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Argentina condemns the UK for its ‘bullying patriotism’ in the Malvinas dispute
Argentina condemned the announcement of the arrival of state of the art HMS Dauntless, a British warship, to the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and urged the UK to “avoid falling in the temptation of engaging in discourse that transforms patriotism in bullying patriotism.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf one adopted a discourse based analysis when studying the communications of the Argentine foreign ministry then we could conclude that Argentina is suffering from self-pity.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do Argentina feel the need to look all sad and wallow in their ineptitude?
And argentina once again proves how much of a spineless crybaby it is.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0For a nation which goes to such lengths celebrating a history of mass land theft from natives and neighbors as well as exterminating native argentines, black argentines and non nationalist argentines, not to mention it demanding to be allowed to do the same to the Falkland islanders, it is amazing to see how much it whines about being the victim
It is also amusing seeing a nation so intent on subjugating, disenfranchising and eventually ethnically cleansing a peaceful island community solely to fulfill deluded nationalistic dogma, whine about being “bullied” by British patriotism
I guess at this point asking argentines to grow a spine is far, far too little, too late, so instead I will just congratulate the British government for causing so much self pitying whining from argentina with so very little effort
Talk about “the pot calling the kettle black”.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine government whether they call themselves a dictatorship or an “elected” democracy have proved to be untrustworthy. Any country has a right to defend itself.
A point of fact in 1982 the British armed forces were liberators. It is Argentina that is the aggressors
It is truly entertaining to watch Argentine go through these charades.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Prima donnas but without the opera to back them up.
@4
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Im just waiting for what they will pull out of the propaganda bag come April, but i have a feeling that even now, argentina will surprise everyone with just how bugfuck idiotic and delusional they really are
Well, well, well are we surprised at the stupid Argies they have been the bullies towards us all along .........sending thousands to invade us in 1982 when we had only a thousand people living here and a bunch of 30 brave marines to defend us. Stopping our vessel's going into SA ports.........sorry but whom are the BIG BAD SMELLY BULLIES get real, amazing how they change the story's to suit them selves GET F................G real you bunch of raving lunatics.................come on down William the CONQ...........
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Governments should try to avoid falling in the temptation to engage in discourse that transforms patriotism in bullying patriotism in order to distract public attention from policies of economic adjustment in the midst of a structural crisis and high unemployment,” it assured.”
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0That made me laugh, they clearly do not realise that the falklands dispute is not main stream media news in the UK, with the exception of the annoucement of the HMS dauntless's maiden voyage just happening to be down the there. Where the falklands dispute was nothing more then secondary to the main news article about the dauntless being deployed. Clearly Timmerman and CFK must skip past all the articles in the times, gaurdian and telegraph papers they clearly read, that are about the economy, unemployment and eurozone crisis that appear in all british papers just about every flaming day - where as the falklands dispute has only had the occasional mention. So clearly the british government is not deflecting anything, if they were, they would surely by now be following argentinas lead in how to control the media and have it publish only what the government wants. As its funny how Argentina are embroiled in a bitter war with one media group simply because it publishes the truth about argentine economic situation to the dislike of CFK and her croonies.
Argentina should take a good hard look at itself before accusing another country of being the ones that are trying to deflect from economic issues and other national problems when its really argentina that is clearly the only ones that are doing that.
And as for calling prince william a conquistador - Well since when has the UK armed forces been a volunteer militia where they had to supply their own equipment, weapons and supplies, not to mention we are not bloody spanish or Portuguese soldiers, explorers whom were going to conquer the americas to whom the term conquistador is referred too. Argentines are themselves decendants of Conquistadors
One boat and a gunless Prince and Argentina's knees are trembling ! Ha ha ha
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Argentine Republic rejects the British attempt to militarize a conflict”...my history isn't great but I almost spat my coffee out over that one. What do you call issuing a continental blockade against a small peacful island people if not bullying of the most obvious, and collonial, kind? Do you really think that you can do this and not expect a bit of tit for tat gunboat diplomacy? Also, we are sending an heir to the throne down there, of course we are going to protect him with Argentina's history of violence towards the islanders.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina,
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0nation of prima donnas, poseurs & real drama queens.
how does the country function?
According to a dictionary the term “bullying” means
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 01.An act of intimidating a weaker person to do something, especially such repeated coercion
OR
2.Persistent acts intended to make life unpleasant for another person.
In terms of the “disagreement” between the Falkland Islands and argieland, who would we consider to be constantly indulging in “intimidation”? Would we classify a country with 3,000 people as being “weaker” than one with 40 million?
And on the second definition, who do we think persistently acts to make life unpleasant for the other?
And cloaks the whole thing with a mendacious appeal to patriotism.
Or perhaps I've got it wrong and argieland isn't referring to the Falkland Islands and itself. Perhaps its referring to itself and Britain. The nation in a state of collapse. Near the end of its life.
Are we going to get an argie blogger who can tell us how it feels to be “bullied” by a nation that doesn't have to be concerned and has the muscle and the guts to back it up?
