“People of the Falklands want to remain British” and they will be defended
UK Prime Minister David Cameron said on Thursday no one should doubt his determination to keep the Falkland Islands British as he dismissed President Cristina Fernández announced complaint to the United Nations.
“The people of the Islands want to stay British and the UK will defend the territory properly to make sure they do so”, Cameron told reporters in Stockholm.
Likewise, Cameron warned that “Argentina will find when she goes to the United Nations that it is an absolutely key part of the United Nations Charter to support self determination”, and added, “What we’ve said is absolutely clear and right under the United Nations, as long as the people of the Falkland Islands want to retain that status, we will make sure that they do.”
The statements came after Cristina Fernández said on Tuesday that she will lodge a complaint with the UN Security Council over the UK’s “militarization” of the southern South Atlantic and the Islands.
The move follows Britain’s announcement to send one of its newest destroyers, HMS Dauntless, on the South Atlantic patrol to take over from an older ship HMS Montrose. Prince William is also in the Falklands as helicopter pilot of the Search and Rescue service, a routine rotation of RAF SAR crews.
“We will defend the Falkland Islands properly,” Cameron said. “I think that is very simply put, very straightforward and shouldn’t leave anybody in any doubt about our support for the Islands, for their people and for the status they themselves want to maintain”.
On Wednesday a Foreign Office spokesperson denied any militarization of the South Atlantic arguing that “our defensive posture in the Falklands remains unchanged, though we remain firmly committed to the defence and security of the Falklands”.
It added that “the people of the Falkland Islands are British out of choice. They are free to determine their own future, and there will be no negotiations with Argentina on sovereignty unless the Islanders wish it”.
Further more the FCO spokesperson underlined that “the UK has no doubt about our sovereignty over the Falklands and the principle of self-determination, as set out in the UN Charter, underlies our position”.
Finally, ”the UN action is a matter for Argentina. The Falklands is already discussed annually in the C24 Committee”.
From the Falklands Dick Sawle, elected member of the Legislative Assembly said he welcomed Argentina's plan to protest to the UN.
“The reason why I welcome that is that the United Nations ought to look at the decisions it has made in the past” which favour self-determination. “I think that the British government is absolutely right to back that fundamental right that we have to self-determination, and this is the cornerstone of the UN of course.”
He added that Falkland Islanders “do not wish to be taken over in any way, shape or form by Argentina. That is absolutely fundamental”.
MLA Mike Summers also pointed out that Argentina are very welcome to take the “militarization” issue to the UN Security Council and General Assembly but they should be aware that “as guardians of the principle of right to self-determination, this issue would also be raised in the context of any discussion regarding the Falkland Islands”.
Finally if Cristina Fernandez would sincerely like to “give peace a chance”, a phrase she has used to urge PM Cameron to the negotiation table, “she should consider removing the punitive measures she has put in place in an attempt to force Islanders to bend to the will of her government”.
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All the smoke and mirrors from the weekend leading up to that lot of BS on Tuesday night. No surprise at all. ... and to also use the poor families of their brave war dead as pawns in this game. It's bad enough that Argentina has insisted on keeping their graves thousands of miles away from home but now to also build up the hopes of those poor NOK. They were given the impression that something special was going to be announced on Tuesday night, but only to be locked out of the Pink House and then have the police set upon them to finish the night off. Class act you lunatic.
Let's hope that she at least keeps her promise to invest more money into the mental treatment of veterans.
Where is our Atomic Submarine?
You promesssed us to send an Atomic Submarine!
We want that Atomic Submarine and we want it now!!!
Cameron... can you say something more apart from things related to war??
@ 1 The Falklands are British: what would have been according to you a “special announcement” from CFK? Something about war? If the fascist media that you read tells you lies and warns you about a supposed “argentinian aggression” is your problem...
Being accused at the UN may not change the situation, but it is nothing ordinary.... Or at least it shouldn't be...
I can see that you are accustomed to a warrior logic, an aggressive logic, where war is banalized, and victims are just numbers...
