Chilean journalist reflects on Falklands’ sovereignty dispute
The benefit of encouraging opinion makers to visit the Falklands was demonstrated when an article translated as “Petrol sets the Falklands on fire” appeared on the website lanacion.cl, written by recent visitor and Chilean writer and journalist, Raúl Sohr.
More than 2,000 words in length, and with headings such as Petroleum, The Military Situation and The Diplomatic Front, the article gives a very reasonable and balanced account of a number of aspects of our existence, beginning with the Argentine Government’s attempts to interfere with shipping to and from the Islands and the loss of up to 11 million US dollars annually suffered by businesses in Punta Arenas.
Reflecting that there appears to be no obvious solution to the sovereignty debate, Raúl says the discovery of oil will add to the intransigence of both sides, with countries in the region like Chile being forced to take sides, at least in some aspects.
He says: “It is the nature of such conflicts that they rarely benefit anyone, but can harm many.”
The comments from his Chilean readers which follow also are of interest, with one writer claiming 89% of Chileans supported the British in 1982, because they knew that if successful in the Falklands, General Galtieri’s next step would have been to invade Chile.
One Chilean who says he is convinced it is both right and much better for us to be British, goes back in time to mention that the Argentine Government took advantage of Chile being engaged in defending its borders to the north to take Patagonia from Chile, and adds that to those who believe Argentina has always owned all the territory it currently claims, it should be pointed out that Mendoza was founded by the Chileans, who also formed a large portion of San Martin’s army of liberation.
The tendency in South America for historical disputes over territory to live on well past their sell-by date is also demonstrated by one obviously Argentinean writer who urges: “It should not be forgotten that the British tried to take the whole of Argentina by force in 1806 and 1807,” and goes on to claim that it was because of this failure that “the dirty British” took the Falklands in 1833.
By John Fowler - Penguin News - Stanley
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A pity that instead of commenting on the topics of this well written piece by Chilean journalist, Raúl Sohr, you choose to use more than 50% of the article’s space on presenting the ramblings of anonymous commentators…………..
www.lanacion.cl/el-petroleo-inflama-las-malvinas/noticias/2010-12-18/173732.html#inicio_lista
A primitive move that reduces even more the little journalistic quality that the Penguin News has left.
Not even MercoPress would dedicate half of an article to the ramblings of anonymous posters like “Agent006”, “Jorge”, “Briton”, “I”, “Justin Kuntz” or even that crazy geezer “Think” ;-)
Ps:
I couldn’t help noticing that Mr.Sohr’s mentions, more than once, that Punta Arenas business to the islands amounted to seven (7) million dollars*….
*(“Punta Arenas factura unos siete millones de dólares anuales por provisiones a las islas”)
But in your comment about his article you write:
(”The loss of up to 11 million US dollars annually suffered by businesses in Punta Arenas.”)
Way to go………+57% increase ; courtesy of Penguin News………….
Other than that it didn't seem to say very much really.
We had a murder the other day outside a pub....you would have thought it was the single greatest event to happen in the towns history the way the Town Crier Journalists set about it (with the usual punctuation errors).
You say:
“I noticed an excessive use of the word 'kelpers' in the article which demeans the author!”
I say:
Why???
The author does nothing else than using the centuries old denominative for the inhabitants of the Islands.
Used by the English, the South-Americans and the Islanders themselves.
Me personally, and the few Islanders I know, consider the appellative “Kelper” an attractive and positive one.
In stark contraposition to the derogatory British minted “Bennie” nickname……
The fantasy of the word “Kelper” being pejorative seems to come from the fantasies of a certain Mr. Justin Kuntz”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kelpers
In short, For us South Americans and Islanders; calling a Kelper a Kelper is as insulting as calling a Gypsy a Gypsy, a Muslim a Muslim or an Englishman an Englishman
As the present article proves...............
'Falkland Islanders' would have been correct.
The main thing is the Falklands are British and will remain so until the Falkland Islanders decide otherwise.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBEQYnpFrcU&playnext=1&list=PLB47FA9729EC395B1
The second main thing is that Patagonia belongs to Chile.
Better you take care of Londonistan the new capital of Pakistan mate.
Londonistan Calling
www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/06/hitchens200706
Nico are you sure this man isn't your father?upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Nick_griffin_bnp_from_flickr_user_britishnationalism_%28cropped%29.jpg
You're views on our muslim countrymen seem to be startlingly similar :)
#16 They don't care Xbox and especially not if it comes from you. And if it's not important why are you taking the trouble to comment anyway?
Until now we have two (2) authentic Islanders that tell us that they don’t perceive the word ”Kelper” as pejorative ……………..