I see what Argentina has done there...they have written down their policy and strategy regarding the Falklands and have accused Britain of implementing it!
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just when you think Argentina couldnt be more hypocritical it pulls this lovely statement out!
MY GOD!
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The picture tells it all!
Son of Ghengis Khan? Attilla the Hun? Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot?
Errr, son of Diana, the patron of landmine removal ( a million miles away from an Evita/CFK icon); himself a saver of lives.
Sorry that the world finds even our most gentle and harmless individuals so threatening.
LOL @13.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Royal Navy has had a continuous presence in the South Atlantic for many years. The deployment of HMS Dauntless to the South Atlantic has been long planned, it is entirely routine and replaces another ship on patrol,” UK's Royal Navy Senior Press Office Simon Smith stressed.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This got to be humilliating at the least for any South American nation...English (pirates) “patrolling” the South Atlantic?????....I wonder what would happen if ANY South American country dares to “patroll” the North Atlantic Ocean for one hour, what am I saying??? for a minute...English GO HOME!!!!, you don't belong here...and as per the Kelpers...they should decide if they want to join the Argentines or otherwise, follow suit and go home (England) with their kind...South America (and South Atlantic) FOR South Americans...anyways, England, don't forget that everydog has their day and yours is coming...
The Argentine release also regrets the fact that Prince William will be arriving in the Malvinas, (Argentine territory) as a member of the armed forces of his country dressing the uniform of “conqueror and not with the wisdom of a statesman that works for peace and dialogue among nations”.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that shows the Argentine attitude clearly. A military uniform means you are a conquerer. Someone who tells you what to do and you do it.
As opposed to a liberator of bullied peoples.
“I wonder what would happen if ANY South American country dares to “patroll” the North Atlantic Ocean for one hour”
Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're quite free to do it. International waters.
As for 'bullying patriotism', I chuckled out loud at that. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@Jeremy
Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0only humiliating if your nation happens to be a delusional, self pitying crybaby like argentina.
and if a south american nation possessed any territory in the north Atlantic they would be welcome to patrol it, Britain would not mind, same way it does not mind the existence and independence of the Faroh islands of it's coast.
But then again Britain is not populated by brainwashed, drooling nationalist cowards who see a peaceful island community off it's coast as a threat to national dignity.
and seeing how argentina's entire history is one of mass land theft, campaigns of extermination and genocide against native argentines followed by the settling of white settlers on the stolen land, you would be among the first to return to Europe if “south america is for South Americans”, while the islanders, as the technical indigenous population, will happily stay on their land.
argentina's day came and went about 80 years ago, when it still had a chance to grow a spine and join the civilized world, it declined and has been a joke ever since.
@jeremy
Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0International maritime law allows any countries military and non military vessels to patrol the international high seas anywhere in the world unhindered and also grants them the right to innocent passage through another countries sovreign sea i.e. within 12 nautical miles of land around another country.
We have ships from india, Asia, Us, Canada, Russia and some south american countries in the North Atlantic and north sea in the past and all are free to be there, so long as they are not acting hostile. Granted it was only recently when a russian aircraft carrier was intercepted just off scotland after going off course without informing the Britain in order to seek refuge from rough seas, though they were simply escorted and were not prevented innocent passage by HMS York.
So what you said above makes completely no sense at all because south american naval ships do and have and will continue to patrol the North Atlantic, and travel and even call in to a british port such as portsmouth. So your basically talking out of your rear again.
A search and rescue pilot is a “conqueror”. What a bunch of knobheads.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas are Argentine, not between in the mind of nobody that a country to 7mil km owner wants to believe of malvinas! It of the self-determination is alone supported by you, the inhabitants of malvinas are british placed by you to colonize! .. Argentine in all his fullness and forever it was fighting for what us belongs historically, read the books! Gentlemen Argentine for leg of the Spanish crown, it has rights on the islands, and all his extension.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 kamigote – No. YOU go and read the history books and you'll find that you signed a treaty stating that it had no disputes with the British Crown (this covered the Falklands) a long time ago. It was only when you went on your genocidal rampage down south to kill off the natives did you decided that, as the islands were now considerably closer to your border, you wanted them.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know that history books in your country are shocking (I've read a few and was amazed by the lack of scholarship, inability to research, and the charged phrases that punctuate every sentence) so I suppose that it isn't surprising that you spout inane, senseless, moronic garbage at every turn. I just wish that you would at least get your facts right and then look into the matter of how you should interpret them. You state that self-determination is supported by us alone...in fact, your government has signed the treaty supporting self determination so, in effect, your government supports the rights of the islanders. You are monstrously stupid.
@15 Jeremy: “anyways, England, don't forget that every dog has their day and yours is coming..”
Feb 01st, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jeremy. Please look up the meaning of this phrase, so that you can fully appreciate just how stupid you are. As it is written, you are predicting that “England” will triumph against adversity. That's nice of you to say, but I assume you meant the complete opposite.
Unfortunately, Argentina is a dog (and is currently led by an absolute dog) that will never have its day when it comes to the Falkland Islands.
