IOC criticizes Argentina for involving the Games with politics and Falklands’ dispute
The International Olympic Committee, IOC, criticized on Friday an Argentine television spot that links the London Games to Argentina's sovereignty dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands, calling it a blatant attempt to use the games for political purposes.
The IOC sent a letter to Argentina's national Olympic committee denouncing the ad, which reasserts Argentina's claim to the Falklands/Malvinas.
The ad shows the field hockey captain Fernando Zylberberg training for the games by running through the capital of Stanley. The strap line says: “To compete on British soil, we train on Argentine soil”.
The 90 seconds spot is endorsed by the Argentine Presidency.
“The Olympic Games should not be a forum to raise political issues and the IOC regrets any attempts to use the spotlight of the games for that end,” the IOC said in a statement to a news agency.
“We are in contact with the Argentine NOC ... and we have been reassured on a number of occasions that the NOC will not seek to use the games as a political platform and will fully respect the Olympic Charter,” the IOC said.
Argentina's Olympic Committee declined to comment and referred calls to the government. Argentina's foreign ministry also declined to comment on the IOC letter.
Also Friday, the agency that created the advertisement condemned its own commercial. Advertising agency Young & Rubicam apologized for the ad created by its agency in Argentina, saying the spot was deeply offensive to people around the world and to the Olympic spirit.
“We strongly condemn this work and have asked the Argentine government to pull the spot,” it said in a statement Friday, adding that the ad's creators “behaved in a manner that is unacceptable” to the company.
Argentina is one of more than 200 countries sending teams to the London Olympics, which run from July 27 to Aug. 12.
“The IOC has always striven to separate sport from politics and honour the spirit of the games and all those who take part,” the IOC statement said.
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Good advice John.
The government have cut all the imports, expropiated the biggest company in the country, and is cuting in every front the ties with every country in the world with the exception of a few “selected” ones.
Take all your investments out of Argentina, Stop buying anything produced in Argentina. Dont pay attention and do not give any more press to this government. Ban Argentina of the olimpic games.
Its the only way this regime will dry out of money for handouts and their own pockets and that 54% that voted it will have to start working for a living.
Argentina is wrong in using the olympics, but you deal marked cards and condemn when people cheat...
I feel a bit sorry for the athlete concerned as he will probably still be queueing up at Heathrow arrivals when everybody is queueing up to catch the flight back home.
A bit of interesting news regarding Alicia being on the Murnaghan show this Sunday to explain her view of things. It should be fascinating to see what he makes of it. I hope he doesn't give her an easy ride.
Argentina has shown that the entire nation are lowlife scum who don't deserve statehood, let alone control of foreign territories.
@13 - Guzz, unlike the Argentinian government, Britain knows how to act on the world stage. All Argentina can do is screech at the top of it's voice. When they realise no one's listening they pull pathetic stunts like your feeble excuse for an Ambassador did in London, and your feeble excuse for a government has done here.
Now your government (and I say your government Guzz 'cos everyone knows your are a La Campora troll trying to pretending to be Urugayan), has pissed off yet another international body, to add to its growing list.
If Argentina is stupid enough to try to make some political gain by a demonstration at the Olympics, you'll find yourselves out on your ears, banned from attending international sporting events until your government learns what is, and is not acceptable at international events.
But of course it won't be Argentina's fault will it? No people like your corrupt government could never hold up their hands and say, 'sorry, we went a bit too far,' no you'll blame Britain, and you'll blame 3,000 innocent people who want nothing to do with your corrupt government and it's Nazi policies.
I cannot believe it ! the IOC ( controlled by the usual so called best democratic people in the world ) supporting pirates?.
Take it up with Dr Gerardo WERTHEIN, you FOOL
Home > The IOC > Members > Dr Gerardo WERTHEIN
www.olympic.org/dr-gerardo-werthein
your ancestors a bit rich to go on about colonyists isnt it?
until 1982 the military presence was 20 odd royal marines even during the invasion the ARGS showed there incompetance by turning at changeover and ending up facing double the number:)
Argentine military to protect Antarctica
news.ninemsn.com.au/world/594076/argentine-military-to-protect-antarctica
As if Argentina's cowardly little 'military' even has the wherewithal to defend a beehive, let alone an entire continent :)
This is essentially what happened. Absolutely nothing.
The UK doesn't need to do anything other than issue a statement regarding this since Argentina is doing itself a world of damage.
And if Argentina seeks to take any further action around the Olympics either it shouldn't be allowed to compete or if at a later stage its athletes should be sent home in disgrace.
However, defiling a war memorial is truly scum like behavior.
Actually, you know this is really all just a conspiracy on the part of Argentina to get themselves excluded from the Olympics. They can't afford to send a team to London; so, rather than admit that, they are working on trying to spin a story in which the whole world ganged up on the poor little fairy fascist state and prevented them from attending. They failed and will now have to find another implausible excuse :)
www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_antarctica/geopolitical/treaty/
An Guzz, since you can't win your arguments over the Falkland Islands you resort to normal 'Argtard' behaviour, and begin insulting the people that live there.
Tell me Guzz, if Argentina's claim to sovereignty is so legal, why have their government consistantly refused to take the issue to the International Court of Justice?
The answer is that all your claims to sovereignty are based on lies. The Argentine government in 1850 signed a treaty with Britain recognising that the Falklands were British, and since the inception of the UN (Argentina was a founding member of this organisation), the right to self-determination trumps all other arguments.
