Friday, January 20th 2012 - 14:45 UTC

Falklands/Malvinas bilateral issue, but Islands are covered by EU as British OT

The European Union considers that the new tense situation between Argentina and the UK over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands is a “bilateral issue”, however the Falklands figure under EU treaties as a British Overseas Territory, said the EU Foreign Affairs Representative spokesperson.

Catherine Ashton, High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy

“This is fundamentally a bilateral issue between the UK and Argentina”, said Michael Mann spokesperson for Catherine Ashton, High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy.

However he also pointed out that based on the EU treaties the Falkland Islands are included as a territory dependent from one of EU member states.

“The situation is quite clear: the territories that include the Falkland Islands are covered by the Treaty, they depend from the member states”, added Mann.

However the spokesperson did not provide further details on the situation during the daily round of questions at the European Commission.

The Argentina/UK situation over the Falklands has again escalated following the controversy about the Falklands’ flagged vessels barred from Mercosur ports and statements from PM David Cameron describing Argentina’s attitude towards the Islanders as “colonialism”, which triggered an immediate reaction from Buenos Aires.

Furthermore Cameron revealed to Parliament he had recently held a meeting with the National Security Council devoted entirely to the situation in the South Atlantic territories with the purpose of making sure “defences and everything else are in order”.

Likewise he insisted that “the absolutely vital point is that we are clear that the future of the Falkland Islands is a matter for the people themselves. As long as they want to remain part of the United Kingdom and be British, they should be able to do so”.

The London media later revealed that Cameron was warned by British intelligence that Argentina was plotting a mock invasion by sending Argentine fishermen to land on the Falklands and South Georgia to plant an Argentine flag.

This is a very sensitive year since next April 2 is the 30th anniversary of the Argentine military invasion of the Falklands and their recovery 74 days later (June 14) by a multi-theatre task force sent by then PM Margaret Thatcher.
 

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1 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
Europe backs the Rights of the Falklanders to Live in Peace and not put under threat from the Colonial argentine regime of CFK!!!!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
2 geo (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
who cartooned it ...?? !!

www.economist.com/node/21543150
3 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
It just proves the Falklanders have Rights!
The right to choose there Own Future and not live under the threat of argentine Colonialism!!

Long Live the falklands.
4 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
Argentine colonialism hahaha

The lack or arguments and desperation from the UK are surprising...
5 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:24 pm Report abuse
@4 Under your reckoning and logic, since we used to be colonialist, we must be now, and must still be in the same frame of mind, and that the Falklands must therefore be a colonial possession.

So does that mean that since you used to be a corrupt, and aggressive little state, that defaults on its loans, and was lead by an very angry bitter leader, that's policy on the Falklands failed, you still are ?
6 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:31 pm Report abuse
@ 5

Malvinas is a colony. I don´t say so. The UN does. It´s a NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORY.
www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

The UK was and still is a “Cross colonial power in decline”. (You know the author)

Cameron calls Argentina colonialist... when colonialism is characteristic to the UK all along its history...

Islanders call Argentina “agresive” when they invaded the islands and expelled original population by the use of force.

It amazing. The UK is desperate and lacks arguments. Cameron only puts the UK in an isolated position. He´s rediculizing the UK.

The world knows the truth and backs Argentina.

Take a nervocalm an get over it, MR Cameron.
7 Viva Las Falklands (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:34 pm Report abuse
Try Argentine Imperalism!

Also the Falkland Islanders or the UK government do not need to argue. The Falklands are British.
You decided to go to war and failed. Why on earth do you think your tactics now will succeed? Your tatic to convince the Falklander Islanders to become Spanish oh I mean Argentine has failed your argumentis therefore lacking. Back to the drawing board for you.
8 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
@7 Vivan las Islas Malvinas

Malvinas are not British. Ask Latinamerica, Asia and Africa.

A dictatorship decided to go to war and failed.
We think diplomacy will succeed cos the world is not backing colonialism no more and the UK will be isolated in its position.

We don´t want to make them argentine. They already are, since they were born in Argentina, you smart boy. And if the nationality is the problem, then can stay British, who cares? We claim the islands are argentine. Islas argentinas, islanders british would be a good option. :)
9 Crackpot (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:52 pm Report abuse
@6: Islas Falkland

The UK will carry on doing what it has been doing for decades. Just pottering around its territories in the South Atlantic looking after its interests and minding its own business. Meanwhile, the Falkland Islanders will be happily carrying on with their lives developing their extremely successful economy oblivious of all the insane and inane ranting across the water and secure in the knowledge that the UK is there to defend them if necessary, as is their right as a BOT.

Kind of sticks in your scraggy Argentinian craw, doesn't it.
10 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
@8 Islas Malvinas (#) But your missing one group of people out in that list, because they think they are British. And thats the ISLANDERS !!
Argentina only had them after they murdered the flag bearer who lived on the island and started an illegal occupation...

