Argentine government in full force support Vice-president accused of embezzlement
The Argentine government came out in full force over the weekend to back Vice-President Amado Boudou after he was accused of embezzlement in what become known as the “Ciccone Case”.
Boudou defended himself from the allegations and denounced what he called an “attack” against the “popular” will and institutions during a press conference last week held at the Senate.
Investigators raided an apartment owned by Vice President Amado Boudou on last Wednesday as part of a court probe into possible influence peddling by the country's second-in-command. The investigation centres on whether Boudou helped printing company Ciccone Calcografica get out of bankruptcy in 2010 and later steered a contract to its new owners to print money.
Government officials and party colleagues voiced their support for the nation second in command. Cabinet chief Juan Manuel Abal Medina said “he was never going to give in control to businesses corporations and media groups,” as he stressed his support for Boudou.
Victory Front Senator Aníbal Fernández twitted the “media operation against Boudou was shameful,” and urged the Vice-President to “resist”.
During an interview to the official news agency Telam, the head of Victory Front's bloc in the Lower House Agustín Rossi also expressed his support for the Vice-President. “He is the victim of corporate attack which objective is to delegitimize last October’s popular vote,” he said.
Lower House president Julián Domínguez stressed the accusations were an assault against democracy itself. “Throughout history the strategy of those who won’t accept the popular choices is to disqualify those chosen by the people’s vote in order to throw the administration and actions into a crisis,” Dominguéz said.
Buenos Aires Vice-governor Gabriel Mariotto also stepped into the spotlight to defend Boudou. He said the media charges were “an operation carried out by hegemonic groups.”
Boudou served as Argentina's Economy minister for more than two years before he took office as vice president in December. He has denied any link to the printing company, which now operates under the name Compania de Valores Sudamericana (CVS)
Last week during the press conference following which he took no questions, Boudou said he's a victim of a misguided judicial investigation and slanted news coverage after authorities raided an apartment he owns.
Boudou called the magistrate in the case Judge Daniel Rafecasa “vaudeville” judge and said the raid ordered by the judge at the request of prosecutors was “judicial trash.”
The Vice-president also criticized the Argentine media conglomerate Grupo Clarin and the newspaper La Nacion for their coverage of the case, accusing them of behaving like anti-government mafias. Both news organizations have often clashed with President Cristina Fernandez's government.
“Clarin attacks institutions in an illegal way,” Boudou said. He complained that judicial authorities have been releasing details of the investigation. “The courts in Argentina are news agencies for the most powerful media organizations,” he said.
Boudou said that despite “attacks against the government ... we will keep busy with Argentina's real issues.”
Opposition politicians criticized the vice president for defending himself by attacking the authorities who are investigating. Some members also publicly asked Boudou to take a “leave of absence” and “step aside” while the investigation is ongoing.
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you should resolve Hugo Moyano problem who has really Armenian origin but carry fake identity....
maybe ...1(#) is my assumption...?
As for the justice system. It is common knowledge that you can get off any crime if you pay the right people the right price. I am guessing Boudou wouldn't pay the asking price.
ls he part of CFK's gang of crooks or did he strike out on his own?
l guess she doesn't like competition, ha!
l see you've got an echo at #6 Elaine.
Perhaps Boudou will get to feel like what it is to be economically blockaded, given CFK attacks Falklands in an illegal way.
And, as for complaining that judicial authorities have been releasing details of the investigation - that sounds like CFK govt attempting to take the oil and gas companies and their contractors and sub-contractor to court for legally going about their work in the Falklands, by publishing detail in the media or via Twitterman first!
Smacks of an own goal - yes another one! Keep them coming.
Despite attacks against the Falkland government ... it is able to keep busy with Falklands real issues.”
Who would have thought that from a CFK appointee? Just about everybody of the 63.8% of the population WHO DID NOT VOTE for this bunch of Peronista crooks.
I don't see the big deal about this news story. Politicians will be politicians the world over.
GALlamos
I totally agree with you. Innocent until proven guilty.
I used to think he was CFKC's 'bit on the side' but it is another chap.
* When a government minister gets the government's 'full support' in the UK they usually resign within a short time.
Try to keep on topic, there's a good boy.
So there's the proof! Two forms of embezzler (thief) in the argie government (?). The ones that have been caught out, and the ones that haven't.....yet!