But back to the story, the IOC are warning the Argentine government here. I truly believe that Argentina's own National Olympic Committee didn't know about this advert, which probably means that they won't know if your increasing erractic government are going to politicise the Olympic Games themselves. If Argentina does that, the international ramifications would be severe.
Oh, but I forgot, you don't need the world do you? You can live off beef and soy beans for the rest of your lives! Failing that China will come and save you!
Pathetic!
Which is basically the definition of an Argtard anyways.
on a different note, i think that the video is an own goal. aside from being offensive, what really stands out in it is the way Port Stanley looks so English, so neat, so well cared for, so peaceful.
“Control and management of your own natural resource is crucial for a countrys survival. For 600 years, South America hasn't had the chance to do this, no more excuses”
You going to let what's left of the natives have control of their natural resources then Guzz?
well you hypocritical colonial scum?
When you government finally grows up and starts taking responsibility for it's own actions, when you stop constantly looking back and instead begin to look forwards, once you finally put a stop to the systemic corruption of your political classes, then you will have a bright future.
But what does Argentina do? They blame everyone but themselves for how the country is. Argentina is nearly 200yrs old, yet you still blame Europe for all your ills!
It's about time Argentina grew up as a nation, and started behaving responsibly to their own people and on the world stage. And if Argentina makes a mockery out of the Olympic Games this summer, it will be the final nail in the coffin for any support over anything, let alone the Falklands, because not only will you be disrepecting the spirit of the Olympics, you will disrespect every nation who participates.
Classic! Argentinians running the only way they know: AWAY, under cover of darkness, like shit off a shovel :)
May 05th, 2012 - 04:13 am
If we remove any defences Argentina will invade. No question about it. So no. Go forth and multiply you spineless fraction of an excuse for a human sub species and crawl back under your rock.
You think? Britain would be doing the world a favour if it experimented with its nuclear weapons on worthless Argentinian lives, don't you think? If only there were a way to protect the few remaining indigenous people who haven't yet been ethnically cleansed by the unscrupulous colonisers who still subjugate them and seek to eradicate them from a one beautiful land.
May 05th, 2012 - 09:47 am
We don't need more troops but you could probably make good use of a full frontal labotamy and a bit of clinical psychology.
Sorry, I was just trying to embrace British behaviour... I'll get it soon, don't you worry
By the way, how big is a big weapon, lets say 2-handed? And whats the difference in auto and semi-auto,
I don't know if this is down to your personal psychology or a product of your Malvinista indoctrination though and I have to admit, I am no expert.
@20 SIUYJ - you highlight the hypocrisy and double speak of the RG government which we deal with...
I got a question for a brit military stationed in the Malvinas.. How does a sheep sound like? Beeeeeeeeeh, or Meeeeeeeeh? Just of curiousity, and to know you better...
The Falklands will grow and they will prosper, with your co-operation or without it, it makes no odds. In less than 200 years the population has grown by 100x. At that rate, 200 years from now, discounting inward migration, that figure will be 300,000.
They will be rich, fiercely independent and at the rate things are going, utterly hostile to Argentina.
Argentinian attitudes could change that outcome or you could continue as you are, offering yourselves up onto the alter of sacrificial throbberdom.
It is your choice, fill yer boots. We could'nt give a toss either way.
Some facts for you!
1- The Islands have been financially self-supporting since approx 1880 - that is for the last 132yrs.
2- The Islands population is increasing and our economy and international financial reserves have been increasing for many years now.
3- The numbers of British military uniformed personel in the Islands hac been gradually DECREASING for many years.The % of those who are married accompanied miltary staff has been gradually inc reasing for many years.
Oh and on this topic of the Advert and Olympics- we have got huge international positive publicity from it- meanwhile Argentina has scored an own goal!
Well done them.
Come on and be reasonable. When did you ever see an Argentinian scumbag arguing on the basis of facts? They are the biggest bunch of revisionists in the history of the human species .. they just make up whatever 'facts' they think will be useful to their tragic attempts at manipulating opinion.
''look at me mummy look meeeeeeee''
The problem with the Argentinian government is that they never think long term. It's always the quick fix.
I don't get my way at the OAS summit, so I'll steal an international company. The UN won't listen to us, so we'll get our Ambassador to humilate herself by speaking inappropriately to the wrong person at the wrong venue.
No one is listening to us, so we'll make a propaganda advert, and to ensure we really upset people, we'll defile a war memorial.
That one act, in that commercial, has outraged countries all around the world. It is considered the most despicable thing that can be done. It shows the world the contempt that the government of Argentina has to those who fought and died for their country, the contempt the Argentine government has to decency, and the contempt that the Argentine government have for the people of the Falklands.
Yup this advert has got to be classed as one of the biggest 'own' goals in history. Well done CFK!
As to colonisation, you should know a lot about that. You claim to be Uruguayan, so if that's correct, tell us all about the original inhabitants, the Charrua. Presently, in Uruguay, pure blood Amerindians are practicaaly non-existant, with just 8% of the national population being mestizo (people with mixed Spanish and indigneous blood). That's right...88% of your population is white...which probably means you haven't been living in Latin America the last 600 years....who knows, Guzz, maybe your European ancestors arrived after a number of the Falklanders settled on their islands....that would not be a surprise, especially as many Europeans (like the families of Timmerman and Kirchner) settled in South America in the 20th century...so get off your high horse, and stop being a total foolish hypocrit.
And well done International Olymoic Committee for Argentina in its place as regards that foolish advertisement. Also well done Young and Rubicam for apologising for your agencies role in making of this advertisement.
