Argentina planning a Malvinas war museum for the 30th anniversary
Under the banner of “Malvinas Year, memory justice and truth” the administration of President Cristina Fernandez is working for a major rally and demonstration of ‘rank and file” Malvinas veterans in Buenos Aires next 2 April, 30th anniversary of the Falklands/Malvinas invasion.
However the occasion will not be organized as an exaltation of the military landing in 1982 and will have the least military symbols presence possible, and not a single mention of the former General Galtieri or any other of the officers.
On the contrary it will be geared to underline the experiences of the Malvinas veterans and their sufferings visualized in the framework of the Kirchner administrations human rights policy, according to Buenos Aires press reports.
Apparently the idea is to mount a war museum most probably located next to the existing one dedicated to human rights at the Navy’s Mechanic School where a notorious torture and disappearance centre of the last Argentine Military Junta (1976/1983) was operational.
If possible the museum would be inaugurated by President Cristina Fernandez precisely on April 2.
The museum will not emphasize on the military side or aspects of the war but rather on the personal experiences from soldiers (mostly conscripts) such as some groups of veterans that are involved in a major judicial demand and court case because of alleged abuse and torture committed by Argentine officers against rank and file, the famous strapping to the ground, as was common among South American indigenous.
Another issue groups of Malvinas veterans are demanding from the Argentine government is that a formal request be presented to the UK for the DNA identification of a significant number of the Argentine soldiers buried at the Darwin Argentine Memorial who remain “only known to God”.
The Cristina Fernandez administration is also considering extending an additional benefit to the Malvinas war veterans but only limited to those who effectively were involved in the battle theatre in the Falklands and not the thousands called into ranks but whom never left Patagonia.
According to those same reports during the new four years of CFK, the Argentine president will continue tightening with the hard line of maritime blockade to hamper the fisheries and oil industries.
Furthermore it is almost certain that Argentina will finally have an ambassador in London. Since Federico Mirré left in 2008, the post has been vacant.
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A typical Argentine museum then - no facts !
Nowadays yes, they are starting to be typical, thanks god, as typical as the UK living on colonies and other land's workers and resources.
And what do you mean with “No Galtieri?” What story do you think we are told in here? Do you think Galtieri is not appearing in this stories argentinians tell?
You can build a whole irracional story also with facts. The whole world knows what Colonialism is and under what “facts” and philosophies it legalizes its atrocities.
Official ! :-)
what do we have here? yes, the British hen complicated again. life is easy Redhoyt, don't lose yourself in these stories ;)
To be honest, I see this little bedtime story of self determination as a Self-determination to practice “neo-colonialism”. I think I should go to the buckingham palace, have a child and tell him to be self-determined to live in a tiny little cattle on the palace garden, enjoying in Argentina the profit of selling the royal family intimate photos, of course I will give my son a little percent of this ;) so he can be self-determined to stay loyal.
Job done :-)
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nick-clegg/8949920/Nick-Clegg-attacks-Camerons-EU-treaty-veto-as-bad-for-jobs-and-families.html
During the Inca Empire all economic transactions were by exchange or reciprocity and in order to facilitate trade the Spanish introduced the currency in Peru making its first appearance between 1568 and 1570. The Crown imposed a trade monopoly in its colonies, meaning that trade was only allowed between Spain and a viceroyalty, trade was not permitted among viceroyalties.”
”In 1828, the United Provinces government granted Vernet all of East Falkland including all its resources, and exempted him from taxation if a colony could be established within three years. He took settlers, including British Captain Matthew Brisbane (who had sailed to the islands earlier with Weddell), and before leaving once again sought permission from the British Consulate in Buenos Aires. The British asked for a report for the British government on the islands, and Vernet asked for British protection should they return.“
”Vernet later attempted to return to the Islands but was refused permission to return. The British Crown reneged on promises and refused to recognise rights granted by Captain Onslow at the time of the reoccupation. Eventually, after traveling to London, Vernet received paltry compensation for horses shipped to Port Louis many years before.[9] G.T. Whittington obtained a concession of 6,400 acres (26 km2) from Vernet that he later exploited with the formation of the Falkland Islands Commercial Fishery and Agricultural Association
”Welcome
The Falkland Islands Company owes its origins to a contract signe
Maybe this will be the only war museum in the world to employ Basil Fawlty imitators running around whispering “Don't mention the war”!
