Argentina condemns the UK for its ‘bullying patriotism’ in the Malvinas dispute
Argentina condemned the announcement of the arrival of state of the art HMS Dauntless, a British warship, to the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and urged the UK to “avoid falling in the temptation of engaging in discourse that transforms patriotism in bullying patriotism.”
“The Argentine Republic rejects the British attempt to militarize a conflict that the UN has already said must be solved through bilateral negotiations between both nations,” a statement released by the Foreign Ministry read.
“Governments should try to avoid falling in the temptation to engage in discourse that transforms patriotism in bullying patriotism in order to distract public attention from policies of economic adjustment in the midst of a structural crisis and high unemployment,” it assured.
The Argentine release also regrets the fact that Prince William will be arriving in the Malvinas, (Argentine territory) as a member of the armed forces of his country dressing the uniform of “conqueror and not with the wisdom of a statesman that works for peace and dialogue among nations”.
One of the UK Royal Navy’s most powerful new warships, HMS Dauntless, is to be sent to patrol the South Atlantic including the Falkland Islands next end of March in coincidence with the beginning of the South Atlantic conflict, 2 April 1982, when Argentine marines landed in the Islands. Seventy four days later the Argentine military signed unconditional surrounded to a Task Force.
The British Ministry of Defence has said the deployment was long planned to replace frigate HMS Montrose and not a riposte to increased tensions over the sovereignty of the islands.
“The Royal Navy has had a continuous presence in the South Atlantic for many years. The deployment of HMS Dauntless to the South Atlantic has been long planned, it is entirely routine and replaces another ship on patrol,” UK's Royal Navy Senior Press Office Simon Smith stressed.
In addition to the deployment of HMS Dauntless, Jeremy Browne, the British Foreign Office minister responsible for relations with Latin America and Overseas Territories announced he will visit the islands in June.
“I’m going to coincide with the conclusion of the Falklands conflict. I will be going in June for the 30th anniversary,” he said.
“I hope Argentines will see it for what it is, which is a recognition of the valour and sacrifice of British soldiers and the Islanders in the liberation of the islands 30 years ago and also a wider commemoration of the sacrifice made more generally, including by Argentines, he said.
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Why do Argentina feel the need to look all sad and wallow in their ineptitude?
For a nation which goes to such lengths celebrating a history of mass land theft from natives and neighbors as well as exterminating native argentines, black argentines and non nationalist argentines, not to mention it demanding to be allowed to do the same to the Falkland islanders, it is amazing to see how much it whines about being the victim
It is also amusing seeing a nation so intent on subjugating, disenfranchising and eventually ethnically cleansing a peaceful island community solely to fulfill deluded nationalistic dogma, whine about being “bullied” by British patriotism
I guess at this point asking argentines to grow a spine is far, far too little, too late, so instead I will just congratulate the British government for causing so much self pitying whining from argentina with so very little effort
The Argentine government whether they call themselves a dictatorship or an “elected” democracy have proved to be untrustworthy. Any country has a right to defend itself.
A point of fact in 1982 the British armed forces were liberators. It is Argentina that is the aggressors
Prima donnas but without the opera to back them up.
Im just waiting for what they will pull out of the propaganda bag come April, but i have a feeling that even now, argentina will surprise everyone with just how bugfuck idiotic and delusional they really are
That made me laugh, they clearly do not realise that the falklands dispute is not main stream media news in the UK, with the exception of the annoucement of the HMS dauntless's maiden voyage just happening to be down the there. Where the falklands dispute was nothing more then secondary to the main news article about the dauntless being deployed. Clearly Timmerman and CFK must skip past all the articles in the times, gaurdian and telegraph papers they clearly read, that are about the economy, unemployment and eurozone crisis that appear in all british papers just about every flaming day - where as the falklands dispute has only had the occasional mention. So clearly the british government is not deflecting anything, if they were, they would surely by now be following argentinas lead in how to control the media and have it publish only what the government wants. As its funny how Argentina are embroiled in a bitter war with one media group simply because it publishes the truth about argentine economic situation to the dislike of CFK and her croonies.
Argentina should take a good hard look at itself before accusing another country of being the ones that are trying to deflect from economic issues and other national problems when its really argentina that is clearly the only ones that are doing that.