I think the fact that this is a good argument has you all reeling with frustration aha Cameron doesnt seem that bothered, but after he makes one little remark you all shite yourself and start crying aha

And btw a colony is different to a non-self governing territory. You just angry because it doesn't say Argentinian governed territory lol
11 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
@9 Cockroach

“The UK will carry on doing what it has been doing for decades”: Exploiting other countrie´s resources.

@ 10 Thor

The wishes of the islanders are not consider, as per UN.
The iligal ocupants are british, that explains Argentina´s international support. Don´t lie.
The UK does not want to talk about Malvinas cos it does not have much to say. And when Cameron speaks up, he makes the world laugh at him: first with the Full Stop, now with Argentina Colonialism. Give me a break!

The UN clearly states Malvinas is a colonial situation.

You only lie cos you don´t have arguments. You only have weapons.
12 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
lie ? ahah so an account in the 'The Voyage of the Beagle', which was actually written at the time, is not as reliable as the made-up history of your government ?! Oh the irony :')

Cameron is alot better than the old dear that heads your state. He spoke up to Europe, and had them come crawling back.......
Whos laughed at him ? Made up accounts ?
Where does it state that its a colonial situation ? We're not in the 19th century son, its the 21st. Its a territory that has its own autonomous people with its own governor, and you are not going to change that.
13 Green Goose (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 05:52 pm Report abuse
'The UN clearly states Malvinas is a colonial situation.'

LOL!!!! The UN General Assembly (of dictatorships and human rights abusers) can only recommend. It has no power - for a good reason. Why don't you take your case to the ICJ? You are a signatory.
14 Conqueror (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 05:54 pm Report abuse
@4 & 11

Your problem, stupid, is that you can't read and you don't listen. If you could do either you would be able to go through the Mercopress archives and read every single word published in favour of the Falkland Islanders having what they want and are entitled to and, in addition, every single word refuting argie mendacious claims.

Try to understand something once and for all. The UN doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. Please note how much attention you scumbags pay to the UN unless it suits you.
There were some illegal occupants. 30 years ago. But we stood up, as we will do again in the future, and kicked your sorry little asses off. That's what we do to trespassers. The UK has nothing to say about the “Malvinas” because they don't exist, you dumbbrain. There are some islands called the Falkland Islands on which the UK position is quite clear. The Falkland Islanders want to have as little to do with a bunch of mendacious, creepy, greasy, cheating dagoes and spics as possible.

And, as I pointed out, we don't give any more of a toss for the UN as you do.

But you're right. We do have weapons. Now here's a tip, dogs breath. Last time we arranged for 649 of your little kiddies not to come home. We arranged for them to “conquer” part of the Falkland Islands. They each got a piece 6 feet long, 2 feet wide and 6 feet deep. Except for the ones that weren't buoyant enough. They finished up as fish food.

Now if you want to come again, I'm in favour of increasing the figures for Round 2. I reckon we should make you pay a thousand times as many. And please don't make any mistakes. Last time we didn't have any cruise missiles. Last time we didn't bother with the mainland. Next time we will. They do say that if you want a sure kill, go for the head. Buenos Aires will be No. 1 target. Let's see how you like having your lives disrupted. Perhaps we'll land a division of Challenger 2 MBTs as well to rampage around a bit.

You want to play hardball, sonny? We'll show you how!
15 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
@12

Where does it state that its a colonial situation ?

www.falklands.info/history/resolution2065.html
Resolution 2065 (XX)
Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

”Considering that its resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing to an end everywhere colonialism in all its forms, one of which covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)”

You are a Colony.
16 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
i am a colony ? Well that doesnt make much sense, im a person you fool
And I notice you didnt comment on The Voyage of the Beagle because it the truth.....

And the fact that It is no longer a colony but a non-self governing Island, with its own governor and an autonomous populace, means that your argument is invalid.
17 Viva Las Falklands (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
@15 Falkland Islands

Once Argentina decided to invade the Falkland Islands the previous UN resolutions became irrelavant. The matter was then resolved by military action. Just because Argentina illegally invaded the Falklands it cant say it's government was a dictatorship so that does not count.

The Falkland Islanders are British and certainly not Argentine. Just because your constitution says so does not mean a foreign land is yours.

Oh by the way Britain will stand by the Falkland Islanders have not doubt.
18 MichaelLocke (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
Let's just do what France did and incorporate the overseas territories properly - they'll be taken off that inane list.
19 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 07:34 pm Report abuse
@16 You´re not a colony. You´re retarded.

“With its own governor” that should PLEASE the Queen od England (FI Constitution).

@ Vivan las Islas Malvinas

Argentine rights over the islands go far beyond the conflict of 1982.
Las Islas Malvinas son argentinas.
20 King (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
“This is fundamentally a bilateral issue between the UK and Argentina” are the same words all of Europa countries said in the second world war about the holocaust. It~s a issue betwen deutches and judeos..... Don~t be blind....
UK is a colonialist countrie and is usin the reason of the strongers.....
21 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 07:57 pm Report abuse
As I have said before the Falklanders will decide there own Future and will not be Dictated too by argentina!!!