BUT Vernet DID get permission from the British - thankyou for mentioning it!
As for the issue between Vernet and Lowcay, I am unable to find a reliable source. I am working on it :-)
1. When an official Government project requires the word “Truth” in the title it is a massive propaganda push, where a new truth has been invented. The word truth is included to try and convince the masses that the new “truth” is the truth, when in fact it is a lie.
2. So a monument regarding human rights, which (in essence) celebrates the denial of someone else's human rights is adjacent to another human rights monument. This appears to be distrubingly hypocritical, which is quite typical of Argentina.
But don't mention the war!
You couldn't make this up - still it will go with the medal for losing the war.
I am endlessly fascinated with the way the Argentine government manipulates the truth and how willing CFK's devotees are to be manipulated.
I am sure you know that not all Argentines are like the rabid posters on here.
“Britain faces being reduced to the status of a “pygmy” nation after David Cameron’s decision to veto a new EU treaty, Nick Clegg has warned”
The TRUTH is the malvinas NEVER existed do not exist now and will not exist inthe future!!!!
But I will wish the argentines a lot of Luck in getting to the truth, just open your eyes.
Long Live the Falklands.
Why are you spamming that all over the threads? It is irrelevent as Nick Clegg is pretty irrelevent. Nick Clegg is a Europhile representing a Europhile party with no chance of being elected as a majority government. Interestingly, 49% of LibDems - to recap, Lib Dems are PRO Europe - believe Cameron was right not to sign the treaty. Overwhelmingly, the voting public support Cameron. (Some are ridiculously anti-Europe which I think is misguided).
When we refused to join the Euro, for all the reasons evident now, the same naysayers said that the UK would be marginalised and lose trading power. Now we know that didn't happen. It was a tough call but ultimately bailing out the Euro is in our interest but NOT our responsibility. And it certainly is not in our interest to throw our own markets on the bonfire that is the Eurozone.
Captured aircraftAfter the Argentine surrender eleven Pucarás (four of them in flying condition) were captured by British forces. Six were taken back to the United Kingdom, as follows:
A-515 (ZD485) – Royal Air Force Museum Cosford.[10]
A-517 – Privately owned. Possibly shipped to the Channel Islands.[11]
A-522 (8768M) – North East Aircraft Museum (on loan from the Fleet Air Arm Museum, Yeovilton).[12]
A-528 (8769M) – Norfolk and Suffolk Aviation Museum (on loan from Museum of Army Flying, Middle Wallop).[13]
A-533 (ZD486) – Boscombe Down Aviation Collection (Cockpit Section only).[14]
A-549 (ZD487) – Imperial War Museum Duxford.[15]
Here is a few of them.
www.falklandswar.org.uk/images/roy_burley_gallery/index.htm
Notice the Flag over Government House and what it actually what it is. In addition, notice all that abandoned ammunition and stripped aircraft when you lot held your hands up and surrendered.
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205194995
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205124098
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205189226
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205189460
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205190425
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205190481
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205190480
www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205190453
Just thought I would remind you Argys what is in store for you if you ever try anything like you did in 1982. Please feel free to copy them and hang them in your small museum. Have a nice day.
21 Britishbulldog
I was against the war but since you insist, hang this one in in your small museum collection. :-)
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:CaboBatista.jpg
#2 Ok then, practise what you preach and get back to Spain.
30m eligible to vote. Roughly 10m didn't vote. Roughly 10 million voted for other candidates. Roughly 10m voted for CFK. She was elected but not by 54% of eligible Argentine voters.
You´re a colonizing population in a colonized territory. As british people, you have the right of self-determination, only that you do have it on british territoy, not on argentinian.
So you can leave and enjoy your self determination rights on british territory, or you can stay and get over the fact that the only people that has the right of self determination on argentinian territory is the argentinian people.
