Argentina recalls 35 years of one of its darkest periods in recent history
Thousands of Argentines took to the streets of Buenos Aires and other cities Thursday evening under the slogan “Memory, truth and justice” to evoke 35 years of the last military coup that left a toll of an estimated 30.000 killed and disappeared detainees.
The march takes place when the head of the first military Junta that ousted the elected government on 24 March 1976, General Jorge Videla is in jail sentenced to life imprisonment and is facing another trial for the disappearance and kidnapping babies from political prisoners.
Humanitarian organizations among which Mothers of Plaza de Mayo and Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo packed at least twenty blocks of central Buenos Aires Avenida de Mayo as they marched towards Government House in Plaza de Mayo.
They carried a 200 metres long Argentine flag and photos of the thousands of disappeared.
“We never expected to achieve what we have achieved”, admitted Hebe de Bonafini, leader of the Mothers of Mayo. So far 200 former officials have been sentenced and another 800 face trials.
“Trial and punishment to the civilian ideologues and accomplices”, read other banners carried by the march. The reference was to the civilians who under the Standing assembly of business associations, APEGE, called for the ousting of the Isabel Peron administration in 1976 and its replacement by a military government with civilian ministers in clue ministries as Economy, Planning, Agriculture, Industry, Central bank.
The master mind behind the political move was economist and farmer Jose Martinez de Hoz, currently under trial for alleged links to extortive kidnappings at the time including fellow businessmen.
Martinez de Hoz, members of the military Juntas and hundreds of other military and police officers benefited from amnesties under the government of President Carlos Menem in 1989 and 1990, but they were overturned when the Kirchner couple took office in 2003.
Under the new Argentine calendar March 24 is the National Day for the Memory, Truth, and Justice Holiday and calls on citizens to think over what happened during the last of the many dark and violent periods that Argentines experienced throughout history.
One of the most notorious torture centres during the 1976/1983 dictatorship, the Navy’s Mechanical School and its vast grounds have now been converted into the Memory Museum and conference halls for educational and cultural activities.
“Since the return of democracy in 1983, 200 people have been sentenced including all members of the military Juntas. Another 820 are facing legal actions including 400 already sentenced for at least one crime”, according to Argentina’s Prosecutor’s Office.
Another demand from the marchers was the “Identity restitution for the stolen children”. This refers to the over 500 babies kidnapped when born in captivity and fathered by disappeared detainees. So far 102, thanks to the persistence from the Mothers and Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo have been recovered from step families and given their proper names.
During the seven year dictatorship, the military had over 500 official and clandestine detention centres where prisoners were systematically tortured, eventually killed and babies from pregnant women stolen, sold or given away.
The dictatorship came to an end in 1983 following on the 1982 Falklands’ fiasco when the military invasion of the South Atlantic islands was defeated by a British task force sent by PM Margaret Thatcher.
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NEVER AGAIN
““We never expected to achieve what we have achieved”, admitted Hebe de Bonafini, leader of the Mothers of Mayo.”
But you did....
Thank you so much girls.............
this not true , just distraction tactic.
would it be the mask of the Army's frame-up ,quasi Malvinas
invasion operation April-2-1982 !!??
And others, still, this is only a protest march, is it not ??.
#7-- Exactly .!
Very simple you say?:
1. The guy that killed Gral. Villar had a restaurant in South Texas (reported missing)
2. One of the guys that was responsible for crossing arms from Uruguayana to Corrientes (Montoneros) had a night club in Reynosa, Mexico (also missing)
3. 4 people were found (also Montoneros) in the earthquake (reported missing) in 1987 ....
Do I continue? Those are people that I meet in person . Can you discount those from the 30,000?
Very simple I say!:
Of course we can discount them!
Not necesary to name them by name. (Sweet of you to protect their privacy 35 years after:-)
We trust fully in the word of an Argentinean officer and a gentleman like you………..
30.000 – 6 = 29.994
But.......Please, please…..please........Continue the good work!
Only 29.994 missing now……..