The Falklands have NEVER belonged too argentina and NO amount of argentine Lies is going to change that!!!

Long Live the Falklands.

Down with argentine Colonialism.
22 briton (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:12 pm Report abuse
Can you imagine the out come here,
Spanish and Dutch military going south to deter argentine,
You couldn’t make it up .
.
23 Liberato (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
Well this article describe that Europe is not England and the US is not that close to the british.
Catherine Ashton (High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy): “This is fundamentally a bilateral issue between the UK and Argentina”. was a trilateral issue which included the “falklands”?.
www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/01/182294.htm
US department of state: we recognize a de Facto british administration but not a legitimate administration and take no sides in the sovereignty dispute.
24 Viva Las Falklands (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
@ 19 Falkland Islands
Argentina has no rights over the Falkland Island. What planet are you on!
Argentina purely relies on another colonial powers occupation to justify it's so called rights to the Islands. Yet you now deny argentina has been or is involved in colonialism. By the way Spain continues to have colonies in North Africa.

I have no axe to grind with Argentina apart from this imperalistic attitude to the Islands that do not and have never been part of Argentina.
25 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
@23
What has the US got to do with UK, Falklands, and Europe, do get with the message here!!!! Britain unlike argentina does not need america to deal with any problems!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
26 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
papamosca:What has the US got to do with UK, Falklands, and Europe, do get with the message here!!!! Britain unlike argentina does not need america to deal with any problems!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!
uk is FINISHED!!!
27 Crackpot (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
@23 Liberace: “US department of state: we recognize a de Facto british administration but not a legitimate administration and take no sides in the sovereignty dispute.”

I see you have coveniently added a bit of text that isn't actually there: “...but not a legitimate administration....”

Maybe you need to read it again, because what it actually says is:

“We recognize de facto United Kingdom administration of the islands but take no position regarding sovereignty.”

I'd stick to playing the piano, if I was you, Liberace.
28 Dot (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
Well i must say that any press regarding the Falkland Islands is good press as it just highlights the pathetic attempts by Argentina trying their best to make the rest of the world believe their version of history and even more feeble claims over the FALKLAND ISLANDS!!!
The Falkland Islands are British and they will remain British, get over it Argentina.
As for the other South American countries who are being bullied into supporting Argentina, shame on you, it just shows how greedy they all are, let's face it they all want the black gold, they don't care two hoots about the Falkland Islanders.
29 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
@26
Sorry You got that Wrong!!!
argentina is the one thats FINISHED!!!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
30 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:51 pm Report abuse
@28 Punto

Stop crying... and start learning Spanish, you´ll need it.
31 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
19 Islas Malvinas (#) LOL I love how you resort to petty, unimaginative and witless insults, because you were proved wrong aha I see how you've still just ignored my main point, because you know im right :') 'Learn Spanish' , that's the words of a colonialist , who thinks they're taking over somewhere. I emphasise the 'thinks'......
32 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
@ 31 Thor

“You were proved wrong” (?) Explain yourself...
33 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
We dont want foreigns in our land. Three thousands of peoples no submit one continent. Trade is trade, and it is is good for our people. But, more important is our culture, language, traditions and holy sacraments of Catholic Church. Falklands no we. Falklands is one cancer in South América.
34 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
@32 Islas Malvinas Why dont you re-read my post, and reply to my comments about the beagle......
35 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
You gotta watch this

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMXnhu32mKE
36 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
35 Islas Malvinas (#) I love how you still fail to acknowledge my point :') haha
37 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:14 pm Report abuse
@33
The Falklanders feel the same last thing they need is a load of argentine conquistadors !!!!

Long Live the Falklands.

Down with argentine Colonialists.
38 Alexx (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
Long Live Catherine Jenkins

Long Live England --Long Live Republic
39 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
@35 Islas Malvinas (#) You have picked a most ridiculous video, that has interviewed two of the most naive and idiotic people that could have appeared in an interview bearing some sort of official status. Im far younger than theses people and even i know that what they're are saying is a load of jealous 'codswallop' that bears little if any resemblance to reality. Have you finished with your pathetic diversionary tactic, or are you still not prepared to address the point i made ?
40 Islander1 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
Ilas-M - you are another one of the Fantasy folk with this myth that all were expelled in 1833! Check the Records in Buenos Aires - As Well as in London! They will show you quite clearly that only the Militia from BA were expelled - all the settlers were invited to stay if they wished - and all did - apart from 2 couples - 1Uruguyan and 1 Brazillian.
As Thor points out - their prescence was again documented by Charles Darwin in the Beagle in 1845.
At least one of the ladies married a British settler - and thus the blood still runs in some Islanders today- who want NOTHING to do with Argentina - so now you see you have blood descended from Argentina telling you this as well!!
The last of those folks did about 1870 and is buried here in Stanley Cemetery.