Would be nice if some other inhabitants from the Archipelago (WestisBest, Monty69, Isolde, etc.) could spare a minute to give their opinion and settle this matter once and for all.
I am, as a Patagonian, pretty tired of being called a “racist” by a fundamentalist Scottish internet warrior as Mr. Justin Kuntz, who never has set foot in Patagonia, for using a Patagonian word in a Patagonian context.
Whatever you guys call us is fine, as long as you don't start translating into your own language, cochayuyero just doesn't cut the mustard.
As for our big-feeted neighbour (s), tread carefully!
“Cochayuyero” is Chilean for “Kelper:”
Carefull though.....It can be a “tricky” word to use, especially if you wish to “soak the cochayuyo” :-)
The Argie word for “Kelper” would be: “Alguero”
We have some on this side of the water too...
www.bahiabustamante.com/e5.html
In turn, the term “kelper” arose because the islands are surrounded by kelp
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelper
There is NO mistake lad......
Cochayuyo and Cachiyuyo are both correct, derivated from the Quechua language.
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durvillaea_antarctica
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrocystis_pyrifera
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kelpers&oldid=142234600
The reference to its use as a racist pejorative was added in 2007 by Bennytec, a Falkland Islander. If you want to see how often it is used in the racist pejorative sense, one only has to visit the website of one El Malvinense.
And I called you a racist because you have posted racist comments.
You say:
“And I called you a racist because you have posted racist comments.”
I say:
Would you care to link us to any of my supposed racist comments?
Or will you just use your favorite excuse from Wikipedia?:
“It was there! ….I read it! …..Some Malvinista zealot must have erased it!
What a Turnip………….
No problem with benny either, we have a fishing industry....so that's a beneficiary....har har.
:-)
If you're so sure of this, what are you doing here? Why try so hard to convince us?
If I was in your place and I truly believed what I'm saying, I wouldn't give two shits what you think. I'd pretend you don't even exist.
For that matter, what in the hell are all of you Brits doing here?
Doh! Isn't the Falkland Islands a British Overseas Territory? The UN believes so, and the word 'British' might just give the game away regarding our presence in here. Frankly, I'd have thought that was fairly obvious, but then Argentines don't seem to recognise the bleeding obvious, or reality for that matter.
For the record, when I swore allegiance to the Queen when I was attested into the British Army, as an Englishman I would have readily given my life to protect Wales and the Welsh, or Scotland and the Scottish, or indeed any BOT and BOT Islanders, from an invader like Argentina.
You just have no concept of what it means to be British, whether British English, or British (Other); we are all Islanders; you on the other hand are just liars, thieves, and corrupt, with a big yellow streak up your collective backs.
We don't need to convince you, the round up your arse as you run away should do that.
if you want something done argentina, you will have todo it your self as no one is going to help you.
so on that bases, when can we expect you ??
No one cares what you swore allegiance to Wireless, you stupid clown. And I know exactly what it is to be British, not much. The only difficulty when it comes to England is finding it on a map. That's what this is all about. You're small, old and depleted. That's it, that's England.
“Come and get the islands!!” That defines you perfectly, it's all you've got, nothing else... no real country to speak of, no heritage aside from that of a pirate.
You really are sad, all of you. And NONE of you truly think you can keep Malvinas indefinitely, or else you would't even be here.
And yet, here you are..Posting your opinion and arguing your side of the topic.
That logic works both ways, idiot.
“You really are sad, all of you. And NONE of you truly think you can keep Malvinas indefinitely, or else you would't even be here.”
And yet, you're here arguing with so called “sad” people. That would also make you sad.
And NONE(argentinians) truly think you can get the, or else you would't even be here.
Oh look, it works both ways.
Stones, glass houses.
Well, let's see....I'm posting on here....and I do know we'll be in the Falklands indefinately. Question is...what are you going to do about it Martin?....anything?....nah, who's the sad one then eh Martin? us who have what we want or you who don't have what you want, you're a loser mate.
I suppose because we call the people of the USA yanks, they must also be a colony.
We call swedish people swedes, they also one? I hear people call Argentinians argies...Does that mean that Argentina is a colony?
I see some gaping holes in your logic.
You know what's funny, I don't plan to set one foot on Malvinas even when they go back to Argentina, they're ugly and they're full of mines. Whatever you think you have, it's crap, we just want you out of the South Atlantic.
We already have one of the richest, biggest, most beautiful countries in the world.
I take back what I said, you are beyond sad... idiot kelper.
If I would be racist I should tell you that Nicky is toooo dark to be my father and my mother is red head.
And my brother also something like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Headed_Young_Man.jpg
But I’m the black of the family and they kick me every weekend to remember that.