Clutch at straws, distract and stir (CSDS)
My three last posts duplicate the words and methodology of British Turnip Poster, ElaineB at Post No.:5
It has rightly been called by other Britons as “clutching at straws”, “distracting”, “stirring” and “slandering another legal system with zero facts”.
Correct!.....That is precisely what ElaineB does all the time.
Now.................... commenting on the above article .....
Mr. Bodou is currently under judicial investigation.
If he is find guilty, I will be happy to see him be punished and dissapear into political oblivion.
If he is declared innocent, I will be happy to se him continue as Vicepresident.
Is that clear enough?
copied the style , even if quite realistic were just to show how easy it is to
Laughter.......Laughter.......UP*PX
It is everyone's fault but his. Notice how the Argentine govenment immediately try to undermine anyone criticising them? It must be the party M.O. If he has nothing to hide then he will happily allow the investigation to go ahead unhindered and without attacking the establishments charged with investigating.
This whole 'corruption' issue has to be seen from the perspective of Argentines. (Obviously, not all Argentines) In Buenos Aires, in particular, they imported a lot of their cultural attitudes from Southern Italy. There if anyone cheats the system, gets away without paying for something or makes some money on the side, the general attitude is 'good for you'. For some reason the social contract - if you take from society you have to give to society - just doesn't seem to exist.
So, from that perspective you can understand why most Argentines regard systemic corruption as something that is just a part of life. And why there is no shame or guilt attached to taking a bribe, cheating the system, or cheating other Argentines . There is no social pressure telling them is is unacceptable and that they are cheating society, their neighbours and fellow Argentines.
What are the two things that stop you commiting crimes. 1) Your conscience and 2) The fear of getting caught. If you don't feel guilty about stealing and you are unlikely to be prosecuted - and then if you have the money you can buy yourself out of trouble - there is no deterent.
From which source did you get the info about “ his wife 'turned him in”?
From Turnip poster No. (12), Mr. Chicureo, maybe???
How typical……………
The ”wife” in question here is the ex-wife of one of VP Bodou’s buddies and business associates who works for the man that owns a percentage of the printing company in question.
She denounced her husband in their bitter divorce case and mentioned to the judge that “something strange” was going on between her ex-husband and VP Bodou.
All of us that have been divorced a couple of times will recognize this scenario.
Please inform yourself before commenting.
You had once some academic standards ………….. Where did you misplace them?
#12 Yes just like when the Vice-President of North Korea came under pressure from the anti-governmnet press!
#16 My opinion of you just keeps going down
#24 You don't have to like him or personally want him to be in a government position, but if he's innocent then surely that personal opinion of yours shouldn't trump the fact he was elected?!
Re the “his wife turned him in” rumour on here, see Chris Huhne of the UK Cabinet =)
Politicians are corrupt. Next news item - water is discovered to be wet!
When you are this high up in the current gov't you don't have cases brought against you unless you fall out of favor. The courts are used to bully, embarrass, bankrupt or ruin someone of this stature. Boudou must have fallen out of favor or made someone even higher than him really mad.
If you had left this nugget out you might even have sounded midly dispassionate.
It would appear your functioning judiciary cannot deter criminality, how many shootings this week in the land of Perfect? 3? 5? (the one in the college, the one in the beach, another one somewhere else... like 14 people blown away, par for the course).
I wonder if we had a functioning judiciary then, we'd have no crime I'd imagine.
Forget the Clinton impeachment which surely was an impartial and non-political process. :)
56/66 almost at the bottom of the scale....
You look like an idiot trying to compare the USA to Argentina, compare yourself to Paraguay or Bolivia so it will make you look superior instead of much worse.
The ire of somebody else's wife spraying it about in her divorce does not of itself condemn the VP.
The evidence may condemn him - perhaps when we see it, we, along with the judge, may then condemn him.
Laughter......Laughter......GTEWK
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
Gracias Cristina y Nestor.......oh and thanks too Boudou!!
I have read this report but can only say you are wasting your time with the Argies. The roport was written for the WJP and fronted by the 'dastardly' US who have stabbed Argentina in the back over exports!
You KNOW the Mad Bitch will be apoplectic over this. :o)
don't forget this video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4qTbg9KkE
Respect
Poland is already represented in G-20 as a member of EU.
Interestingly there are no Malaysia..Thailand..Ukraine..Egypt ..in this group.