Big hug.
You say:
”Not spinning just giving the true perspective of the 54%.
30m eligible to vote. Roughly 10 m didn't vote. Roughly 10 million voted for other candidates. Roughly 10m voted for CFK. She was elected but not by 54% of eligible Argentine voters.”
I say:
Just giving the true perspective of the 54%.
28.8m eligible to vote. Roughly 6.4m didn't vote. Roughly 10 million voted for other candidates (3.6m voted for Cristina’s Socialist allies and 3m voted oter two Peronist candidates:-). Roughly 12m voted for CFK. She was elected but not by 54% of eligible Argentine voters………..
She and her political model were elected by far more than 54% of the eligible Argentine voters!
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecciones_presidenciales_de_Argentina_de_2011#Resultados
So ElaineB…………….., as anybody can infer from your simple and straightforward statement above, there is some difficulty in justifiably assigning to it the forth of the epithets you applied to that statement, inasmuch as the precise connection between the information you correlate in said statement and the facts, insofar they can be determined and demonstrated as such, cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they, reasonably, can be expected to bear.
In other words; you are spinning (lying)…………….. again.
Be careful about calling people liars.
I know this is a difficult concept to get across to a woman but…………........ Ermm……..................... You didn’t exactly tell the truth.
No, I am afraid that you are wrong here. Starting a fight anywhere against unknown odds (there could be an elephant in the room) is completely beyond these Argies. :o)
But yes, I do know many Argentinos, some of whom I call friends.
The malvinas have never existed and will NEVER exist FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The country called argentina cannot force the UK to negotiate FACT!!!!!!
The peso is failing and argentinas economy has nose dived FACT!!!!!!!
The argentine politians are corrupt and inept also a FACT!!!!!!!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Malvinas is the same as Falklands you genius! FACT!!!
Argentina cannot force the UK do anything. FACT! But international preasure and the economy may the UK change its mind. FACT!!!
Argentina economy doesnt change anything on the Malvinas question... it´s not Argentina the one that has something to loose...
Politicions are corrupt. FACT!!! So what?
Long live Malvinas!
The argentine economy is important if you are not paying your debts then you cannot get loans to develop those mystical islands FACT!!!!!!!
You are right argentina has already lost FACT!!!!
Politians are corrupt that is why they keep bringing up the malvinas fairy tale FACT!!!!!!!!
The malvinas do not exist only the Falklands inhabited by Falklanders exist FACT!!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
I know this is going to be hard for you to understand but....
You are not 'the world' and you do not speak for 'the world'. The UN does, and the UN doesn't discriminate against us because of where our ancestors came from.
It doesn't matter whether we are called 'Malvinas' or Falkland Islands. That has no bearing on our rights.
You do have something to loose- credibilityand self- esteem. Fighting a battle you can't win is losing you both.
A colonising population on a colonised territory? Don't go there. That's how you got your country.
We´ll see if we have no chance.... only time can tell...
Do you live in a mystical island? Hello Petter Pan!
Argentina lost, but never will give up... you´ll have to live in a Continente where you´ll never be welcome! FACT
133 + China, Lantiamerica, African, Asian countries.. all corrupt believing argentinian feiry tales and incapable of recognizing british reality! What a world!
Malvinas exist, ask Latinamerica, Obama and Hilary, South Koreans... etc...
Long live Malvinas
Perhaps a few statues may help her in her deluded desire .
This woman obsession must sure be bordering on [Stalking] by now .
Wow 133 countrys support argentina so how come the Falklands are still a British overseas territory ?? Because all those countrys have too much to lose in trade deals with the UK!!!!
And the malvinas what is that!!!! just a fairy story to tell to argentine school children!
Long Live the Falklands.
Marocs - All I know about absolute monarchy is from my time in Saudi and Brunei. Why is it that 10 of the top twenty (and five of the top six) full democracies in the world are Constitutional Monarchies? Why is it that Argentina is classified as a flawed democracy and sits at position 51? The only fairy tale I hear on here is that Argentina is going to get hold of the Falkland Islands, actually that is more like a comedy than a fairy tale.