I am happy to debate facts and sides of stories on here but am so sick of all the lies and bullshit - but I do feel for you - when you have decades of Senior Arg Govt officials shouting strings of lies - its natural that you start to believe them!
Like who would get any revenue from mineral resources!- FACT is and your President knows it as well - UK gets 0% - all accrues to the Elected Islands Govt, but the truth is not a good story - so she lies.
41 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
@38
Do you mean Katherine Jenkins the Welsh singer??
Hope so because she is GOOD!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
42 Islas Malvinas (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
@39 Go cry with mummy
43 briton (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:44 pm Report abuse
Betting this time next year, you will still be shouting, the brits are Finnish, brits go home , the Falklands are Argentina’s,
And guess what,
It will still be the same, nothing will change, and the Falklands will remain British,
But alas, children do not understand this, even when proved liars, they just ignore you , change the subject, or just turn a blind eye,
But as long as their is true democracy, then self determination is alive and well,
And no more text fixing please .
44 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:45 pm Report abuse
@42 Islas Malvinas (#) I take that as your incapable of even contemplating of an effort to counter my argument.....
Or in 'simple' terms for you, I win :D
45 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
South América, we need strong against the new invasion of british media. We are latins, we are consequence of Spain and Portugal. No forgiven. In south of the earth, we are buil our homes. We fight against conditions from the clima. We see our sons murder in the rains forests. We build one continent. We are victorious, we are true conquerors...for ever and ever. South America is catholic. And you? South América is portunhol. And you? Long live for us!!!
46 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
@42
Are you getting Worried, No long winded tirade thats not like You at all!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
47 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
@45 Brasileiro (#) you also have stolen your lands from others and murdered many of the populace. Rather ironic when you harp on about the empire all the time, considering that many of you are doing it now.....
48 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
@47 Talk your poison in the lands conquered for British Empire. Talk to australian people, talk to black huron, talk to Quebec. You dont know speak.
49 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
@45
You should concentrate your efforts on your own country rather than seeking Colonial ambitions on the peaceful Falkland Islands!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
50 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
@48 Brasileiro Mate you dont know what you speak off. At least we didnt just wipe people out and move in. We introduced education, infrastructure law. We hepled some countries become what they are today. What did you do ? Kill em and move in. Just like you did in the Falklands .....You know not what you speak of, you unintelligent brainless carcass.....
51 geo (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
** 49 papma
you should concentrate your efforts on your huge debts pay back rather than seeking opportunities on the foreign doors thresholds....!!
52 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
Time. If you speak NOW. It is another time. Time for Portugal and Spain finish. Time for England, now, finish too. My ancestors go to South América in sec XVI. England is (past verb) one children. No compares. If our world in Europe is decadent, yours sons in SA are strong.
53 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:14 pm Report abuse
@52 Brasileiro (#) You make no sense....
@51 geo (#) We'll be fine, you defaulted a few years back and look at you. We havnt even defaulted yet so i thik we'll be alright :') Oh didnt i beat you in an argument which you failed to come back at a while ago ? Your a pesky bunch arnt you....
54 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
@53
Do you speak portuguese?
55 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
@54 No but i think it may be better for you to write it and i will use an interpreter ?
56 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:19 pm Report abuse
@51
At least the UK Pays its debts UNLIKE argentina!!! Maybe thats why argentina cannot get any Loans and wants to take the Falklands oil discovery revenues!!

@52
Time for you to take your Medication and calm down!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
57 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
If y stay in this site is because i want grow in culture. But, like latin, english is another dacadent language. I will learn mandarin!!
58 Dot (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:24 pm Report abuse
@30, what the hell makes you think i'm crying? all i can do is laugh at your ridiculous responses to posts on here, i have no desire to learn your language either, i have no use for it after all and never will thanks :-)
59 Papamoa (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
@57
If you want to get anywhere in this World learn English, you will earn more and go further Financially and in Spirit!!!!!

Long Live the Falklands.
60 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
@57 Brasileiro (#) Yet again you fail to make any conceivable sense ?....
61 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
Brazil is one Portugal Great. For this Portugal no conquered for Spain. The language is powerful dominance. Brazil is one large country, and us no speak one only single word in english. Brazil speak portuguese. And, if you want trade with us, you will speak in portuguese or portunhol or you a speak alone....for ever and ever!
62 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
@61 Brasileiro So your argument is that i should renounce the english language and use Portuguese instead ? Your a crazy little man.....I like how you shifted the argument from Empire disgraces and the Crimes against humanity that happened and is still happening in Brazil today

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/9005835/Loggers-burned-Amazon-tribe-girl-alive.html
63 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
Crimes. More or less than Germany or England?
64 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:46 pm Report abuse
@63 Brasileiro (#) My point is that you cant harp on about the empire, and act 'squeaky clean'. At least with the empire, we brought alot of good that arguably outweighed the bad.....
65 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
outweighed holocaust? and the tribes war in europe? You are a saxon, dont?
66 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:50 pm Report abuse
65 Brasileiro (#) Again at what point did i say that it was worse than the holocaust ? But seen as though you brought it up, south america was the number on place to be after ww2 for Ex-Nazi's.....