“dares to “patroll” the North Atlantic Ocean for one hour, what am I saying???”
Feb 01st, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're quite welcome. We just recently had a Russian fleet just off our coast in international waters.
The rest of the world finds this simply normal.
The US patrols the entire earth. If every nation cried every time a US warship came within 2000 km's of it, well... You get the picture.
Z,
Feb 01st, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0question of the day, in a 50 cal sniper rifle, what would you prefer? the single bolt action or the automatic option ? In other words, a Ferrari with stick or automatic drive ... :-)
William the Conqueror is back, he will visit the illegal English colony in southern Argentina.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The insecure warmongers are so scared of our rowing boats, so they are sending their best warship to protect this horse face clown. Millions of unemployed Brits are delighted with the idea.
Without Argentine saber rattling (that's about all they have Sabers!) the British defence cuts would have been far worse.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In New Zealand, we'd love to have a “Falkland islands” cause so we could have a military rather than a militia and a coast guard.
I'm just waiting for these Argentine fishermen to land on the Falklands and get shot up. I heard there was a plan. I wonder what would happen if British “fishermen” landed in Argentina and raised the flag? I don't think any Argentine goons landing on the Falklands should be treated any differently.
Maybe an idea would be to have some English “soccer fans” holiday on the Falklands at the same time and accidentally be in the same place. Or maybe before the boats pass into British waters, something strange happens to them... and they sink!
It's time that Current Argentine Government Grow up in true sincere and hororable HONESTY, and stop to try to be an other POLICE Country State, pushed by IDOLATRIES from using its Own Population, in the views to gain FALSE points to wrong policies and old style Peronist corrupted policies, which seems to be the cord issue to keep their strengh in Power. Learn and Read HISTORY and do not LIE to world PARTNERS in the Issue of the FALKLAND Islands, neither via the UN try to burst LEWDNESS, SORCERIES, CONTENTIONS, WRATH and false PRIDES in a true DRUNKNESS of NO POWER, even supported by Leftist Minded and REVELRIES from Countries which do not have Traditions or Reputations, to Teach the Argentine People, hard workers, but twisted by the Popular CONTROVERSIAL Regimes, NO DEMOCRATCITS in any INSTANCES on our EARTH. The FLAKLAND ISLANDS Are Belongs to the the Rights and to THE Commonwealth England and the SELF DETERMINATION of the OWN PEOPLE DETERMINATION under the United Nations Chart. GOD BLESS THE FLAKLAND ISLANDS Determinations and GOD BLESS OUR QUEEN OF ENGLAND. AMÉN..!
Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(25) Scipio Africanus
Feb 01st, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wooow Pomi....
What a perfect disguise....
Are you sure you ain't SIDE....
Chuckle chuckle
@29 Think
Feb 01st, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wooow Think....
What a perfect disguise....
Are you sure you ain't THICK....
Chuckle chuckle ;-)))
(25) Scipio Africanus?
Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pomi/EAM? What a milico pelotudo :-))
jajajajajaja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How dare we patrol the Falkllands to deter Argentine aggression!
Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How dare we deploy Prince William as a SAR pilot, to save lives!
LOL
@ Jeremy you can despatch warships and patrol anywhere you want, you have the same freedom of the seas that we do, as long as you don't enter another countries territorial waters without permission.
You'd probably get more curiosity than zanny chest thumping about it if you came near the UK.
Do you feel bullied by my patriotism?
Watch out, there are foreign war vessels all around your waters... Chilean, Brazilian, USN there may even be the odd Russian sub still......must be terribly intimidating.
See Zethe's comments - we often get neighbours sailing about the place.....
32 Simio Tejanus(Deben ser los gorilas, deben ser... ) :-)))
Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s
@34
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Te perdono lo de pelotudo pero lo de milico nunca !!! :-)))
:-))
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I wonder what would happen if ANY South American country dares to “patroll” the North Atlantic Ocean for one hour”
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0--------------------
A whole hour? If it were Argie, no doubt it would hit an iceberg or something. In that case we might send a rescue team if you promise not to shoot them down.
She says,
Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is provocative…..
I say.
She is imagining things.
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21 Kamigote
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I respect your right to have an opinion and I will fight for everyone's right to express their opinions until the day I die. I also acknowledge that English is not your first language. Unfortunately it is clearly not your 2nd, 3rd or 4th language either.
What the hell were you trying to say? If it was actually important to you in the cold light of day please ask someone to translate for you and repost.
. Marcos Alejandro
Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he will visit the illegal English colony in southern Argentina
No wonder you guys are so confused, you only come here to learn the truth,
Allow me,
There is NO English army, and has not been for over 300 years.
Their in NO English navy, and has not been for over 300 years.
There is NO English air force or English RAF .
And their never has been, ever,
There is NO English colony’s .
There is NO English empire .
Please correct your indoctrination booklets
Thank you .
.
Wow, Daring in The Gulf, Dauntless in The Big South, Diamond in trials...
