Saturday, December 17th 2011 - 02:52 UTC

Cameron: UK is a Christian country and “we should not be afraid to say so”

Prime Minister David Cameron said the UK is a Christian country “and we should not be afraid to say so”.

Incredibly proud that Britain is home to many different faith communities, said the British PM

During a speech in Oxford on the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, the prime minister called for a revival of traditional Christian values to counter Britain's “moral collapse”.

He said “live and let live” had too often become “do what you please”.

The PM said it was wrong to suggest that standing up for Christianity was “somehow doing down other faiths”. Describing himself as a “committed” but only “vaguely practising” Christian, the PM admitted he was “full of doubts” about big theological issues.

But he staunchly defended the role of religion in politics and said the Bible in particular was crucial to British values.

“We are a Christian country and we should not be afraid to say so,” he told the audience at Christ Church. “Let me be clear: I am not in any way saying that to have another faith - or no faith - is somehow wrong.

”I know and fully respect that many people in this country do not have a religion”.

“And I am also incredibly proud that Britain is home to many different faith communities, who do so much to make our country stronger.

”But what I am saying is that the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today.“

Mr Cameron said people often argued that ”politicians shouldn't 'do God'“ - a reference to a comment famously made by former No 10 spin Doctor Alistair Campbell when Tony Blair was asked about his religion.

”If by that they mean we shouldn't try to claim a direct line to God for one particular political party, they could not be more right,“ the PM said.

”But we shouldn't let our caution about that stand in the way of recognising both what our faith communities bring to our country, and also just how incredibly important faith is to so many people in Britain.“

Mr Cameron also said it was ”easier for people to believe and practise other faiths when Britain has confidence in its Christian identity“.

”Many people tell me it is much easier to be Jewish or Muslim here in Britain than it is in a secular country like France,“ he said.

”Why? Because the tolerance that Christianity demands of our society provides greater space for other religious faiths too.

“And because many of the values of a Christian country are shared by people of all faiths and indeed by people of no faith at all”. (BBC).
 

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1 so_far (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 03:06 am Report abuse
”....the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today.“

Sure David ? millons and millons know this Britain...

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2 Teaboy2 (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 03:46 am Report abuse
How about argentina compensates the native south american tribes remaining in argentina for theft of their land and for slaugthering them to near the point of extinction So_far? Surely its not one rule for the UK and a different rule for Argentina.

Bet Sarkozy will love this comment from Cameron - “Many people tell me it is much easier to be Jewish or Muslim here in Britain than it is in a secular country like France,” LOL
3 Redhoyt (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 05:17 am Report abuse
I think that Sofa has a point - the inquisition were so much better at spreading those christain moral values !
4 Fido Dido (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 06:54 am Report abuse
Ignore that smuck Cameron, he's a nobody. The Germans made that clear.

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Do you understand now why brits are ugly? told you so, when you read history careful. Good news is, they, the UK, is destroying themself by the criminals (banksters in London, who don't care about the people but themself) who are protected by the laws. Question, do you know why most die hard government criminal goes to london after being removed from their own country? answer is simple..the same laws that the banksters are protected. London is the capital of crooks, nothing more.
5 xbarilox (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 07:15 am Report abuse
we are a Christian country and we steal things in the name of our Holy Christian God hahaha

””But what I am saying is that the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today.“ yes, it's a disaster!
6 geo (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 10:14 am Report abuse
then Why have they been importing migrators from India/Pakistan.. ??
7 stick up your junta (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 10:31 am Report abuse
then Why have they been importing migrators from India/Pakistan

Cos we dont suffer from xenophobia like the argies?
8 geo (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 11:07 am Report abuse
BUT

in Britain, some 40 % of medical students and doctors are from
India/Bangladesh/Pakistan....

the per capita income of Indians in Britain is about £ 16.000 higher than others and 10 % above of medium income...

the unemployment rate of among Indians is close to half of national avarage.....
9 GeoffWard2 (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 11:29 am Report abuse
Re #3
The Inquisition was indeed a Christian invention, but was the brainchild of the Catholic sect. The UK largely took to the Anglican version of Christianity and found it less prescriptive and somewhat more humane. But this is history.

Nowadays, the state religion is Anglican Christianity and the tolerance to other sects and other religions is a part of what defines 'Britishness'.

I am fully with the PM when he calls for the Anglican standards of probity, honesty and social behaviour.
Last year's London 'rioters' who were opportunitic thieves betrayed these national standards.
The rioting arsonists were fundimentally evil, and thay are the antithesis of the tenets of Anglican Christianity.
10 geo (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 11:43 am Report abuse
we are atheists have the majority in the world....
11 ChrisR (#) Dec 17th, 2011 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
Well, I am an atheist but understand and abide by the teachings of Jesus up to the part where he says 'turn the other cheek'.

