Sunday, September 18th 2011 - 12:26 UTC

Falkland Islands: 2016 for oil says Rockhopper but Islanders cautious

Rockhopper Exploration’s announcement this week that they expect to begin pumping oil in 2016, set the international media off on a further round of speculation about future wealth, but Falklands stakeholders and interested parties are taking a more cautious approach.

Director of Mineral Resources Phyl Rendell

The company said production from the Sea Lion discovery made in 2010 will be ramped up to around 120,000 barrels of oil per day by 2018, however, Director of Mineral Resources Phyl Rendell told Penguin News “Rockhopper Exploration are working up their conceptual plans for development of the Sea Lion field because they need to establish what the costs might be to produce hydrocarbons from the field. Then they can ascertain if these funds can be raised to develop it.”

There was a need to share the information with investors because they need to know when they might start to get a return on any funds they commit to the project, hence a production date of 2016 is being quoted, said Mrs Rendell.

“Obviously a production phase offers opportunities for local companies and unlike exploration, there would be continuity of work so that investment in infrastructure can be considered,” she said.

An Oil & Gas Development Group, a sub-group of the Economic Development Strategy working group, is currently considering what policies and guidelines should be adopted to enable local companies to secure contracts for both exploration and production phases. Training and certification for employees is one area which has already been identified as a need to meet industry standards.

A development phase would have an impact on the Falkland Islands Government (FIG) including the Department of Mineral Resources, explained Mrs Rendell.

There will need to be more regulations to manage offshore activities during production and the department will need to manage the assessment of development plans that are required to be submitted by oil companies for approval. This is an open process, similar to that for EIAs, (Environmental Impact Assessment) when the public will be able to comment on the plans.

Mrs Rendell said revenue to FIG would not come from a production phase, apart from acreage rents, until oil is produced and royalties paid.

However, exploration activities already create considerable benefits to the economy with companies buying services (tax on workers, FIPASS berthing fees, water, electricity etc) and paying tax on business generated by the oil industry.

“It is hard to say at this stage what level of funds would be received from production. These details are yet to be submitted to FIG as part of a development plan,” Mrs Rendell said. Rockhopper Exploration made the announcement at a Capital Markets Presentation on Wednesday where it was noted that development costs to first oil production was expected to be in the region of $2 billion.

The company expected to complete its concept engineering studies in the first quarter of 2012 and shortly after to begin its Front-End Engineering Design (FEED).

The FEED is expected to be completed and submitted to the Falkland Islands Government in the first quarter of 2013, by which time Rockhopper would expect to have awarded the contracts to the Floating Production Storage and Offloading (FPSO) provider and subsea contractor.

Accounting for all outstanding payments for the previous well drilled, Rockhopper estimates that it will have cash resources of $170 million. The company is therefore said to be fully funded to complete the current well, and the remaining two committed drilling slots that it has with the Ocean Guardian.

Rockhopper is considering its position as to whether it will take up any additional options on the Ocean Guardian (PN)


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1 stick up your junta (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 12:41 pm Report abuse
Come on in Argies, the water is lovely :-)))))))
2 geo (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
Ms Phyl Rendell ' s face is the same of my big aunt(grandfather's sister).!
3 Be serious (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
Bloody hell its about to become reality. Who'd have thought it?
4 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 04:08 pm Report abuse
“they need to establish what the costs might be to produce hydrocarbons from the field..

”There was a need to share the information with investors because they need to know when they might start to get a return on any funds they commit to the project”
Sounds like Mrs Rendell is beginning to open the umbrella to protect herself from future wild broke sheeps, not to worry, James is ready to help.
5 Conqueror (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
Notice this. Rockhopper is cautiously optimistic as befits a responsible company

Falkland Islands Government is cautious as befits a responsible government.

Argentines = losing numpties.
6 Beef (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
RKH give a presentation, the FIG is preparing legislation required for an oil exporting nation and the UK is in hand to maintain security. All the pieces of the puzzle are slotting into place.

Slowly and professionally we start the march to commencing oil production that could dwarf the North Sea.