@3 They are still trying to put it together. Push bolt B through hole C and then fit nut A. Your “Atomic” submarine is about 2 years away. If it doesn't blow up while you're trying to put it together. Meanwhile, Britain has 12 nuclear submarines. Wouldn't it be fun if we waited until your “Atomic” submarine was nearly complete and then the SBS planted a demolition charge, the Royal Navy launched a cruise missile and the RAF launched a different type of cruise missile. All timed to arrive and explode at the same time. Lovely. Don't think we don't know where everything you have is. And you know the best bit? There isn't a single square millimetre of your country that is out of range.
Give us all a legitimate justification for the way your your president, your government, your nation is treating the families of the war dead. Not only are many of the soldiers' bodies buried thousands of miles from home but their families are nothing more than political pawns in a crazy game.
Tell you when the nuclear submarine arrives in the South Atlantic? You know it doesn't work that way so sorry to spoil your fun. Most likely there's been one down there for years.. I saw one within the past few years. Can't quite remember when but there it was. I also can't remember whether she was nuclear or not either. Not that it would make much difference. I mean it would be like trying to decide whether to send Manchester City's first eleven or second eleven in to play a match against the Reading under 13 side.
Not that the UK has an aggressive military stance in the South Atlantic anyway. It's purely precautionary defence like it has be for 29 and a bit years.
That's a good question actually. What could she have announced that would actually have been noteworthy AND give her an advantage. I couldn't work out what that would be and obviously neither could she. I knew she wouldn't be foolish enough to see through her threat to stop LAN. That would've only affected your country in the long run. Sure, we would've had to find another source of excellent and loyal immigrant workers but we would've. Also, CFK must have enough sources of intelligence to know that our alternative plan to LAN is at a pretty mature stage now. Forcing LAN to stop from this point will only lead to a position of more strength and independence now. Sure, a little bit of pain for 6 - 12 months but nothing more.
She obviously couldn't announce any sort of military response. Well, she just couldn't. Period.
Also, she obviously wasn't going to announce that she truly wants to give peace a chance and was therefore stopping her rhetoric and handing out an olive branch. She's too committed to this course of action and her domestic situation is too dire to stop the distraction.
No, you're right. It was never going to be a special announcement.
Long Live the Falklands.
And you call the British warmongers! LOL! It's not far under your surface is it? Why do you suppose a H bomb would be a justifiable reaction to the presence of a nuclear- powered submarine?
The second funny bit is that you think Argentina could make one AND that the world would allow it to. I have to stop here before I wet myself laughing.
Long Live the Falklands.
Down with argentine Colonialism.
Well said.
The Malvinistas won't answer so what about you? Can you think of any justifiable reason for the treatment of the dead Argentine soldiers and their families?
Firstly, leaving their dead bodies in graves thousands of miles from home and then using their families as pawns from 1982 right through and continuing onwards past 2012.
I was on a LAN flight with a plane load of war dead families that landed in Rio Gellegos one year. This was back in CFK's hubby's day. The poor families were just trying to get home after a week of mixed emotions but the big man himself had decided to throw a welcoming reception for them there at the airport. Big brass band, military brass and TV crews everywhere you looked. The families were treated as special for about 10 minutes and then dumped like rotten eggs. On the news that night it looked like they were treated like royalty but the reality was that they looked shell-shocked and were terribly exploited.
Not wonder the world hates this creatures.
She says she is asking for peace but in fact she is trying to invoke the reverse. What's she is doing is like poking a stick into a hornet's nest while wearing only a T-shirt ans shorts and at the same time saying “don't bite me, I mean you no harm and I have no defence against you”.
Also Marcos. Can you tell me that the way the Argentine war dead and their families are being treating is in any way anything but disgraceful exploitation?
Well, is all over the web now.
Penguin News editor
Lisa Watson@Lisafalklands
@ezeavila @malenamalbod thanks for telling me:-) not my aim to cause anger - but PN staff have naughty sense of humour
That shows who this British in Malvinas really are.
