Argentine ambassador who ignores basic facts on the Falklands takes office in Washington
Ambassador Jorge Argüello arrived Thursday to Washington and immediately began activities as head of the Argentine embassy before the US with a first round of talks with members of his staff, according to a release from the embassy.
Argüello also held a round of phone contacts with the different Argentine consulates and trade offices in US cities.
On arriving at Washington airport Argüello was greeted by the chargé d’affairs from the embassy, Conrado Solari Irigoyen and by the head of the State Department desk for the region, Bernie Sanders.
The Argentine ambassador is scheduled to present his credentials to President Barack Obama next 18 January in the White House.
In the morning Argúello imposed in his job the new Chargé d’affairs of the Argentine representation before the United Nations Mateo Estremé. He will be in charge until the ambassador who replaces Argüello arrives in New York.
Argüello was first elected to the Argentine Lower House in 2003 and was president of the Lower House Foreign Affairs Committee and of the Parliamentary Observatory on the Malvinas Islands.
Besides his job as former ambassador to the UN, Argüello has toured the world pressing for Argentina’s sovereignty rights over the disputed Falkland Islands has managed to make some fantasy statements regarding the Islands.
One of his famous was that the Falklands’ population is held captive in the Islands by the British military, since they would love to migrate to Argentina where there are “plenty of jobs and work opportunities”.
He has also mentioned that Islanders prefer to remain in the Falklands because contrary to UK residents they receive ‘full’ social welfare benefits.
Ignoring the Falklands flourishing economy Argüello had no qualms in stating that it is precisely UK social welfare and the British military that are crucial for the ‘heavily subsidized’ Falklands colonial economy.
All his statements have been solidly denied with facts by the elected government of the Falkland Islands based on internationally audited figures.
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Long Live the Falklands.
I give it six months until he goes back to Argentina because his credibility as a serious diplomat will not survive the lies about the Malvinas (because there are no Malvinas).
Argentine ambassador who ignores basic facts on the Falklands takes office in Washington....
do you think the US state department dont check data to whom they gave diplomat credentials ? no...surely Mercopre$$ can give them some advices.
later say about Arguello....
”He has also mentioned that Islanders prefer to remain in the Falklands because contrary to UK residents they receive ‘full’ social welfare benefits.
Ignoring the Falklands flourishing economy Argüello had no qualms in stating that it is precisely UK social welfare and the British military that are crucial for the ‘heavily subsidized’ Falklands colonial economy.
......Arguello knows perfectly well what he´s talking about....he´s 100 % right.
Honest journalist and thinker people in UK know the truth that Britain hide to his tax payers contributors.....but that situation is almost over, LatiAmerica are unmasking the true intention of Britain expropriating land and stealing another country's natural resources.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQ3QI7TprA
p.s. Red..are you improving your aim in archery ? advice STFU
Argentina NEVER will give up......and international community neither, this every day will be worse if UK don´t obey UN resolutions....sit for negotation as civilized people.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQ3QI7TprA
“...I understand the Falklanders' postion.They are a tiny group, and they want to keep taking the money and keep the lucrative troop bases.And who knows - another UK Prime Minister in trouble electorally might start another war..”
South America doesn´t want UK in Malvinas, the fact!!!!
Chile has threament of UK for Antartic territories, Brazil doesn´t want UK in S. America.
UK wants occupied the territory of FI just to earn, but now, UK is losing more than he though.
Losing markets for earning money and a diplomatic status and scenarios so worst. Which kind of future do you have?
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We should also replace the Tatcher Rd for “CFK”.
“Arguello knows perfectly well what he´s talking about....he´s 100 % right”.
If I were you, I would contact the 'Ambassador' straight away and ask him for a job. Given your intellect matches his and your views are the same he is bound to offer you a superior position :o)
It looks very clear that Mercopress not hide his anger towards Argentina and her sympathy for the British cause in the Falklands conflict. You can not assimilate that this man (Jorge Arguello) has become an influential figure in diplomacy and is widely consulted by the Head of the Department of State U.S. Bernie Sanders.
The facts speak for themselves, it is clear that this man (Jorge Arguello), works with substance and intelligence and is moving very well the political threads in the UN and has arrived in the U.S. White House.