And as for calling prince william a conquistador - Well since when has the UK armed forces been a volunteer militia where they had to supply their own equipment, weapons and supplies, not to mention we are not bloody spanish or Portuguese soldiers, explorers whom were going to conquer the americas to whom the term conquistador is referred too. Argentines are themselves decendants of Conquistadors
nation of prima donnas, poseurs & real drama queens.
how does the country function?
1.An act of intimidating a weaker person to do something, especially such repeated coercion
OR
2.Persistent acts intended to make life unpleasant for another person.
In terms of the “disagreement” between the Falkland Islands and argieland, who would we consider to be constantly indulging in “intimidation”? Would we classify a country with 3,000 people as being “weaker” than one with 40 million?
And on the second definition, who do we think persistently acts to make life unpleasant for the other?
And cloaks the whole thing with a mendacious appeal to patriotism.
Or perhaps I've got it wrong and argieland isn't referring to the Falkland Islands and itself. Perhaps its referring to itself and Britain. The nation in a state of collapse. Near the end of its life.
Are we going to get an argie blogger who can tell us how it feels to be “bullied” by a nation that doesn't have to be concerned and has the muscle and the guts to back it up?
Just when you think Argentina couldnt be more hypocritical it pulls this lovely statement out!
The picture tells it all!
Son of Ghengis Khan? Attilla the Hun? Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot?
Errr, son of Diana, the patron of landmine removal ( a million miles away from an Evita/CFK icon); himself a saver of lives.
Sorry that the world finds even our most gentle and harmless individuals so threatening.
This got to be humilliating at the least for any South American nation...English (pirates) “patrolling” the South Atlantic?????....I wonder what would happen if ANY South American country dares to “patroll” the North Atlantic Ocean for one hour, what am I saying??? for a minute...English GO HOME!!!!, you don't belong here...and as per the Kelpers...they should decide if they want to join the Argentines or otherwise, follow suit and go home (England) with their kind...South America (and South Atlantic) FOR South Americans...anyways, England, don't forget that everydog has their day and yours is coming...
I think that shows the Argentine attitude clearly. A military uniform means you are a conquerer. Someone who tells you what to do and you do it.
As opposed to a liberator of bullied peoples.
You're quite free to do it. International waters.
As for 'bullying patriotism', I chuckled out loud at that. Hypocrisy at its finest.
only humiliating if your nation happens to be a delusional, self pitying crybaby like argentina.
and if a south american nation possessed any territory in the north Atlantic they would be welcome to patrol it, Britain would not mind, same way it does not mind the existence and independence of the Faroh islands of it's coast.
But then again Britain is not populated by brainwashed, drooling nationalist cowards who see a peaceful island community off it's coast as a threat to national dignity.
and seeing how argentina's entire history is one of mass land theft, campaigns of extermination and genocide against native argentines followed by the settling of white settlers on the stolen land, you would be among the first to return to Europe if “south america is for South Americans”, while the islanders, as the technical indigenous population, will happily stay on their land.
argentina's day came and went about 80 years ago, when it still had a chance to grow a spine and join the civilized world, it declined and has been a joke ever since.
International maritime law allows any countries military and non military vessels to patrol the international high seas anywhere in the world unhindered and also grants them the right to innocent passage through another countries sovreign sea i.e. within 12 nautical miles of land around another country.
We have ships from india, Asia, Us, Canada, Russia and some south american countries in the North Atlantic and north sea in the past and all are free to be there, so long as they are not acting hostile. Granted it was only recently when a russian aircraft carrier was intercepted just off scotland after going off course without informing the Britain in order to seek refuge from rough seas, though they were simply escorted and were not prevented innocent passage by HMS York.
So what you said above makes completely no sense at all because south american naval ships do and have and will continue to patrol the North Atlantic, and travel and even call in to a british port such as portsmouth. So your basically talking out of your rear again.
I know that history books in your country are shocking (I've read a few and was amazed by the lack of scholarship, inability to research, and the charged phrases that punctuate every sentence) so I suppose that it isn't surprising that you spout inane, senseless, moronic garbage at every turn. I just wish that you would at least get your facts right and then look into the matter of how you should interpret them. You state that self-determination is supported by us alone...in fact, your government has signed the treaty supporting self determination so, in effect, your government supports the rights of the islanders. You are monstrously stupid.
Jeremy. Please look up the meaning of this phrase, so that you can fully appreciate just how stupid you are. As it is written, you are predicting that “England” will triumph against adversity. That's nice of you to say, but I assume you meant the complete opposite.
