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Argentine farmers are back in a strike

Monday, January 17th 2011 - 08:57 UTC
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Argentine farmers have halted sales of wheat, corn and soy in a strike over export curbs, rekindling a dispute that helped drive global grains prices to record highs three years ago. Read full article

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  • I

    I think tax on food export is a great tool to keep social unrest from a all out riot, I remember the food prices sky rocketed in Mexico during the rebirth of the bio-fuel engine industry a few years ago, I don't think we want to see that to happen in Argentina, in any case according to another report by “FAO food prices index marks record; threat for global growth and social stability” if anyone here did the math and compared the cost of a food basket in Argentina to that of say Australia, you will notice that as it stands, people in Australia contrubute less of their income to food then Argentina does, and that is not even counting, electricity, rent, gasoline, phone service, cable tv, heating or property tax, it wouldn't make sence to have a coutry like Argentina pay more for food then in a desert like Australia, in any case this taxes damages the big corporates only since the small farmer is not even part of the big export firms, thumbs up for taxes on food exports, and a lets hope for a greater then 3% tax return from the MINING sector, like Autralia's at around 40% tax....

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    a desert like Australia

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-01-17/flood-hit-victoria-towns-warned-to-evacuate-as-brisbane-mops-up.html

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    IGNOREwelcome to planet earth (#2), wake up rise and shine!

    WARNING MESSAGE: language glitch err#SUBJECT CONDITIONED#UK
    NATURE: message google search thread = “australia demographic and yearly rain fall”
    HITS: About 47,500 graphics out of About 751,000 web results.
    GRAPHICS: link #2 = http://www.cazr.csiro.au/connect/resources.htm
    SUBJECT CONDITIONING: language glitch.

    END MESSAGE.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    I, another brilliant economist from Argentina. Has anyone there taken an econ class? Jeez what a bunch of retards.
    To have successful thriving businesses you NEVER tax exports.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    fredbdc. I'd tell you to stop offering advice but it doesn't really make a great deal of difference. The chances of the shanty-town brigade ever acting with intelligence is next to zero.

    But I have an excellent idea for turning the whole country around. What we do is to settle the current dispute by bringing in loads of new Brits, Irish, Scots, Welsh, reduce all the Latinos to the peasant class that is truly theirs, working on the land, and rename the place New Scotland! It may have to be a little harsh at first in order to get across the concept of “work”.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Typhoon, That is the way it was prior to Peron when they were in the top 5 richest countries in the world. After Peron the country was ruined, of course they don't see it. that way.
    But as Think admitted “it is better than it was” talking about inflation. Most of them have never traveled out of their own country so they don't know what a well run, honest, honorable place is like.
    Of course when have experienced 30% PER MONTH inflation 30% year seems great!
    They won't learn until their economy is completely destroyed and it is not long now just wait until after this years elections. It is going to get UGLY quick.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    IGNOREwelcome to planet earth (#4), wake up rise and shine!

    WARNING MESSAGE: evasive selfserving bias err#SUBJECT CONDITIONED#UK
    NATURE: message google search thread = “australia mining tax“,”argentina mining tax”
    LINK#1: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6410MY20100502
    By James Grubel
    CANBERRA | Sun May 2, 2010 4:24am EDT
    (Reuters) - Australia's government angered its booming resources sector on Sunday by unveiling a new tax on mining projects from July 2012 under a sweeping pre-election tax overhaul which will also boost pension savings for workers.
    The government will also cut the company tax rate from “30 percent to 29 percent” from mid 2013 and to 28 percent by mid 2014, and will refund state-based royalties currently imposed on mining projects.'

    LINK#2: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6410MY20100502
    Argentina says scraps some mining export tax breaks
    ”Dec 5 (Reuters) - Argentine authorities said on Wednesday they had scrapped tax exemptions for mining companies, meaning some now face export duties of 5 percent or 10 percent.”
    SUBJECT CONDITIONING: subjugated evasive servant

    END MESSAGE.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • arquero

    #1 + #2 + #3 remind me some Brits massacres there abruptly !

    ---Aborigin and Tornes Straight Islanders .....

    -- Fremontle (west Australia) 1830 ...Brits Commndr Irwin.....

    -- Convincing Ground 1833--1834 ( !!) Victoria---whale hunters....