Whats the 'Tribes was' ? And i am British.
67 stick up your junta (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:55 pm Report abuse
@35

Nice try, but i think press tv may have the hump with the UK and the report may be a tad biased

Iran's Press TV loses UK licenceOfcom revokes English-language channel's licence for breaching the Communications Act

www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/20/iran-press-tv-loses-uk-licence?newsfeed=true
68 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
I know. Your life is full of ignorance about humanity. You are one british citizen. and you want the total planet earth like you and you culture. But, is not possible. For ever and ever!
69 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:00 pm Report abuse
@68 Brasileiro (#) You failed to address my argument ? how are threatening your culture ? You ignorant buffoon....
70 briton (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
you you gre, brazil is nut no you not see your notes no
brazil football in spain empire, argentina rules brazil yes, you beg argentina yes we agree yes,
71 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:05 pm Report abuse
Please, talk with education.
72 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:06 pm Report abuse
@71 Brasileiro Im sorry i dont think that sentence makes sense, or any of your points for that matter.....
73 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:12 pm Report abuse
i know, you excuse will acepts
74 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:14 pm Report abuse
@73 Brasileiro (#) Dont worry after this i will fail to acknowledge you as you dont seem to be able to add anything constructive anyway. Good day to you.
75 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:16 pm Report abuse
i will like one single youtube, do you can see now?
76 briton (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:16 pm Report abuse
agreed
77 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:22 pm Report abuse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNdP9WCz97A&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=136&feature=plpp_video^............é esse
78 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwziS2aE6Ww :) I know how the 'specials' like a good sing along :)
79 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:31 pm Report abuse
hehehe. We no Britishs!
80 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:33 pm Report abuse
And 'we are no Brazilian'. We are just people .
81 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:34 pm Report abuse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMNShtjCYH8&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=38&feature=plpp_video
We no portuguese, but we like this!
82 THOR94 (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:38 pm Report abuse
and we all love this www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl8etDqvvmQ
83 Brasileiro (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
Argentina in 1982?
84 Wireless (#) Jan 20th, 2012 - 11:59 pm Report abuse
I don't know why we bother arguing with these malvinist idiots, all we need to do is blow them away when they invade, other than that they are a poor joke and not worth the shit we wipe from our feet.
85 Brasileiro (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 12:02 am Report abuse
In the next invasion, you will see troops ans navys from all South America. I wait than peace resolution the problem. No more Argentina or UK. This is a global problem! Included USA!
86 Lord Ton (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 12:37 am Report abuse
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/demonstrations-outside-the-british-embassy-in-buenos-aires/

Burning flags? Or burning their bridges ??
87 johnfarrel2050 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 02:05 am Report abuse
All the world, including United States, is requesting UK to negotiate with Argentina. Everybody know the lies of UK to steal territories. The self-dermination is another big lie.
Why United Kingdom does not allow Argentinean travel to live in the Islands? Of course, because they know that in this case a lot of Argentinean will travel to live there, and probably they will claim the Sovereignty of these territories. UK, only has the power to mantain there, a few islanders (around 2 thousand) to try to demostrate this “self-dermination”. Therefore it´s true some islanders don´t want to be Argentinean, but it is so because UK shut, during a lot of years, the frontiers of these Islands to the Argentinean, who are the real owners of these lands. Clearly the self- determination is a big lie, in these Islands there is a british colony as a consequence of stealing them, by UK.
88 dreyfoss (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 02:10 am Report abuse
”Last night former military top brass raised serious concerns about whether Britain would be able to defend the Falklands amid sweeping cuts to the Armed Forces.
General Sir Peter Whiteley, a former commandant general of the Royal Marines, said: ‘If the Argentines decided to invade again we could never consider trying to take them (the Falklands) back because of our lack of naval resources.
And Surgeon Rear Admiral Ralph Curr, the Royal Navy’s former medical director-general, added: ‘There’s no way we could defend the Falklands or re-engage the Argentines if it all happened again.’

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089504/Falkland-Islands-protest-outside-British-Embassy-Buenos-Aires-tensions-rise.html#ixzz1k3S6npA9
89 Frank (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 02:58 am Report abuse
'A frenzied mob ' of 100? They don't look too frenzied to me and 100 isn't a mob... its not even a street party... barely even a gathering.
Obviously the puppeteers in the Casa Rosada would be hard pressed to to organise a piss-up in a brewery, in fact I doubt they could even get a bang in a knock shop....
90 Lord Ton (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:01 am Report abuse
JF - outsiders going to live in the Falklands is restricted by the UN. You need to study more !!

:-)
91 johnfarrel2050 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:23 am Report abuse
Lorn Torn, The UN and a lot of countries (included US) requested UK to negotiate with Argentina but this country doesn´t pay attention of this claims because it is opposite to the UK interests. However, these restrictions help to this keep big lie (self determination) of this country then in this case for UK it is important to be accomplished.
92 Frank (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:30 am Report abuse
they want them to talk in the hope that the RGs will STFU.... some chance
93 Lord Ton (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:30 am Report abuse
REQUESTED ! I get 'requests' for money from beggers every time I walk down the street. Requests are often best ignored !