But my enemies have found that out to their cost.

We, the Brits & other Falklands supporters (there are no Malvinas) attempt as far as I can see to respect the genuine viewpoints of the reasonable Argentineans.

Then we come to the likes of xbollox, Pratt-Junta and the others who lie and rave in an attempt to emulate Goebbels and his 'If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth' doctrine. I don't turn the other cheek to the like ot them.

Cameron is an upper class millionaire, he has never lived in the real world. He found one bollock over the veto of the EU 'Agreement', he needs to find his other one and get the FCO to castrate Argentina once and for all.
12 briton (#) Dec 18th, 2011 - 12:38 am Report abuse
The Argies and the trolls are just envious and jealous,
Because they crave for some thing they can never have
The Falklands and honesty,
They always condemn what they don’t understand,
For only the lonely and ugly ones judge others by their very own standards.
.
13 O gara (#) Dec 18th, 2011 - 09:08 pm Report abuse
Geoffrey you write as if you are a tolerant person but the reality is you are a bitter little man.Anglicanism is of course nothing but Anglo Catholicism as most of its adherents admit.Indeed Cameron went extraordinarily out of his way to welcome the Pope to England recently.
Briton how u manage to bring Argentina and the islands into a debate about Camerons views on religion and the crumbling English society merely shows what a complete nutjob you are
14 Charle (#) Dec 18th, 2011 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
To those of you trying to con money out of my country the empire as you gladly remind us is over move on. You can't have anymore money than that which the UK already gladly gives in foreign aid. Your not getting anymore money from UK for a change we going to spend our money in UK. PS I actually agree swith some UK foreign aid decisions but when as in the video people are clearly trying to con money out of us it infuriates me. They see my country as the worlds cash cow instead of going out and making their own money in trade.
15 briton (#) Dec 18th, 2011 - 11:56 pm Report abuse
13 O gara that very odd,
nut job,
nuts whole hazel nut,
nothing but chocolate from an irish man in coo coo land.
nut job indeed, we prefer mars bars,

A mars a day, help you,
work rest and play,
nut job, , from an irish man,
now that was an interesting comment,
16 Rubino84 (#) Dec 19th, 2011 - 07:54 am Report abuse
Christian chruch anglo religion or wahterever you wanna call the freaks was an invetion by Henry the VIII so he could get divorce and decapitate all his wifes, VERY CHRISTIAN... Thats the values that British are SO proud of, murder, rape, pillage, piracy.
17 ChrisR (#) Dec 19th, 2011 - 09:34 am Report abuse
16 Rubino84
As usual, put the blame on someone else. The Catholic Pope would not allow divorce in any meaningful sense. Henry VIII was desperate for a son and needed the marraige to be legal, hence the reformation.

And, I suppose you think the well documented acts carried out under the Catholic doctrine over the centuries by the Pope down to the Priests of shag the women (inc. the nuns) and bugger the choirboys is an act of love then?

Hypocrital don't you think?
18 GeoffWard2 (#) Dec 19th, 2011 - 11:02 am Report abuse
O'G #13: “Geoffrey you write as if you are a tolerant person but the reality is you are a bitter little man.
Anglicanism is of course nothing but Anglo Catholicism as most of its adherents admit. Indeed Cameron went extraordinarily out of his way to welcome the Pope to England recently.”

No, O'G #13,
I am neither tolerant nor embittered.
I do not tolerate stupidity, aggression, lies and corruption - amongst other things;
and, though I have had plenty of things over my lifetime to be 'bitter' about, I have resolved the million minor issues and offer comment with equanimity.

With regard to your comments on the Topic:
I was brought up low-church Anglican;
have little time for the institution/business of the Catholic high-church; admire most life-style tenets of most major religions, abhor Sharia Law wrt to women, etc;
do no longer believe in God in any manifestation(s);
and am quite happy for a PM to see a catholic, bhuddist, hindu, or any other religious or secular leader - that's what PMs do.
19 O gara (#) Dec 19th, 2011 - 07:23 pm Report abuse
So Anglicanism founded on the butchered wifes of Henry the eight can educate the CVatholic church in tolerance.I cannot digress Geoffrey you are indeed a bitter man
20 GeoffWard2 (#) Dec 19th, 2011 - 11:38 pm Report abuse
Sigh . . .
21 briton (#) Dec 20th, 2011 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
Indeed Cameron went extraordinarily out of his way to welcome the Pope to England recently.”
Very good point,
But alas very silly, unless of course the Irish and the argentines, and the rest of the world,
Would NOT extraordinarily go out of their way to welcome the catholic pope.
,,
15, my twin, i will speak to him,

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