Beef, buying as the cash flow permits ;-)
7 briton (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
even before the oil flows, we must be ready
bla bla bla bla
and argentina is off, moaning and groning, crying , claiming is was all stolen
who will listen , who will take action, who will back her up,
no one, and the oil will flow and flow and flow, and argentina
can do nothing but bla bla bla.
long live the oil .??
8 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
Talking about British theft...

Libya: Tony Blair and Col Gaddafi's secret meetings

“Nice piccy of two friends.
One, a deceitful, lying,murderous megalomaniac.....the other Gaddafi!”
9 Beef (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
Marcos - old phrase, “keep your friends close and your enemies even closer”! Makes those enemies easier to defeat!

Now you still haven't admitted you were wrong and that Beef was right! I thought you would be used to it by now!

Arf, Arf!
10 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 10:07 pm Report abuse
Yes you were right Beef, you are a bunch of thieves.
11 malen (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
another old phrase: “tal para cual” thats what you are in relation with Kadhaffi and others; or in reality worst
ay ay ay and they want to teach us what peace is, what democracy is, what freedom is, what human rights are......
and if you dont agree with them you are a communist or trotskist
12 Redhoyt (#) Sep 18th, 2011 - 11:32 pm Report abuse
“ ... Now the Foreign and Commonwealth Office is to meet with leading investors in the City and offer reassurances that Britain will protect its Overseas territory in the South Atlantic and that they are fully committed to the Islands’ defence...”
13 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 12:11 am Report abuse
Nice post Rotted, is it homemade? :-)
14 Redhoyt (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 01:35 am Report abuse
Try reading the Sunday Times Morecrap !

Or this - “ ... The City, however, is concerned that Argentina could attempt to assert a new claim of sovereignty over the Falklands. Hence, senior officials from the Foreign Office have agreed to meet big investors in Falkland Islands oil explorers to reassure them the government is “fully committed to the defence” of the islands....”

You could try this too -

15 lost1 (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 01:58 am Report abuse
@ Marcos Alejandro

So you like Gadaffi. That explains a lot. So you find it strange that 99.999% of the Libyan people don't like him and the only people he can find to fight for him are Chadian mercenaries from areas of Chad that benefited under his rule? Even Press TV have had to admit no one seems to like him, after they spend weeks claiming everyone loved him!

With the logic that Britain has robbed the Lilyan's in some way, I can understand why you would be so upset about the Falkland Islands. The belief held by so many of your countrymen that the people of the Falklands are really Argentine and they don't like being under the British flag is another idea totally divorced from reality and underlines the level of news reporting and education in your country. Either that or there is a kind of creative thought process, divorced completely from the real world!

Looking at it that way, it would be easy to understand how the Nazi's believed the German's were the master race, how Poland was free under the jackboot and how the Jews, Slavs, Homosexuals, Political Dissidents, Gypsies, etc were liberated by the slave labour / extermination camps! Oh and the common belief in 1940's Argentina that Britain was on the side of the evil ones during WW2!

Have I committed a crime by referring to the Falkland Islands by the name the people who live there want them called? Maybe I should be shot?

Maybe you share the same belief as Think, that only those islanders willing to speak Spanish and adopt a Argentine identity and conform to Argentine norms and customs should be allowed to live there after you have invaded the islands again?

16 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 03:20 am Report abuse
15 lost1 No I don't like Gadaffi but seems like your former prime minister was in bed with him for a long time.

“islanders willing to speak Spanish and adopt a Argentine identity”
Ahh James Peck.
17 Think (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 04:33 am Report abuse
This is the second thread in which this Anglo Turnip, “Mr. Lost1” uses the “Reductio ad Hitlerum”

Thank’s god for Godwin's law!
18 Beef (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 05:58 am Report abuse
Marcos - if we are thieves then what are you, cowards?
19 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 10:43 am Report abuse
for the one that is lost1.......whenever it is mentioned iraq afghanistan libya you come with communism trotskism fascism and nazi cant defend what you are doing there....
dictators are bad but you are worst....10 years of war in Afghanistan 1.000.000 people been killed for peace? where is the peace? for oil and occupation and colonization
20 lost1 (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 10:51 am Report abuse
@ Think - First of all I am not a Mr, but Miss & not a Turnip.