Unfortunately, Argentina is a dog (and is currently led by an absolute dog) that will never have its day when it comes to the Falkland Islands.
You're quite welcome. We just recently had a Russian fleet just off our coast in international waters.
The rest of the world finds this simply normal.
The US patrols the entire earth. If every nation cried every time a US warship came within 2000 km's of it, well... You get the picture.
question of the day, in a 50 cal sniper rifle, what would you prefer? the single bolt action or the automatic option ? In other words, a Ferrari with stick or automatic drive ... :-)
The insecure warmongers are so scared of our rowing boats, so they are sending their best warship to protect this horse face clown. Millions of unemployed Brits are delighted with the idea.
In New Zealand, we'd love to have a “Falkland islands” cause so we could have a military rather than a militia and a coast guard.
I'm just waiting for these Argentine fishermen to land on the Falklands and get shot up. I heard there was a plan. I wonder what would happen if British “fishermen” landed in Argentina and raised the flag? I don't think any Argentine goons landing on the Falklands should be treated any differently.
Maybe an idea would be to have some English “soccer fans” holiday on the Falklands at the same time and accidentally be in the same place. Or maybe before the boats pass into British waters, something strange happens to them... and they sink!
Wooow Pomi....
What a perfect disguise....
Are you sure you ain't SIDE....
Chuckle chuckle
Wooow Think....
What a perfect disguise....
Are you sure you ain't THICK....
Chuckle chuckle ;-)))
Pomi/EAM? What a milico pelotudo :-))
How dare we deploy Prince William as a SAR pilot, to save lives!
LOL
@ Jeremy you can despatch warships and patrol anywhere you want, you have the same freedom of the seas that we do, as long as you don't enter another countries territorial waters without permission.
You'd probably get more curiosity than zanny chest thumping about it if you came near the UK.
Do you feel bullied by my patriotism?
Watch out, there are foreign war vessels all around your waters... Chilean, Brazilian, USN there may even be the odd Russian sub still......must be terribly intimidating.
See Zethe's comments - we often get neighbours sailing about the place.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s
Te perdono lo de pelotudo pero lo de milico nunca !!! :-)))
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A whole hour? If it were Argie, no doubt it would hit an iceberg or something. In that case we might send a rescue team if you promise not to shoot them down.
It is provocative…..
I say.
She is imagining things.
.
I respect your right to have an opinion and I will fight for everyone's right to express their opinions until the day I die. I also acknowledge that English is not your first language. Unfortunately it is clearly not your 2nd, 3rd or 4th language either.
What the hell were you trying to say? If it was actually important to you in the cold light of day please ask someone to translate for you and repost.
he will visit the illegal English colony in southern Argentina
No wonder you guys are so confused, you only come here to learn the truth,
Allow me,
There is NO English army, and has not been for over 300 years.
Their in NO English navy, and has not been for over 300 years.
There is NO English air force or English RAF .
And their never has been, ever,
There is NO English colony’s .
There is NO English empire .
Please correct your indoctrination booklets
Thank you .
.
¿How many Royal Navy destroyers remains?
@42 Enough (lurking)....
@21 and all Argentine posters “ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US”.
Queen of England is head of NWO. This is what I learn from radio and internet research.
And you Crackpot, or should I say CrackHEAD?... the phrase “every dog has their day” is used in the context that I did...NOT the other way around...but I should not be saying this to you, should I?...unless English is not your real language...but again...I better stop wasting my time with ya...
And for those who keep saying that the Argentines stole land from the natives, well...I guess the same should be said to the Americans, Canadians, and pretty much anybody else in the Americas...starting with England probably, so let's not go there 'cause it'd be an endless debate.
Bottom line is...ENGLAND, GO HOME!!! KELPERS STAY AND JOIN THE ARGENTINES OR ELSE GO HOME AND JOIN YOUR KIND.
We are home, nincompoop & no, this land is NOT yours.
So what IS your problem, fool?
We do not want to be Argentines & you are NOT getting OUR land.
Don't care whether you like it or not:-
1) You DID murder the native peoples.
2) You DID steal their land.
3) You DID try to steal OUR land, twice.
So you go home.
And you ARE wrong in using “every dog has its day”in the way you did.
Crackpot is correct & you are wrong, ldiota.