How could I be racist if I’m a victim of the bloody white racist from my own family?
But even though being the black sheep of the family I’m white compared with Griffin.
So I’m confused now, can I beat Griffin and consider myself racist too?
What do you think?
Haha
@Be serious
In your geography lesson, which I appreciated so much, you forgot the map of London in stand to be complete.
Here my contribution encyclopediadramatica.com/File:Londonistanmap.jpg
Don’t thank me please for my generosity. I’m like this, always ready to help.
See you later Moham
They are your mines, care to have them back, after-all, it was Argentina who broke numerous laws in 82 when they scattered them all over without marking them on a map.
Argentina isn't rich, far from it, which is why the IMF are avoiding you at all costs.
The only truly beautiful part of Argentina would have to be in Patagonia, you know the place, after all you stole it from Chile..
While you rant, the drill keeps turning, oil will be found. This could be a problem, but to ease the burden, i suggest that the islanders gain full independence, then pay the UK for protection, just like Brunei.
This would stop all attempts by your government regarding the Falklands, and the British will remain where they are.
Something to think about.
@35: WTF Man... Are you sure you live in Argentina? Because I do and I can tell you we're far from being one of the richest countries in the world. Being a big country is irrelevant and I kind of agree with the beautiful.
AND DON'T FUCKING CALL THE FALKLANDS UGLY.
P.S: What's the problem with 'kelper'? Old or not, is a cute word.
“Argentina is a large country, I grant you that, but it has given nothing to the world except for the Tango, the UK can boast a much greater achievement.”
Honestly do you believe that crap?
Whatever you go and say English or British people reply...
No please don’t invade us today please take my wallet and my jewelry and everything you want but don’t kill me or rape me.
You are not conscious that more than a half of the world hates you?
Your giving to the world is like our invasion to the Bennies. The difference is that we are aware that was not good for them.
Instead if you would be us, you would be saying...
We bring freedom to the Island, Economy prosperity, thank to us people can point them in a map (no sure really) tourism, etc, etc and all the rubbish you can imagine.
Well here our real contribution:
We feed you when you were dying of hunger during the 2 world wars.
We received your lads in pain when escaping from famine, killings, etc in UK.
We have done the same for the rest of Europe that so easy forget in the good times.
The world owes to us more than we owe to them.
So Rimmer please take your generosity to Africa, China or the Middle East may be there will accepted your contribution to the world.
Oh! Wait a minute they also hate you.
Ah! The world is getting little and little...
Why the world hates British if they are so cool?
Any Answer?
Welll…………
Until now we got five (5) Islanders confirming that they don’t find the word “Kelper” to be offensive (Islander1, stillakelper, JoJo, WestisBest and MyaRu)
And zero (0) Islanders that consider it offensive.
(25) Justin Kuntz
For the record……………………………………............................................
I learned on my very first day, in here at MercoPress, that you systematically label people that disagree with you as racists:
“en.mercopress.com/2010/06/04/falklands-thick-fog-forces-two-raf-typhoons-and-tanker-to-land-in-punta-arenas
33 # But then thats what racist bigots do, they de-humanise people to justify their own inate prejudices.
45 # I called you a racist bigot because you do not see them as a people…………
50 # Think, the term Kelper used by an Argentine is considered to be hugely offensive…… Denying people their own identity is a form of racism.
53 # Ah, so you know the term is considered offensive but you still used it. But not racist eh?”
You Mr. Kuntz, are an exhibitionist who loves to play the “expert” in diverse internet forums.
You write openly in Facebook about mixing your anti-depressive medication with alcohol not being the smartest thing to do…..
You post pictures of Chagossian demonstrators in London telling us that that minuscule whitish speck in the background is you…………..
And then complain bitterly that people cyber-stalk you!
Get a life, you Turnip……………
”Instead if you would be us, you would be saying...
We bring freedom to the Island, Economy prosperity, thank to us people can point them in a map (no sure really) tourism, etc, etc and all the rubbish you can imagine.”
Actually that was pretty much the official line of the RG government of the time, and, unlikely as it may seem, what a lot of RG's actually believed about the Falklands invasion....or was it the liberation of the Falkland Islanders from the colonial opression of Britain...
;-)
You're completely wrong about our rights regarding residency in the UK. My passport is indistinguishable from any other British passport, except that it says 'issued in Stanley' on it. We can work in the UK and stay as long as we like. Many people do, especially young professional types like doctors and teachers who are gaining experience.
Anyway, you'll all be glad to know it's a lovely day here in the Falkland Islands. It's calm and fine and quite beautiful really. I'm sorry for you Martin if you never come here. You're missing something very special.