Self-determination is the truth - for everyone, except Argentina.

And - distance makes the Heart grow Fonder :-)

falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/distance-makes-the-heart-grow-fonder/
94 johnfarrel2050 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:39 am Report abuse
The requests of the UN are ignored by UK when they are opposite of its interest. Self determination can´t be apply in this case, a lot of countries in the world know that.
95 Teaboy2 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 04:54 am Report abuse
Guy s for those that do not know, Cameron actually called the National Security Council meeting after the intelligence services confrimed that argentina was planning a mock invasion of the islands, by sending fisher men to land on the falkland, south georgia and sandwich islands to raise the argentine flag. It was reported in The Sun this morning (a Major news paper in the UK and most popular) Such and act would be an act of war, if supported and arranged by Argentina governement, hence why they went over war plans and are actively now preparing for war with argentina in the event that Argentina continues with hostile acts against the islands.

Argentina you clearly forgot it was the raising of the argentine flag by a scrap metal worker on one of the islands that kicked off the 1982 war. Britain is now starting to growl back at you and we all know a lion always growls before it roars. We roared at you back in 1982 and you were sent packing, were now about to roar at you again and this time finish you off and ensure you are never a threat to the islanders and there right to self determination and to live in peace unhindered by you ever again. We Brits and islanders here have been warning you for over 2 years, but you did not listen and its clear that when you do finally start to listen it will be little to late for your precious country.
96 dreyfoss (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 05:08 am Report abuse
I once saw a copy of the british newspaper the Sun ...it's headline for that day was -
“IS JORDAN BRITAIN'S BEST SHAG”?

I had to ask a friend what it meant.
97 Teaboy2 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:10 am Report abuse
“I had to ask a friend”

Well if you had to ask a friend, then you clearly weren't much good at who wants to be a millioniare then were you :-))
98 Lord Ton (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 07:50 am Report abuse
#94 we don't know it, and we are the only one's that count!
99 shb (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 10:34 am Report abuse
Despite what the boy from Brazil thinks, I don't see the Chilean or Brazilian fleets joining the Argentinians on this one. They want good relations with us if Argentina does not.

If they were to join in, we could invoke article 5 of our NATO membership that we are facing a major armed assault on our people and economic interests. We would probably get significant help. The last time article 5 was invoked was after 911.

The navies of South America would'nt last long against those of NATO, particularly the USNs carrier battlegroups.

If NATO failed to respond - we could take unilateral action.

I would recommend a declaration of war against the hostile alliance followed by a demand for unconditional surrender. Failure to comply would result in, as Truman said, “A rain of ruin” the likes of which the world has never seen before.

Follow this up with an airburst warhead high above South America to EMP the continent, to show we mean business.

In all out war, all bets are off. I would'nt care less how many of the other side died in the firestorms below the glowering mushroom clouds. I would go for military targets, but would accept the civilian losses as par for the course.
100 stillakelper (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:44 am Report abuse
So the EU states that the Falklands are an OT of the UK, a position sustained by EU law. Presumably the Argies will be celebrating this as another major victory too ??
101 geo (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:51 am Report abuse
Ms.Catherine Ashton hoarded 100 comments here...!!
unbelievable ...!!
102 lsolde (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 12:04 pm Report abuse
Something is in the wind.
lts coming soon.
103 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 12:42 pm Report abuse
The women in the picture have the face of someone who hasn't got laid in decades. :-))
104 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 02:08 pm Report abuse
If they were to join in, we could invoke article 5 of our NATO membership that we are facing a major armed assault on our people and economic interests. We would probably get significant help. The last time article 5 was invoked was after 911.

The navies of South America would'nt last long against those of NATO, particularly the USNs carrier battlegroups.

You did not get much support last time....This time uk will get much less......Economic interest?? Where are?? 2000 people and NO OIL?? Who is going to figth for you?/ Only and Idiot brainwashed country,bankrupt,decadent can spend money and lives in there...
uk is Out...
You want to bet uk will negotiate???
105 Nightingale (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
well lets just hope the argies put up a better show tha last time... ;)
106 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
well lets just hope the argies put up a better show tha last time... ;)

AHAHAHHA It was not bad...Half of the brits fleet aither synk or damage....
Weapons...can be adquiered quickly...and this time Argentina Will accept weaponns and military from differents parts.........
Will you like to bet that sooner than later uk will open negotiations with ARgentina???
107 shb (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:00 pm Report abuse
@Malverino01

Shout as much as you like. I am merely pointing out to the likes of Brasileiro and you that you won't get any meaningful support for your fascist colonialist land grabbing from the other countries of south america.

We are'nt living in a fantasy world, war is an ugly business. Chile and Brazil won't be sending ships because they don't care as much about the issue as you. Any other nations entering the fray would be an escalation that would alow us to invoke article 5, go look it up.