Feb 01st, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0¿How many Royal Navy destroyers remains?
@ 41 And how many Brit subs in the South Atlantic?
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 Enough.
Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 Enough (lurking)....
@21 and all Argentine posters “ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US”.
its time enoughof english or britain times have change the world has have enough of your lies and fraud. go home aND STAY HOME SOUTH AMERICA DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is Prince of Darkness part of family who rule world, even Obama is related to them, it is sick to think that is truth.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Queen of England is head of NWO. This is what I learn from radio and internet research.
@45 I would loved to know what pills or wacky backy the radio presenter or writers of the internet conspiracy theory website where you did your research were on. Then i can get some to give to my girlfirend and maybe for once she will agree with me that shopping is a chore and not a flaming holiday.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I posted here, I was expecting some comments about what I said, but definitely not the kind of idiotic ones that I saw...Of course I know that in the South Atlantic there are interantional water areas, but what I was referring to (as if it's needed to clarify) was the areas surrouding the Malvinas and other Islands in dispute...So yes, I still say and very LOUD, ENGLISH (PIRATES) GO HOME!!! YOU DON'T BELONG HERE!!!! and as per patrolling the North Atlantic it was more a of a figurative comparison than anything else, but of course now I know better...some ppl here are not able to understand such a thing, so next time I better keep everything literal, so the Teaboys and Braedons of the world will be able to comprenhend...
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you Crackpot, or should I say CrackHEAD?... the phrase “every dog has their day” is used in the context that I did...NOT the other way around...but I should not be saying this to you, should I?...unless English is not your real language...but again...I better stop wasting my time with ya...
And for those who keep saying that the Argentines stole land from the natives, well...I guess the same should be said to the Americans, Canadians, and pretty much anybody else in the Americas...starting with England probably, so let's not go there 'cause it'd be an endless debate.
Bottom line is...ENGLAND, GO HOME!!! KELPERS STAY AND JOIN THE ARGENTINES OR ELSE GO HOME AND JOIN YOUR KIND.
@47 Jeremy,
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are home, nincompoop & no, this land is NOT yours.
So what IS your problem, fool?
We do not want to be Argentines & you are NOT getting OUR land.
Don't care whether you like it or not:-
1) You DID murder the native peoples.
2) You DID steal their land.
3) You DID try to steal OUR land, twice.
So you go home.
And you ARE wrong in using “every dog has its day”in the way you did.
Crackpot is correct & you are wrong, ldiota.
@47 Jeremy
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Crackpot or Crackhead - makes no difference to me, as it's only a handle. I'm disappointed though, as I was hoping you might come up with something a bit more imaginative.
The phrase you used cannot be interpreted in the context that you want, so you are just perpetuating everyone's perception of your own stupidity by trying to divert attention from a very basic mistake.
Take some more English lessons and come back when you've achieved an adequate standard.
Hang on! Diverting attention from one's own inadequacies? That sounds familiar,and certainly should do to all the Malvinistas on here.
Those with no argument always degenerate to saying something along the lines of “ENGLAND, GO HOME!!! KELPERS STAY AND JOIN THE ARGENTINES OR ELSE GO HOME AND JOIN YOUR KIND.” Pathetic really.
I say “JEREMY, GO HOME!!!. COME BACK WHEN YOU CAN THINK OF SOMETHING WORTH SAYING!!!”” (after taking those English lessons, of course).
Wow...Isolde, really? Argentina stole YOUR land twice?...so, what do you call to what the pirates (ENGLISH) did in 1833?...or I need to explain that to y0u?... Nobody is saying that the Kelpers should become Argentines, all I'm saying is that they should recognize that they live on Argentine soil...just as thousands of other English citizens who live in other areas of Argentina (More than 3000 in case you didn't know)...but again...in this forum it seem that many ppl can't understand a thing unless it's explained and over-explained to them...oh well...
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0And for you Crackpot...so you are saying that you use in a positive way “everydog has their day”...well...if you do that then...I guess it's your right to do so...but again, it has a negative connotation...and I don't need to take Engllish classes you fool, cause it's my language too...LOL..nuff said, oh sorry ENOUGH said.
ENGLISH GO HOME!!! YOU DON'T BELONG IN SOUTH AMERICA (and this includes the islands in the vecinity, for those who are five and can't make the connection of this satatement)
We were first in the falklands in 1765 and discovered them originally in 1690, we still had an existing sovereignty over the islands in 1833 when it was you that invaded our sovereignty when you attempted to set up a penal colony, we quite righty removed it but we did so peacefully and offered to allow the civilians to stay if they so wished. So 1833 was when you actually first invaded out sovereignty territory. Saying it was not ours in 1833 just because we had no settlement their would be like saying all the uninhabited islands around the UK coast are not ours. Your historic claim is based on nothing but your illegal attempt to estabish a penal colony on in what was british sovereign territory at the time. By that logic of yours, i could claim possession of your grand mothers grave, on the basis your not living on it.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@50 Jeremy,
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, really, Jeremiah.