Oh and I don't mind 'Kelper', or 'Benny', sticks and stones and all that. I don't tend to use the word Argie or any other racial nickname, unless I get really cross, because it seems disrespectful. If there is a possibility that it might offend, then why do it?
”We bring freedom to the Island, Economy prosperity, thank to us people can point them in a map (no sure really) tourism, etc, etc and all the rubbish you can imagine.“
”The world owes to us more than we owe to them.”
Ahh, you can't beat a nice fresh bit of insanity to wake you up in the motning.
Lmao.
.....I know very well that 99% of what you said is Bullshit...have you forgotten I stumbled upon your Youtube profile quite by accident...does your Username: Nicodume ring a bell :)
Now lets see your trying to fudge the question like you always do (another trait of Nick Griffin)
You seem to have this unhealthy obsession with “muhameds” and seemingly have this idea that all Muslims are insane bearded types bent upon world domination.
You have this idea that all muslims come from Pakistan and call London Londonistan...
views held very similar by racist inbreds like Nick Griffin...
Now your views about muslims are frighteningly starling between him and you...
ergo you are a racist xenophobe and Nick griffin is your estranged father....
Hope that explains it for you Dumbkampf :)
ps...in the time I've been on mercopress...you have changed heritage at least 3 times!
At least be consistent when you bullshit dear fellow :)
Welll…………
Six (6) Islanders until now that don’t find the word “Kelper” to be offensive (Islander1, Stillakelper, JoJo, WestisBest, MyaRu and Monty69)
And still zero (0) Islanders that consider it offensive.
By the way;………….we Argentineans use the word because it is the one that, for us, better define you collectively, geographically and historically.
The only way it can be perceived as an insult is, of course, when combined with invectives, vulgar language or profanities.
Enjoy the calm sunny weekend in Malvinas…………
Thank you think, it's good to hear an Argentinian conceding that we have a distinct identity...now if you could just get your government to aknowledge that......
“You Mr. Kuntz, are an exhibitionist who loves to play the “expert” in diverse internet forums.
You write openly in Facebook about mixing your anti-depressive medication with alcohol not being the smartest thing to do…..
You post pictures of Chagossian demonstrators in London telling us that that minuscule whitish speck in the background is you…………..
And then complain bitterly that people cyber-stalk you!”
Interesting argument think, because someone is active on the internet they deserve to be cyberstalked....Hmmmm.....are you also one of those people who believe that young women who wear skimpy clothes deserve to get raped?
I'm not an Islander (though I'd love to) I live in Argentina (I said it in my post too)...
[ we can live with that]
we think argentina wins nothing without the hand of god,??
did you think we had forgotten .
Well we see “Think” hiding behind an anonymous pseudonym, trawling the Internet to try and pick up dirt on people to use to intimidate them from not posting on forums like Mercopress. It isn't just me you've done it to, there are several people here.
Strangely anyone who bests Think in logical argument is subjected to this, so that rather than replying he can resort to an ad hominem personal attack.
And we have the extreme of someone finding out my home number and ringing myup and threatening my mother, wife and children.
Hands up anyone who actually thinks that was his first day on Mercopress? Or is he like many Argentines it seems, someone who comes back under a variety of pseudoyms to agree with each other. And projects his own failings - Mercopress are free to examine my IP history I only ever use the one name but that hasn't stopped Think and his ilk of accusing me of using other identities. Don't judge others by your own low standards.
And check back matey, I didn't post that picture of the London demo for the rights of the Chagossians. I commented after it was posted. Lying again and again and again.
You say:
“Thank you Think, it's good to hear an Argentinean conceding that we have a distinct identity...”
I say:
What distinct identity?..You are Kelpers!.. Squatting British Kelpers :-)
(49) WestisBest
You say:
”Interesting argument think, because someone is active on the internet they deserve to be cyberstalked....”
I say:
No………….But if someone opts to insult, offend and demean anyone with a different opinion and simultaneously chooses to display himself different places on the Internet, is evident that he wants to be found………………
(50) MyaRu
My mistake….. Misread your post…. Sorry……You are off the Islander’s list :-)
(52) Mr. Justin his-head Kuntz
Your paranoia is getting out of control.
Last time “They” were threatening only You…..
Now “They” are threatening your mother, wife and children too….
Maybe “They” are those Argentinean commandos that disembarked in Malvinas leaving behind all that expensive equipment you so warmly commented on some month ago?
You say:
”I didn't post that picture of the London demo for the rights of the Chagossians. I commented after it was posted. Lying again and again and again.”