Crackpot or Crackhead - makes no difference to me, as it's only a handle. I'm disappointed though, as I was hoping you might come up with something a bit more imaginative.
The phrase you used cannot be interpreted in the context that you want, so you are just perpetuating everyone's perception of your own stupidity by trying to divert attention from a very basic mistake.
Take some more English lessons and come back when you've achieved an adequate standard.
Hang on! Diverting attention from one's own inadequacies? That sounds familiar,and certainly should do to all the Malvinistas on here.
Those with no argument always degenerate to saying something along the lines of “ENGLAND, GO HOME!!! KELPERS STAY AND JOIN THE ARGENTINES OR ELSE GO HOME AND JOIN YOUR KIND.” Pathetic really.
I say “JEREMY, GO HOME!!!. COME BACK WHEN YOU CAN THINK OF SOMETHING WORTH SAYING!!!”” (after taking those English lessons, of course).
And for you Crackpot...so you are saying that you use in a positive way “everydog has their day”...well...if you do that then...I guess it's your right to do so...but again, it has a negative connotation...and I don't need to take Engllish classes you fool, cause it's my language too...LOL..nuff said, oh sorry ENOUGH said.
ENGLISH GO HOME!!! YOU DON'T BELONG IN SOUTH AMERICA (and this includes the islands in the vecinity, for those who are five and can't make the connection of this satatement)
Yes, really, Jeremiah.
You didn't read my post too well, amigo.
l said that Argentina TRIED to steal our land twice.
Not that they actually did steal it. ln 1833 & in 1982.
And we do NOT live on Argentine soil.
Get that through your thick head. The Falklands are OURS, NOT YOURS.
l don't give a sick monkey's arse what utter rubbish you learned in school about the Falklands.
lt is NOT your land.
Don't try to get condescending with me, mr high-and-mighty indoctrinated malvinista.
l couldn't care less how many English people live in Argentina.
You don't live here
You have NO RIGHTS here.
Argentina has no rights here.
Live with it.
YOU SHOULD GO HOME AS THERE ARE NO ARGENTINES WHO CALL THEMSELVES “JEREMY”. THIS IS AN ENGLISH NAME. ANGLO ARGENTINES NEED TO BE EXTINGUISHED AS YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF BECOMING REAL ARGENTINES. YOU WILL GO HOME WITH OTHER COLONIALS NOW.
THERE WILL BE NO TRANSFER OF ANGLO ARGENTINES TO LAS MALVINAS. DO NOT DELUDE YOURSELVE. THE ISLANDS WILL BE MADE SPANISH SPEAKING AND ALL COLONIALS WILL BE RELACED BY REAL ARGENTINES, NOT FAKE ANGLOS.
YOU ARE MILKING OUR COUNTRY GO HOME.
Some of which are your own!
We only ever send two governors to Las Malvinas and a garrison of English, they receive permission for the short stay from British Embassy. In that time our country no exist. A few months of a non existent colony, governed by a German and some English does not constitute occupation.
We did no conquer Las Malvinas, it was given to us by Papal Bull 1493 - this i learn a school. This is our right by God to own Las Malvinas. Also proximity, as Las Malvinas is closer Argentina than Chile as you see on all maps.
All these arguments are superfluous, as already our government claim islands and they have Argentine administration but they are occupied by illegal pirates who have been there for almost 200 years.
Britain first claim islands in 1594 but this is date we do not use as at that time no one lived here.
Even though they have been living on islands for almost 200 years they have no right as our government say they is pirates. This i believe because i put country before human any time.
In 1970's my father responsible for helping to disappear many thousands of political traitors from this country but his work was undo by failiur of our coward military to win Las Mavlinas battle. But always remember that parents of disapeared were praising their government when we re-occupied Las Malvinas, this is proof that people believe in our country more than they care for their family. This is what make Argentine such strong country.
We can be strong again, with all our might and all our passion directed at Las Malvinas and ignore all our problem at home, we can again be strong.
Never give in to English colonials because our blood is thicker than water and the blood of Las Malvinas I believe is black gold for which many of us with right connections can get very rich from.
So not think about people, they people are nothing to us. They may be there for 200 years but they count for nothing. Only right Argentines own these islands and will populate the
Like Tim said, Suggest you read your history...British of course.
put the kettle on,
and have a nice cuppa,
ah to be british.