You didn't read my post too well, amigo.
l said that Argentina TRIED to steal our land twice.
Not that they actually did steal it. ln 1833 & in 1982.
And we do NOT live on Argentine soil.
Get that through your thick head. The Falklands are OURS, NOT YOURS.
l don't give a sick monkey's arse what utter rubbish you learned in school about the Falklands.
lt is NOT your land.
Don't try to get condescending with me, mr high-and-mighty indoctrinated malvinista.
l couldn't care less how many English people live in Argentina.
You don't live here
You have NO RIGHTS here.
Argentina has no rights here.
Live with it.
@ 47 Jeremy
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU SHOULD GO HOME AS THERE ARE NO ARGENTINES WHO CALL THEMSELVES “JEREMY”. THIS IS AN ENGLISH NAME. ANGLO ARGENTINES NEED TO BE EXTINGUISHED AS YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF BECOMING REAL ARGENTINES. YOU WILL GO HOME WITH OTHER COLONIALS NOW.
THERE WILL BE NO TRANSFER OF ANGLO ARGENTINES TO LAS MALVINAS. DO NOT DELUDE YOURSELVE. THE ISLANDS WILL BE MADE SPANISH SPEAKING AND ALL COLONIALS WILL BE RELACED BY REAL ARGENTINES, NOT FAKE ANGLOS.
YOU ARE MILKING OUR COUNTRY GO HOME.
When I posted here, I was expecting some comments about what I said, but definitely not the kind of idiotic ones that I saw..
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some of which are your own!
@54 Valle Ricardo
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We only ever send two governors to Las Malvinas and a garrison of English, they receive permission for the short stay from British Embassy. In that time our country no exist. A few months of a non existent colony, governed by a German and some English does not constitute occupation.
We did no conquer Las Malvinas, it was given to us by Papal Bull 1493 - this i learn a school. This is our right by God to own Las Malvinas. Also proximity, as Las Malvinas is closer Argentina than Chile as you see on all maps.
All these arguments are superfluous, as already our government claim islands and they have Argentine administration but they are occupied by illegal pirates who have been there for almost 200 years.
Britain first claim islands in 1594 but this is date we do not use as at that time no one lived here.
Even though they have been living on islands for almost 200 years they have no right as our government say they is pirates. This i believe because i put country before human any time.
In 1970's my father responsible for helping to disappear many thousands of political traitors from this country but his work was undo by failiur of our coward military to win Las Mavlinas battle. But always remember that parents of disapeared were praising their government when we re-occupied Las Malvinas, this is proof that people believe in our country more than they care for their family. This is what make Argentine such strong country.
We can be strong again, with all our might and all our passion directed at Las Malvinas and ignore all our problem at home, we can again be strong.
Never give in to English colonials because our blood is thicker than water and the blood of Las Malvinas I believe is black gold for which many of us with right connections can get very rich from.
So not think about people, they people are nothing to us. They may be there for 200 years but they count for nothing. Only right Argentines own these islands and will populate the
53 Filippo (#) Suggest you read your history (or what hasn't been buried by the Argentines as it doesn't suit them). Who put Argentina on the map and who caused Argentina to become one of the wealthiest nations in the world beginning of the 20th Century??? It certainly wasn't the Spaniards nor the Italians. As for the Treaty of Tordecillas you can stuff that where the monkey put its nuts!!! Not all the world is Papist and it is most certainly not recognised by non-Papists nor under International Law.
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philip,
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like Tim said, Suggest you read your history...British of course.
So the claim is based on 1493 'Papal Bull' is that the same as 'Argentine Bull' and does it all smell the same ?
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why dont everybody go home,
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0put the kettle on,
and have a nice cuppa,
ah to be british.
50 Jeremy
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bottom line is, pal that we don't have to do a thing that you tell us. And as any five year old knows. shouting at people doesn't make them do what you say.
'Go home and join your kind'????? Nice.
I am home already thanks, and a beautiful evening it is too.
50 Jeremy...Jezzer...Jez...Jiz...“I don't need to take Engllish classes you fool, cause it's my language too..”
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then, I would be concerned if I was you.
By the way, there is no negative connotation to the phrase “every dog has its day”, unless you meant that the UK is a dog that has had it's day. But, you didn't did you. Better book those English lessons.
“all I'm saying is that they should recognize that they live on Argentine soil...”
And why, pray tell, are you saying that? The Falkland Islanders do not live on Argentine soil, so why should they recognise it? At present, Argentina disputes the UK's sovereignty and nothing more. The day that Argentina comes up with some legally-binding judgment saying that the Islands belong to them, then that is the day that the Islanders can be asked to recognise it. Until that day, the status quo will prevail, the UK flag will continue to fly over the Islands, and you have no right to make such a suggestion. Full stop.
Jeremy , Jeremy ,Jeremy , ?
Feb 02nd, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0may one suggest, that all 3 of you go home, and think again on who you are .
@jeremy
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0That Falklanders are home and don't want to leave.
Do you want to try and remove them by force?