I say:
Ohhh… Yessss……….. You posted that picture!…… Let me refresh your “selective” memory:
en.mercopress.com/2010/11/17/uk-launches-new-overseas-territories-strategy-at-london-meeting
”24 JustinKuntz (#) Nov 18th
#11 www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/man-vs-marine-in-the-chagos-islands-1894560.html
Care to guess who the handsome white haired chap on the right of that photo is?”
What a Turnip...........
(53) Be serious
Ouchhhhhhhhh.......Are you serious?
You can always ignore insulting behavior or respond in kind, no need to stalk anyone think, as for choosing to display himself in different places on t'internet.....what of it?....most people do, Facebook, forums, news sites, nothing wrong with it. If you stalk people then you're the one with problems.
it is a pity to see,how little the argies are metalised about ecology,garbaga everywhere,they have twoo rivers riachuela and reconquista which have the highest ppollution of the world,people with sad faces,ill dressed ,it really is a country in decadence without future
“So size means everything to an Argentinean does it?”
Ask your wife or girlfriend and then call me back.
If she says “size doesn’t means anything to me” she is lying, because she doesn’t want to hurt your ego and because your pim, pim is soooo little.
Haha
@Be serious
“Argentinians actually love the British and want to be accepted within the Anglo-Saxon world”
Sorry mate but if we are 14.000 kms from your Angola-Sasson world and you came here in 1806-1807 and as you couldn’t get our love you took in 1833 our Islands by force to be close to us.
And you behave like an abandoned woman for her husband who cannot get him but takes his car and use the kids to call his attention, etc.
Is quite logic you have an obsession with us. Are we so cool?
The only one that seems to want to be accepted and actually love us are you mate.
In fact we want to send you back to your mother’s house but you refuse it.
Are you the lady of Fatal Attraction?
The only world that we want to get in is the “World Cup” and until now we have managed to do so quite well. haha
@Zethee
“motning” the correct spelling in English is morning, I thought that will help you to improve your English skills. Anyway you are doing quite well by the way.
: )
@Rhaurie-Craughwell
Talking about cyber stalkers haha
Gotcha!
You got me Mohammed. How smart you are. Haha
99% 1% can be a big mistake haha
By the way did I tell you that my name is not even Nico?
Bloody I forgot and you where searching like crazy for nothing. hahah
The rest is your assumption, talk about this in your session of therapy.
Dr. Why I get piss off when some racists call me Mohamed?
I don’t know Mohamed really may be you have to ask your father Nick why he gave that name to you.
You say:
”You can always ignore insulting behavior or respond in kind, no need to stalk anyone think”
I say:
I do not respond in kind and almost always ignore insults (yours too).
But if an insulting liar walks right into my living room with his name, surname and mental diagnosis printed on his forehead…….
Well…………….
Call me a Stalker then..................… because I’m reading it…………
Anyway just checked again and our brave flag still flies high and proud over our beautiful and it has to be said, extensive, South Atlantic territories. God Save the Queen.
But i wouldn't expect anything less from an Argentinean homunculus like yourself. If you ever grow a pair, then i would happily meet you face to face with my wife beside me. Where was she from again???
As for ”We bring freedom to the Island, Economy prosperity, thank to us people can point them in a map (no sure really) tourism, etc, etc and all the rubbish you can imagine”
Would this be the same freedom they received in 82? Somehow i don't think they would wish that sort of vermin in there country again. What Economic prosperity are you referring to?? I have witnessed nothing prosperous from Argentina, I don't think there are many people alive now a days who will remember when Argentina was a rich nation.
The world hates the British do they?? tell me, Mr Dim, how many countries have you visited in your life time. Ever been to Europe? Asia? Africa? I don't think so. A spineless blogger like yourself travelling extensively? Not a chance. Fuelled with venomous hatred of others that are so much better than yourself Nicodim.
I do pity you.
Regarding
en.mercopress.com/2010/11/17/uk-launches-new-overseas-territories-strategy-at-london-meeting
See post #2 on that thread, posted by xbarilox, so no I didn't post that picture, I merely commented on it. So again what I posted was accurate, I didn't post that picture I commented after it had been posted.
Why do you do you have to lie Think? Why do you have to go to such lengths to try and assinate my character? All the while hiding behind an anonymous pseudonym. You don't like it when people catch you lying and the truth of the matter is you're not particularly good at it.
You lie and you lie and you lie again, then when you're caught lying, red handed you spray accusations around like confetti to cover up the fact you're a compulsive liar.
You're a liar, a cyberstalker, very. very creepy and with an obsession for root vegetables. I think I can guess why.
You proudly posted that picture and call me and others a racist when I said ”all I see in that picture are African or Indian descent people,(Chagossians ethnicity by the way)and then cry to the editor to remove mine and others comments.
Liar
Chuckle chuckle……..
Didn’t you post that picture???