Everything is “a Reductio ad Hiterum” to those who secretly (or not) harbour fascist beliefs and my deduction is that the vast majority of your compatriots posting on this sight habour those beliefs, as demonstrated by their posts (and there lack of ability to see the Falklands in any way other than what they have been preprogrammed by your governments propaganda), whether they realise it or not. The historical line I draw goes back through Argentine history and demonstrates a continuation of a way of thinking in your country long since relegated to the loonies virtually everywhere else in the world. This despite your history.

If we were to reverse the position of the UK and Argentina, where-by the UK claimed las malvinas and Argentina 8,000 miles away governed the islands and wished to get rid of them but was hidebound by the population of those islands and sort to negotiate them away. But then the UK, ruled by a fascist military government invaded the islands at a time when their government was facing increasing unease at home - after a decade of cleansing 50,000 + of the politically active youth of the country via murdering them...

You would be hard pressed to come to any other conclusion than that the British (in this reveresed scenario - to demonstrate your warped thinking) were committing a gross abuse, a violation of international law, an act of aggression, a political side show - costing the lives of 1,000 people. Yet despite you history, despite common knowledge of how the Falklands have and are used by the Argentine government to deflect attention away from their mismanagement at home & hype up the flag waving patriots to drown out the cries of domestic unease you fail to see.

I've spend several years in your country, I know how the issue is used. I know how uninformed the average Argentine is on the issue and how biased anything published on the Falklands is.
21 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 11:31 am Report abuse
Perón government was not fascist, was popular
There were dictatorships here
In democracy we judged the dictators that were put in jail and second and third commands were condemned too, that was 30 years ago
Instead your country is always involved in wars to poor undefendless but rich in resources countries, you invade in the name of peace to make them more miserable but for you prolíficos as you make business and money stealing their resources. In the middle you have such a recession, all days Im hearing european economic problems, greece, italy, spain, uk, us, etc.
And our president is not talking about Malvinas all day....the elections of october are already won (with the recent results of primaries), no need to do it.
22 lsolde (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 12:01 pm Report abuse
@20 lost1,
You will find that sr Think presumes a lot.
@21 malen,
Prob doesn't talk about the Falklands(NOT malvinas, please get it right)ALL day, but does talk about them a lot.
You would like to steal OUR resources & are angry with us because you cannot.
So if the elections were not won, you are saying that there would be a need to talk about our land all day? What pathetic people.
23 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 12:25 pm Report abuse
Yes Isolda where? show me, the president Cristina
The only ones that talk of Malvinas (not F*cklands) is MercoPress, common people of politics dont do it here.
perdida you write very similar elaine does
and Kadhaffi is not a problem of whether people like it or not, so then you can go and through him away, its a problem of Libya that has to be resolved only by libyans or the african union not foreign countries........
i recue a phrase of the article: “It can never be true liberation when your oppressor defines what your freedom should be”
You name a puppet government, fiel to your interests, not to libyan people or choosen by libyan people, even libyan people hasnt choosen your intervention in their country, a clown NATO or UN votation of 7 of 9 present countries (not the total of 22) has choosen that, with not the aproval of US congress
so you can be there 20 months to rebuild (occupy and steal) and one year more till they can go to elections (occupy and steal) according to you.
24 stick up your junta (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 12:52 pm Report abuse
@ malen
Your great mates China dont think they are a Puppet outfit anymore :-))

China scrambles to catch up with new regime in Libya

BEIJING // China's belated recognition of Libya's new leaders and attempts by Chinese companies to sell weapons to Colonel Muammar Qaddafi's regime have left Beijing scrambling to protect its interests in the country.
It was announced late on Monday that China was officially recognising the National Transitional Council (NTC), more than three months after Beijing officials first met NTC representatives and over six weeks after some western governments transferred diplomatic ties.
25 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
economic interests
according to what I knew China had economic vinculations with Khadaffi dont know in what at this moment
Till you came to bother them, perhaps they cant do it better but they and russia were against
your international community is very but very much corrupt than one could expect
In the middle are the poor people of these countries that had nothing to do with this and that dont want blood or war that hasnt choosen this
Dont like to repeat posts since Ive already posted a lot on this matter
26 A.J.Rimmer (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 01:11 pm Report abuse
i am sure the Dutch masturbater is around, i would like to ask you, if you know what “the bridge too far” is, remember Dentist, we have saved your skin many a time, even though you hate us, you owe your life to us. get out of that one
27 stick up your junta (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 01:23 pm Report abuse
@ malen
Dont like to repeat posts since Ive already posted a lot on this matter