    -- Waterloo Creek 1838 ....women and chidren.....

    -- Coniston 1928 ..revenge of Frederic Brooks killing by William Murray.

    as we see that 1833 was Brits' auspicious date..anyhow .. !!

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    @5 ''But I have an excellent idea for turning the whole country around. What we do is to settle the current dispute by bringing in loads of new Brits, Irish, Scots, Welsh, reduce all the Latinos to the peasant class that is truly theirs, working on the land, and rename the place New Scotland! It may have to be a little harsh at first in order to get across the concept of “work”.''

    Bring 'em in. ya'll get pushed back into the sea just like it happened 200 years ago.
    It's going to be a hilarious espectacle to watch

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    #10 It already is happening through peaceful means by foreigners purchasing the farmland and huge swaths of Patagonia. No need to invade just buy it up piece by piece and let the beasts of burden (argentinians) take care of it while the landholders reap the rewards. Between Cargill, Monsanto, Ted Turner's land holdings is there even any left?

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • arquero

    #10 Lord sorry Sir ..you became hot on..

    --Convincing Ground 1833--1834 ( !!) Victoria --whale hunters.... ?

    unfortunately , one of your historical realities !!

    sincerely yours.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    Not long ago some private Electric company was shuting down electricity in Bs AS, long story short whatever income the city loss will comeback to the public boult in fines, I don't think people can go around playing politics anymore, I could be wrong, but if the big corporations are peny pinching the working class to sufocate the masses and criple the country, that means they are willing to risk being fined or pushing the government into nationalizing esential resources like nlike food and energy, I remember one president who was really good at doing exacly that in 2001, MR. President of “la Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela” Hugo Faria Chavez apparently that is the objective.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “It's going to be a hilarious espectacle to watch”

    Almost as hilarious as failing to secure an island just off the coast.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    @11
    I couldn't care less tbh.
    I'm not even a farm owner, hell i don't even depend of that.
    *Put Sunglasses*

    @12
    Arquerito, one can always hope and dream.

    @13 El Zeta
    Not my concern, i never considered the islands.
    I don't follow the cheap-assed nationalist model. So no hard feeling, pal.

    Jan 17th, 2011 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    15, Tara, “I'm not even a farm owner, hell i don't even depend of that.” I hate to be the one to tell you but EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN of the most foul Argentina wholly depends on farming for their livelihood, even a cartonero like yourself.

    Jan 18th, 2011 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    @16

    ''>Implying i'm cartonero
    >Implying i depend on farms
    >Implying you have any aknowledge whatsoever about this country.''

    Ahhh mexicans, always talking trash out of your ass, as usual.
    Not surprised coming from someone who lives in a country taken by narcos.
    Look on your own territory next time chamaco, o los burritos te quemaron el cerebro.

    Laughable how all of you haters gather round in this news media just to bash my country, of course you can keep on dreaming amigacho. A ver si todavia te matan en la frontera. :rolleyes:

    Jan 19th, 2011 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    16, Tara (nico) you know very well I am an American living in DC. I probably know more about your country, history and it's economics than you do.
    It is very funny that Argentinians try to come here and act like you are anything more than a dying kleptocracy.

    Jan 19th, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    @18
    Don't get mad alfredito. It's well known that you are a dirty ilegal alien living in the US. How does it feel to be a poor inmigrant.
    Que pasa amigo, they didn't give you a job in your native country ;). Come here, we may give you a job as ''cartonero''. It's the kind of job your type loves to do :D

    ''It is very funny that Argentinians try to come here and act like you are anything more than a dying kleptocracy.''

    Try harder next time, you know nothing about it.
    So far all your post are typical trash-talk.

    But hey, keep going don alfredo. You're amusing me :D

    Jan 19th, 2011 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Si Nico you are right, I am a self loathing Latin, wowo how didyou fin dme out? Am I that obvious? Funny I don't want more lemon pledge so I am not sure what gave me away? Was it because my hands are all dirty from the gardening?
    BTW how many personalities do you have now 9 or 10? They seem to be growing every day! Sir and I are relatively new and oh so creative.
    So are you a waiter or barman? Better to be an illegal barman in UK than.. well...just about anything in the most foul Argentina at least you are paid in Pounds not Pesos.
    Interesting fact, did you know that the Arg Peso can not be exchanged in the USA so if you have any you are stuck with them because no one will take them. Nice huh? Makes you proud doesn't it! Whoo hoo way to go! Peron Peron Peron!!!