QUOTE: The controversy arose following statements made by the ex-wife of Ciccone executive Alejandro Vanderbroele to the effect that Boudou was his silent partner in the firm. Pursuant to prosecutor Carlos Rívolo's request and following news that the Puerto Madero condominium rented by Boudou was owned by a friend of Vanderbroele who had, moreover, borrowed funds from Boudou, Judge Daniel Rafecas ordered the residence searched for proof of business associations between Vanderbroele and the vice president; a receipt for one month of homeowner association dues owed by the condominium's owner, Fabián Carosso, and paid instead by Vanderbroele was located in the search on April 4. UNQUOTE
or am I wrong
That clarifies la weaa weon....
What I am tired of is foreigners here judging Argentine cultural traits.
In the USA the justice system is a joke, there's been cases of judges sending people to prison simply because it made their buddies at correctional institutions money. Cases of police completely botching even basic cases (remember the baby case a year or two ago), now look at this case with the black adolescent killed, all the evidence was tampered with. Seriously??
Besides the fact that everyone knows that in the USA, if you are black you are locked up, if you are not you walk (it seems even “hispanics” benefit from this). Last but not least, it is a justice system that goes to the highest bidder: if you have cash, belong to the gentrified class or your crime is “silk glove crime” instead of “latex glove”, judges will be far more lenient on your sentences.
I'm not comparing Argentina to the USA. What I am doing is casting on opinion on other countries, just like it seems all kinds of foreigners on this thread make comments on argieland. Or can you all say what you wish on us but us not on you? :)
As for the “culture” debate, I just love the sheer pathetic“ness” of all of you. “Argie” culture this, argie culture that...
All you guys do is point fingers and forget you just cleaned your noses with it.
There is a saying “What is a life worth that is not worth living?” ...
For all the all-mighty loftiness about “anglo-saxon” culture, or northern European, the fact is suicide and depression rates are off the charts in your countries compared to other regions. If your system is so wonderful, why so many kids blow their brains out to get out of it?
Pretty sinister culture if you ask me.
Pot-kettle-black-
Is it not true that most if not all countries suffer corruption at some time?
All throwing mud will do, is make a nasty brown mark, would it not,
This mans life, is of no concern to me, and probably has no effect on Britain or the British Falklands.
Nowt interest .
.
Argentina continues to deteriorate under re-elected President Christina Fernandez de Kirchner into a tinhorn republic with stooge ministers and national accounts not reputable enough to appear in the Economist’s statistical tables.
Well, that's life. If you don't like how Argentina is run, what it does, and its corruption, no one is forcing you to deal with it. Let us deal with it.
The Falklands are safe under British administration.
Chile is safe with a solid army and an Argentina that has unilaterally disarmed.
Brazil is safe as a rising power.
Uruguay is safe with it's increasing international reputation.
UK/Europe is safe as Argentina is half a planet away.
USA is safe as they remain a military superpower.
We don't care about foreigners opinions, whether Forbes, Economist, El Pais, Folha, or individuals!! It's not your country!!!
You have ruined Turnip ElaineB fairy-tale by telling the truth!
Dont you know that Turnips are supposed to stick together?
What a Turnip!
Who rattled your cage?
You may “always believe in telling the truth”.... but you do not always follow your beliefs.......
I still remember one of your comments with an outrageous high “Medialunas” price example.......
At those prices you mentioned, I seriously considered closing my humble shed in Patagonia and opening a Panaderia in Buenos Aires to become el “Bill Gates de la Factura de Grasa”....
A quite useful thumb-rule Italians use to find out where their compatriots originate from is to look at the last letter of their surnames.
If the surname ends with a ”A”, ”E” or ”I” they are generally from the North /Center of Italy
If the surname ends with a ”O”or ”U” they are generally from Sardinia, Sicily or the South of Italy.
Videla, Massera, Agosti, Viola, Lambruschini, Bignone or Galtieri, would be typical North Italian surnames........................
But……You should know that……... Some of them were “Friends” of you.
Or wasn’t that you that co-signed that 1982 letter to her Majesty the Queen asking her to “listen” to Galtieri and consider the interests of the Anglo-Argentines?
PS:
The vast majority of the Italians from La Boca area where originally from the province of Genova.
That’s why they were called Xeneises, a misspelling of Zeneises (Meaning “Genovese” in local dialect)
And, as some of us know, Genova lies in Northern Italy.
Google it!
Educate yourself Mr. Lough……
Aren’t you 8th or 9th generation Argentinean?