Grow up. You make it sound like CFK and her government, your nation, treats us with nothing but respect. If you pull it any harder it will come off in your hand mate.
Anyway, she is a bitch.
Right, listen up. Which one of you bitches called this bitch a bitch?
'That shows who this British in Malvinas really are.'
errr, yes, people who think CFK is a bitch. Well that's hardly news is it?
Putting it in the paper was a mistake, but we all make those sometimes.
You are asking to grow up ? The answer to your narrow and old/child romantic thinking IS THE CALL: NO MORE COLONIES IN THE WORLD!!
Tonight, remove prince Andrew's picture you have kept all these years under your pillow, and tomorrow you will belong to the free world.
Please, do not tell me that the issue is who is more British. PLEASE, PLEASE.
THE ISSUE IS OIL- OIL- AND MORE OIL. CHEAP STOLEN ENERGY FROM THE FREE WORLD. Or , do you still believe that the wars in PERSIAN REGIONS ARE DUE TO FREEDOM? DUBAI, QUATAR KINGS AND THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD LOVE YOU. THE ENJOY YOUR ARROGANCE.
Keep watching the 007 movies. You live in an island and are an island yourself.
Of course it's about oil a lot of the time and we've got a shit load of it. But it's not just about oild for us and you know it. We've been living here happily for almost 200 years. Do you think our ancestors in the 1800's said “listen boys, let's stay here until the world figures out how to drill for oil because there is bound to be loads in this area”?
What do you think about the way your CFK, your president, your country, treats its war dead and their families? None of you want to answer that.
By the way, your family is there from 7 years after the INVASION.... WORD INVASION REMIND ME YOU LIVE THERE BECAUSE SOME OTHERS invade OUR TERRITORY AND WERE DISPLACED BY THE UNITED KINGDOM-
Of course you want to stay there and be british; because you are, and all british same as you are ISLANDERS, even if you was born in London-
And we want our rigths and Island BACK-
The editor of the Penguin recognize that were implanted by a foreign power and now they want their self-determination ... is amazing and surreal-
THANK YOU LISA WATSON-
Regards-
What do you think about how your CFK, your government, your country, treats its war dead and their families?
The truth is the UK is still one of the most powerful countries in the world politically, economically and militarily so Argentina has absolutely zero chance if it engages in a battle of politics, economics or in any military action.
The best thing Argentina could do is support the islanders and stop with the bullying, harassment and shameless lying over history. Over time the islanders could come to accept Argentina and if they did then they could eventually become Argentine but through choice since Argentina clearly is in no position to force them to do anything they do not want to do with British might behind them.
If CFK really wants peace then she needs to stop causing conflict with her rhetoric and trying to stir up bad feeling against the UK and the islanders.
Complaining to the UN is less than worthless for instance since the UK sits on the security council, reviews the complaint and can veto anything that suits it. Its a shameless action that is another press stunt to deflect attention away from the countries problems.
@9 Have you noticed how the world feels about Iran getting nuclear weapons? Just imagine how the world would feel about an immature, power-crazed, imperialist, colonialist cesspit like argieland getting one.
@15 How would we know whether she's a bitch? She's certainly a pig. A fat pig. A fat plastic pig. We don't discuss “peace” with pigs. The only question is, “Is this your day to become a dog's breakfast?”
The good thing is that CFK seems, at long last, to be acquiring a modicum of sense. You DO NOT threaten British citizens wherever they are in the world. Neither CFK nor her pitiful “country” has the capability to resist a nation such as Britain. Do not misunderstand. In 1982, argieland invaded a British territory. The actual physical British response began on 21 May 1982. Argie forces surrendered on 14 June 1982. 24 days. And, unlike argieland, Britain used less than 10% of its armed forces. British armed forces are now immensely more capable than they were in '82. Typhoons instead of Harriers. Cruise missiles instead of guns. Challenger 2 main battle tanks instead of Scorpion and Scimitar light tanks. Apache helicopters instead of Gazelles. Just examples, you understand. There's plenty more. At the end of the day, would Britain accept defeat or use its Trident D5 nuclear missiles? What an interesting question. Why not go to bed and think about how you'd like to melt?
