Confirmed: Cristina Fernandez will attend C24 meeting on Falklands next June 14
President Cristina Fernandez will be attending next June 14 the UN Decolonization meeting in New York where she is expected to make a strong case for Argentina’s claim over the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands.
Cabinet Chief Juan Manuel Abal Medina confirmed to the Senate that the Argentine president will attend the event where “she expects a strong definition in terms of advancing in the path of dialogue and reaching an agreement to recover our Malvinas Islands”.
The Argentine leader had already anticipated the trip to the UN C24 annual meeting last March during her ‘state of the nation’ speech to Congress.
“We can’t allow colonial enclaves to continue existing in the XX century, currently there are 16 of them and that is why next June 14, I will personally attend the UN Decolonization Committee” she said at the time.
President Cristina Fernandez demands that the UK comply with UN Resolution 2065 which calls on both sides, Buenos Aires and London to open negotiations to resolve the sovereignty issue of the Falklands/Malvinas.
This year is very special since it is the 30th anniversary of the Falklands conflict which started with the invasion of Argentine forces to the Islands on 2 April 1982, until they were expelled 74 days later by a British Task Force sent by then PM Margaret Thatcher to recover them.
The day the Argentine forces surrendered unconditionally to the Task Force, which became Liberation Day and the most important day of the Islanders calendar is precisely June 14, when this year’s UN Decolonization Committee will be hearing presentations from Argentina and the Falkland Islands.
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I didn't see any such insults being levelled at Argentine war dead. You're losing it. First you go on and on pointlessly about pedophilia. I ask Mercopress to remove a post of yours- and they did- in which you intimate that Falkland Islanders have sex with sheep, and then you go crazy and start imagining that we've all been disrespecting Argentine war dead. Stop acting like a spoilt school boy who isn't getting his way.
Eeerrrmmm, back in 1982, wasn't UN Resolution 501 passed calling for the uncondisional withdraw of Argentine forces from the Falkland Islands???
Did the Argentines comply with that?
You've got a snowballs chance in hell of the UK complying with 2065 love..........
You know I had forgotten about the sheep comment, OK my apologies about that if that was the reason my post was removed.
But my statement stand. The comments clearly and univocally state “hispanics” (though I don't recognize such a group exists), are spineless cowards. It is a completely logical syllogism to conclude that extends to any war dead of that so-called ethnicity.
I never thought you people would level such humiliating abuse. That crossed a line of no return in my book. No respect for any of you. Anyway...
Well, we are gaining the lack of relations with the UK. Which is never a bad thing. hehe
I don't agree that there is a general level of abuse of Argentine war dead. I'm not denying the odd idiot like Conquerer does it but in any statistical trend analysis he would be discounted as an anomaly, the same as the likes of Aussie Sunshine would be on the Argentine side of the debate.
The comment that seemed to get you most upset was the one I posted when I said that Beef best summed up the story of Bolivia giving its support to Argentina. Go back and look at Beef's comment and explain to me how it was insulting to Argentine war dead. Beef has already challenged you on this but you didn't respond.
By the way. I am in London on business; hence my early morning posting. Where are you? You're either up very late or very early or you're not in Argentina. I fly back south on Wednesday.
Nobody with an ounce of decency would disrespect the war dead from any nation and the people from Europe are no different.
I never posted at this time before... And my posting at this time is no indication of anything, except that perhaps I could be doing something else to be up so late.
Europeans are cocky, and I think this economic crisis has a numinous patina, as if sent to make them reflect. But most seem unreconstructed.
Stop being so defensive; I was only curious. Also, stop being so racist (“Europeans are so cocky”).
This is why I have no respect for anyone anymore. You all evince quite selective outrage, yet display a classic case of Tu Quoque.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGatAOnIi5w
www.youtube.com/watch?v=utQyob-cxpU
I have no idea what some of those words even mean. You seem to think you have some sort of edge over those of us with only average vocabulary through your love of words. How unimpressive! I'm just an engineer and a simple businessman; go try to impress some of your college buddies. We always keep a couple of good translators (they're a dime a dozen compared to our company's cores disciplines) on our staff though so if times ever get tough for you let me know.