As to post 106 I think you'll find that despite the RN being smaller than it was, it still maintains the same tradition of victory that protected our home from the
likes of you for hundreds of years.

Besides the Sea Harriers and missile defences of the fleet decimating the FAA, while your navy was powerless against our SSNs, remember what happened to any Argentine naval unit we detected.....

Sunk, burned or taken as prize.

We prevailed despite the fury of our enemy.

You lost.

A lot of good people died because you people believed in the fantasy of the easy conquest. If you believe it now, your country is run by even bigger fools than I could give any credit for.
108 Nightingale (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:05 pm Report abuse
its not the equipment you need to up date ,its the fighting spirit in your soldiers... then again when you fight for a cause you dont believe in , you dont give it your best effort
109 Viva Las Falklands (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:11 pm Report abuse
@106 Fighting talk mate.
Amazing that you say half the British fleet was lost or damaged yet the task force still managed to liberate the falklands. Does'nt say much for the Argentine forces.
110 Cero (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 06:45 pm Report abuse
get out of latin america. stop the british colonialism
111 Viva Las Falklands (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
@110
Oh you want to burn another Union flag.
Stop Argentine Colonialism now!
112 shb (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@110 Cero.

We'll leave after you do.

Stop Argentina's fascist irredentist colonialism.

Stop Argentinas' planned land grab.

Stop Argentina's plans to deny British people a voice in their own homeland.
113 lsolde (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
Are you ready to die for your beliefs, Cero?
You are on that road.
Why don't YOU get out of South America & go back to Spain(or where ever you came from)?
114 briton (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:13 pm Report abuse
@110 Cero.
poor cero, bribed with a dollar a day,
cheap at half the price .
115 Cero (#) Jan 21st, 2012 - 11:37 pm Report abuse
i dont't live like you said, but that's not you business. I live in Argentina, South America, you live in an stolen land. get out!!!!!!!!!!
116 briton (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:32 am Report abuse
Tut tut, criminal intent, argentina belives she is the victim,
perhaps those nuns came back and threw cero, out of the helicopter
117 Monty69 (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 12:38 am Report abuse
87 johnfarrel2050

Argentines can travel to the islands and they can live here. All they have to do is apply for a job, be appointed and get a work permit. They have exactly the same rights as any other potential immigrant.
118 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 06:35 am Report abuse
Tut tut, criminal intent, argentina belives she is the victim,
perhaps those nuns came back and threw cero, out of the helicopter
AHHAAHAH,britton..Just make sure they do not hit london...
119 briton (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
mmmm we think it would be literally imposable, to rise from the dead,
Fall from a helicopter and mysteriously drop 8,thousand miles upwards to land in London,

That’s just a bit to far fetched, [but]
Dropping and mysteriously disappearing and never seen again in Argentina
That’s possible .
120 catagom (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:09 pm Report abuse
Though I might be on the side of the UK in this matter I still have to admit that discussion along the lines of an historical argument are a waste of time in matters of international relations. They are only important for education.

What is important in this case is the reality of the here and now.

For that I would offer two glaring facts.

1. The islanders don't want to be a part of a failed Latin American country with a history of bad decisions emanating from a people addicted to conformity bordering on autism and, of course, their famous psychotic arrogance.

2. Argentina cannot back up it's claims on the island with military force.

Let's add another, really important fact.

Today one of the most important problems facing important countries, like the USA, China, India, Japan, the EU is

Resource Scarcity.

So they are all in search of

Resource Rich

parts of the world.

Argentina is one of them.

So what you have is a situation where ALL of the Big Boys are in desperate need of the fundamentals of daily living, Food, as in Fish, and Soya, Wheat, Corn, Beef, Energy, as in Oil, and, of course, Water.

Argentina has all of these things and does not manage them well, because they are, Argentinians.

Do you think the US, UK, EU, China, Japan, India, are going to let some pip-squeek piece of a nothing country stand in the way of what they ALL desperately need?

OF COURSE NOT!!!!!!

They are going to divide the spoils.

Those are the facts that spell the future of Argentina.

And that these facts are unpleasant to some Argentinians, and can't be faced by most, is a matter of complete indifference to the countries in question who need what Argentina has.

Chau y Bueno Suerte Argentina!
121 briton (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
drop her claim
be friends again with the british
and sleep soundly ,
of perhaps suffer the above, and have a nippon visit you in the night .
just a thought .
122 Pugol-H (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 05:34 pm Report abuse
@109 Viva Las Falklands

At the time Argentina claimed to have damaged or sunk virtualy every ship in the task force, some were even sunk twice.

Argentina also shot down twice as many aircraft as the British had in theatre.

When the British landed at San Carlos, Argentina claimed they were “thrown back into the sea with heavy losses”, according to the British they landed 6,000 men in a night without a single casualty.

In fact Argentina was winning the war right up untill they surrendered.

The ships used to repatriate the Argeninian troops after the surrender were all ship they claimed to have sunk.

You wonder why the British don't believe anything you say.
123 shb (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 09:41 pm Report abuse
@ cero

You are living in land stolen from indigenous peoples that Argentine forces murdered while forging your country.

