume I smoke?
52 Zethee (#) Oct 24th, 2010 - 04:26 am Report abuse
“piracy”

Is the best part of any argentine arument. There own government supports the word.

If you took the time to look at the definition of the word, you would realise that it is impossible for a state to be involved in piracy.
53 kelperabout (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 12:57 am Report abuse
The biggest pirates are the Argentines why they murdered an indigenous people who were the rightfull owners of that former land. That part of their History will always come back to haunt them.
Wouln't it be nice if these modern Argentines actually started admitting that their whole cultural history is steeped in violance and dictatorships.
Bet no one has looked after their country and people as well as the Falkland Islanders have inspite of bieng constantly harrassed by their closest neighbours. It might also be in the Argentines interest to actually start talking directly with us instead of using third parties to do their dirty work. Truth is we are rather more inteligent than them so is probably the reason they steer clear of us. Why just ask the countless hundreds of thousands of visiting tourists from all corners of the earth who come to our little country to get away from the madness of other nations who appear unable to live in any kind of harmony. We Falkland Islanders are a proud people and very good hosts. Why not get of the old high horse and give it a try Argentina you might be surprised at just how little you actually know in this world.
54 Marcos Alejandro (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 04:00 am Report abuse
kelperabout, “It might also be in the Argentines interest to actually start talking directly with us”

Who should we talk to exactly? The saints, bennies, Chileans, Australians, New Zealenders, Russians, Indonesians , Filipinos or the whennies?
Nearly half the Falkland Islanders are immigrants. Foreign workers are imported to do the work that locals can't or won't do.
55 xbarilox (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 06:12 am Report abuse
Still making those Brits angry, Héctor? lol
56 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 06:55 am Report abuse
(53)
Some ethnocentric pearls from a good “Island brain-enema”…
How could one ever discuss against those Islands truths?..:-)

“Truth is we are rather more inteligent than them so is probably the reason they steer clear of us.

Why just ask the countless hundreds of thousands of visiting tourists from all corners of the earth who come to our little country to get away from the madness of other nations who appear unable to live in any kind of harmony.

Why not get of the old high horse and give it a try Argentina you might be surprised at just how little you actually know in this world.”
57 stick up your junta (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 08:13 am Report abuse
Some ethnocentric pearls

Good old British stock, was how you described a Argie who pointed a gun at a little Girls head,wasnt it Think?
58 WestisBest (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 08:40 am Report abuse
Ranting aside Kelperabout makes a good point think, you purport to be such an intelligent person so why don't you 'give it a try', get off your arse and visit the Falklands, come and see for yourself how much bullshit you Argentines are being fed by your government.
59 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 09:47 am Report abuse
THIMC
I “knew” Islands in their” pre -1982” pristine colonial primitivism……
Thanks…….
Evidently, many of you haven’t, don’t want to know or to remember…………

And what would I see if I visited today?
A”Perfect” society of 2.500 souls economically based on:
The selling of Fishing licenses to third countries….
The selling of Oil licenses to Britain….
The catering of tourist ships that stopover in Stanley as an “Odd Curiosity” in-between the South-American highlights….
The alcoholic “catering” of more than 1300 “British “defense” troops…
All this based on utilizing and pilfering Argentinean resources and keeping us as Enemies….
No thanks for your invitation…. Not interested at all………..
60 WestisBest (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:16 am Report abuse
Ahhh Think, so refreshing to hear you not only admit to being ignorant but also state that you won't do anything to enlighten yourself.

Oh yes and whatever you perceive to be 'evident' Think, I am a Falkland Islander, I know just how much trouble the Falklands was in pre 82, but here it is Think....now it's not, the place has developed quite nicely.
61 lsolde (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:21 am Report abuse
they are not Argentinean resources, Mr Think. the resources belong to the Falklanders.“thou shalt not covet thy neighbours goods”
62 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 10:45 am Report abuse
(60) Westi
In your last many posts you have called me...: nazi,racist, stupid, ignorant and even made fun of my rudimentary mastering of the English language…
But,……Worst of all you mocked my sense of humor :-(
Are their no limits for your wickedness? :-)
As I have said many times before … It is that “quite nice development” you mention Argentina is targeting.

(61) Cher Isolde
No neighbors in sight…. Just a bunch of haughty British squatters…………..
63 WestisBest (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
“Are their no limits for your wickedness?”

Not as far as my treatment of you and your fellow Malvinists goes Think, I save up my wickedness just for you.
64 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
What an honor!
You make me blush... again.....
65 WestisBest (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
Honour Think, not Honor, we'll have none of that US English on here thank you very much....and you are indeed honoured.
;-)
66 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
(60) Westi

Honor… Honour…. Doesn’t matter how you spell it… …..
Not much of “that stuff” available in the Anglo World these days………….

Just thinking…. ............

You Islanders keep rubbing our noses (and quite rightly so) in our dictatorial past and our Dirty War.

About how afraid you are of those monstrous Argentinean that can crap in a Post Office………

Yet, at the same time, the Malvinas is the training base for those “Wikileak Heroes” that went to Iraq and go to Afghanistan …..

And you call us brainwashed???
67 kelperabout (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
59 Think (#)
So Think. you appear to accuse our people of exploiting the Argentines interest. Well what have you to say about exploiting the indigenous peoples of your Country. Anyway even if we decided to give you the fish and the oil you would still not be satisfied. Oh and you have also mentioned the places in which we aparantly came from well how about your lot. The Welsh, Scots, Germans, Brits and so on all played a very big part in making Argentina what it is today. You cannot say the Argentines did it because it was done by many nationals.

Absslutly no different in the way we have built our own civilization. The only differance is we done it in a peacful way which as I have already stated did not happen with your lot.

I asked your presidant this question but she did not reply. What would you do with the Islands if we handed them to you. Your lot in 82 could not handle the cold wind. What would you do about it.
68 Marcos Alejandro (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
“Yet, at the same time, the Malvinas is the training base for those “Wikileak Heroes” that went to Iraq and go to Afghanistan …..”

Great training! Do not forget that this atrocities were commited a short time ago and under a democratic government.

“But the search for truth must begin at home. Ten days from now, the high court in London will hear evidence of torture and unlawful killing of Iraqi civilians at the hands of British forces. The thousands of allegations presented by our clients point to systemic problems at the heart of the UK military system that necessitate a single judicial inquiry into British detention policy in Iraq. Extreme physical violence, hooding, the use of stress positions, and sleep deprivation were apparently standard operating procedure. Of particular concern are the many allegations of sexual abuse, even male rape”

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/oct/24/iraq-war-logs-hanaan-hamood-matrood
69 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
(67) Kelperabout

It does not surprise me that Argentina’s President didn’t bother to answer your question if it was formulated it in the same manner as here……

I read your whole text twice trying to find something to answer but…………….. you seem to have all the answers already….
70 kelperabout (#) Oct 25th, 2010 - 09:45 pm Report abuse
69 Think (#)
So we agree on at least something if I already have the answers sems though you cant find a good enough reason to give anyway That is nad has always been the problwm with Argentina. Don't know when they are wrong

Never mind we at least know who we are the rightfull owners of our Country because we were born here.

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