As for Argentina, I again feel sorry for the many decent people who do live there and must feel absolutely ashamed and frustrated by the antics of Kirchner's government and her supporters. Argentina' s reputation is becoming an complete joke thanks to these fools, including Guzz's La Camporist and Malvinista comrades.
After killing all their men, they dispersed all the survivors, splitting families in order to kill the culture as a whole.... They managed, charrua language is practically extinct, and the only thing that remained is the spirit...
If you check Frente Amplios flag and ideology, you will find out that we are the followers of Artigas, and if you ever see a Colorado, tell him about his past, remind him... Never again
@1 JohnN
Agreed, although I think Mr Zylberberg will get a worm welcome from the crowd.
@44 Guzz
The only reason Argentina wants Britain to De-militarise the S Atlantic, is so they can Re-militarise it with their forces, and steal our resources there and in Antarctica.
It’s not rocket science, you have run out of S America to “conquer” from the Indians, and are now trying to take British territory in the S. Atlantic/Antarctica.
However unlike Atahualpa, the British have more than just bows and arrows with which to defend their territory.
And as you Criollo Conquistadors need to be contained in S. America, a British military presence is necessary in the region.
Guzz is not Uruguayo: he is a liar and an Argie. End off.
They are British subjects who live their freely. They can come and go as they please.
youre clearly fucked in the head if you believe that they are hostages. what a cretin.
Not all stories have a good end, therefor we will change the story, write history anew before it gets rewritten in both sentences...
We have done the math you see. If youguys live over your incomes, it means you need resources to cover you expenses, those Trillion you rich countries are adding to your accounts, are in the end, raw materials.
Material that you are stealing from the “3rd world”
The Falklander Islanders are a free people who choose their own way of life, and no tinpot little dictatorship like Argentina (yes Guzz you are Argentinian not Uruguayan everytime you post a blog it's so obvious you may as well be flying the Arg Flag), is going to bully them.
But your arguments are getting stale - same sh!t, different day. Are you weak from lack of food? Is the La Campora food parcel late today?
The Falkland Islanders have already agreed to hold a UN overseen referendum regarding sovereignty, but Argentian has ignored it. They've ignored it for 2 reasons:
1. They would have to recognised the government and people of the Falklands, and therefore their right to self-determination.
2. They can't rig the election in their favour.
So Guzz, crawl back under the rock where you normally dwell, and don't come out until you've got something to add this discussion regarding the Argentine government flagrant politicisation of the Olympics.
Aw never mind.
No-one can trust the Argentine Government. The country is languishing in the red at 100th place in the Worldwide Corruption Index of nations.
The Beagle Islands dispute with Chile is another fine example when Argentina refused to abide to a binding order awarding the Islands to Chile and set up a maritime boundary consistent with Argentine claims.
This is why we have an adequate defence force on the Falkland Islands.
When Argentina say we won't invade the Falkland Islands, so you don't need any military forces there, what they actually mean is: Once your military has left, we'll invade, terrorise the population, and ethnically cleanse them, steal the resources, and then mismange them into bankruptcy.
They must honestly think that the British and Falkland Island Governments have just got off the banana boat!
The Argentine President lives in cloud cuckoo land, surrounded by yes men, so she'll ignore what her own people are saying and what the interantional community are saying, and ensure that they do 'something' to politicise the Games. Of course, she'll only shoot herself in the foot again, leaving Argentina with more egg on their face.
But it won't be her fault, it's NEVER her fault...
So as I told you from the start, looking at your actions, I'm more worried of you guys, YOU send military, YOU invade sovereign nations, YOU pay puppet leaders, YOU make a whole society blood dependant of yourselves...
Since when have the British tortured, murdered and raped people all over the world? Where is your EVIDENCE?
I also love it when you say 'Argentina didn't invade the Falklands, that was the facist Junta.' You talk about the Junta like they were a group of martians who invaded Argentina and did all these terrible things. They were not martians, they were Argentinians, and the things they did were in the name of Argentina, whether you like it or not. But you must also remember that the majority of the population of Argentina celebrated that illegal act of violence when the Falklands were invaded.
By this complete disassociation with atrocities committed by your fellow countrymen, whether it be the 'Dirty War' or the invasion of the Falklands, shows how immature as a people you are, and how unlikely you are to learn from history.
Accept responsibility for the actions done in YOUR name. Remember them and learn from them. There is no country in the world that doesn't have something in their past that they're not proud of, but they don't pretend it didn't happen or that it was 'someone else' not associated with their country.
Oh and a final point. The reason Argentina hasn't invaded anyone is because your military hasn't the capability to do so. But your neighbour Chile doesn't take the state of your military for granted, and so they keep their military strength up, because Argentine promises are only worth the paper they're written on.
But are you every going to comment on the subject of this thread. The Argentine governments blantant policisation of the Olympic Games?
@5 The situation doesn't require troops. ONE British soldier would be enough to make you RUN. And crap yourself!
@9 “Control and management of your own natural resource is crucial for a countrys survival.” Quite true. But you don't have a clue about control OR management. You only know how to loot. And the natural resources you have your greedy eyes on isn't yours. And never will be.
@11 There will be NO troop removal. As for “blood dependent”, who are you to talk? Have you noticed that you grunt a European “language”? Isn't CFK indecently proud of being 3rd generation Spanish? Doesn't mention her nazi forbears. What a shame!
@13 Yup. We're all going to spit and drown 'em.
@14 La CAMPora! Queers.
@17 Error! Thousands of nazi scumbags headed for South America. Shit always finds its own level.
@21 Military activity is prohibited in Antarctica. That's in a treaty. Sorry, I forgot treaties mean nothing to argies.