Bottom line is, pal that we don't have to do a thing that you tell us. And as any five year old knows. shouting at people doesn't make them do what you say.
'Go home and join your kind'????? Nice.
I am home already thanks, and a beautiful evening it is too.
Then, I would be concerned if I was you.
By the way, there is no negative connotation to the phrase “every dog has its day”, unless you meant that the UK is a dog that has had it's day. But, you didn't did you. Better book those English lessons.
“all I'm saying is that they should recognize that they live on Argentine soil...”
And why, pray tell, are you saying that? The Falkland Islanders do not live on Argentine soil, so why should they recognise it? At present, Argentina disputes the UK's sovereignty and nothing more. The day that Argentina comes up with some legally-binding judgment saying that the Islands belong to them, then that is the day that the Islanders can be asked to recognise it. Until that day, the status quo will prevail, the UK flag will continue to fly over the Islands, and you have no right to make such a suggestion. Full stop.
may one suggest, that all 3 of you go home, and think again on who you are .
That Falklanders are home and don't want to leave.
Do you want to try and remove them by force?
As I have asked other fascists like you before - would you have the stomach to drag them from their homes yourself, or would you let someone else do you dirty work for you, while you gloat over the tv images?
By your line of logic you should be evicting anybody in Argentina from the UK (not to be confused with England which is only a part of it) who is on business or has settled there recently. My what a clever move that would be.
If you want to remove those who have settled in South America since 1833 you would be talking about many thousands of people.......
The soil of the Falklands belongs to the Falklanders and they have elected to have the Union Flag fly over it.
The only place where the Flag of your lot flies over it is in your dreams, which seem to consist of a victorious invasion/annexation followed by ethnic cleansing to allow “true argentinians” to claim their lebensraum.
No negotiation with fascist colonialism.
No surrender.
If you drag the falklanders out, you'll have to remove the garrison feet first. Good luck with that as a plan, I bet they'd have something to say about it, along the lines of “eat hot lead Argie....” you can imagine the rest.
l think Prince William is quite handsome.
When has looks got anything to do the way the man will do his job?
I think our “British Kirchnerist” friend may have had one too many.
youtu.be/DNdeLiV9Jz8
Many other countries with a monarchy and or a president, would disagree with you on that remark, it does not matter who your leader is,, either they are good or they are not,
You just cannot say, they your dictatorship is better than our monarchy, even through we are run by parliament, instigated by a prime Minster.
We do ok, just as good as some, and not as bad as others,
Just be grateful you don’t live in north Korea,
Where they have the greatest god in the world, [according to them]
You certainly are a sorely needed fresh breath of air on this pages, mate.
Typical Argentinian.
Can't take a joke, easy to provoke and tells lies.
Keep the faith - only 88 years to go.
fabreeze perhaps lol.
Given the choice between being diplomacy and child like spats of anger and lies, they choose child like spats of anger and lies.
Argentina has never recovered from being a wannabe be Axis power in the 1930's. Argentina's version of fascism (like that of Spain's) remained undefeated by WW2 Allied powers. It hadn't even had to fight a real civil war to maintain power, just murder 50,000-100,000 of its own unarmed political activists and we all know how easy that was for their brave and heroic military men, like their hero Commander Astiz.
It took the Falklands War to shake the Argentines into some semblance of reality. Remove their military government and see the Americans as something other than a benevolent uncle, rather more like a the uncle you kept your children away from, you know the one in the old mack who always had his hands in his pockets and a grimace on his lips.
But within a few short years a girl came alone, a wannabe Eva Peron and took them all the way back to year zero! And the Argentine people gave up their collective memory and switched back to servile child.
In the West it's very difficult to understand how the average Argentine thinks. We have to imagine how our own per-adolescent children think and we can then get into their mindset. Give them a box of toy soldiers & some flags to play with and they are as happy as pie, tell them that they can't own Tracey Island though and they will cry their eyes out.
At school, the teachers would always tell them “Tracey Island” was their's. Even though the reality was, it wasn't!
Your name reminds the old ladies that drink tea or mate in Argentina. around 5'oclock. Anyway, your chronic non-sense statements are not only based on years lack of expousure but also of reading Royal family printed materials since you were 2 of age. By this age of yours, it takes a great courage to open your mind and see how the rest of the world perceives UK. I am not asking to change. JUST LISTEN OTHERS. You may enrich your life with good education.