Carry on sweeping the floor Marocs. The next rig is on the way - you can follow its unhindered journey past your “supporters” (I use that term loosely) right here.
www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=308243000¢erx=-31.2046¢ery=36.78345&zoom=10&type_color=8
Beautiful isn't she? you can do nothing about it.
Kathy Price, beautiful isn't she? you can do nothing about it.
www.lyon.edu/assets/images/PersonnelDirectory/Kathy%20Price.jpg
Long Live the Falklands.
AHAHAHHAHAHa papamosca!!
The reality is this:uk is finished! and we are facing the END of a cycle......just get out while you still can...
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“Con paciencia y con aguante, la hormiga se cojio al elefante”
We have a saying to.
Don’t piss down my back=and tell me its raining.
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What lies are you worrying about? After all, this is just a museum. Not a common museum but I would like to see the memories of my uncle being shown. After all, if from that experiences we don't learn that war is not the way, then we won't be the peaceful people we are know.
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cdb66522-2519-11e1-8bf9-00144feabdc0.html
The first world shows once again why is the first world. I don't even dare think what the Barrick Gold Corp. is doing in Argentina.
Gentlemen, I gave you rough figures. That means approximate and eventually the actual independent figures will be available. 10m or 12m is not 54% of the people eligible to vote in Argentina. That's all.
Ironically, you have chosen your Mercopress username “Think”, in an attempt to publicly prove that you are capable of independent thought, but you are incapable of it, no matter how much you “think” differently, you are just another narrow minded and shallow Argentine that just replicate their Government's propaganda.
The UK has only just started and is striding forward while other countries watch!!! I hope you enjoyed your cycle ride malvin!!! and I will be visiting argentina in the new year.
Long Live the falklands.
When a woman is wrong at times, why is it so hard for them to admit it?
I find this very annoying in a woman. To me its like they are not adult enough to admit it.
54% is 54%
You give the impression that you do not like women at all. That is your issue to deal with.
Your posts make me laugh out loud. Thanks for that. : )
You say:
Gentlemen, I gave you rough figures. That means approximate ………
I say:
No you did not……………..
You manipulated every figure to fit your point.
You added “approximately” 5% to the ”eligible to vote”.
Then you added “approximately” 35% to the ”no voters”.
Then you subtracted “approximately” 20% from Cristina’s voters.
Then you omitted to mention that “approximately” 70% of the 10 million that didn’t vote for Cristina voted for a Peronist or a Socialist candidate with very similar policies to her own.
I interpret all those “superfluous approximated figures and gross omissions in favor of your personal opinion” as an obvious lie…….
As obvious as your previous story about those unnamed unavailable philosophy books needed by some Argentinean students that you so generously smuggle into our Country…………….
Part of my professional qualifications allowed me to teach statistics at graduate level. I have considered the comments made by you two and can see why Argentina is world renowned for obfuscation, so consider the following:-
Looking at the govt produced figures the results are this:
Total number voters eligable to vote = 27,890,158
Total number voting for CFK = 10,762,217
% of voters who ACTUALLY VOTED FOR CFK = 38.6%
Voters who voted for someone else who MAY support her cause DO NOT COUNT.
CFK got 38.6% AND THAT'S IT FOLKS!
The problem is that to really understand, you have to stop reading the news and get to know the daily situation, the country situation.
Is not a surprise that she got 54% when you had a joke candidate like Alfonsin(who only made internal division in the party worst, and set a record for the worst political propaganda ever), Binner who IMO was more of the same Cristina was doing but lacks charisma. Rodriguez Saa is a really good statesman, but he has too many enemies inside the peronists. Duhalde has the same population core as Crisitina, and was not in a situation to challenge her. Altamira was quite a surprise, and owes too much to facebook and “un milagro para altamira”. Carrio is bipolar and only threatens and criticates.
And the situation is not so bad. We can eat well, many can buy new cars and so on. The poor class hasn't done so good since the 70s, and the middle class is better than in 2002 and also than in 2007. Obviously there is inflation, but as long as the salaries keep doing the race against it, their support won't erode.