@25 One British soldier = 20 argies.
@34 Of course you wouldn't. Loser has to walk home. Despite the water.
@38 You'd know all about experimenting with peoples' lives. Auschwitz, Dachau, Treblinka, Petty Officers' School of Mechanics, the other 340 argie concentration camps, the vuelos de la muerte.
@59 But the Islanders WANT British forces there. It's only you retards “on the continent” that don't! As we in Britain know, living on a continent tends to make you retarded. But we, and the Islanders, live on islands and are therefore sane, intelligent, mature people.
@79 we will point our missiles where we like. But you ARE favourite at present.
@81 Quasi-semantic drivel. The “junta” were argies, were they not? Every argie is responsible. As is anyone from anywhere else that supports them. All just war criminals. Every one bears the blood guilt from birth to death. YOU are a war criminal.
Now Fuzzy Guzzy would have us believe that the 1982 invasion wasn't the act of Argentina and that it isn't reasonable to be suspicious of a 2012 murdering scumbag Argentine regime that is constantly trying to inflame a situation and to cap it all, no doubt in a gesture of friendship, desecrates war graves. Well, I think that shows just how cocaine-addled Guzz's pitiful excuse for a brain is.
It is like those scumbag two-faced swedes who claimed to be neutral during the war at the same time as selling the Nazis masses of weapons and supplying them with hundreds of millions tons of steel .. but you can't blame the swedes because they were 'neutral' and grew fat on the war.
To this very day Argentina is engaged in a systematic campaign of ethnic cleansing. Are you blaming that on the junta too? .. or that just a lie that the rest of the world tells when it gangs up on poor little defenceless Argentina in revenge for the fact that Argentina is happy to financially rape the rest of the world at every opportunity?
I've randomly scanned world opinion comments regarding the commercial on news sites in the WWW and came up with the following summary:
Western Europe: Very negative reaction against Argentina.
Eastern Europe: (Tass & Pravda) Somewhat negative reaction against Argentina.
Africa: (Except South Africa) Nothing
South Africa: Very negative reaction against Argentina.
India: Very negative reaction against Argentina.
Pakistan: Moderate reaction against Argentina with an appeal for dialogue.
S. Korea & Japan: Very strong condemnation of Argentina.
The USA: Moderate criticism to very negative against Argentina.
Canada: Very negative against Argentina.
Chile: Neutral, although they cover the YPF news and this fun article today in the El Mercurio: “Juez procesa a cinco funcionarios de la Cancillería argentina por fraude -- Los implicados participaron en una licitación de equipamientos para la Cumbre Iberoamericana que se desarrolló en 2010 en la ciudad bonaerense de Mar del Plata.”
EITHER- look on the official Islands Govet websites.
or if you feel they are lies!
LOOK it all up at the UN - as the UN recognizes UK as the “administering power ” over the islands as we are not yet fully independent, and the UK thus has to officially lodge with the UN copies of our Constitution, Law methods etc etc so that the UN can satisfy itself that there is full democracy and no apparent corrution in the government here.
I know FACTS and TRUTH are horrible things for some Argentines to accept - but it really will be better to learn them.
They are not your natural resources they are ours, yours are in S. America like you.
“Blood dependant”, is this the best you could come up with? Meaningless.
I'm shocked, you actually agree that Argentina was wrong to use the Olympics in its ill fated quest for the Falklands. I do believe you are on the 1st step towards towards re-integration back into normal society. Now I haven't read any of your subsequent posts as I've got a million jobs around the house to do but you've made my day.
It is pleasing to know that a truly world wide organisation has slapped down Argentina for its stupidity, Argentina is a lot smaller now than it was.
Well, it is Argentina's efforts to isolate the islanders into submission that would be to blame if there was a problem. At least under the junta there was free movement of people and trade to the mainland and children went to the mainland for education.
But the fact is that, aside from being unscientific illiterate nonsense, your banal drivel about 'blood dependency' just doesn't stand up to scrutiny .. and simply repeating it ad nauseum doesn't make it true.
Hola. Soy de Argentina y yo soy la hija de mi hermano, la madre de mi madre y me la prostituta fuera de la Estación Retiro. Mi nombre es Cristina Elisabet Fernández de Kirchner y todos los chicos de Argentina como yo.
There were millions of Argentinians celebrating on 2nd April 82 when ARGENTINA invaded the Falkland Islands. I don't remember any dessenting voices!
The present government of CFK and her cronies, although not strictly a junta, act like a junta and are surely but slowly turning Argentina into another Venezuala.
Remember Argentina is langishing 100th place in the Worldwide Corruption Index of nations and can't be trusted.
You've gained that losin' feeling,
Whoa, that losin' feeling,
You've lost that losin' feeling,
Now it's gone...gone...gone...wooooooh.
Cristina Fernandez is elected President of Argentina and Hugo Chavez is her equal in Venezuela, you, as a proper democrat, should respect that.
And stop showing us your lists, you make the lists, and them you point fingers. I have a list here that says that Britain is one of the most invasive nations in history...
We all have the list that shows that Argentina is the least trusted and most friendless country ever.
100th place in the Global Corruption Index. It's all about telling lies, being dishonest (especially about history), Can't be trusted.
Rank hypocrisy?
Cristina Kirchner is nothing but a demagogue whose bad governance shows she cannot even manage the economy of one of the richest nations on earth. The fact that she approved the making of this subterfuge video, deserves condemnation worldwide. CFK has “snatched defeat from jaws of victory” by upsetting the very neutral IOC.
