Friday, February 10th 2012 - 04:20 UTC

Prince Harry named best co-pilot gunner of the Apache helicopter training course

Prince Harry, or Captain Wales as he is known in the Army, has been named best co-pilot gunner in his Apache training course. Captain Wales and his fellow trainees have now completed the Conversion to Role (CTR) course which involves 18 months of rigorous training on the Apache attack helicopter.

Captain Wales course included a two month exercise in the US

During a dinner to mark the end of the course on Tuesday 7 February 2012, Captain Wales and his fellow students were congratulated by the Apache Force Commander, Colonel Neale Moss, who said they were now up to the challenge of operating one of the most sophisticated attack helicopters in the world.

The prize of best co-pilot gunner marks out the student whose overall performance during the course is assessed as the best amongst their peer group. The award handed to Captain Wales consists of a polished 30mm round from an Apache cannon mounted on a stand. This is the second time the award has been given.

More than 20 students finished the course alongside Captain Wales.

Colonel Moss, Commander of the Attack Helicopter Force at Wattisham Station, said:

“The Apache course is extremely challenging, teaching and testing students in their flying skills, decision-making and mental agility on exercise all over the country and abroad. They are assessed continually to ensure that they are up to the challenge of operating one of the most sophisticated attack helicopters in the world.

”This requires composure, dedication and hard work and I congratulate all of the students as they go forward to join an operational squadron and continue to learn more in their aviation careers.”

The Apache training is conducted in two parts: the Conversion to Type course at Middle Wallop in Hampshire, which teaches students to fly the aircraft, and the CTR course at Wattisham which teaches them how to fight the aircraft.

A major part of the CTR course is a two-month exercise in the United States known as Crimson Eagle.

This exercise includes environmental training where students have to prove their proficiency in handling the aircraft in mountainous and desert conditions, including dust landings and limited power training during both the day and night, as well as safely employing the aircraft's weapons.

It also includes a period of judgemental training in the use of the weapon systems in a challenging tactical situation. Towards the end of the exercise all students took part in a live firing phase where they were able to fire all of the aircraft's weapon systems within realistic tactical scenarios.

Students who have completed their Apache training are awarded 'limited combat ready' status, having proven themselves in a range of demanding assessments, both on their own and operating as pairs of aircraft.

The course is designed to prepare students for the Apache aviation challenges faced in the current operating climate. They will now be assigned to squadrons in the Apache Force based at Wattisham, part of 16 Air Assault Brigade.

Captain Wales will be assigned to 662 Squadron, 3 Regiment Army Air Corps, where he will gain wider experience flying Apaches and taking part in exercises in the United Kingdom

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1 Viscount Falkland (#) Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:21 am Report abuse
Lets have him stationed on the Jason Islands with his hell fire missiles on hair trigger ! Oh and the “bitch seeker” switched on !
2 ChrisR (#) Feb 10th, 2012 - 10:33 am Report abuse
Well done Harry!

Who knows, one day you may be in the South Atlantic with your gunship out shooting an 'Old Crow' dressed in black.

Let us hope it is sooner rather than later. :o)
3 briton (#) Feb 10th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse
whatever we do, where ever we go,
it has nothing to do with argentina .
4 GeoffWard2 (#) Feb 10th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse
These media pieces on the royals in military mode are the UK government's veiled but not-so-ambiguous signal that the British military and political leaders are keeping a very close eye on matters to do with Argentina.
There will be no mistaking the signals in BA. That happened once before, and the UK government is making absolutely sure there is no scope for misreading signals this time.
5 Audi Consilium (#) Feb 10th, 2012 - 08:59 pm Report abuse
#4 - GeoffWard, actually the UK press has been keeping up a constant 'commentary' regarding Prince Harry's helicopter training for the last 2 years and his wish to continue serving his country with his army colleagues in Afganistan ! He has never mentioned anything in relation to fighting or 'keeping a very close eye on' the Falklands. In fact given his enthusiasm for polo, I would rather expect he has many friends in Argentina !!!
His brother, being 2nd in line for the Throne is rightly kept out of any combat situation but is himself serving in a dangerous and highly skilled aviation role with the RAF as part of its Air Sea Rescue Service.
6 O gara (#) Feb 10th, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
Well done Harry one has to admire the Brit media they take lessons from Pyongyang. Harry I am sure when you take up golf you will equal Kim Jong Ils seven holes in one.Peter Aliss would be proud Harry
7 you are not first (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 04:21 am Report abuse
8 Think (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 10:16 am Report abuse
(5) Audi Consilium

Very good response to Mr. ”Insufferable” GeoffWard………..