You said that because UK discover Malvinas belong to UK. Let me know when UK discover another island in the South. If it moves it may be an iceberg. The best idea it is to drag it as close as Peninsula de Gibraltad( DID UK DISCOVER IT TOO ??)
The UK discovered the islands in 1690 historical fact, we settled them original in 1765, we left leaving a plague asserting our claim to sovereignty a few years later, we never relinquished our claim, unlike france and spain did. Even when in 1833 the united provinces tried to set up a penal colony, we were still holder of the sovereingty that we had never relinquished hence why were expelled the penal colony from the islands in 1833 and reasserted out claim.
You make it sound like i speak indoctrinated nonense, well clearly your an argentine, and we all know that argentine schools teach their children that the falklands are argentine when they are not and that the islanders are argentine when they are not. Hell how can they be argentine when the islanders themselves say they are british, whos telling the truth? Clearly its the islanders as why would they lie about who they are!
Also for your information i read little royal printed information other that the news aricles about them.
So my new found enemy, the only person specking nonsense out of me and you is clearly you. you indoctrinated argentina twat face. P.s. by the way, you insult me i will flaming insult you back twice as much. Don't like then don't go throwing insults around when you can not take being insulted back.
insulting him, makes you look childish, teaboy2 is worth 10 of you indocrintated fellows,
bullies and userpers you are, and will always be.
#76 What I said on the Iron Lady thread...
“It has been said that there is nothing more uncommon than common sense.”
:-)
Common sense is the less common of the senses ..... get it right Mr Perfect :-))
I hope you updated the picture of the little prince you had under your pillows.
Briton, Briton, Briton. You said there is not British Empire. Do you know what does means UK? Are British Briton. Do you Know the meaning about Kingdom?
Any elementary book will have this meaning
Teaboy,
You stated
“Well since when has the UK armed forces been a volunteer militia where they had to supply their own equipment, weapons and supplies”, What year do you live in. Come to DC and take a walk inside of the White House where the Lobby representatives are waiting for a war. Remember the year 2012? This is IT.
“ Argentines are themselves decendants of Conquistadors ?” We do not want to be Conquistadores. It is living the 1700's Do you understand WHY the UN resolution called
D-E-S-C-O-L-O-N-I-Z-A-T-I-O-N?
Question for Your Quiz:
What Country is directly connected with this word ?
a) GUATEMALA
b) Bolivia
c) UK
TAKE YOUR TIME. THE QUIZ CONTEMPLATES YOUR IQ LEVEL.
I hope you updated the picture of the little prince you had under your pillows., Briton. You said there is not British Empire. Do you know what does means UK? Are British Briton. Do you Know the meaning about Kingdom?
Any elementary book will have this meaning
Allow me to update you silly boy, trying to convince the indoctrinated,
THERE IS no British empire, the UK is the united kingdom of great Britain,
There is no empire, THERE IS NO EMPIRE, hello anyone in there,
You are not the first or the last argie to be totally confused,
Iwill repeat it one more time, for all you school children,
THERE IS NO BRITISH EMPIRE,
But Argentina wants a empire,//that is what is confusing you,
84 you are not first
Argentines are themselves descendants of Conquistadors
[And just as bad, are you not///
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
84 you are not first
What Country is directly connected with this word ?
a) GUATEMALA
b) Bolivia
c) UK
TAKE YOUR TIME. THE QUIZ CONTEMPLATES YOUR IQ LEVEL.
[NONE] but Bolivia does have the letter [o] in it,
Silly boy, and you IQ was , what,??
.
Condescending little clot, aren't you?
lts your silly country that wants to be an empire.
You've already got colonies in Patagonia & in the land that you stole from Paraguay.
Now, you greedy little articles want the Falklands & British Antarctic Territories too!
Argentina is the country that should be decolonised.
@80 British_Kirchnerist,
lf you think that sr Think's opinion is a voice of sense then you are definitely beyond help. The man is a prize turnip.
He has this ridiculous idea that OUR land belongs to Argentina, when it clearly doesn't.
Furthermore he wants to turn us out of our homes.
No mate, hitch your wagon to another horse, that one is nearly senile.♥♥
If you are British - you're a disgrace. Hundreds of thousands of British servicemen died so that you could sell your own kind down the river into occupation and/or eviction to make you feel better about yourself.
Here is something for you to “think” about, the end result of siding with people like the Argentinians, embodied by your best mate of the same name.