You are quite right in his comments so_far 11 and 13:
...... Arguello knows what he's talking about .... that is 100% correct.
Honest people journalist and thinker in the UK know the truth that Britain taxpayers hide their collaborators. but that situation is about to end, Latin America unmask the true intentions of Great Britain, land expropriation and theft of natural resources of another country.
You seem to be so wishing this lying numbnut to be something that he isn't that you have incorrectly promoted the poor sucker who will have to deal with him on a day to day basis ”the head of the State Department DESK for the region, Bernie Sanders.
The United States Secretary of State is Hillary Rodham Clinton and I doubt he will have much access to her. We all remember what Hillary thought of CFK don't we?
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Oh my god what a stupid stupid world.
He' not 100% right; he's a liar, and so are you, and so is Raul.
There is no UK social security here. The economy of the FI is not subsidised. The military base is not lucrative.
The taxpayers of the UK are welcome to see our audited accounts any time they like.
I realise that a government without rampant corruption must be a tricky idea for you to get your head around, but do try.
Perhaps its time the British got its finger out, and made Argentina prove all the slanderous lies in the [ICJ]
That would shut Argentina up,
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Sir CJ Greenwood is the UK Member on the ICJ for the period 2009-2081.
Unasur has its representative Member in Sr. AAC Trindade of Brasil, also 2009-2018.
LatAm also has SR. BS Amor of Mexico, 2006-2015.
Additionally, Article 31 of the statute of the ICJ sets out a procedure whereby ad hoc judges sit on contentious cases before the Court. This system allows any party/both parties to a contentious case to nominate a judge of their choosing, raising the number of judges on the case from 15 to a potential 17.
Thus, in principle and in practice, Argentina has a more powerful voting advocacy then the politically-isolated UK.
If ever there was a time for Argentina/Unasur to seek ICJ adjudication on TFI, it is now.
I read up on the subject, and would like to point out a few things:
1. Possession is 9/10ths of the law, especiallywhen it comes to territory. If the Argentines felt so strongly about these islands, why didn't they fight to win them before 1982? They've had 200 years of independence, and yet only invaded when the Junta needed to divert attention from the Dirty War.
2. Argentina first staked their claim in 1820 when David Jewett sailed the Heroina to the islands for shelter. He claimed the islands under the United Provinces of the River Plate. One of those provinces, the Eastern, became present day Uruguay. Another, the Oriental Mission, went to Brazil. Five additional provinces became Bolivia. Therefore, do not all these countries have equal claim to the Falkland/Malvinas Islands?
3. The spirit of “nativism” seems to be a key component for giving the islands to the Argentines. Because colonial power is bad. And yet, the vast majority of Argentines are descendents of European colonialists. Should the islands therefore be given to Tribal authorities, rather than (white) Argentine authorities?
4. If oil is found on the islands, it can be shipped anywhere in the world. And other Commonwealth countries / territories will shelter Falkland flagged boats. How is the present boycott of Falkland flagged boats going to return possession to Argentina?
ln the midst of a crisis “the Mayor of BsAs & the President cfk, traded insults”
Couldn't stop laughing at that one!
Thats about all these malvinistas can do...................insult! ha ha ha ha.
Poltroons.
There is no 'special relationship' between the US and Uk anymore Jayne. Your President said that very clearly when he entered the White House and removed all images of Winston Churchill and other British politicians and Royalty, then he went to London and made a great display of dis-respecting the British Queen . No Argentine leader or politician would have done that.
Time to resolve this issue peacefully is running out Jayne because when that Oil is being pumped out and shipped north detante will cease to be replaced by militarist nationalism and it will spread over the face of South America possibly involving leaders like Chavez who can invest enormous military resources into any conflict and he will also involve outside powers.
So you see how potentially dangerous this issue can become?
Britain cannot defend the islands regardless of the rhetoric you read in here. I have personally seen the quality of the British troops in the Malvinas and I was shocked. I got the impression that most of them joined the military so they could get three meals a day and a bed and have you seen Britain sending any warships and extra aircraft to the islands as a gesture of strength? Of course not - because they dont have them. In fact many British soldiers are leaving Britain to live in Australia because they are so afraid for their jobs.