Noooo........ You re-posted it !!!
That’s even worst :-)))
By the way, only a Turnip wastes time reading anything xbarilox writes………
Get a life
if you like looking at pictures that bad, then im sure page 3 in the [sun] can help you., or you can spend all day looking at the united kingdom
the land you wish you was living in.
To quote yourself “And then complain bitterly that people cyber-stalk you!”
Is that not an admission that you did stalk him as he accuses you?
“Call me a Stalker then”
Alright, I will.
I know the correct spelling, Thanks. My english skills are perfectly fine. Spelling mistakes are the result of pressing a wrong key. I know how to spell morning.
If you look at your keyboard you will notice that T and R are directly beside eachother.
They are also a result of me having dyslexia.
Your own English skills aren't as good as you seem to think they are. Delusions of grandeur, perhaps? It's easy enough to spell check your words if you have the time or wish to. However, you often have a hard time stringing sentences together in a way which is grammatically correct.
I can see many examples in this thread alone. As you're going to become my “teacher” i shall strive to point out your own mistakes, it seems to be a game you enjoy.
“Better you take care of Londonistan”
“If I would be racist I should tell you that”
“And my brother also something like this”
“Here my contribution”
“Your giving to the world is like our invasion to the Bennies”
“Economy prosperity”
“thank to us people can point them in a map ”
“no sure really”
“etc, etc”
“Well here our real contribution”
“Middle East may be there will accepted your contribution to the world.”
“The world is getting little and little”
“Why the world hates British if they are so cool”
“any answer?”
“Is quite logic you have an obsession with us”
“Bloody I forgot and you where searching”
“I get piss off”
I look forward to our next lession.
you don’t have to explain,
I have a bad habit of misspelling things, and i often forget the spell checker,
but as i have said before, and you too, and others, spelling is not compulsory here, we all make errors, but to criticises is stupidity beyond question.
don’t worry about it, i don’t and im sure other will not. Briton]
You could have omitted the word 'beef' in statement.
From sunny freezing Stockholm
Any more Islanders who care to give their opinion about the “Kelper”word?
(Until now we have five (5) Islanders that don’t find the word “Kelper” to be offensive. (Islander1, Stillakelper, JoJo, WestisBest and Monty69))
Tell that to Wikipedia’s Gibraltar, Falklands/Malvinas and the Imperial System keybord warrior: Mr. Justin Kuntz aka Wee Curry Monster :-)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelpers
”Kelpers is a nickname given to Falkland Islanders because the islands are surrounded by large seaweeds called kelp.
This term is no longer used as commonly as it once was (largely because it has been used in a derogatory manner by Argentines).[citation needed] Instead most prefer “Falkland Islanders” or even “Bennies”.[according to whom?]”
If you wish to continue our discussion it will be in English, you may use my last post and rewrite it accordingly.
I'll be on the edge of my seat, Waiting.
If you insist upon trolling every single Falklands video on Youtube and post in english under the name “Nicodume”, then of course you're going to get yourself noticed it doesn't take a genius to then put one and two together moron...as i said I stumbled across you purely accident when looking up that documentary “Fight for the Falklands”. so no stalking buddy...you just advertised your presence and as a regular reader of Mercopress one put one and two together :)
I know your names not Nico Numbskull... I think I realised that the ummmm first day you began posting your youtube specials?....Its probably short for Nicolas.
Have no idea what you rambling on about here! “Dr. Why I get piss off when some racists call me Mohamed? I don’t know Mohamed really may be you have to ask your father Nick why he gave that name to you”
So in conclusion:
You are a xenophobic racist who has an unhealthy fear of Muslim people....and the logical assumption is that Nick Griffin on a back packing Holiday pro created with a female member of your family and his genes which lead him to fear anybody associated with the word “Islam”...to you...simple eh ka-pische?
Its only logical considering the amount of time you must spend typing “Islam, Britain and extremism” into either Google or Youtube, bet you even have them bookmarked so you can deploy them in some bizarre attempt to try an argument? :)
I see you've gone silent on your heritage now hahah :)
Repeating what I said in Spanish would be following your stupid “rule” and I'm not going to do that because a retarded ape like you is not going to tell me what to do.
If you're here to debate (though I think you're here just to troll because you have no life) is utterly stupid to use a language that the other people cannot understand properly. Your “rule” is just a way to hamper the communication and intelligent people who know what are they saying never do something like that.
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kelpers&oldid=142234600http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kelpers&oldid=142234600
Lying again Think and repeating a lie already exposed.
“If you wish to continue our discussion it will be in English, you may use my last post and rewrite it accordingly. I'll be on the edge of my seat, Waiting.”