As an example, me and most of my families are whole life radicals, my great-grandfather even being diputado in the 40s. This year for example my brother told me he was going to vote Cristina because he knew voting Alfonsin was in vain and he was too pelotudo. I was going to vote him, but I changed to Rodriguez Saa.
To sum up, Cristina couldn't loose. It's sad but that how things went and I knew since Nestor died. I can only hope that her movement dies with this term of her presidency.
Think, are you telling me I should have smuggled those books in? Damn! To think I could have been arrested for possession of items likely to improve the mind. I did not know that was a crime in Argentina.
“You only like women that agree with you”
Spinning again? How old are you, fifteen?
Even a stuck up young girl from a pigmy nation like you should be able to admit when you are wrong.
Guess you always choose the losing side :-)
It's not. Even more. It's quite easy to get books criticizing Cristina and Nestor, and many of those are best-sellers.
If there is one area that is almost not affected by their control of information it is publishing.
You say:
”…..the situation is not so bad. We can eat well; many can buy new cars and so on. The poor class hasn't done so well since the 70s, and the middle class is better than in 2002 and also than in 2007.”
But then you say:
”……I can only hope that her movement dies with this term of her presidency.”
I say:
By your previous comments, I know that you are a reasonable Fuegino, that’s why I’m “engaging”……..
I don’t know how old you are but I’m old enough to remember that, in the past, when Europe or the USA did caught a cold, Argentina caught a Deadly Double Pneumonia.
Look at the situation today….. Do you “Think” it is a casuality …..? Do you “Think” it is luck…..?
Please mate, read some history about Argentina in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, and 00’s and compare it with today’s reality.
Maybe then you will stop hoping that “this movement” dies so quickly……
Respetuosamente
El Think
Chubut, Argentina
(57) ElaineB
When introducing goods in Argentina, especially for other people and not for personal use, you are supposed to pay VAT and Customs Duties.
Similar rules apply in the EU……..:
In most European countries you are supposed to pay VAT for everything you import from outside the EU with a value over 22 €.
And Customs Duties for everything you import from outside the EU with a value over 150 €
So the answer is YES……., if you didn’t pay the proper duties for those books when introducing them in Argentina, you did smuggled them.
But of course you can always play the part of the stupid blonde saying that you didn’t know the law and therefore the law doesn’t apply to you.
Or even better you could play the part of the haughty Brit and say that you didn’t know the law and that, anyhow, it doesn’t matter because Brits are above the law……………
On one side you are right, we have had quite some economic growth. However, I can assure you that in 1999 I was better than now(I'm middleclass). Besides, education is going nowhere. Corruption is at the order of the day. I really think that they did some good things in our country. But there are some attitudes that I dislike, and that's why I hope their mafia eventually dies. Not that I'am totally against what they do, I'm against the people in charge and their attitudes. I mean, lying about inflation really makes me mad. Seeing 6 7 8 is disgusting. They are too dependant on their image and what people think of them. They keep on their policies of giving electrodomestics, tvs and food to the poors instead of educating them.
Being down here, some of their policies hit me more than others. For example, why do I have to pay as much as $2000 for an airplane ticket to Buenos Aires in Aerolineas? I have to travel a lot for business. Why does the banks tells me that one of the main reasons their rate interests for my money is the INDEC? Why do I pay so high for meat? Why we almost only produce soybeans which destroy the land? Why when I visit Calafate it grew so large in just ten years?
But it's just me. I know that with some of this things changed I may make my work really profit me.
Why did you buy Urinehopper shares?
Why Why Why
#18
en.mercopress.com/2011/12/13/rockhopper-announces-fantastic-result-with-third-oil-discovery-in-falklands#comments
Marcos.
I'm a businessman. And I have the belief that a good business is just such, a good business. And I am glad that this way I do as much as I can to take money away from them and benefit not just myself, but my country I paid taxes when I bought them, the merchants here that will benefit from a few more earnings. Overall It's not much. But that money will come to Argentina.
The museum is only more “propaganda” from this government, let's see if they show a white flag at the front door.