And Argentina learned a lot of lessons from 1982 while Britain has not.
Britain got rid of the Harrier aircraft which could be dispersed around the islands in the event of a threat but they cannot do that with the Typhoons so once that runway at Mount Pleasant is gone the only place those aircraft can go is into the sea leaving the islands defenceless.
And in any future conflict, nobody is going to allow any British ships full of troops to sail unmolested to the islands like in 1982.
And what are the British nuclear subs going to do? vaporise BA?
“And what are the British nuclear subs going to do?vaporise BA?”
lf our backs are to the wall, Yes.
Well it's always an option.
Full of cr*p Dross - you haven't got a military worthy of the name, and your neighbour's won't help you, for all the supposed support. Venezuela might just be the exception, and wouldn't that be seen as a wonderful opportunity ...... by the US. Who are apparently giving all your leaders cancers anyway!
Astutes also carry conventionally tipped cruise missiles, no need to vapourise anything. Destroying your infrastructure will bring your President to her knees because the population FOR THE FIRST TIME would witness death and destruction first hand. It will soon end then.
The delusions of some of the Malvinenses is amazing.they delude themselves about their position in the World as they are falling apart as quickly as the USSR did.In ten years time they will be lucky if they can defend themselves not to mind the South Atlantic.The games up Europes f....d the new World order of the giant emerging countries is here .Get over it
Why are the argentines talking WAR when they claim Peace in the same breath!!
And were did You Dreyfoss get your information from an argentine fairy story book! More likely that you just made up all that GUFF that you typed!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Thanks for your support, it's good to get an outside observors view on the subject. 4 very good points for the Argentine side to consider.
34 Dreyfoss
I think you would find that despite the Obama administrations' unwelcome comments on the Falklands issue, that if you attacked us again, he would be under pressure to back us up, possibly militarily.
As we have troops serving alongside US forces in afghanistan, he would be reminded, in no uncertain terms that they owe us for all the blood and treasure we have spent helping them over there. Failure to support us would be a disaster for him and for US foreign policy.
If they abandoned us, no one would take the US seriously anymore as a friend or as a power to be reckoned with.
Besides, Obama may very well lose the next election, and the Republicans have made it clear that they intend to take a firmer line with the likes of Chavez and CFK.
We are quite well aware of the need to match emerging powers like India and China over here - there is a lot of soul searching going on about how to improve our competitive edge. We are'nt out of the running yet.
Besides I would'nt count your country as a particularly big economic threat to us. You don't have anywhere near the innovativion or productivity of India or China. You also also struggling with high inflation.
As for nuking targets in Argentina. Well it's worth remembering that they are the ultimate guarantor of our national defence. The cuts in our conventional forces may actually have lowered the threshold at which HM govt would be prepared to use nuclear weapons. That's something that Argentine strategists will have to think about if you want to go for round 2.
Sorry old chap but the USA - who supplied you with the missiles for your submarines can remotely de-activate them.
Oh Dear - didn't your government tell you that?
Sorry old chap but I'd like to see anyone try to deactivate a trident warhead while it is in it's launch tube, 200 odd feet below the surface of the atlantic.
For a start, the fire control computers are'nt connected directly to any external computer network. If they were, a clever enemy would be able to pull off just the trick you suggested, or even worse, re purpose the weapons as part of their own lay down.
They are controlled via coded messages, the US would need to get access to these, and even then, the crew of the boat would probably query orders that were nonsense via another channel of communication.
Besides, radio waves of sufficient frequency to carry enough data to interfere with the boats computer systems can't penetrate far enough into the sea, or through the hull of the boat. On top of that the computer systems are very robust and designed to be self contained.
The weapons can't be deactivated while in flight either, and turning off GPS will not affect the impact point. These things are built for total war.
Your scenario would only happen in a “James Bond” or “Mission Impossible” film.
Anyway, the chance of them being used is VERY remote, too many of your civilians would die, unless you did something really despicable.