Muchas gracias amigo, pero así me va fenómeno.
Hasta luego amigo.
@Rhaurie-Craughwell
Put your money where you mouth is and accept my bet now of U$s 50.000.
If my real name is Nico and if I’m not European I will pay you this amount in cash.
But if I’m European and my name is not Nico you will pay me U$s30.000.
And if my brother is not readhead I will give you U$s100.000 and if he is readhead (natural or course) you pay me U$s50.000
I’m being very generous I will wait for your answer and don’t be coward is a secure bet for you.
Like Zethee sea dart anti-missile system haha.
I’ve Passport, Citizen certification, ID card, etc.
Have we got a deal?
Paypal, Western Union, USA checks, credit cards and money transfer available.
: )
What exactly about me and the sea dart missile system?
I seem to remember you linking a video of one failing to launch, to which i replied that the sea dart is the only missile system in the world to be proven to work in combat.
Also, it's an air defence missile system, not an anti missile system. it can, however shoot down missiles(and is proven to work).
thus the turncoat-turns ..
Having gone from an argument about your unfortunate xenophobic attitude to Muslims and most likely other races who don't meet your approval....to a bizarre attempt to fleece me of money because your brother has redhair (obviously he was not the product of daliances with Nick Griffin!) and some bizarre belief that everyone here was fooled into believing Nicodim is a real name....lol as you said Griffin is a loser...like father like son eh Nicolarse?
So in conclusion, your a racist xenophobe Nick Griffin is your father.....your real name is Nicolas and you spend every waking hour on your youtube account (Nicodume) trolling Falklands videos and trying to find something to ace British posters here...usually not very well lol.
O gara bugger of back to the Irish pub ya plastic Irishman, I know you're opinions....and their utter pig swill.....and I certainly know your not Irish....still waiting for this massive economic collapse you've been predicting in “England” :) utter tool!
I said you'd made your point, not that I particularly agreed with it.
You don't hear 'Kelper' used much. People seem not to like it. I don't much care for it myself, but I don't have strong feelings either way.
I don't think 6 out of 3000 is statistically significant.
“If you are truly a European then surely your loyalty should be with your European partners”
Why do you have doubts and you want to bet too?
I don’t support raptors, predators, lairs and no honest people. Viva Argentina Malvinas Argentinas.
@Rhaurie-Craughwell
“I know very well that 99% of what you said is Bullshit...have you forgotten I stumbled upon your Youtube profile quite by accident...does your Username: Nicodume ring a bell”
Then you say “I see you've gone silent on your heritage now hahah”
And you say that, because you think you got a picture of me, from the profile of Nico-Dume in his facebook.
You are not enough intelligent to hide your intention from someone like me, sir.
So as learning cost (especially in UK) my bet offer still is available.
If you believe that I’m the guy you have found in face book as Nico Dume so accept my bet and you will be U$s100.000 or U$s50.000 richer. And I will lose U$s 100.000 or U$s50.000 and will be the perfect stupid and you will accomplish your objective.
If you are wrong the cost of your lesson will be just U$s30.000 or U$s50.000.
Is not too much especially from someone from a rich country like UK.
Or, am I wrong and your standards of living doesn’t allows you to cover this much?
Until now the only one looking silly even among your lads is you, coward Big mouth strikes again.
Its very easy a win/win situation for you.
Waiting for your answer.
Nothing, but for Mr. Rhaurie-Craughwell makes sense as he is calling me a liar, as you can see below quoting parts of his posts:
--------Start RC Q -------------------
“I know very well that 99% of what you said is Bullshit...have you forgotten I stumbled upon your Youtube profile quite by accident...does your Username: Nicodume ring a bell”
“I see you've gone silent on your heritage now hahah”
----------End RC Q---------------
So he is convinced that I’m Nicodume and insist on it and as he has not brain at all, he is using the racist stuff to support his point that I’m a racist. Because I use the name Mohammed to refer to brits when he from the very beginning was using Dumbkampf, Spanish, Italian, Nazis, etc.
“Well done Dumbkampf with such idiotic logic you've just de-legitimized your own right of existance in America!”
And as he is a racist in the closet and a Big mouth coward who cannot stand or back all the rubbish he says, I thought to make his sitcom more interesting adding few Quids.
So I challenge him to accept my bet.
That’s it.
The coward never responded and is eluding the answer with more rubbish.
: )
Do you just want no competition while you plunder Antarctica?
We were in the South Atlantic before you were, so you leave and we'll stay here. oh and by the way, when is your country going to give back the lands that it stole from Paraguay and Chile? -answer please.
@NicoDin,Nicholas, l'd just call it a day if l were you.All your arguments have been shot to shreds. have a mug of coffee and curl up with a good book. ..........you can't win here.