I could give you some names..............................
you all and i know that this social tumult has being only a mechanism.
the question is simple ;
why was the army attempt to Malvinas invasion -1982
to acquire the islands ? No ! then why ?
(a fake African country army doesn't even make this kind of operation)
the answer is complex.
@10. were the Falklands a terrorist threat in 82 then? you're full of crap mate.
@13 i'm not talking about Malvinas at all !! and back then I did not agree with the operation BUT I'm not discussing that right now
@ Think ! when are we going to have the pleasure to send “the terrorist” to justice like they did it to us ???? Never! do you know why? because they are part of the existing government. Like I encountered a couple of people (missing) but very much alive , I'm pretty sure you cann find more somewhere else !! Viva la Patria Carajo !!!!!!!!!!
I don't think the Army was planning a militar operation for
social distraction while World Cup games there !
Precisely there was some honkeyponkey !
What an opportunity...what an opportunity for UK...
Falkland Islanders were granted full British citizenship from
January 1/ 1983 under the British Nationality ( Falkland Island)
Act/ 1983 !
converting the opportunity to grab....
You Islanders just have starboard not flag !
You say:
”Think ! When are we going to have the pleasure to send “the terrorist” to justice like they did it to us ????
I say:
You had your ”pleasure” boy……. From 1976 to 1983…… You certainly had your ”pleasure”.
You say:
”Like I encountered a couple of people (missing) but very much alive, I'm pretty sure you can find more somewhere else”
I say:
For each ”missing” you could find alive, I could find five unreported missing persons during the years you had the ”pleasure” of imparting your ”justice” on all of us.
Didn’t your comrades of the “Task Groups” (Grupos de Tareas) ever told you what they did when they got bored from the political prisoners?
Didn’t your comrades of the “Task Groups (Grupos de Tareas) ever told you how they went out hunting for some “fresh meat” in the shanty towns?
Didn’t your comrades of the “Task Groups (Grupos de Tareas) ever told you about the young “negritas”, “parditas” or “bolitas” they snatched to serve them mate, clean the fuc**** place, have some “extreme fun” and then make disappear?
Did they?
Did you?
?
(i) I lived through and admired the work of Simon Wiesethal in remorselessly, and over a long life, hunting down his every last German/Austrian nazi until he breathed his last breath.
(ii) I lived through and admired the work of Nelson Mandela who, after many years of incarceration, pressed for the Peace and Reconciliation process after the amnesty followed the collapse of Apartheid in South Africa.
In Argentina - following, arguably, high-grade state terrorism - there is the worst of all worlds - amnesties, de-amnesties, amnesties, de-amnesties; freedom through forgiveness, punishment and incarceration, freedom through forgiveness, punishment and incarceration.
In Brasil, A Presidenta wants to overturn the amnesy afforded to all participants, but only to bring charges against the military side (lower-grade state terrorism?) - the terroristas/freedom fighters are given pensions for their contribution.
One-sided de-amnistification seems to be the worst of the worst of all worlds, but it is perhaps understandable because so many international terrorist/revolutionaries are in high government office in a number of South American nations.
Mandela has set the bar very high indeed, but can ANY South American nation clear it. It is, perhaps, just the sign of political and social maturity that the United Nations is looking for.
. . . . Time, I think to sit back and wait for my mate Forgetit to show me other sides to these many histories.
If you believe the Argentine Army -- Brits collaboration made
then you can't use -- opportunity-- word for Brits .
There could be a fragment of a strategy.
No one is virtuous monument .....even if they are soldiers .
Here is one.
www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/24/argentina.dirty.war/index.html?iref=allsearch
#17/ Geoff... have you heard Rahm Alexander name
who was Obama's chief of staff , is mayor of Chicago nowadays !
do you want to search his family history ?
just a clue...go to Israel establishment years .........