Stop it! Every time someone says 'wind' I hold my nose and wait for another speech by Kirchner's saggy old whore
Somebody just sent me version of the advert with the ending adapted:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VetuOlwcmqU
Nice roads, nice house's, Union flag, Pub, Red Phone box etc.. Not like anywhere in Argentina.
I say keep playing on a loop as some other poster suggested. That way the Argentine populas will understand that the Islands are not theirs after all and perhaps begin to wonder why they have been told lies their whole life!
To be fair, Argentina hasn't actually had any sight of the mythical 'jaws of victory' since the UK offered joint sovereignty two weeks before old Peron croaked it – since then they've been too busy living up to the cowardly national stereotype and running hell for leather in the opposite direction with their collective saggy arse hitched up between their legs.
@107 JohnN
youtu.be/VetuOlwcmqU is pure genius .. although a better one would have had the cowardly little squirt hightailing i back to Argentina with a caption “An Argentinian doing what Argentinians do best”.
@92 So what exactly is keeping the Falkland Islanders on their homeland? Please list all the vile British control methods that stop them getting on a LAN Airlines flight and flying away. Or taking one of their many boats and sailing away. As for “militarisation”, British armed forces are there for ONE reason and ONE reason only. YOU! 41 million war criminals. And the proof is easy to find www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqwNsmzCbM www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EZx3f2y6Dk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTCLLSdz7h8
So much blood guilt. When will you start paying it off?
@94 we made a mistake in 1982. We could have eliminated 12,000 more with no problem.
@98 At least we are a NATION, unlike your scrofulous cuntry!
@102 There are over 41 million WAR CRIMINALS in argieland and nearby. Check back to those video clips. Every one a war criminal. Every one with bloody hands. And the same applies to every child that went through the argie brainwashing system and believes the same crap.
Argentina will have won more Gold medals than any other country on the planet because CFK and her Nazi Politburo will tell the gullible Argentine public that this has happened. And they will believe it.
Obviously ,Argentina does not prefer to use “ doping” for its athletess
unlike some other medal collector countries.!
I feel it would be nice to edit the video and show the runner with a Gurkha in fast pursuit with his kukri knife unsheathed right after showing the athlete on the war memorial steps... ...I know, too much...
#111 No, but if she knew how to manage public relations, she could have the world eating out her hand.
#117 That's right gullible Max. So you took the bait about the evil Argentine fisherman eating South Atlantic dolphins? Did it break your heart to hear about the Antarctic baby seals being clubbed to death by gaucho thugs? What about those illegal Argentine whale hunting vessels? But then again, you blindly follow your queen Cristina, so it makes sense.
Anyway, why do you object to them so? Can't you handle the fact that 71 countries come to play and that your own country can't get an invite for love nor money?
count / write the Olympic Games branches !
Sorry, but you are wrong. No matter how hard you try to troll with your drivel, the Commonwealth Games have nothing at all to do with the Olympic Games. In fact, they are even held two years out of sync with the Olympic Games and don't come under the governance of the IOC. It is a friendship games to which only members of the Commonwealth are invited.
I have to admit Malen that making a propaganda film to advertise your criminal acts to the world is a fairly amazing tactic, even for you.
And no-one is 'crying'. We are voicing the opinion that this ad is a disgrace, and we are entitled to have that opinion.
Just as you are entitled to change the subject to Libya everytime you're too ashamed of your own country to talk about it.
It's OK, we understand. In your position we wouldn't want to talk about Argentina either.
I said [ count/ write the Olympic Games brances ] not clack !
It's good to raise their international profile whilst others are trying to sweep their existence under the carpet.
Think, Max, Jizz/Guzz/Spazzer, MurkyThink and many many more are all sock puppets to the same halfwitted master.
Don't speak yourself ( @123)
count/write the Olympic Games brancess !
Well, if you meant something else, can I suggest that you write in English instead of your childish preschool gibberish. There is no such thing as 'Olympic Games branches' so if you can't improve on your incoherent Google prattle, can I suggest you do humanity a favour and sling your hook.
129 skåre
There are a few more like Kunt_Kichinerist the posts all have the same character posting them.
count/ write the Olympic Games branchs....!
I refer you to 131 above: if you want a reply, write in something that has a vague resemblance to the English/American/Commonwealth English languages (alternatively German, Norwegian, Danish, Swedish will also do if you can master any of those languages somewhat better in Google than you appear to be able to master English). I've grown bored with verbally incontinent dialect of gibberish.
Yes, they are all BY CONSENT, part of the United Kingdom.
Why aren't Quebec/British Canada seperately represented..?
Why aren't Catalan/Basque/Spain seperately represented..?
Why aren't Many States of USA seperately represented ..?
Why isn't Chubut seperately represented..?
...so many others....
Scotland/Wales/N.Ireland and England compete together as Team Great Britainin the Olympics. They individually compete in the Commonwealth Games (as does the Falklands Islands) and other eventts.
If Scotland choose to leave the UK in their referendum of 2014, they will then represent just themselves in the Olympics from that point on and like the Falklands Islands, have the self-determination of the people to control the countries destiny, respected by the UK as a whole.
in FIFA ...UEFA contests ?
The simple truth is that there are 4 persons debating using 9 different names, but the ignorance of two of them makes it disgustingly easy to sort out. Go take a warm bath and don't forget your meds...
Then,UEFA/FIFA recognize England/Wales/N.Ireland/Scotland as the sovereign free countries...don't they ? !