    Jan 19th, 2011 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yul

    20** fredbdc.. you say living in US ?....Ok
    I have two question for you ;

    (1) ... do you eat rice in US ...or you like to eat rice in US ?
    (2)....why little trucks(pick-up) sales more than cars in US ?

    Jan 19th, 2011 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    I don't know what you are trying to say. Can't you speak English for gosh sakes!? I would bet you don't know how to construct a sentence in Spanish and that is why google translate can't translate it for you. Did you make it past the 5th grade?

    Jan 19th, 2011 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yul

    don't curl up ...fred....don't curl up !
    i'll ask (2) everytime to you .

    Jan 20th, 2011 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    @20''Si Nico you are right, I am a self loathing Latin, wowo how didyou fin dme out? Am I that obvious? Funny I don't want more lemon pledge so I am not sure what gave me away? Was it because my hands are all dirty from the gardening?
    BTW how many personalities do you have now 9 or 10? They seem to be growing every day! Sir and I are relatively new and oh so creative. ''

    Not sure who's nico.
    This is my 4th post in this place. Don't jump to conclusions

    ''So are you a waiter or barman? Better to be an illegal barman in UK than.. well...just about anything in the most foul Argentina at least you are paid in Pounds not Pesos. ''

    None of these.
    And who cares in which currency i get paid. I can still do whatever i want with it.

    ''Interesting fact, did you know that the Arg Peso can not be exchanged in the USA so if you have any you are stuck with them because no one will take them. Nice huh? Makes you proud doesn't it! Whoo hoo way to go! Peron Peron Peron''

    Nice one sherlock, but we already know it.
    You don't expect people to outside with the local currency, that's why you have to exchange it for USD or €.
    Peron Peron que grande sos. Lmfao!!
    Not really, i'm not a peronist.

    Jan 20th, 2011 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    Actually U$ is freely accepted everywhere I have ever traveled as a 2nd currency and sometimes as the preferred currency. Especially in the most foul Argentina they love to get $U1 to bring be a drink or clean my shoes.
    SRB you are Nico, you are Yul, you are ed you are gdr, I, gosh the list goes on and on or don't you think we can spot your poor writing skills and the idioms that are evident in all of your posts. Retard.

    Jan 20th, 2011 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    Keep claiming that i'm nico, paranoid retard.
    Oh i have grammatical errors. Does it really matters?
    So far everything i been reading from you guys, it's nonsensical.

    Also, you talk about this country like if you lived here or visited it.
    *Palm meets face*

    Please return to your Lawn Mowing job.

    Salute.

    Jan 20th, 2011 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yul

    fred..... my question is serious

    why little trucks(pick-ups) sales more than cars in US ?

    Jan 20th, 2011 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    27, I would imagine it is the way they classify SUV, mini- SUVs and crossovers all of those are classified as lt trucks, then they are not included in the fleet CAFE standards set by the US gov't per car mfg. Also SUVs etc are more popular than cars.

    26, It only counts if you want to be understood. BTW do you know the difference between a lemon and lime? I have the hardest time here getting the correct drink from you people.
    I lived in the most foul Argentina for 5 years and my spouse still has family there I know what i am talking about.

    Jan 21st, 2011 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • I

    jajajajaj
    the farmers want no export tax ???? go to Romania they have no export tax and they can't afford to buy meat in some areas.
    take a look at this news and then ask yourselves why do is it not printed in english, spanish or any other languages, because they are alone on thisone and no one else cares for the poor and needy, say anyone seen the Mexican not being hable to afford corn, the grain used to makes most traditional meals in Mexico, well guess what the bio-fuel industry brought the price soo high that low income Mexican couldn't compete with the prices set forth by car fuel demand, there is no need for this strike, what agriculture in Argentina need is an “agrarian reform”, a re-distribution of arable land, a profit sharing scheme, government grants for farmers, Argentines need to let the government participate and set forth rules for healthy social circles to mature, and we need to ingore outsiders who only come to “Argentina TO STEAL” from us.

    http://www.bizcity.ro/stiri/pretul-alimentelor-de-doua-ori-mai-mari-in-unele-judete.html?id=47275

    Jan 21st, 2011 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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