However you can expect RN attack subs to fire their Tomahawks cruise missiles against Argentine targets. CFK would be a legitimate leadership target at La Casa Rosada or the Quinta de Olivos as part of a decapitation strategy. She may take this into account before ordering your armed forces to attack us again.
Bottom line. Whichever way you turn you are failures. Can't manage economics. Can't manage an extermination programme. Can't manage an invasion. Can't manage an occupation. Can't manage a defence against the finest armed forces in the world.
Perhaps, when you manage to drag yourselves up from the Stone Age, you will have learned not to try to take on someone so far beyond your abilities.
@41 Would you like to hear a joke? The warheads on British Trident D5 missiles are British-designed and British-manufactured. In addition, the missiles can be fired using data from inertial navigation. Thereby avoiding interference with or from the American GPS. It's why it's called an “independent” nuclear deterrent. Oh dear, did your propagandist government not tell you that? If Britain decides to launch its nuclear weapons, no-one, NO-ONE, will be able interfere. Flight time is less than 30 minutes. Thought you should know that. Always a good idea to know when you are going to die/be vapourised/melt.
There should be no question of the UK/US relationship it has been strong for over 100+ yrs and nothing and no one is ever going to change it.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrX-LN9-L0
Get the message, dreyfoss?
We have more than just a few countries that unlike you we can call upon to come to our aid if the need arise. All you have are a few countries that you bully and intimidate with your rhetoric who would at the drop of a hat drop you right in the shit at the first hint of trouble. That's not to say they are not honourable and brave, it’s just that deep down they hate your guts and can see your country for what it really is. A country that has no future unless it changes its ways and whose leaders always put themselves first and who are as corrupt as the day is long.
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Once in the air they can come directly under the control of the US.
@46 yankeeboy (#) 'SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP' Winston Churchill used this term in his 'Sinews of Peace Address' at Westminster College, Fulton, Missouri, in March 1946 (more commonly called the Iron Curtain speech)
The 'special relationship' effectively ended in 1947 when your prime minister Clement Atlee begged the USA for a massive loan of some $6 billion to re-build the British economy and the Americans screwed you so badly with interest it took you until 2006 to fully pay it off (This loan is mistakenly believed by most British to be the 'Lend-'Lease' loan which again serves to emphasise your ignorance.
The 'Special Relationship' effectively ended when the Iron Wall came down and the USA entered a period of 'open door' immigration which has resulted in an America having a predominantly non Anglo/European majority.
No President of the USA will put the interests of a declining foreign power like Britain before a majority electorate, most of whom share no cultural links with you and can't speak English. In fact I doubt if the USA will even be an English speaking nation by 2090.
LOL. I don't think you got what “inertila guidance” meant. You can't rely on GPS being operational in the event of the kind of war that Trident was built for. You also can't rely on the USA being able to give the kind of support you seem to think we need. The President could be a permament shadow on the floor, as could our PM. There may be no-one to turn to for help.
The whole idea of the deterrent is that NO ONE CAN STOP IT short of putting a torpedo into the boat.
If it requires outside activation or satellite control, it becomes vulnerable to attack by your enemy (in this case the Soviet Union was envisaged as the prime candidate). The Soviets were good at penetrating western governments. If they suborned the command and control system that you imagine we are using, they would have re-targeted the Weapons on launch.
I know very well where the things are built, and the various contractors who are responsible. It's all a matter of public record. I actually watched one go out on deterrent patrol recently. I really would'nt try to patronise me old chap.
You are displaying you're own ignorance about military technology and you're own pre-disposition towards conspiracy theories.
This is'nt the X files you know.
No power on Earth can stop those weapons being depolyed once the launch keys are turned.
Without a thought for the consequences,
In the white house on Christmas eve, in a reply that Santa clause
May be delayed, he was heard to mutter,
The British are probably holding him hostage .
Did not go down well with the elf’s .
Thank CFK it was only a dream
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At the end of this month the oil rig LEIV EIRIKSSON will be drilling in the SFB and Eastern aspect of the SFB for BOR and FOGL. According to Argentina this drilling is illegal (although they choose not to challenge this in a court of law with jurisdiction {the ICJ} which kind of makes a mockery of such a claim).