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/chileans-demonstrate-against-argentina/
Mr Lorton
You wrote “I started out with an opinion that the Islands were British. An opinion based more on faith than any real knowledge”
That self explains why you don't have a clue about history facts.
www.falklandia.com/Timeline/Introduction.htm
You really are a dim pillock, Lisa didn't say that, the reporter added it. Sad muppet.
21 Monty69 “Putting it in the paper was a mistake”
Like the racist mug?
Thank you for your help.
He said nothing rude or insulting,
But the reply from bloggers that claim peaceful means, is to condemn him, run him down insult him,
And you wonder why the world ignores you,
And the UN will humiliate you,
Does anyone know when, and what will the letter be,
Or will it just quietly fade away,
please just worry about your own big country, rather than a tiny little island .
Some people are too dumb I guess.
here is a message from an Argentine in Canada to all the illegal aliens in Islas Malvinas Argentina, you want to be british ?? great go home no Argentine will stop you, you want to stay in my country ?? great do as an Argentine living in north america does?? become a citizen, my dead father had to do it in Canada and be sure before i die i will see british payed back in kind. The same goes for your cousins in USA with the way they treat LatinAmericans and Mexicans some people are quick to forget but people like me are there to remind them. ni un paso atras..
Also long live Lisa Watson she should get a pay rise as the truth hurts Marco your CFK is a right dog, what can one say.
Well old bean TTFN
“ you want to be british ?? great go home no Argentine will stop you, you want to stay in my country ?? great do as an Argentine living in north america does?? become a citizen”
In fact they don't even need to change its british life, but the british military feet in here: NO!
I would also like to see those who claim “self-determination” of an implanted population by the UK in a seized land defending self-determination of Palestina, claiming self-determination for Afghanistan or Irak in the moment these societies were not allowed to grow and be independent by the little group of warriors represented by Mr. Bush.
I would also like to see them complaining about the Monetary Fund and the World Bank and the European Central Bank as responsibles for crisis.
I would also like to see them defending the islands from oil companies that will put the zone in a huge enviromental risk.
I would like to see them saying that those brits that work the whole day with taxes they pay are the ones supporting this unnecessary militarization the same way they supported the wars against “terrorism” that brought nothing but more fear and unsecurity to the world.
A european military force in Southamerica like the british one, guilty of so many crimes and massacres is not ok for latinamericans,, we don't want it, we don't like it and it is bad for the security in this side of the world, we have no colonial ambitions, in fact we were born fighting against colonialism, that is part of Europe's history, the story of a continent where the strong ones invade the weak ones, in war, or in the disguise of a European Union.
The British Army is guilty of so many disasters, they invaded Buenos Aires in the past also, they even colonialized Argentina in a commercial way after we got independence from Spain.
I am sorry guys, your history doesn't help... Latinamericans want PEACE. Too much british ambition...
Good one!!
Well TTFN old bean
And the Romans invaded britain,
and your point is what .
About the 'racist mug';
Everytime an Argentine prints a map of the Falkland Islands in the colours of the Argentine flag, you are grossly insulting every Falkland Islander. It's every bit as offensive as the 'racist mug'. Do you hear us complaining? No.
Dry your eyes princess.
You president is a bitch.
A lying, conniving, thieving, rubber faced bitch.
Hope this clears it up for you.
Colonialism - like that that forged your country?
Massacres - like the 30,000 approximate killed by your Junta?
Disasters like the 1982 invasion of the Falklands?
Invasions that failed (see above) and also the platine war.
What´s the point?
Respecto a Lisa watson ella escribio un email diciendo eso- Es que es normal que lo diga porque es así y de ningun otro modo-
Un diario como La Nacion (opositor) no tiene necesidad de poner cosas en la boca de la sra Watson-
MITRE was partner of UK in the war against Paraguay.....they love each other!
Isolde: how many insults....why?...did you feel the “rubber” in your life?