Or it could be you are talking bollox,and got caught out again
28 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
Nor other argument or idea in your head than call me bollox??
That school is getting bad bad in debating
I could post you also a long list of Ushuaia restaurants, much more in number and interesting than those of those remote and inhospite islands but dont have the time to search
29 lost1 (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 02:41 pm Report abuse
@ Marcos Alejandro
You found one Falkland Islander who the Argentine government have manipulated and used, after he fell in love with an Argentine citizen and had alienated himself prior to that with family and neighbours at home. Your government then claimed he had death threats over him, a disgusting example of the level that your government stoops to. Even the most stupid person could not fail to see this as anything other than what it is, a propaganda stunt, using someone way out of his depth and now vulnerable to being used as a tool in Argentina's ambition to take over the Falklands against the wishes of the people who live there.
30 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 03:52 pm Report abuse
I think that even the most stupid person cannot fail to see the superpowers nations playing the tyrant of the world in their fight for hegemony, and subjected others to bullying, aggression and explotation against the wishes of many many people that are dying everyday for nothing ....hegemony that includes wishes to get antarctica thats why F*lands are important to them
And Malvinas is a problem of sovereignity and territorial integrity to Arg, the people put there by force is a problem of the motherland that out them there, not of Argentina
31 stick up your junta (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 04:09 pm Report abuse
Till you came to bother them, perhaps they cant do it better but they and russia were against

Moscow has recognized Libya's National Transitional Council as the legitimate governing authority. Russia has become the 75th country to officially recognize the Council

Thats what I mean about you talking bollox :-))))
32 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
:-)) ay que dulce me dice bollox and smiles ...hypocrit
Watch china selling arms to kadhafi and having business with kadhafi for oil in the google search
and search also restaurants of ushuaia if you need to find new places to eat in the southamerica patagonia
33 Think (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 04:27 pm Report abuse
20 lost1

Let’s just re-read what you write at post No. 15 in this very same article…

1) You accuse Marcos of ”Liking Gadaffi” just because he highlights the immense British hypocrisy in respect of Libya. Names as Tony Blair and Abdelbaset al-Megrahi should suffice………….

2) You write a lot of nonsense about Argentinean believing that ”the people of the Falklands are really Argentine and they don't like being under the British flag” or about ”the common belief in 1940's Argentina that Britain was on the side of the evil ones during WW2”
…… Excuse me???....... What???

3) Referring to me you write: “Maybe you share the same belief as Think, that only those islanders willing to speak Spanish and adopt a Argentine identity and conform to Argentine norms and customs should be allowed to live there after you have invaded the islands again”
………… Excuse me again??? What??? When have I said anything of the kind???

I assess People in here by what they write ………….. and after reading yours, you certainly qualify as a prime Turnip.
34 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 05:56 pm Report abuse
Urinehopper update, down again?? 214.38 -5.00 (-2.27%)

Interesting article
Monday, 19 September 2011
“So if the Falklands oil potential is so promising, then why are the international major oil companies not involved? The answer is in brief that they have looked at the islands’ potential and given a pass.”
35 Think (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
(34) Marcos Alejandro

A well written article................................................

Shall we say, Rockflopper will close tomorrow down 3-4% because of it?
36 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
I am not sure 'Think” but investors are reading it and steaming mad about it :-)
37 briton (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has ratcheted up the rhetoric
and have previously said that they will deny facilities,
to any oil production taking place in the Islands.
And there is only one way to do this,
But she does not have the guts to do it,
But she may well use her charms to get other stupid mugs, to do it for her,..
38 lsolde (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
Good on you, lost1, you've certainly stirred up sr Think & pulled malen's tail.!!!!!!(look malen, l can do it too!).
You'll find that Think will disect everything you say, then pick out the bits he can answer & ignore what he can't.
While malen hates us that much she will go against anything that we say, just because we say it.
lf you said Gadaffi was a good man, l have no doubt that malen would say he is evil.
But anyway, welcome.
39 Beef (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
Marcos - so you are confident that no major oil companies are going to come knocking and will be involved in production? What do you want to wager on that?