Let's accept facts, Falklands, and islanders, have all the right to self determination, no country in the world can avoid it, either Argentina.
Perhaps in the future Argentina and Falklands will agree about mutual benefits and work together as two sovereign nations, argentines and islanders will benefit from it.
Many people who voted Cristina did so because there wasn't an oposition candidate worth voting.
And for the Islands, ask Alexander Betts. He knows how stuff really is.
What were you saying? :-))))
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The argentines attempts to join the modern world, today, as she up graded the first to rowing boats with out board motors, the other six will follow later,
Keep this up, and Argentina can finally leave wind sails behind for ever,
Titter Titter [©]
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I take it you are referring to my post at 55, only you do not denote it.
ElaineB did not infer any lying as far as I can recall and I would never expect her to do so.
I note that you have not questioned my deliberations, or the fact that CFK had 38.6% of the eligible votes. It really is a no brainer to work this out for yourself if you wanted to. But I suspect that you had already done this and realised that you did not have a leg to stand on, hence the attempt with Cameron and Clegg.
I trained for a number of years to attain my international recognised professional qualifications and I care not one jot for your 'opinions' when it come to statistics or anything else of a professional electrical / electronic or mechanical nature.
Are we clear now? 38.6%!
congratulation that should be said as “” titter “” not “” chuckle “”.
BECOUSE
one of the figurative saying of “” chuckle“” is “” chick calling/voice “”.
Getting 38.6% of the votes is different from having support from 38.6% of the electorate. Many people who didn't vote support her. Many people who voted another candidate(mainly peronists) support her. Besides the amount of votes she got pretty much matches many surveys.
Also, as long as I learnt, on elections you count votes to candidates, white votes and null votes. Not the votes of the people who didn't vote.
So if you have 100 people electing. Of those 40 vote A, 20 vote B, 20 vote C and the last 20 didn't vote, you don't show that 20 percent of non-voters in the results. You show the results over the 80 who did vote and mention participation was of 80%.
yes the lady on the telephine, she has a calling voice .
well noticed .
I understand that Argentina has a law that states everyone entitled to vote (with minor exceptions) MUST VOTE.
Votes can only be counted for a candidate for the ACTUAL votes cast for that candidate. I made the point above, but will repeat it here: counting votes for people who say they will support you / may support you / do NOT support you DO NOT COUNT - HOW CAN THEY FOR GOD'S SAKE!
People who are eligible and do not vote ARE MAKING A DECISION, and the decision is that they will NOT VOTE for anyone. In effect, this is a vote AGAINST everyone. Can you not see this.
ElaineB made the obvious statement that CFK DID NOT GET 54% OF THE ELIGIBLE VOTE. And the Argie govt paid protesters berated her for it. SHE WAS CORRECT!
CFK got 38.6% of the eligible vote: STATISTICAL FACT.
It is this persistent twisting of mathematical facts by Argentia in a whole raft of statistics that shows the world what they are. You only have to look at the inflation rate on the ground against what the govt. SAYS it is to see that.
www.muxlim.com/videos/AlJazeeraEng/corruption-in-argentinian-election-28-october-2007/
long live Islas Malvinas Argentina, british illegal aliens go home where you belong go hide under the skirt of your buttox queen.
I asked you to tell me the percentages on Cameron and Clegg,to get a second example of your statistical work.However,you did not for some reason do that.I'm sure you are aware that,usually with statistical analysis there are usually,either footnotes or clear parameters used.As I see it you do a simple calculation(simple in the days of the Internet) and arrive at a number.Why don't you observe conventions or otherwise stipulate why you are not.
Also may I point out just because you have expertise in certain areas,for you to maintain that expertise you must remember to learn and not declare yourself an authority
The right to vote or the duty to vote.There is difference and if a person does not vote you haven't got a god( except yourself of course) to tell you why that person didn't vote,but they could have done had they wanted to.Thats all you know
Finally,Argentina will have a war museum for the people of Argentina.Only a paranoid individual would find something wrong with that,don't you think?
#76 Pratt-Junta I never mentioned money for votes - would this be a guilty concience on your part?