I meant Scotland/Wales/Northerm Ireland and England represent separately in other events (football, rugby etc)
I put the Falklands in brackets next to the Commomwealth Games as I know the Falkland Islands have competed in every games since 1982. They are also an affiliate of the International Cricket Council (protested against by Argentina).
True they are not a member of FIFA but that is due more to Argentinas influence in the organisation, not that the Falklands cannot apply.
What arg criminal acts are in the adv, other than that saying Malvinas are arg, the same way you say F. are british?? You can and we dont??
And last, if you want to cry, cry (Moria Casán dixit). I will always remember you of the important issues here, ex Libya, when you get to complain for not so important issues, at least for me.
That of the bus, makes me cry, imagine in such desolate place, only a bus, because it seems to be always the same, only a line, and needing to know its timetable, whether here we dont need to know that, not for trains either.at least where I live (suburbs of Bs As).
@144 - Max, what time is it?
It's time for you to stop being a pillock. The British invented the modern game of football, and to begin with the only people whole played it were from the home countries. Because it's such an great game, other countries started playing too, and that's where FIFA and UEFA started, but they had to join us (so to speak) which is why we still play as separate nations.
However, in case you missed it, we have the Football Association(FA) while other countries have the Football Association of Spain (for example).
We also play as separate nations for rugby and cricket, just some more great games we've invented.
And what great games have the Argentines invented?
However, Max back on topic. So just what do you think about El Presidente politicising the Olympics games?
What do you think of her jepardising Argentna's participation and threatening to ruin the dreams of all those Argentine athletes who have worked bloody hard for the last 4 years or more to earn a place at the games? All for a cheap political stunt which has caused damned near universal critism, not only for politicising the games but for defiling a memorial to those who died in world war 1.
Max, do you actually have any opinions of your own, or do you have to wait for A Campora central office to supply you with them?
@130 Same again!
@133 More gibberish!
@135 Even more gibberish!
@140 Because you're a prat!
@142 So?
@144 No. They are recognised as NATIONS. NATIONS in a UNION. Unlike argieland that is a totalitarian, dictatorial CUNTRY with provinces. These are MAJOR differences between the United Kingdom and the argie cesspit. But your chance of understanding is NIL. Because you are an argie retard!
here we dont need to know that, not for trains either.at least where I live
Dont blame you I wouldnt want to use your trains either
buenosairesherald.com/article/93449/once-train-crash-49-dead-at-least-600-injured
thats when you aint setting them alight
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13262090
Just 60 feet(18mtrs) away from that memorial is a full flight of concrete steps that he had just run all the way up - on film!!!
Sorry - that action on a very obvous War Memorial was 100%DELIBERATE - and all those doing it and filming it knew it.
The ambassador is a fool. She's just been made to look an imbecile in public. She'll say any old nonsense to make herself look less rubbish.
Same old... same old...
agreed
I think the whole incident is typical of RG mentality. Not unusual to see an RG running though. RG's are completely out of step with the rest of the world and are not what you'd describe as “normal”. Whole thing makes the skin crawl.
And also its official, movements in Argentina have begun calling on all Latin America to boycott London 2012.
That would be amazing.
www.taringa.net/posts/info/14723620/boicot-olimpico.html
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
gosh, you people are boring and shyte.
Well, maybe not Latin America, though I put the odds off Argentina boycotting London now at 15%, up from 5% before the IOC statement and from 0% before the infamous add.
So what difference does a boycott make? what does a boycott mean? You're going to not watch it on the TV?
Like seriously, you argtards are so boring and shyte.
Is it just me or are the comments on this site meant to be hilarious? I just read 108 comments and thought I had stumbled into the Goon Show.
Lies, lies, lies. Everyone is nice and warm, the country's debt is down to 40% of GDP, and AR still is one of the world's safest airlines. At what point does a shread of self-respect come in for you to stop the shameless fibs?
A boycott means making the UK rather unhappy that a country boycotted their games. You can say you won't care, you can say we don't matter, but fact is, even if a country like Burundi boycotts the games, it will get some attention specially at the opening ceremony.
Certainly Argentina doing so, since we send a sizeable delegation to games, will be what everyone talks about in the famous “Parade of Nations”.
I think it's up to 15.5% now.
It will matter, not one jot.
Why not....
Anyone want to be Spike? Guzz - where are you?
Well I'm happy it wont, as it is now up to 16%.
Boycotts however are very powerfully symbolic, like it or not. Of course, Argentina should always boycott the IOC, not just London. IOC: most corrupt organization in the world that is not a government.
· Albania
· Algeria
· Andorra
· Angola
· Antigua and Barbuda
· Armenia
· Australia
· Austria
· Azerbaijan
Seem OK to me.
Hint: it is not Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, or Austria (which is mainly a winter nation).
So have fun with your half empty A stage. And the A kicks it all off so it will be even more noticeable since most people after C or D just stop watching until their country goes.
:)
It's illegal in the FI to commit an act likely to cause a breach of the peace. And that's what your guy was doing.
And we don't need you to tell us what's important you patronising ignoramus.
lol your country is surounded by people who hate you, they've lived with your country on their doorstep, taking their land Formosa and Misiones annexing their islands Martin Garcia, killing their citizens (disidents), claiming their lands Picton Island, Chilean Border, Nades Ice Shelf, Chilean Antartica for decades.
I have 182 of them on my friends list and growing every day. Argentina and your crass nationalism stinks, everyone knows it but you.
You must be extremely uneducated to carry on like a bunch of fanatical morons, please continue, its already destroying your country, the decent people are leaving, soon all you will be left with will be Maximo Kirchiner and his mob. Enjoy being buggered by Maximo, he sure as hell looks like he will!