You clearly know very little about Expo v production companies. The big boys let the little ones take on the risk and when the little ones survive and book an actual asset then we start to see the fibre of the fabric.

Beef said Gadaffi would fall (you suggested otherwise), Beef was right!

Beef says that an oil major will get into bed with RKH to take sealion into production (you suggest otherwise)?

What do you want to wager?
40 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 10:35 pm Report abuse
Beef, I did not say that your good friend Gadaffi will fall or not, I only said that you and your Gov. thought it will take a few days/weeks not several months. Of course your Prime Minister had to cry for help to the Americans when things were going badly in order to be rescued.
About the oil, I am saying that no major oil company is interested so far, they may have good reasons, not enough oil or oil exploration in a disputed area is not good for bussiness, or both.
41 malen (#) Sep 19th, 2011 - 10:55 pm Report abuse
I dont hate you, would be too much for you
I hate wars of all the world
And second and are the typical girl using seducting tactics to get the enemy under your command, while you say the isles are mine, the isles are mine. So typical.
Doesnt bother me your comments, generally I pass them.
42 Redhoyt (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 01:29 am Report abuse
Think/MoreCrap - the questions is ... are you asking the right questions?
43 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 03:39 am Report abuse

“Who asked for the Foreign Office to provide some reassurance?
The obvious answer would be Rockhopper who desperately need the reinforcement in order to negotiate with the money men. But I’m not so sure. The Foreign Office have a history of viewing the Falklands as a nuisance; an irritation to better relations with South America and Brazil in particular. It is very well-known that the present British Government wish to dramatically improve their relationship with South America’s big performer. Even in the face of Brazil’s support for Argentina”
44 Redhoyt (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 05:16 am Report abuse
Still dealing with the 'obvious' MoreCrap?

How sad :-)
45 Beef (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 05:42 am Report abuse
Marcos - I said Gadaffi will fall as a result of our actions, and I was right, I didn't give a timeline and ultimately I was right.

Now, stick your neck out and make an actual prediction (I know it is hard for you to do this as it will potentially lead to embarrassment). Will a major vet involved or not? I say one will. What do you say?

The reason a major hasn't appeared yet is simple, they don't own the rights to a licence and potential deals are all dealt with in the background until a time to tell the market, usually after an MoU has been signed.

Now come on Marcos, wil a major oil co get involved or not?

FPSO here we go!!!!
46 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
Beef, I you want to gamble go to Macau or Vegas, this is not a game is armed robbery.
Keep this in mind, since the British started to Bully Argentina it backfired in their faces big time so please bring the big oil companies more nuclear subs and HMS's.

Steve Marshall & News reports 20 September

“Rockhopper shareholders reportedly are set to meet senior UK Foreign Office officials to discuss the Falklands.
A Foreign Office spokeswoman told Reuters that officials ”will discuss any issue that Rockhopper raises”, but did not disclose when the meetings would take place.
Drilling by Rockhopper off the Falklands has further inflamed tensions in the territorial stand-off, with Brazil backing Argentina in banning all Falklands-flagged shipping from its ports.
Most Latin American countries also support Argentina’s claim to the islands, which triggered the 1982 Falklands War that was won by the British.
The flag ban is likely to increase the costs of Falklands shipping and has also raised concern that it could be extended to rigs or offshore vessels working in the region”
47 Be serious (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 05:34 pm Report abuse
46 Do your worst. But don't be surprised if a little retaliation starts up and kicks you up the arse. Two can play at that game.
48 zethe (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
“since the British started to Bully Argentina it backfired in their faces big time”

49 briton (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 08:24 pm Report abuse
Most Latin American countries also support Argentina’s claim to the islands, which triggered the 1982 Falklands War that was won by the British.
wrong again old boy wrong again .
50 Beef (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
Marcos - don't know how anything backfired? Making things up again!