As I have asked other fascists like you before - would you have the stomach to drag them from their homes yourself, or would you let someone else do you dirty work for you, while you gloat over the tv images?
By your line of logic you should be evicting anybody in Argentina from the UK (not to be confused with England which is only a part of it) who is on business or has settled there recently. My what a clever move that would be.
If you want to remove those who have settled in South America since 1833 you would be talking about many thousands of people.......
The soil of the Falklands belongs to the Falklanders and they have elected to have the Union Flag fly over it.
The only place where the Flag of your lot flies over it is in your dreams, which seem to consist of a victorious invasion/annexation followed by ethnic cleansing to allow “true argentinians” to claim their lebensraum.
No negotiation with fascist colonialism.
No surrender.
If you drag the falklanders out, you'll have to remove the garrison feet first. Good luck with that as a plan, I bet they'd have something to say about it, along the lines of “eat hot lead Argie....” you can imagine the rest.
The funny thing in this war of words between Cristina and (symbolically) William is that she looks in a lot better shape and younger than him. Not the most political point I know, but it won't be the first time a Brit lowered the tone round here...
Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 and what hallucinogenic drug are you currently taking? Hmmmm..... Be honest now.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think monarchism has a lot more in common with hallucinagenic drugs than leftism =) As I said I was being a bit cheeky, at least in a good hearted way unlike a lot of the trolls round here. And you must admit Wills is no Olympian, nothing against him personally like but surely if we elected our head of state like Argentina and most of the world we could do better?
Feb 04th, 2012 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your forgetting something though - the queen does not run the country the prime minister does and so does parliment. Parliment is there to stop the PM dictating policies, laws regulations etc which is what a democracy is, everything goes to a vote in parliment.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@66 British Kirchnerist,
Feb 04th, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0l think Prince William is quite handsome.
When has looks got anything to do the way the man will do his job?
65
Feb 04th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think our “British Kirchnerist” friend may have had one too many.
http://youtu.be/DNdeLiV9Jz8
@69 I agree with you, looks like a case of “beer goggles” to me.
Feb 04th, 2012 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0but surely if we elected our head of state like Argentina and most of the world we could do better?...
Feb 04th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many other countries with a monarchy and or a president, would disagree with you on that remark, it does not matter who your leader is,, either they are good or they are not,
You just cannot say, they your dictatorship is better than our monarchy, even through we are run by parliament, instigated by a prime Minster.
We do ok, just as good as some, and not as bad as others,
Just be grateful you don’t live in north Korea,
Where they have the greatest god in the world, [according to them]
I was just being cheecky but seem to have hit a nerve =) On the beer-goggles comment I think it may be you who are blinded by your intoxicating hate; shall we leave it to a non-biased, apolitical judge? http://myfashionlustlist.blogspot.com/2011/03/female-leaders-style-christina-kirchner.html
Feb 04th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(72) British_Kirchnerist
Feb 05th, 2012 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You certainly are a sorely needed fresh breath of air on this pages, mate.
72
Feb 05th, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Typical Argentinian.
Can't take a joke, easy to provoke and tells lies.
Keep the faith - only 88 years to go.
You certainly are a sorely needed fresh breath of air on this pages
Feb 05th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fabreeze perhaps lol.
Argentines are not very bright, given the choice between fascism and democracy they have chosen fascism every time. Given the choice between American hegemony and being an independent nation, they have chosen America hegemony every time, characterised by its attendant secret police (NSA, CIA, Special Forces and other such gestapo trappings, including their own) and an attendant military or militant right government.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given the choice between being diplomacy and child like spats of anger and lies, they choose child like spats of anger and lies.
Argentina has never recovered from being a wannabe be Axis power in the 1930's. Argentina's version of fascism (like that of Spain's) remained undefeated by WW2 Allied powers. It hadn't even had to fight a real civil war to maintain power, just murder 50,000-100,000 of its own unarmed political activists and we all know how easy that was for their brave and heroic military men, like their hero Commander Astiz.
It took the Falklands War to shake the Argentines into some semblance of reality. Remove their military government and see the Americans as something other than a benevolent uncle, rather more like a the uncle you kept your children away from, you know the one in the old mack who always had his hands in his pockets and a grimace on his lips.
But within a few short years a girl came alone, a wannabe Eva Peron and took them all the way back to year zero! And the Argentine people gave up their collective memory and switched back to servile child.
In the West it's very difficult to understand how the average Argentine thinks. We have to imagine how our own per-adolescent children think and we can then get into their mindset. Give them a box of toy soldiers & some flags to play with and they are as happy as pie, tell them that they can't own Tracey Island though and they will cry their eyes out.
At school, the teachers would always tell them “Tracey Island” was their's. Even though the reality was, it wasn't!
Teaboy,
Feb 06th, 2012 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your name reminds the old ladies that drink tea or mate in Argentina. around 5'oclock. Anyway, your chronic non-sense statements are not only based on years lack of expousure but also of reading Royal family printed materials since you were 2 of age. By this age of yours, it takes a great courage to open your mind and see how the rest of the world perceives UK. I am not asking to change. JUST LISTEN OTHERS. You may enrich your life with good education.