If Brazil really supported Argentina and its claims regarding oil exploration then surely it would have nothing to do with the oil rig and refuse to allow it into port?
As it transpires this rig with arrive in Brazil this week (based on speed, heading and distance calculations). I suggest this simple act of supporting the FIG and the companies holding licenses issued by the FIG clearly demonstrates where Brazil's priorities lie. Click the link below and zoom out and you will see where the rig is heading.
www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=308243000¢erx=-30.64137¢ery=-4.01084&zoom=10&type_color=8
Thanks for supporting the economy of the FI Brazil :-) Chuckle Chuckle (where has Think gone? No staying power?)
Do you wish to disagree with me? Will it be impounded by the Brazilians?
You think you Americans can,
[]53 Conqueror [] you think they cant,
One scenario to this question, is what if we get an American president that don’t like us, what if , he refuses, what if he falls out with us,
Do you really think the British have paid out over 30billion plus for a sub and missile, that we cant use/ ,mr Obama, is the man, if any , to say NO, so it has to be independent
So the answer is, the British government has the right to say, when and where,
The only thing the Americans can do, is put pressure on the British, not to,?
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56 Kipling [fifty years from now] you may have a point]
Brazil has bigger fish to fry, for her to get her ambitions, she may well have to let Argentina go, or at the very least, reduce reliance and or dependencies .
To back Argentina up, with anything more than talk, would risk her future,
The world is expecting big things from her, so why would she throw it all away, because of a few rocks that has nothing to do with her,
Brazil, she is a growing oil exporter, and will grow, billions will be made,
Oil rigs in the sea, pipe lines shore establishment, oil terminals,
[need is say any more]
Brazil has a future, a bright future, a great future, but theirs always a bloody fly in every soup,
In this case its [Argentina] you work it out//, A country that had a great future [all gone]
Because of their governments obsession and deluded greed over the Falklands, and anti british rhetoric.
2012 will be the year of the British ,// So run away now, were busy .
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I'd thought I'd ask you answer 3 questions about Trident, just to finally clear this topic up once and for all. I really am interested in getting a reply from you.
1 How did you find out about it, or did you figure it out yourself?
2 Can you produce some documentary evidence to back up your claim and
refute both what I have read and learned 1st hand from talking to people in our military? This needs a technical description of how the US actually goes about gaining control of the weapons (I grant you they could always put diplomatic and economic pressure on us not to use them).
3 If you figured this out by yourself, why have'nt we done the same - and found some way to circumvent US restrictions. After all we may wnat to hit someone that the US considers to be a friend. Like Argentina.....
and not [50]
sorry
Other leaders have made faux pas in protocol with the Queen, and long term diplomacy, alliances, and relationships continued unabated. Each president decorates the Oval Office as he sees fit, art comes and goes into the archives. The president and first lady have been received multiple times in Buckingham Palace, and the US-Anglo relationship continues unabated.
I'm not sure where Argentina goes from here, CFK scored domestic political points that got her re-elected. But the same comments have only made British politicians and citizens dig in their heels about defending the Falkland / Malvinas islands.
Please don't call cfk a witch.
lt gives us witches a bad name! lol.
l prefer to regard her as a misguided elemental.:)
You surprised me with that comment because: “The Welsh name Isolde means - A name that signifies ”fair lady.“ This is the name of the heroine in the medieval romance Tristan and Isolde” However, I suppose a good witch can be / is a “FairLady” lol :o)
Hope you are enjoying your summer (mild winter up here at the mo) and that the new year is good to everyone way down south!
What kind of elemental do you think CFK is - my guess would be a sylph, a HOT air elemental.
I do like your assertion that ”which has resulted in an America having a predominantly non Anglo/European majority.“ Have you seen this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Population A few minutes thought ought to have you asking this question. If 63.7% of the US population are ”white”, where do they come from? Note that that figure excludes Hispanics and Latinos. So did you work your idea out by yourself or has someone been telling you lies? Same sort of situation as in 1982 when invading argentines thought they would be welcomed as liberators. You and Arguello are two of a kind.
As I write I see that you haven't made any comments this year. See if you can score a double first by admitting you've been wrong and don't know what you are talking about!