About Polo, Argentina and the Royals………..:
It may be a cock-and-bull story, but during the last 30 years I have several times heard, from different sources, a story about the Duke allegedly saying to Lizzy:

“I would gladly exchange those Islands for a pair of their best players.“
9 Viscount Falkland (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 12:07 pm Report abuse
Luckily.....they belong to the people of the Falkland Islands !
10 Think (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 01:38 pm Report abuse

Marina Hyde…. a blondie of my liking…:

Ahhhhhh…. The good ol’ times….:,2849673&dq=falklands&hl=en
11 ChrisR (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 02:18 pm Report abuse
8 Think

For once Sr Think you are correct: you are speaking bollocks.
12 Think (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 03:36 pm Report abuse

Seems we have got a ”very dangeroussss keyboard psycho” in our midst...

This is the fifth time in the last couple of months that “Mr. ChrisR” mentions his beloved and lethal ”Razor Sharp Flick-Knife” to us…:

”(12) ChrisR Dec 13th, 2011
…..I can cut their throats on the fly with my razor sharp flick-knife. And it will be back in my pocket before they have finished dying and anyone knows who has done it.”

”(67) ChrisR Feb 02nd, 2012
I would keep my mouth shut in case someone (like me) came along and slashed your left carotid artery, your windpipe and your right carotid artery from behind you (with my razor sharp flick-knife) before you even knew what was happening……..”

“(13) ChrisR Feb 05th, 2012
…..If you need any help I will loan you my 4.5 in razor sharp bladed flick knife.”

“(11) ChrisR Feb 10th, 2012
….. if you are trained and carry a knife of your own (which is why I carry a 115 mm bladed razor sharp flick knife at all times)“

”(13) ChrisR Feb 11th, 2012
12 Think…. The reason I keep a flick knife on me at all times is to defend myself………….”

A perfect example for the “low quality” of some Anglo posters on these pages…..
I would place him in the same category as Mr. Pirat-Hunter, our resident Argie loonie….

What a Turnip!
13 GeoffWard2 (#) Feb 11th, 2012 - 11:02 pm Report abuse
Audi Consilium (#5)
” . . He (the Royal) has never mentioned anything in relation to fighting or 'keeping a very close eye on' the Falklands. In fact given his enthusiasm for polo, I would rather expect he has many friends in Argentina . . . ”

Dear Audi,
I think you failed to read the English correctly.
The 'message' is not passed by the royals, it is the British government passing a message to the Argentinian government via the media. And if it has been doing this for the last few years, it is because it perceives a need to keep the Argentinians constantly informed about its protectorate responsibility.

Wrt polo, Sr. Think,
around 1870 some 40% of the B.A. (='Argentina') population were British.
They brought both polo and football (along with quality schools) to the 'new continent', initially for the dalliance of the colonial classes, but subsequently translocated it into the more indigenous communities in Argentina - and also in Uruguay and Brasil.
Ah, yes, the continent has much to thank the British for.
14 Audi Consilium (#) Feb 12th, 2012 - 01:21 am Report abuse
Your point is noted and accepted, I would however respectfully suggest that in both countries the Media is mostly responsible (especially in the UK) for its bullish arrogance and 'playing up' a good story to see how its readership is whipped into a frenzy, I expect that this is true in Argentina also, and those who are susceptible unleash their anger & aggression in comments forums. I would not wish to be though of as angry or aggressive. Re your comments on polo & football, surely you cannot be upset that the British introduced football ??? lol
15 you are not first (#) Feb 12th, 2012 - 01:41 am Report abuse
Hey Prince, What is next?

Are you going to play with submarine or you are going to practice how to shoot a missile to Argentina.?? You are such a man. I am glad you can use tax money of ALL YOUR COLONIES and your servants that has paid. In this newspaper you will find many who are kiss your hands and something else.
16 Think (#) Feb 12th, 2012 - 01:35 pm Report abuse
(13) Mr. GeoffWard……………….

One of the reasons I call you ”Insufferable” is because you insist in discrediting and shaming British Academia (to which you so adamant pledge to belong) at every possible occasion with silly asseverations like :


Where in Earth do you get your information from???

Please find below a link to the real population numbers in 1870´s Buenos Aires:

” El censo nacional de 1869, realizado bajo la presidencia de Sarmiento, determinaba que Buenos Aires tenía 177.787 habitantes, dentro de un total de 1.830.214 para todo el país. La población extranjera en Buenos Aires era de 88.126 personas, frente a un total de 89.661 argentinos y fue clasificada así: italianos 44.233; españoles 14.609; franceses 14.180; uruguayos 6.177; ingleses 3.174; alemanes 2.070; suizos 1401; portugueses 798; brasileños 733; norteamericanos 611; paraguayos 606; austriacos 544; chilenos 471; belgas 163; bolivianos y peruanos 151, varios 2.297.”

Not even a 2% of Buenos Aires population was of British origin in 1870.

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