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
If it can happen to the Falklanders because we are weak, it can happen to you....
Oh, by the way, I really don't like CFK and I don't have to. I regard her as what she is: a populist, rabble rousing, vain, glory seeker who has the desire to crush us, looking to book her place in history by trampling over a small British community.
She is an enemy of Britain and of peace.
She would cold bloodily invade the place in a moment if she thought she would get away with it.
Thank you for your offer but l'm afraid that l cannot just at this time.
Some other time. Will contact you when we can meet. Regards.
To be honest I'm more interested in her leftist economic policies, which lifted Argentina out of economic disaster quicker and better than Cameron's failed cuts (in Britain there are people getting their homes repossesed, ie being kicked out of their homes, by the banks!) Until recently I didn't know much about the Falklands and didn't have much of an opinion on it, except that it was a shame Thatcher won the '83 election and kept wrecking the country on the basis of the war (as opposed to 1945 when Churchill, who I salute for his heroic leadership in World War 2, was nonetheless replaced by a Labour government more attuned to our domestic needs).
But the idea that 3,000 people can hold on to massive reserves of oil, or siphon them to a homeland on the other side of the Atlantic, at the cost of 40 million people whose coastal waters the oil is under, is simply iniquitous. I don't know what outcome could result from talks, whether there could be a Hong Kong style handover with a similar “one country, two systems” formula, dual nationality (including upgrading of the Islanders to full british citizens, something Thatcher took away I think) or even Argentine recognition of the Islanders' Britishness/independence in return for rights to the oil and fish.
But the running sore isn't going to be healed when theres no talking at all, on the other hand its in the interests of British big business to maintain a lockdown and take the oil as a fait accoompli.
Thats why I'm backing Cristina on this, and thats why looking past the propaganda the Islanders have nothing to fear from this human rights conscious President.
If you like CFK and her policies so much - emigrate and live in Argentina. Otherwise why don't you advocate your area becoming part of a quite hostile nearby country, say Russia or North Korea, which is pretty left wing if further away.
I bet you would'nt like your home being claimed by the Argentinians and other people advocating that you lose your right to self determination.
The idea that Thatcher won in 1983 solely based on the Falklands is a fallacy, Labour was simply unelectable for a number of reasons, depite Thatchers unpopularity.
The Argentinians could have shared the oil wealth, but the very people you lionise tore up the agreements. Do you want to live in a country poorer for not developing those oil resources? would you really rather give them away to a hostile, aggressive nation?
Rewarding aggression never goes well, you end up becoming a target for everyone with an axe to grind because they smell weakness.
Thats why I'm backing Isolde and everyone who lives in the Falklands, and why I'm backing my country against Argentina. Those people are our enemies.
argentina has its own oil and resourses,
argentina has no rights to anything from the isladers,
you are of course entitles to your beliefs,, and you can want for ever, but they are not your, never have been and never will be, its that simple .
The oil that you want to just give away does not lie under Argentina's waters. lt belongs to the Falklands.
We had a deal that would have been lucrative to them had oil been found(and it has)but they tore it up in spite because they couldn't take over the Falklands. Rather childish, don't you think?
Now, however you think that we cut them in on the deal?
You don't sell your car because you think its a clunker, then when the new owner makes it like new, you want it back? Get real!
They do have some oil in their 200 mile territorial waters.
OK, thats theirs, we don't want it.
You say that you don't advocate kicking anyone out of their homes.
That is what they are going to do if they ever take over & we refuse to become Argentines.
They have done it already in their brief foray in 1982.
They also murdered 30,000 of their own people.
What makes you think that they wouldn't do it here if the conditions were right?
What if Britain was distracted by a war in Europe & couldn't come to our aid? They would invade again before you could say “Jack Robinson”
Despite all that they were taught at school, they DON'T own the Falklands & never did.
They have NO RIGHTS HERE.
So, the oil is ALL ours & there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS ON SOVEREIGNTY♥
If Argentina was a South Korea of enterprise and 'get up and go', countries within the region would WANT to get involved with her.
Unfortunately, she is a head-case, and only other head-cases associate. Chavez being the greatest of these. Others will exploit the head-case(s) for their own ends, but not out of friendship of because Argentina is conspicuously successful at what she does.
Where is the advantage for TFI in associating with a AR/VE pair of drunks propping up a lamp-post.
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