I'm not going to miss that, it'll be hilarious to laugh at them and see the tard-0-meter go off the chart.
Really? I know that not one of the Latin American countries is planning to boycott the London Olympics. Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia and Ecuador are all confirmed. (Check out the IOC website.) The only way Argentina will not attend is that your country does something incredibly stupid that really offends the IO Committee.
I just can't believe that CFK would be so stupid as there have been Argentine athletes training literally all their lives for an opportunity to compete. To take the opportunity to do so away from them would be a national Argentine disgrace.
Tobias, you cannot be serious.
Boycotting the olympics would prevent them having this to grasp onto in those cold months with no heating.
movements in Argentina have begun calling on all Latin America to boycott London 2012
That would be amazing
[No it would be very childish and immature ]
A boycott means making the UK rather unhappy that a country boycotted their games
[why would it bother us, ]
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We can laugh, but she's dangerous. She's gotten the USA State department to call the Islands “Malvinas” and she's bullied nations into supporting her country's claim over them.
It may appear that the US supports their claim but given Obama couldn't even remember “Malvinas” and called them the “Maldives” shows how serious that support really is.
They “helped” us the last time and I am confident they will do so again should the need arise.
When CFK threw a tantrum it was about events clearly published by the UK in advance (Williams search and rescue deployment and HMS Dauntless) then they expropriate YBF's Repsol shares and kick all the Repsol staff out before the matter is discussed in parliament before becoming law and approve an advert which they know would be offensive using a man who lied about being a war veteran to get onto the Falklands.
It seems the Argie governments moral compass has switched polarity. It's like they hit someone and then blame the person for being hit by them when the police arrest them.
My country is somewhat the same, we would probably secretly help, but its not 100% certain.
Another incredibly ignorant observation on what will be a public relations disaster for Argentina. All you're doing abroad is p*ssing of a lot of people who had little opinion before.
Sir Martin Sorrell “has condemned one of his advertising agencies for creating a TV commercial featuring an Argentinian Olympic athlete training on a war memorial on the Falkland Islands and called for it to be taken off air.” It is a nightmare for his company and makes fools of Argentines.
“Sorrell, the chief executive of the world's largest marketing group WPP, said he was appalled by the campaign and that his subsidiary had called for the Argentinian government to ban the commercial.”
By the way, I wish you what you deserve when your currency is devaluated. You'll have plenty of starches to eat, but that's about it...
Firstly, the ad was filmed by the Buenos Aires office of the company (seemingly without the knowledge of the Argentine Olympic commitee who referred all resulting complaints to the government) and have seen told to apologise for the offence caused (and most likely look for other employment).
Secondly, if you buy a car that is defective the car manufacturer can issue a recall to prevent harm being caused.
This advert only harms Argentina. Continued broadcasts or new ads of the same theme will just cause more damage and may well get Argentina removed from the Olympics. Pulling this ad is the best thing they can do but if they wish to continue there will be consequences that cannot be blamed on anyone else (although I'm sure CFK will try).
“Ms. Kirchner cuts an increasingly pathetic and lonely figure on the world stage, whose own demagoguery is now seriously damaging Argentina’s image. In brazenly politicising her country’s preparations for the Olympics she is clearly playing with fire, and any attempt to use the actual London Games for propaganda purposes will be universally met with the scorn and derision it deserves”
it's been seen around the world, best publicity the Malvinas ever got.
Now that is an excellent point, hadn't thought of that before.
Who would want to advertise their counrtry's so called superiority by filmimg an athlete? in front of the Globe Tavern
Basically if airfield is taken and reinforced by RG airforces, tomahawk would destroy airfiled and make unusable, then the same missle to blat the airforce bases in Rg land to deny air support for the islands. Then send in the Gurkhas to finish off the job. I dont do the article justice was very interesting, plus article on the mith of the RG's sinking HMS Invinsible another RG lie to help sooth feelings of utter humiliation.
Hows about the Team GB make their own Video too. Picture the scene............The GB synchronised Swimming team all water dancing around the wreck of the General Belgrano..........At the end in big bold letters the motto...............Team GB.............To learn to swim like a fish..............one needs to know what fish eat!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think we need to worry for several reasons.
1. Argentina haven't got any assets to invade with.
2. The Typhoons stationed there could blow any ship out of the water and any aircraft out of the sky.
3. There are over a thousand troops on the island. Last time 70 Royal Marine's with a handful of RN personnel kept the Argentine's best troops pinned down, and only surrendered when the Argentines brought in artillery. So how tough a time do you think they'll have against 1,200 members of the Armed Forces.
4. There may or may not be a nuclear sub tooling around the South Atlantic (no one but Fleet knows for sure), and all it took last time was the sinking of one ship and the Argentine Navy was paralysed.
5. HMS Dauntless could destroy the entire Argentine Airforce single handedly.
So I think the Falklands are safe from Impotent Argentine threats.
And if they did somehow succeed in taking the Islands, well see post 200, cLOHO, spells it out nicely, except it wasn't mentioned that the Argentine troops would be facing battle-hardened troops. The Gurkha's, Paras and the Royals would all love to have another crack at the Argies, should they ever be so stupid to try this again.
Thanks for the link Steve :-)
#196 The Argies are in such a poor state of military readiness, they’d be challenged just to invade Punta del Este…
LEPRecon I read your post in the Telegraph this morning. I wish I could buy you a drink here in Chile. In any case, Cheers!