Btw- do we count you in the “half the world hates you” group? You said on another post that you didn't hate us, but l believe that you do.
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l don't think Nico & Think are the same person; their grammar is different. Unless of course the real Think(or Nico)is a lot smarter than l think! ha ha.Got my suspicions about a few other of them though. But then, who really cares.
Lol.
I’ don't hate you or any other Islander, British, African, Pakistan, or whatever.
I’ only have an exchange of opinions with “Rhaurie-Craughwell” who call me a lair.
That’s all lady nothing serious that we cannot set with few $$$ haha
“l don't think Nico & Think are the same person”
You are absolutely right : )
@Zethee
“U$s” United $tates dollars (s) plural haha
Convince Rhaurie-Craughwell that he is right and we go fifty/fifty. haha.
The one major difference we islanders have with Argentina is that we never murdered any indigenous people to settle our homeland. You know it would have been so much nicer if Argentina was where Chile is and Chile was our closet neighbor. The Chileans are a very decent people and we Islanders have been proud to have known them for as long as we have. Maybe that is the reason for this difference of opinion. Maybe it is correct Argentines are nothing but spoiled brats and are jealous of the Chilean Falkland Island friendship. To think if you were the goody goody chaps you could have been enjoying our way of life as well. Never mind a great opportunity lost.
Read and learn Mr. Kuntz :-)))
Although, if that was the aim, I don't think this article (mercopress) presented a particularly balanced view of the comments. After reading through a few pages of the comments on the original article, there seems to be quite a divide among the Chilean posters, some favouring the Islanders' position and others favouring Argentina's, but the only pro-Argentina comment selected for this mercopress piece was from an Argentine poster.
Don't get me wrong, I support the Falkland islanders and their right to not be forced into being an Argentine colony, but I don't think that this piece gives a true representation of the divided feelings expressed in the comments.
“You know it would have been so much nicer if Argentina was where Chile is and Chile was our closet neighbor. The Chileans are a very decent people and we Islanders have been proud to have known them for as long as we have.”
Well seems you have resolved the problem mate.
So we only need to invade “Isla de Pascua” es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_de_Pascua
Then claim it for Argentina and then we switch on.
Kelpers go to Isla de Pascua and Argies to Malvinas, you will close to your nice decent Chileans neighbours and the new population will save you to be close of the nasty Argies.
Where do we have to sing?
By the way for few Quids we will exchange the islands for the whole Chile if you want.
You've got it the wrong way. It's $, USD or US$. Not U$s.
U$s would translate into United Dollar States.
The correct symbol is USD (currency code).
But here we write in both ways as you can see here in a business publication ambito.com
www.ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=567864
And the symbol $ is Spanish from the Spanish dollar in the beginning used 2 pillars representing the pillars of Hercules. The Spanish currency was in circulation in US’s territory before the existence of the US dollar.
So we right as we wish haha.
I just said that...
I never once said that the $ symbol is not the sign for the spanish dollar.
Still doesn't make ”U$s” a real abbreviation of USD.
Think, I've changed my mind, actually I do find the use of the word 'kelper' highly offensive........
”six(6) Islanders that don’t find the word “Kelper” to be offensive.”
(back down to five now think, har har)
Couldn't do a worse job than the current president.
Thanks God, Mr. Sohr didn't call Stanley, “Puerto Argentino.” Having been there several times, I can certify that Stanley is as “argentino” as is North Waziristan.
It didn't occur to Mr. Sohr to really interview a Chilean resident, of the 250 he says are living in the Falklands. Neither he thought of writing about the old Chile-Falklands friendship. He called repeatedly the Islanders “kelpers,” using the antiquated Argie pejorative term. Mr. Sohr lost no time in repeating cliches from the Argentinean colonialist glossary.
A question should be raised: For which “La Nacion” newspaper does he write? For the one situated in Santiago or the other, located in Buenos Aires? It is not at all clear to the neutral, objective reader.
Saludos, Philippe
I see no evidence of this at all.
It is totally unrelistic to think that Argentina would invade another mainland South American country, or indeed any territory or island owned by another mainland South American country.
But today Kirchner does not run a dictatorship and the military are not running her. It would take a VERY foolhardy democratic leader to invade by force of arms a neighbouring South American state. The Argentinan government are not boxed into this corner even with the present inflation rate, unemployment etc. so, if the question were asked of Chileans today, much less than 89% would be worried about invasion. This might be different, however, if Chile had lots of oil and Argentina had none.
Also during the war the argentine armed forces gave information of their movements to the state department of USA ,up till the moment USA sided with GB.
Of course this info was sent to GB.
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