@23 ... Martin_Fierro (que no es tu nombre) te pregunto, quien empezo el quilombo? vos te acordas o no tenes edad para acordarte, and like you said, there is NO EXCUSE for Montoneros, ERP and Co for the crimes they committed either
You mean Rahm Emanuel. Yep, he's one of those “Chicago boys”. Geotard doesn't know his history, Like most people in the US, certainly not in Chicago, where they “Love” him like the Dayley family.
search his Dr. dad...go to Israel infancy years !
www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/24/argentina.dirty.war/index.html?iref=allsearch
Carlos Eliceche, new elected governor in Chubut.
First victory in Catamarka….
Now victory in Ch(k)ubut …..
Four More Years for Kristina :-)
my searchs say that ;
Rahm Emmanuel's dad was doctor ,Irgun mob member who killed many
people which one of them was 1931 British military headquarters King David Hotel attacking which killed 91 killed...also was a Haganah group member too...
This family has been highly expert on killing,kidnapping,identity exchange...etc have made many professional operations in Africa,
South America countries...
They have few companies which related car dealership,pasific
foreign trade....in US.
They seem as middle class in US accounts but have respectable fortune
at off-shore and Brits banks...
Now,he is on the seat of Chicago in the antiterrorist US.!!!
I'm familiar with Rahm, origins, Irgun, 'Stern Gang', creation of Israel, etc, etc.
What's the point you are directing me to? Are you asking me to chose between reconciliation or retribution into the next generation - surely not!
@16Think, you are making me cry.
Think & Artillero601, lt takes two to tango, senors.
Let us not forget that, had the unsupported Falklands operation been fully successful, i.e. had Britain not responded with military force, the next part of the plan was the seizure of the Beagle Channel islands already ruled to belong to Chile by the Court of Arbitration in 1977. Another “unsupported” action that would, no doubt, have resulted in dancing in the streets.
In may take “Two to Tango” ………. but those “lead years” where more like Odette’s solo performed by a mad Ronkedoor on an anthill.
True ! I didn't know their companies & money..just learned
but don't take off a detail which is the practicing of Qaddafi's
near elite guards & intelligence in Nijer by Israel and by them !
Let's observe how Nato will save Qaddafi ......what a racket !!!
An authentic Argentinean story…………………….
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ctor_Germ%C3%A1n_Oesterheld
desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/o/oesterheld/beatriz.html
desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/o/oesterheld/marina.html
desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/o/oesterheld/diana.html
desaparecidos.org/arg/victimas/o/oesterheld/estela.html
Hey Artillero…………..
You being such a good detective……….
Could you find me Marina’s and Diana’s babies?
Will this BBQ take place at a ranch in Crawford Texas by any chance?
Prejudice and low standard “journalism”, Mercopress's defining attributes.
We weren't talking to you guys, insecure little man... you were probably the one who ran home to 'mum' and told Mercopress we were writing in Spanish.
You people are so sad...
@46 ... i don't like Bush so the BBQ is going to be at my house , ok?
@Think .... the moment that “you people” send the killers of Gral Aramburu, Cnl Larrabure, Capt Viola .....and Tcnl Gonzalez Cutielos (heroe of La Tablada) to jail , I will help you find whatever you are looking for !!!!!!!!
I was simply pointing out to you that the site is a global website, it is an english one hence www.en. at the start of the web address, and that merco press as a global news site based in south atlantic and they choose to use english as they are trying to establish themselves as global news agency. Critising me and throwing insults at me, for pointing that out to you is just childish and immature.
You say you weren't talking to us guys, sorry but as this is a public comment board you are talking to everyone that reads the comments. i do not mind you talking spanish as i can translate it, so it doesn't actually bother me what langauge you speak. I unlike you do not disrespect people for their choice of langauge so long as it is not insultive, vulgar or offensive.
Your reaction was simply way over the top. And as for insecure little man. Well am a multi-millionaire businessman (yep pretty secure financial and pyschologically) am 14 stone in weight, 6 feet 3 inches tall and a former amateur kickboxer (still practicing but no longer competitively). So lets see you call me a insecure little man to my face, and i'll show you just how wrong you are. You see i stand up to bullies like you and its funny how after 1 roundhouse to the head they either don't get up for a while or they get up and flee as fast as their legs can carry them.