Simple question Marcos. Will a major get involved or not?

You couldn't decide between Legal or Military action. Can you ever make your mind up thick boy?
51 briton (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
Argentine aggression started the 1982 war,
How many times can you fit the Falklands into Argentina,
Quite a few I would imagine,
So why don’t you leave them alone,
52 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
50 Beef My answer is @46, can you read?
Urinehopper down again? Yes.
53 Beef (#) Sep 20th, 2011 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
You did not answer my question Marcos, as an Argie you tend to avoid the difficult questions. They are just too hard for your fragile little brain?

I say that a major will get involved, do you agree or disagree. Fairly simple one for you. Will a major oil co get involved? Yes or No?

Beef has already decided in his answer.

RKH SP was down a touch today, hence I bought a feww hundred more shares today and will do everytime the process drops. Big drop, big purchase. Smll drop, small purchase.

Still Marcos. Will a major get involved, Yes or No? I suppose you do not have the balls to make a decision. Weak as well as thick?
54 lsolde (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 09:25 am Report abuse
@41 malen,
Malen, the lsles are not mine but they are ours & certainly not yours.
l never said that you hate just me, but l do believe from your stupid comments that you hate the British people, mainly because you cannot take from us that which is rightfully ours. The land that you think is yours, & it is not. l presume that you were taught this at school & have never bothered to research the truth.
l don't use any tactics to control the enemy, l just say it like l see it.
Your slip is showing my dear & it's green.
btw-l hate wars also, but sometimes they are necessary. l will fight to defend my country from would be invaders, wouldn't you?
But l don't ignore your comments, l wecome everyone's comments.
55 malen (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 12:27 pm Report abuse
you own the F**cklands...yes here in the photo is your authentic castle
is in Scotland, near Ireland where it is easier to buy all the irish butter you like at good price
look at the beautiful landscape and it seems it has a lot of room available
and about the tactics of seduction it was a joke
here in Southamerica today begins spring for us, so happy spring for Southamericans
and remember hands off Libya for real freedom in Africa
56 Monty69 (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
55 malen
We know it's spring; we're in South America too, remember?
And what the hell are you blithering on about Scotland for?
Do you have to work hard at being this idiotic or does it come naturally?
57 Argie (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 01:48 pm Report abuse
What are we waiting to mine certain parts of our continental waters?
58 malen (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
You are not part of south america, of Mercosur, of Unasur, of OAS
you are a BOT of South atlantic, part of EU
Feliz día de la primavera para el sudatlántico!!
59 Be serious (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 03:43 pm Report abuse
Could it be because mines drift and might damage British owned assets in British South Atlantic territorial Waters?
Perhaps provoking a direct military response would not be in Argentina's best interests?
You are right The Falklands are not part of South America. Get used to it and die happy as an Afro Spanish South American immigrant
60 Monty69 (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
58 malen
Do you think I don't know that?
We are, however, geographically part of South America, or are you arguing with that as well?
And your point is what, exactly?

Still waiting to hear why you're on about Scotland, and Irish butter. You can buy Irish butter in Chile, and I bet you can in Argentina too. I know you're in denial about globalisation but it does have its benefits.
61 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
Beef, Urinehopper is down again???
210.12 -3.50 (-1.64%) Yes,yeah,yea,si.
62 Beef (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
Your point is?

Still no decsion?
63 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 05:01 pm Report abuse
Beef, Again, if you want to gamble go to Macau or Vegas, this is not a game is armed robbery.
I don't know nor I could care less if a major oil company joins this illegal oil exploitation, I hope they do though.
64 Beef (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
They won't join the exploration Marcos, they will farm-in for production. If the oil exploration was illegal then why hasn't it gone to a court of law?
65 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
What about the UN Beef....just a few hours ago
66 briton (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
she would gain more by suspending all argentine flights out of argentina,
think of the money she will save, and its good on the enviroment lol.
67 Beef (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
What about the UN Marcos? Means nothing for the oil exploration/production as the oil charter flies in via the US direct to Mount Pleasant.