You said that because UK discover Malvinas belong to UK. Let me know when UK discover another island in the South. If it moves it may be an iceberg. The best idea it is to drag it as close as Peninsula de Gibraltad( DID UK DISCOVER IT TOO ??)
@77 Who the hell are you to come on here and make personally insulting remarks about me and my posts.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK discovered the islands in 1690 historical fact, we settled them original in 1765, we left leaving a plague asserting our claim to sovereignty a few years later, we never relinquished our claim, unlike france and spain did. Even when in 1833 the united provinces tried to set up a penal colony, we were still holder of the sovereingty that we had never relinquished hence why were expelled the penal colony from the islands in 1833 and reasserted out claim.
You make it sound like i speak indoctrinated nonense, well clearly your an argentine, and we all know that argentine schools teach their children that the falklands are argentine when they are not and that the islanders are argentine when they are not. Hell how can they be argentine when the islanders themselves say they are british, whos telling the truth? Clearly its the islanders as why would they lie about who they are!
Also for your information i read little royal printed information other that the news aricles about them.
So my new found enemy, the only person specking nonsense out of me and you is clearly you. you indoctrinated argentina twat face. P.s. by the way, you insult me i will flaming insult you back twice as much. Don't like then don't go throwing insults around when you can not take being insulted back.
you are not first
Feb 06th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0insulting him, makes you look childish, teaboy2 is worth 10 of you indocrintated fellows,
bullies and userpers you are, and will always be.
#73 Thanks man, appreciate that from one of the few voices of sense round here =)
Feb 06th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#76 What I said on the Iron Lady thread...
(80) British_Kirchnerist
Feb 06th, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It has been said that there is nothing more uncommon than common sense.”
:-)
@79 Thanks britain, much appriciated.
Feb 06th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@81
Feb 06th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Common sense is the less common of the senses ..... get it right Mr Perfect :-))
Briton & Teaboy,
Feb 06th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you updated the picture of the little prince you had under your pillows.
Briton, Briton, Briton. You said there is not British Empire. Do you know what does means UK? Are British Briton. Do you Know the meaning about Kingdom?
Any elementary book will have this meaning
Teaboy,
You stated
“Well since when has the UK armed forces been a volunteer militia where they had to supply their own equipment, weapons and supplies”, What year do you live in. Come to DC and take a walk inside of the White House where the Lobby representatives are waiting for a war. Remember the year 2012? This is IT.
“ Argentines are themselves decendants of Conquistadors ?” We do not want to be Conquistadores. It is living the 1700's Do you understand WHY the UN resolution called
D-E-S-C-O-L-O-N-I-Z-A-T-I-O-N?
Question for Your Quiz:
What Country is directly connected with this word ?
a) GUATEMALA
b) Bolivia
c) UK
TAKE YOUR TIME. THE QUIZ CONTEMPLATES YOUR IQ LEVEL.
84 you are not first
Feb 06th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you updated the picture of the little prince you had under your pillows., Briton. You said there is not British Empire. Do you know what does means UK? Are British Briton. Do you Know the meaning about Kingdom?
Any elementary book will have this meaning
Allow me to update you silly boy, trying to convince the indoctrinated,
THERE IS no British empire, the UK is the united kingdom of great Britain,
There is no empire, THERE IS NO EMPIRE, hello anyone in there,
You are not the first or the last argie to be totally confused,
Iwill repeat it one more time, for all you school children,
THERE IS NO BRITISH EMPIRE,
But Argentina wants a empire,//that is what is confusing you,
84 you are not first
Argentines are themselves descendants of Conquistadors
[And just as bad, are you not///
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84 you are not first
What Country is directly connected with this word ?
a) GUATEMALA
b) Bolivia
c) UK
TAKE YOUR TIME. THE QUIZ CONTEMPLATES YOUR IQ LEVEL.
[NONE] but Bolivia does have the letter [o] in it,
Silly boy, and you IQ was , what,??
.
@84 you are not the first,
Feb 07th, 2012 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Condescending little clot, aren't you?
lts your silly country that wants to be an empire.
You've already got colonies in Patagonia & in the land that you stole from Paraguay.
Now, you greedy little articles want the Falklands & British Antarctic Territories too!
Argentina is the country that should be decolonised.
@80 British_Kirchnerist,
lf you think that sr Think's opinion is a voice of sense then you are definitely beyond help. The man is a prize turnip.
He has this ridiculous idea that OUR land belongs to Argentina, when it clearly doesn't.
Furthermore he wants to turn us out of our homes.
No mate, hitch your wagon to another horse, that one is nearly senile.♥♥
Isolde: I have just read Peter's article of 27th Jan. He is still waiting for you to contact and meet up with him, then I can contact you direct.
Feb 07th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British_Kirchnerist
Feb 07th, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are British - you're a disgrace. Hundreds of thousands of British servicemen died so that you could sell your own kind down the river into occupation and/or eviction to make you feel better about yourself.