(With respect, one correction: The HMS Dauntless could destroy the entire Argentine, Brazilian and Chilean Airforce single handedly. (Of course, Chile and Brazil are not dim-witted like our neighbor…)
#201 Great link
Bravo to Nile Gardiner for his excellent article in the Telegraph!
Unfortunately the Telegraph web-site is crawling with La Campora trolls, so I felt I just had to try and put the record straight.
While I agree that HMS Dauntless could do as you say, Brazil and Chile are governed by reasonable people who just want to live in peace. It's a pity Argentina won't give them any.
In 1978 Argentina came very close to annihilating Chile’s southern fleet. We had practically no air defense. When I entered as a midshipman in the mid-80’s the national objective was to never allow that to happen again. (Similar to the U.K.) Today, we could easily simultaneously annihilate Peru, Bolivia and Argentina’s forces as well as secure strategic areas without serious concerns of a counterattack. We have a good military, but the truth is that Argentina has a terrible-poorly equipped-corrupt one. (Currently at least two of their German frigates are inoperable as their Rolls Royce turbans were grossly poorly maintained.)
Thankfully there is a “silver lining” to this disgrace. All the Argentine “bridge-building” by CFK to Falklands community has been completely destroyed. I doubt we’ll see another Falklands marathon with Argentines being invited.
Cristina, with her thuggish nationalization of YPF, her rabid encouragement of the La Campora attacks against European offices in Buenos Aires and the continued use of a crazy mad cow ambassadress only serves to hurt them. (It will destroy their economy as well.)
Twenty years from now, the citizens of the Falklands will probably have a similar status of the Channel Islands with the highest per capita income in the world. Argentina, will continue to be the country that could have been great, but instead choose to continue in their Peronist nightmare of corruption and chaos…
The way things are going the IOC may have no choice but to ban Argentina from the games.
I have a suspicion that this is exactly what CFK wants. Yet another distraction, while she can wail about how the evil 'pirates' conspired to have the poor innocent Argentina banned.
Of course the one's to truly suffer will be the Argentine athlete's who have been preparing for years for this event.
If they don't get banned then, I've no doubt that El Presidente is hatching some plot to disrupt the games. But if she does, it will be the final nail in the coffin for the Argentines on the international stage.
Serves them all right if they get the ban-hammer, training or no. Might teach them some respect.
I can bet on he 'llwrite an article to his paper about the gophers !
Old Headline - Argentine govenment fall out with UK
“ ” with USA
“ ” with Spain
“ ” with EU
Same old stort from the Nazi Comedians working within the Argentine politburo.
The whole world is laughing at Argentina.
The same idiot seems to be on a much higher level of sedatives to treat his Schizophrenia this morning, but really do we have to be again subjected to more of his hallucinations, bizarre delusions, and disorganized thinking?
Please don't feed the cretin attention which is what he thrives on.
@167 Don't worry about it. We'll explain that the arseholes were persuaded to stay away. How persuasive do you find the Rapier and Starstreak missiles? They'll be aimed at your lot!
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Sorry for the cow shite to follow, but
Moo….moo…mooo!
The mad cow ambassadress, Alicia Castro is reported in the Telegraph today as trying to pull Argentina's immediate neighbors into the dispute, claiming UK diplomatic and business relations could be damaged if the islands were not handed over to Buenos Aires.
She said Las Malvinas would be better off if they cut their ties with the UK. Argentines would send teachers to the islands to teach Spanish, but did not want to change the way of life“ insisting the islands had to be ”given back to Latin America as a whole“. The MC Castro is quoted ”Is it rational that a small community, in the name of very particular wishes and interests, are against any dialogue?
“Does it make sense that because they are not regarding the interests of the 60 million British people, they are not regarding the interests of the 30 million people in Argentina and they are not regarding their best interests, which would no doubt be better preserved if they were linked to the continent?”
Moo….moo…mooo!
What a waste of resources having her in London focussing so much energy on a dead rubber when she could be doing something worthwhile for Argentina. Oh well, who cares? Keep it up MC, your mad cow boss will love you for it. Until you ultimately fail that is. Make hay while the sun shines girl! LOL!
#225 The IOC is a slow as a turtle regarding political sanctions. The CFK government would have to do something really stupid and repeatedly after being warned. I hope they just stop this as ther are a lot of young athletes that have dedicated their lives to this opportunity.
We train in argentine soil...to be destroyed in english soil:)
I wonder if the IOC would object to a new anthem for these games:
All together now……… cue music……… and…..
Don’t piss us off Argentina
You are forgetting
What happened last time
We kicked your asses
And if you push us
We’ll be quite happy
To play a rematch
Have I said too much?
There's nothing more that I can think of to say to you.
But all you have to do is look at me to know
That every word is true
'As usual, it is about the papers again.
The men, mostly those white men — also again, also as usual — have official papers upon which they have written their rules and their laws and their treaties. They are very sorry, but it is all there on the papers.
The Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy have papers, too, but those are no good. It is a shame and everyone is very sorry, but those papers are meaningless. Please stop showing us your quaint, useless papers.'
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“Shame on the OIC for using our Olympian as ponds in a political war”
Typical argentinian hypocracy, they make a film which makes political capital out of the olympics, then when reprimanded accuse the IOC of using their Olympians as ... newts?
Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.
In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.
Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.
Do any RG trolls have a brain or is everything scripted for them? surely they know what they are writing is utter rubbish.
Humiliated Trolls get a job, hand the food parcels back and have some decency.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSlyQp9NAoM
#69 What an amazing story, the definatve answer I think to the slander of Indian genocide against the Latin American LEFT
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