There is nothing you can do and preventing any flight from Chile will prevent the families of your fallen visiting their son's graves and probably piss LAN and Chile off. Shoot yourself in the foot if you want the drilling will continue.

If it is illegal and we are stealing your resources then take us to court. But as you have no guts so we will just carry on.

How does it feel to be embarrassed by your medicated president?
68 malen (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 10:08 pm Report abuse
Monty 60 Yes I agree with you the isles are geographically part of Southamerica, because the isles have territorial integrity with Argentina.
Be stupid The islands are going to be part of South america when we get them back by pacific and diplomatic ways. Meanwhile they are nothing in the middle of the ocean. Take care it is said on friday the satellite is going to fall there.
And Monty again, my grandfather was spaniard and came to America to “make America”, not to be spaniard in America. That meaned for him he had to learn the language, the customs of Argentina, etc. He didnt live thinking he was on Spain and never wanted to go back either. He educated his sons as argentinians, not looking to Spain. None of my family my grandfather and me thought or will think on buying spanish
products to eat here. They ate our food, thats excellent from my point of view and sometimes prepared a dish usual on Spain. But they and we dont have Spain on our head. And its so natural for me, that really sorry for what I say, but I cant understand you and sounds me silly that of the irish butter.
69 briton (#) Sep 21st, 2011 - 11:06 pm Report abuse

why cant the plane go arround and get to the falklands from the south.
70 Filippo (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 12:33 am Report abuse
71 Beef (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 05:42 am Report abuse
Malen - there is no diplomatic option. They only two options for Argentina are:

a) Legal
b) Military

You are unwilling to have your arguments subject to legal scrutiny and are incapable of any military action. The Union Flag flies proudly over the Falkland Islands and the drilling continues.

Probably about time Argentina started to reach out and work with the FIG because all you are doing in ratcheting up the animosity they have to you. But I suppose this is worth it considering CFK is only hair the islands to further bolster her internal popularity. She clearly has no serious or joined up policy on FI soverignty.
72 lsolde (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 10:12 am Report abuse
Please see #71. Court or War, you decide.
You will get our homes no other way.
73 stick up your junta (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 01:00 pm Report abuse
@68 malen
That meaned for him he had to learn the language,

He must of been one thick bastard if he had to learn Spanish,coming from Spain and all
74 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 02:22 pm Report abuse
67 Beef Urinehopper down again and below 200??
OMG, 195.62 -13.25 (-6.32%) so far.
75 malen (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 02:25 pm Report abuse
that meant not meaned
my grandfather was more intelligent than you junta basura
he spoke spanish but mostly more a spanish dialect when he came
and go to buy your irish butter to chile in boat surrounding antartida
72 the UN or diplomacy
76 stick up your junta (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
he spoke spanish but mostly more a spanish dialect when he came

He knew nothing then
77 Monty69 (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
68 malen
Well you've hit the nail on the head again.
Your grandfather made his own choices and good for him.

Falkland Islanders have made their own choices, and being Argentinean isn't it. Apart from all those native born Falkland Islanders, who haven't made any choice at all. They just are what they are.

All your sanctimonious crap about not buying 'Spanish' is truly unbelievable. We bought huge quantities of goods from South America until very recently, and were very pleased to do so. Your government stopped it and forced us to buy from Europe.
It was you that started the whole 'Irish Butter' thing. I was very happy with Chilean butter.
Only you could be so unbelievably dense as to see your government do something disgraceful to us and then mock us for it. You really are a shockingly unpleasant piece of work.
It's your fault and your responsibility. It is a pity, but it's in your hands.
78 SamSalzman (#) Sep 22nd, 2011 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
#8 Marcos Alejandro “Libya: Tony Blair and Col Gaddafi's secret meetings

“Nice piccy of two friends.
One, a deceitful, lying,murderous megalomaniac.....the other Gaddafi!””