The main reason he looks like that, is he was once turned down by the girl guides
And got into the brownies,
Still nothing changes then
Brownnosing
Jorge Argüello, the man no body wants .
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I mean an elemental made of hot air, just like any other politician.
l just call cfk, mrs rubberface. Not very complimentary, l know & not very Christian either but she is a warmonger afterall.
Of course you can call her what you like. Even a witch if you want to!
l was lightly joking, my youngest daughter is witchy also.♥
just a sizzerling thought .
all you guys do is whinge and moan go and settle down in a retirement village and go get a life :0
While the Argentines are trying to reclaim some islands with a variety of owners, you're all for it. What happens when the tribes go to the international courts to try to take back land from people with surnames like Farrel?
I do wish people would refrain from name-calling on this thread (both sides). It does not help when CFK made disparaging remarks about the British prime minister. So far he has refrained from upping the ante, but merely referred to the residents' rights to self-determination and the referendum from 10 years ago.
I also have some sympathy for CFK and female politicians in general. When they allow themselves to age naturally, they are made fun of (Hilary Clinton is ridiculed often), and when they have “improvement” procedures, they are also ridiculed. Male politicians, on the other hand, can be balding, portly, wrinkled hangdogs, alternate between two suits (one blue, one black), or jogging suits, and no none thinks twice of it.
Very true re any female in any position of power.
Damned if you do & damned if you don't.
Won't that be a laugh, if Argentina is forced to hand over land to the native peoples?
l suppose they'll all be descended from the natives then?:)
Just think, sr Think may have to give up his farm & move back to Sweden :)!
Anyway, Jayne, the Argentines would refuse to accept any court's ruling that they didn't like.
l suppose they'll all (claim to) be descended from the natives then.”
Interesting proposition, Isolde.
Totally impractical, of course:
what proportion of genes would constitute 'native' (indigenous)? . . . 50%, 10%, 1%, 100%?
Still, good for a smile on this bright and sunny morning.
Is not this a laugh, if Argentina is forced to give up land to the native peoples?
I guess everything will be descendants of the natives, then:?)
Just think, Mr. Think you have to give up his ranch and return to Sweden:)!
Anyway, Jayne, Argentines refuse to accept the decision of any court that he did not like.
Pathetic and sad your comments: With the respect you deserve, being an older person may be my mother, I totally wrong. As I'm proud of Argentina Cristina Kirchner deliver and return the land to the Indians as did Eva Peron with the natives of the Chaco Boreal. Today the British exploitative employers think quebracho remove again, killing Indians as they did in the past, but find a strong position to defend the indigenous government of Cristina Kirchner. Our country has already returned to indigenous lands as long ago in which huarpes.
What you need to make fun of the misfortune of others?
At your age you have to make an examination of conscience, not your curses to others, you will return against you, against your loved ones. Still spitting up that you'll regret.
God help you
Today the British exploitative employers think quebracho remove again, killing Indians as they did in the past/////////////////
ARE you making a statement of truth or more lies,
Please provide the proof that the British, today are killing Indians on argie soil,
As for ageism
How do you know [ lsolde ], is old [did I get that right]
Is this not insulting, she may well be a very nice 20/30 rear old,
That was rude, my man
After all you would not like it if someone call your glorious leader a Barbie doll looking for her own action man, [would you?] unless you would like to volunteer,
No offence is ever intended,
But the interpretations may be.
Ditto .
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your stories have the same saga-like qualities as Beowulf.
In the days of old Europe of the 6th century people actually believed such stories.
Over the centuries they have become the stuff of legend and the starting point for the study of 'English' literature.
and not 20/30 rear old, sorry.
@79Raul,
As briton said, you have no idea how old l am.
How on earth did you decide that l'm old? l'd be interested to know.
l might be & l might not be?
Do l use old fashioned English?
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
After all the Argentine's posing, posturing, whining,lying,complaining & crying about their beloved “malvinas”(which do not exist), lf they had to hand stolen land back to the native peoples, l would laugh until l cried.
Poetic Justice, l would say.♥
Yes, Raul, l would enjoy it, l'm not ashamed to say.
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