Guys: relax: please get your autodetermination solicitud in the Decolonization Commite soon and TRY AGAIN-
Regards-
You wrote: “You president is a bitch”
Que? No I am not the president and you are just a tourist in Argentina.
Keep the pressure Cristina! Isolde is just about to explode :-)))
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJG2ple4IHo
cut out all the dead wood.
Sometimes I wonder how people can be so blind themselves. It is called CVI or cortical visual impaired. Blindess is occurring in the brain. This is the only definition to the English ill society. How and whom which is surrounded by Colonies that have been occupied by violent force, abuse, destruction, systematic cleansing of original cultures for about 500 years around the world . CAN POINT TO A COUNTRY SUCH ARGENTINA AND SAY ” COLONIALIST !!!
Yes we can, you are a would be colonialist power.
1) You want to colonise the Falklands which DO NOT belong to you!
2) You still hold onto the land that you LOOTED from Paraguay.
3) You lay claim to British possessions in Antarctica.
4) You are Squatters in Patagonia, after slaughtering thousands of Amerindians & then stealing their land.
None of this land is yours,
Ergo you are murderers, thieves & would be thieves.
You are colonialists, but won't admit it.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
@48Marcos Alejandro,
You must be confusing me with someone else, señor,
l have never been to Argentina(& no, the Falklands are NOT part of Argentina).
@47Rosarino,
Why not? you insult us all the time, why shouldn't l tell it like it is?
Like the rest of you malvinistas, she knows she does wrong.
why do the stupid get worse,
because they are silly
vamose silly boy .
Que?
turncoat
white and yellow
the difference a mear 8,000 miles,
you need to go home ,
and defend from argentina, not canada .
No more debate, blockade them, threaten them, destroy them!!! This is Argentine islands and Argentine oil, being drilled by colonial pirates, protect by pirate ships, sooner all destroyed better.
Clearly, Malvinas is Argentine, claim exist since before Argentina exist. This is well documented that we renounce claim in 1850 but claim was resurrected under Peron who traveled to Italy and adopted policies of Mussolini fascist party in order to make Argentina great nation that it became.
As part of expanded living space, we must continue this policy and we must take over Terra del Fuego and Beagle Channel and then Malvinas.
My grandfather while working for Intelligence visit Indonesia in 1976 to copy plans they used for invasion of Portuguese East Timor and removal of colonial population to be copied in invasion of Malvinas.
If we had copied these plans our invasion would be success and like East Timor is part of Indonesia, Malvinas would now be part of Argentina. World has very short memory.
In order to do good for our country we must do bad things. This is what my grandfather always says.
We know Malvinas never been under Argentine sovereignty but gifted to us by Papal Bull in 1496. No one can argue with Pope or God, that whole of South America given by him to Spain.
Go home colonial pirates w claim you land before our country exist, you can not argue with that. You live there almost 200 years illegally, you have no rights. We will own your homes, farms, businesses, oil and fish.
You will be made to speak Spanish, drive on right, obey our laws, live under our government and governor. In return we give you right to be reborn like our national hero James Peck.
James Peck is son of Malvinas War traitor Terry Peck, he was awarded MBE for helping British occupy our land. Unlike his father, James is brave, patriot, his father will be turning in his grave.
You can all be reborn like James Peck. Or you can die like Terry Peck!
Talk is cheap ti
That something like this was allowed to happen is a crime against humanity, 50,000-100,000 raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered and disappeared (Borges). Unborn babies ripped out of their mothers wombs, young children taken from their parents, who were murdered by the heroic Argentine military.
Anyone of you born in the 70's? I hope your lucky enough to know who your real parents are...
The Official Story / La historia official (1985)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7LF5II0wIY
It's a film everyone should watch. Feel shame because the specter of fascism still grips Argentina and as Martino Moreno said “If publishing the truth is forbidden, then lies, ignorance and poverty will follow”.
Argentina's history is still being written by Moreno's assassins.
They are wasting their breath as they will never control these lslands.
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