For once I agree with you Marcos. Blair was a lying manipulative traitor who sold his country out to everyone he could find, courted dictators and played around with the UK's constitutional law to suit the ends of his own party.
79 Be serious (#) Sep 23rd, 2011 - 11:37 am Report abuse
There are rumours that Rockhopper is set to be taken over.
80 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 23rd, 2011 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
“There are rumours that Rockhopper is set to be taken over”
Please hurry up, they are going down most of the time. Vey soon I will sell my cow to buy that junk.
81 malen (#) Sep 23rd, 2011 - 04:27 pm Report abuse
my grandfather came from a country that was having a long dictatorship and war, couldnt choose much and its his instransferible experience.
My mother is criolla and from that branch I have native ascendance.
Frank the yank now has to buyt the irish butter through your british links..nothing changes after all ...british products are so much better
for him..... nice to see that his motherland is giving him such opportunities
82 briton (#) Sep 23rd, 2011 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
no disrespect.
but you cant keep on blaming everything on a past dictatorship
and using that as an exuse, to either do things,
or excape responsability.
83 Monty69 (#) Sep 23rd, 2011 - 10:06 pm Report abuse
81 malen
Yes (bangs head on table). You are completely right. You Argentines arrived in argentina at different times, sometimes by choice, sometimes not.
So did Falkland Islanders.
The difference is that no-one's trying to terrorise you into being something different.
84 malen (#) Sep 23rd, 2011 - 11:52 pm Report abuse
i take your words: FI arrived at different times, sometimes by choice, SOMETIMES NOT. OK
Then the difference is we got independance in 1810 from the spanish that invade and colonized us, remember. Latter came inmigrants, from different countries and specially Italy.
Why didnt you got independance through 178 years??
85 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 24th, 2011 - 12:18 am Report abuse
83 Monty69 There is a big difference, none of those inmigrants claimed any piece of Argentinean land for their country of origin, including British. We are all Argentineans.
86 briton (#) Sep 24th, 2011 - 10:42 am Report abuse
We got independence in 1810 from the Spanish that invade and colonized us, remember. Latter came immigrants, from different countries and specially Italy.
please explain, im not into this, are you saying that Spain invaded Argentina, and attracted Argentineans and colonized you,
Argentina was in independent country and the Spanish did this to you,, that’s bad that is, lucky for you, Argentinean troops and the Argentina navy beat the Spanish then,, buy hey, all that bad luck, then argentine was swamped with all these immigrants from Europe and Italy,, poor you,??
Why has not the Falklands got independence,
Well im not an expert on this, but may I suggest, that one reason is because they wish to remain British,
knowing full well, that if they did get this, independence, that nasty great bully called Argentina, would invade them,,, does this help ,,
87 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 24th, 2011 - 04:20 pm Report abuse
Briton, Many British moved to mainland Argentina and they wish to remain British as well, however they did not claim parts of Argentina for Britain.
88 briton (#) Sep 24th, 2011 - 05:34 pm Report abuse
Many immigrants live in great Britain,
They don’t claim it for their country either,
The fact is Marcos Alejandro ,,,,,,,
They went their of their own free will to Argentina and choose to live there,
And will probably die their,
Any children they have WILL be Argentin,
Full stop am I right or not,
The Falklands island people went there because they freely wanted to,
Any children will be Falkland islander ,Am I right or wrong////////
People who live and born in Argentina freely, wish to be ruled by Argentina, and Great Britain excepts this,
Am I right or wrong
The Falkland islanders freely choose to be rules by the British, BUTARGENTINA REFUSES THAT RIGHT
Am I right or wrong,
89 Monty69 (#) Sep 25th, 2011 - 06:42 am Report abuse
84 malen
We aren't independent because the time isn't right yet. Perhaps it never will be. But it has to be our decision, not yours or anyone else's.
My personal view is that the time may be approaching for a form of independence with free association with another country. I doubt everyone would agree. My own household don't even all agree!
90 lsolde (#) Sep 25th, 2011 - 09:25 pm Report abuse
Yes malen, it will be our decision about independence, not yours.
91 malen (#) Sep 26th, 2011 - 12:37 am Report abuse
Independence with free association is staying in the same place, nothing changes.
You will never be 100 % independent.
UK wont let you.
They are doing everything so they can take the benefits, although you may think you are getting them.
92 lsolde (#) Sep 26th, 2011 - 05:01 am Report abuse
lf that is true, malen, then that is our problem & not yours.
But thank you for your concern.

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