And still you know so little about your own Country!
Argentinian Vice-president accused of embezzlement???? ( didn't see that one coming, did we?? )
Everyone in the Argentinian government backing their corrupt colleague?? well, if one goes down you can bet he'll start singing like a canary!!!
And I find that “Think” is doing what he does best and that is not thinking at all!! he can hardly post a comment without mentioning “Turnips”.... desist your spam javalin son!!! you'll go blind ( and I bet you already wear glasses!! )
All together now “The more things change, the more they stay the same!!”
What, too carry on Laundering money? and for who?
Inimidating witnesses? on whos orders?
Destroying Evidence? too protect who?
and the usual Argentine habit too continue lying? FOR WHO?
He goes down they all go down.
Thanks for your frank answer. I take your word for it.
I apologize for ripping into a long forgotten past.
It was that stupid ElaineB’s comment.
Passive ignorance does irritate me.
But active ignorance kills me.
Like l said once before, Tim.
You would be walking a tightrope where you are.
An unenviable position.
The point is that there is a very high level of corruption in Argentina and always has been and nobody does anything effective about tackling it. Nothing for a country to be proud of. It doesn't really matter where its come from. To focus on another posters possible error is to distract from the issue of the article. You seem to do this alot.
You should write a book about all those Anglo-Argentinean stories that you and your family have been an integral part of, since 1806……
You could title it: ”9th generation British Invader” or something.......
But please, please, please…….. Abstain from any Turnipy intent of blaming the Italian, Spanish, German, British or Armenian communities for the sorry State of our Nation……….....................
Everybody knows that it is the Polish who are to blame!
(Let's see “how freeely” you can tell that to La Polaca, ol' fart ;-)
PS:
I really mean the first paragraph…………
Puglisi...from Scilia......
Capellani....from Sardegna...
Fornarini...from Toscana...
Falconetti ......from Fiuli...
Bisacco ......from Venetto..
Martinetto ....from Lombardia....
Gorresio .....from Piemonte...
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I think some people has
0--80 % SOC( state of charge) ..230 VAC /14 A
here.................
Where do your family come from?(you can tell lies if you like! Sr Think does it all the time!)
1830’s…………, Huhhhhh…..
Approximately same point in time as the Swedish branch of my Clan arrived to Perú’s coasts to shovel some bird droppings onto ships.
Thus assisting humankind into killing each other more efficiently.
Not sure about the precise date though………………..
Should have a look at the piles of paper the old, lazy geezers left behind in Iquique.
Anyhow……
That you, every now and then, write sh*t about the “Malvinas Issue” doesn’t mean that you are a shitty writer.
Try, eventually, with a ghost writer…......
He/She could also be instrumental at filtering out some of the worst “English Haughty”, “Gorilla Bias”, and other “Monkey Business” of those, otherwise, indubitably precious anecdotes and stories………
So your relations were in the Peruvian guano trade, were they?
ln the 19th century? Mmmmm, interesting.
That was when the Peruvians were capturing slaves from Polynesia, from Easter lsland to work the guano mines.
Where they were worked until they died.
Anything to do with your kinfolk, oh haughty Think?
Very easy to answer your questions by free using Internet sources.!
You seem to be a fairly unimpaired minded woman who likes viejos verdes and with lots of idle hours to kill…………..
Wouldn't it be a job for you to help Mr. Tim on writing his “Mémoires” ?
I see 'I don't Think' thinks that by changing the subject and throwing in some personal abuse, people won't think he does not want to tell the truth.
But we all think the opposite of 'I don't Think' because we KNOW WHAT HE IS LIKE!
What do think, Isolde? :o)
Yes, it was always “kind of difficult” to get good jornaleros around Iquique.
Until 1907.....
I knew it was only a matter of time before you mentioned “Turnips”......
I would really, REALLY love to read something fresh and original from you, but all I get is “Turnips”
Come back when you actually have something to say.....
God how he must hate us!(or me!)lol♥
lts like poking a tiger with a stick through the bars! lol.
Not that l'd ever do that to one of God's creatures.
Well, oh haughty king turnip, were your relations in the Peruvian slave trade or not?
Mind you it was a good 40 years AFTER the British had abolished it.
But anything for a kroner or two, eh Think?
@81ChrisR,
Chris,
Thats a classic Think tactic.
Sometimes it works.
Think could teach Sun Tzu(think thats how you spell it)a thing or two!
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