GO HOME (to spain or wherever your ancestors cam from)!

Oh by the way, Cero, your colony in 1833 was evicted because WE DID NOT RECOGNISE YOUR RIGHT TO CLAIM OUR LAND. YOU TRIED TO “STEAL” THE FALKLANDS FROM US WHILE WE WERE'NT LOOKING.

I hope the big text got the message over.

You have failed before and you will fail again.

You shall not pass...............
124 tobias (#) Jan 22nd, 2012 - 11:35 pm Report abuse
@shb

How is Argentina different in your charge of “murder” against natives in it's history from:

Antigua & Barbuda, Barbados, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Curacao, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Saint Kitts & Nevis, Saint Vicent and the Grenadines, Saint Lucia, Surinam, Trinidad & Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela

how?

Thank you.
125 Monty69 (#) Jan 23rd, 2012 - 11:55 am Report abuse
124 tobias

''How is Argentina different in your charge of “murder” against natives''

No different, except that Argentina wants to turn the clock back to 1833 to right a past grievance. None of those countries is accusing anyone of 'piracy' and being 'squatters'.
The rest of the world accepts that things move on, things happened in history that wouldn't happen now, but you can't put them 'right' by persecuting remote descendents 200 years later.
All we are saying is that if you want to go back to 1833, you will find yourselves with a few issues of your own to deal with. It would be the fair thing to do.
126 lsolde (#) Jan 23rd, 2012 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
Like returning the land that they stole from Paraguay in 1871.
127 briton (#) Jan 23rd, 2012 - 06:18 pm Report abuse
Perhaps he wishes the past was today, but the problems will almost be the same,
The future is now what counts,
The islanders have stated publicly and to the UN and to the free world, that they freely wish to be British, and that really is the end of it, is it not,
They will remain British ,until they other wise change their minds,
Argentina on the other hand, can either dwell on the past, or catch up with modern democracies and understandings, and either except their decision, or take it to the ICJ ,
Anything else is purely folly on their part .
128 R Kipling (#) Jan 23rd, 2012 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
HMS Astute - Armed with 38 Tomahawk cruise missiles and spearfish torpedoes.
HMS Turbulent/Tireless/ Torbay/Trenchant/Talent/Truimph. Armed with up to 30 cruise missiles and spearfish torpedoes each
Total cruise missiles/torpedoes = 218.
Will the Falklands will remain free. You decide.
129 briton (#) Jan 23rd, 2012 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
?
130 shb (#) Jan 23rd, 2012 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
@Tobias

We are talking about 2012, not the 19th or early 20th centuries.

You are trying to do exactly the same as you accused us off. The fact that we both carried out colonialism in the past does not exonerate you from what you did then either.
131 malvinero11 (#) Jan 27th, 2012 - 02:26 am Report abuse
españolinglésfrancésAnd what if one of those oil platforms cause an ecological disaster and damage the entire coast of South America, I think Brazil would be enraged and would destroy the Falklands at gunpoint
132 XAVIERV (#) Jan 27th, 2012 - 05:05 am Report abuse
I have read many arguments of the islanders about their “rights” almost convince me that they are “original” of the islands, I almost do believe they are descendants of early Americans loa! I'll just say something, they can shout from the rooftops all you want but will never be an independent state that simply never happen. They can not say the same for British protection, they tell you to always protect but history teaches us otherwise. Hong Kong was ceded to China even against the will of its inhabitants, because the contract only corresponded to the mainland from Hong Kong and the island could remain under the British administration. But what happened? UK ceded all Hong Kong to China, even against the pleadings of its inhabitants. So guys start counting the days.
133 lsolde (#) Jan 27th, 2012 - 08:13 am Report abuse
@132 XAVIERV,
OK,
9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
8,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.
8,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,998.
8,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,997.
etc, etc, etc, ad infitum
What, Argentina has disappeared?
Oh Well.♥
134 Dot (#) Jan 27th, 2012 - 02:49 pm Report abuse
@132. i think i can speak for the falkland islanders having spent the majority of my life living in the islands. So here goes, they do want to remain british and always will, end of story. I think you will find that the early settlers were not American descendants at all, do some reading and get yourself educated, not brain washed. It's very convenient for the Argentines to harp on about their early claim and having a population in the Falklands Islands in 1833 when the British kicked them out. They were NOT Argentine because Argentina did not exist then and were not exactly what i would call a thriving community of any sort, they were an overrun Spanish penial colony, and an illegal one as far as Britain were concerned.
There are now up to 9 generations at least amongst the Falkland Islanders, i can't remember reading anything about any generations of any Spanish people or otherwise ever settling there, just convicts and associated staff. Do come back to me if you have anything else to convince me that the Falkland Islanders have no right to self determination, until then shut up! you mention people shouting from the rooftops, all the Argentines ever do is shout , like a spoilt child who is never going to get it's own way! deal with it!

LONG LIVE THE BRITISH FALKLAND ISLANDS

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