South-atlantic news my ass
Uh, by the way... I thought Mercopress was run from Uruguay. “the site is a global website, it is an english one hence www.en”
I knew all along it was a Brit site, it's just funny how you clowns keep contradicting each other, senile dementia I guess.
I agree that it does have a bit of a bias in favour of the Falklanders. Do you also point out bias when it is anti-Brit/Falklander on Spanish language sites covering similar topics?
Gracias... (that means Thanks estupidos, don't run home to mum)
fislatino.com/fis/companies/details.asp?l=s&filterby=activities&activity_id=1676&page=1&company_id=23106&country_id=
Interesting, will have to look into it.
“abanico de oportunidades en varios campos del momento que desde el hemisferio norte se la identifica como quizá uno de las pocas prístinas o “por descubrir” que van quedando en el mundo”
Sounds like a badly translated statement
'Se la' cannot be followed by 'uno', and 'prístinas'... pristine is a very common word in English but I have never heard it used in Spanish, not in its direct equivalent.
It shouldn't be hard to see if this address is really an office or just a front for an agency that isn't really there.
Thank you Marcos
www.businessinsider.com/sequoia-rip-good-times-2011-3
So “el Think” is from Argentina not form Uruguay, it doesn't matter, he doesn't like me anyways .....lol!!!!!
“FIS is the most comprehensive web site for the commercial fishing industry. It serves the fishing, aquaculture and seafood industries by concentrating news, ...”
They love fish like the islanders, they hate penguins.
Does this”Proceso de Reorganización Nacional” jargon sound good enough in your Tex-Arg ears?
An unfortunate series of events... lol
Yeah! What He said... ;-)
No pibe, I ”owe” you nothing…………………
Just remembered another ”pearl” from the Proceso de Reorganización Nacional:
*ARGENTINA, ÁMELA O DÉJELA!
Was it TEJAS, (Estados Unidos) you are now?
*(Argentina, love her or leave her!)
No questions.
You are like an open book.
If you ever should pass through Chubut (or the Shoshone N.F.)…….
............................................................................ Don't ask for el Think.
Apparently you have nothing to hide…….. Let me “guess” now…..
In 82 you where a young cadet in Palomar so you couldn’t participate in the “Patriotic Feat of 76-82”….
You can recite by hearth every battle the Argentinean army has participated in since 1810, but you are unable to spell “Grupo de Tareas” properly…..
You are quite fond of your surname’s “uniformed” tradition…
I live in Chubut…………. and no, we are certainly not having a Smoko together.
I bet you call me an insecure little man, because that is the only insult you seem have... did someone call you an insecure little man once, and now you are over compensating because you know you are an insecure little man?
www.flickr.com/photos/61199179@N06/5571670080/sizes/l/
Come on Lewis Clifton, quit deleting our posts!!
lol
Please… No insults …….
I would rather slit my wrists open with a pencil eraser than consider the possibility of having anything to do with the SIDE.
My ”educated guesses” are just deduced from info you provided:
Your nick….: Artillero601…. Ergo: Army…… Ergo: CMN
Your dichotomy between genuine interest / preset bias about recent Argentinean history + your anger but no “messianic hate” against the “zurditos”…. ..Ergo: Camada posterior al 83.
Your casual “Name Dropping” when giving your Email…….. (I must confess, it hit me as a 155mm)…. Last “Uniform” I knew with that surname didn’t like us at all. (nor the Chileans)
More interetingly...where does Nilda Garre come from? and CK? student activist! Do you really want to know what they did at the Universities?
it is 1975 all over again...it is a matter of time!
You say:
“Do you really want to know what they did at the Universities?”
I say:
Yes I do. Please tell me. With some links and proof.
Yes I do. Please tell me. With some links and proof.
Yes I do. Please tell me. With some links and proof.
Yes I do. Please tell me. With some links and proof.
Yes I do. Please tell me. With some links and proof.
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