Here is something for you to “think” about, the end result of siding with people like the Argentinians, embodied by your best mate of the same name.
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
If it can happen to the Falklanders because we are weak, it can happen to you....
Oh, by the way, I really don't like CFK and I don't have to. I regard her as what she is: a populist, rabble rousing, vain, glory seeker who has the desire to crush us, looking to book her place in history by trampling over a small British community.
She is an enemy of Britain and of peace.
She would cold bloodily invade the place in a moment if she thought she would get away with it.
@Tim,
Feb 08th, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your offer but l'm afraid that l cannot just at this time.
Some other time. Will contact you when we can meet. Regards.
Isolde I would never advocate kicking anyone out of their homes. As a strong supporter of the Palestinian refugees who this really happened to I find such a prospect repugnant. But the idea that Cristina wants to do this to the Islanders is sheer propaganda.
Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest I'm more interested in her leftist economic policies, which lifted Argentina out of economic disaster quicker and better than Cameron's failed cuts (in Britain there are people getting their homes repossesed, ie being kicked out of their homes, by the banks!) Until recently I didn't know much about the Falklands and didn't have much of an opinion on it, except that it was a shame Thatcher won the '83 election and kept wrecking the country on the basis of the war (as opposed to 1945 when Churchill, who I salute for his heroic leadership in World War 2, was nonetheless replaced by a Labour government more attuned to our domestic needs).
But the idea that 3,000 people can hold on to massive reserves of oil, or siphon them to a homeland on the other side of the Atlantic, at the cost of 40 million people whose coastal waters the oil is under, is simply iniquitous. I don't know what outcome could result from talks, whether there could be a Hong Kong style handover with a similar “one country, two systems” formula, dual nationality (including upgrading of the Islanders to full british citizens, something Thatcher took away I think) or even Argentine recognition of the Islanders' Britishness/independence in return for rights to the oil and fish.
But the running sore isn't going to be healed when theres no talking at all, on the other hand its in the interests of British big business to maintain a lockdown and take the oil as a fait accoompli.
Thats why I'm backing Cristina on this, and thats why looking past the propaganda the Islanders have nothing to fear from this human rights conscious President.
@British_Kirchnerist
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you like CFK and her policies so much - emigrate and live in Argentina. Otherwise why don't you advocate your area becoming part of a quite hostile nearby country, say Russia or North Korea, which is pretty left wing if further away.
I bet you would'nt like your home being claimed by the Argentinians and other people advocating that you lose your right to self determination.
The idea that Thatcher won in 1983 solely based on the Falklands is a fallacy, Labour was simply unelectable for a number of reasons, depite Thatchers unpopularity.
The Argentinians could have shared the oil wealth, but the very people you lionise tore up the agreements. Do you want to live in a country poorer for not developing those oil resources? would you really rather give them away to a hostile, aggressive nation?
Rewarding aggression never goes well, you end up becoming a target for everyone with an axe to grind because they smell weakness.
Thats why I'm backing Isolde and everyone who lives in the Falklands, and why I'm backing my country against Argentina. Those people are our enemies.
Your Commentconcidering the islands do not belong to argentina, and never have, why should they share with you,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argentina has its own oil and resourses,
argentina has no rights to anything from the isladers,
you are of course entitles to your beliefs,, and you can want for ever, but they are not your, never have been and never will be, its that simple .
@90British_Kirchnerist,
Feb 09th, 2012 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The oil that you want to just give away does not lie under Argentina's waters. lt belongs to the Falklands.
We had a deal that would have been lucrative to them had oil been found(and it has)but they tore it up in spite because they couldn't take over the Falklands. Rather childish, don't you think?
Now, however you think that we cut them in on the deal?
You don't sell your car because you think its a clunker, then when the new owner makes it like new, you want it back? Get real!
They do have some oil in their 200 mile territorial waters.
OK, thats theirs, we don't want it.
You say that you don't advocate kicking anyone out of their homes.
That is what they are going to do if they ever take over & we refuse to become Argentines.
They have done it already in their brief foray in 1982.
They also murdered 30,000 of their own people.
What makes you think that they wouldn't do it here if the conditions were right?
What if Britain was distracted by a war in Europe & couldn't come to our aid? They would invade again before you could say “Jack Robinson”
Despite all that they were taught at school, they DON'T own the Falklands & never did.
They have NO RIGHTS HERE.
So, the oil is ALL ours & there will be NO NEGOTIATIONS ON SOVEREIGNTY♥
All I see in Argentina is a nation who, over the many years, has been totally consistent in doing everything badly.
Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina was a South Korea of enterprise and 'get up and go', countries within the region would WANT to get involved with her.
Unfortunately, she is a head-case, and only other head-cases associate. Chavez being the greatest of these. Others will exploit the head-case(s) for their own ends, but not out of friendship of because Argentina is conspicuously successful at what she does.
Where is the advantage for TFI in associating with a AR/VE pair of drunks propping up a lamp-post.
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