BTW, what is a buttox queen, one of your boyfriends I take it?
#77 Yuleno Missing the point AGAIN, dear me! Maintaining my expertise can be done in many ways and the whole point of having an International Qualification is it makes me an authority when compared to others who are not qualified.
'The right to vote or the duty to vote. There is difference and if a person does not vote you haven't got a god( except yourself of course) to tell you why that person didn't vote,but they could have done had they wanted to. Thats all you know' no it is not! They did not vote for CFK, had they have done she would have had a greater percentage of the ELIGIBLE vote just as I said.
Weasel words again!
Retnuh-tarip
tripa- nuther
insults from the loser, is only expected, as envy still thrives.
addios
When there is respect for the HUMAN RIGHTS there is no search for war. What a pity that some people (argentinian, english or whatever) let's politicians and media develop warrior moods and an insane nationalism in them.
How can the BBC and other major media companies reproduce a million times the idea that the terrorism comes from islam, from eastern cultures, etc. while the UK is pointing at the rest of the world with weapons of war??
I don't agree with you or with some argentinians who participated in the war about seeing loosing as something that demoralizes, participating in wars is the thing that demoralizes people and societies!
HOW LONG till the elite governing the UK, the NATO, the Pentagon and others start respecting LIFE, human rights and PACIFIC WAYS of solving problems?? how long??
I guess pacific ways do not help colonizing, no? What happened in Libia some months ago shows the level of TERROR. Combating Ghadafi with murders doesn't make those involved better than him. It was just a few countries rushing to get a portion of the resources that were left with no owner on the name of “FREEDOM”.
www.ferminlira.com/images/visionaire.png
And for all those calling people “argie”, it is really disrespectful, not proper if you expect respect from others. Maybe I am wrong but: it gives me the idea that they are really influenced by nationalism, and a very cheap one.
And if you view, what I have wrote as a celebration of war I suppose you are quite correct as the photos show the utter demolishment of an invading army that thought it could come onto our soil our territory and ruin people’s lives in 82. Whenever a country does that to NOT the English but to the British, you will find that we will turf them out at the point of a bayonet and do anything else to make sure that the thieving bastards do not dare to set foot on our soil unless invited again.
Now if that hurts your feeling you will find I don't give a toss. We don't take kindly to people telling lies and thieving.
We will resect life when Argentina respects life and up to now, I don't see one iota of proof that Argentina will ever resect life so you can expect more of the same.
[]You don’t like us calling you ARGIE [][[
That’s interesting from a dickhead who insults us with his blogg at number [5]
1, neo-colonialism
2, I think I should go to the Buckingham palace, have a child and tell him to be self-determined to live in a tiny little cattle on the palace garden
3, selling the royal family intimate photos
4, around the globe like kelpers maintain their “auto determination
5,” Maybe these British people living in the Falklands could take care of the land they are usurping
We don’t like some of your insults,
Argentinian.
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You are correct, it is not because I cannot provide the numbers.
The discussion was about the recent Argentinean election where CFK got 38.6% of the eligible votes, not the UK.
I am not at all interested in the coalition government of my country, they should have re-run the election until a result was clear. I voted Conservative, not Liberal Democrat and despise what Clegg is doing to the country: but I suspect it won't last too much longer.
coalitions here since “ la alianza” failed, are no longer voted by people, and for example “ la coalición cívica” is getting after so poor votes of people, dissolved. It doesnt functions. I dont vote them.
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yes [3] people elect our president, the odd one out [wins[
Do you commenting here ,with a hand hamburger,other hand fried patatoes,breast pocket coke can,ass pocket plastic colt ?
I've forgotten your areas of expertise now,but I would be quite happy to supply you with those numbers should you so chose me to.
Love the obfuscation, you are the master at it.
Pity it is so negative. Get a life.
My post at 84 was honest and to the point: my post at 89 is also true.
The point is this: you are only interested in promulgating the lies of the administration, even when I try to open a truthful dialogue. So I see little more can be said.
WTF are you on about.
Or, more accurately, what the fcuk are you on?
burnt .
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