Well my car is about to arrive. Time to go and deliver for my boss. She rewards me well but understandably has high expectations. Show time!
However any talks would be short:
KFC: We are here to discuss our sovereignity of the Malvinas. According to our constitution, it's ours.
HMG: They are not the Malvinas, they are called the Falkland Islands, on the Falkland Islands. According to the UN principles of self-determination applying to Dependent Overseas Territories, encouraging the handing over of more self-governing powers, and the inconvinience of recorded history, it's not yours, it belongs to the inhabitants.
KFC: We will go to the UN to get you to negotiate (again).
HMG: Whatever.
Sometimes he has been rational and other times seems to be having a breakdown live on the internet.
Ahh, the land of my fathers...
Tobias has a point, the vast majority of those here defending your arguments are abusive, rude and tends to have discussions at primary school level.
If you are to have a go at Tobias for doing the same, maybe you (posters) should have a go at eachother first.
Can't shout loud when someone abuses your flag and country and at the same time keep quiet when other people abuses hers/his, defending your views. That's hypocrasy and double morals.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:26 am
Joe you know Malvinista logic as well as anybody here. They do not see what is there, they see only what they want. Their arguments are based on their fevered imagination and arrogant bluster. This is why you read their posts and find them utterly irrelevant to the actual discussion.
Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
16 December 1965
The General Assembly,
Having examined the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Taking into account the chapters of the reports of the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples relating to the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), and in particular the conclusions and recommendations adopted by the Committee with reference to that Territory,
Considering that its resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing to an end everywhere colonialism in all its forms, one of which covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Noting the existence of a dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the said Islands,
1. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);
2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committee and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.
Don't project your insecurities and compulsive behaviour on others, nobody cares how many friends you have, nor whom you “whack off” over...
What does CFK think is going to happen? why is she going?
Keep in mind UN resolution 2065 wants an independent FI, and the C24's job is to recommend on this, they are not an ICJ and have no powers.
Also if Argentina annexed the FI against the peoples wishes, the FI would then be a colony, which is the against the very purpose of the C24 and decolonization!
Am I missing something, I'm confused?
The C24 will say that we need to sit down and talk - well the UK & Argentina do.. as we have no rights.. especially as the head of the C24 or at least a delegation refuse to visit the Falklands, and we are not recognised by Argentina (why should the usurper pirates be before anyone add that).
About time we went to the ICJ, however Argentina of course would not do this as they would be required to acknowledge our existence/rights.. or of my 09th generation Falkland Islands born children..
The debate will continue on a much higher level without his comments and insults.
In answer to the article and KFC's posturing, the simple answer is that, if resolution 2065 were to be acted upon, the Argies would have to drop the Mavinas nonsense from their constitution first and an acceptance that self-determination is a right of residents according to UN principles.
There can be no dialogue and no negotiation when one party can only accept a pre-set outcome.
@9 That is good to hear. Just remember that if “you” go anywhere near the Falkland Islands, “you” will have to have something to do with “Europeans”. And by “European” I mean their ancestry as much as argies see “European” Spanish, German and Italian ancestry.
@18 Look it up. All UNGA resolutions are NON-BINDING. Argies seem to think they have the force of law. They don't!
@23 It would be nice if anything you ever said regarding the Falklands included any truth. It doesn't. You merely put forward your bigoted, blinkered, isolationist, mendacious views.
@27 & 29 Stop quoting irrelevancies.
These 40,000,000 people call me and my fellow islanders, “pirates”, “colonialists”, “turnips” etc. etc., all because I was born in the Falklands and because I refuse to give my home away. Individuals of this country of 40,000,000 regularly call me at home to give me verbal abuse and they message me on the internet calling me a pirate, telling me to get out of “their” islands (Islands that they have never visited or intend to make their home).
Grow up and get some perspective. The Islanders are fighting for their home and livelihoods, while we are abused and blockaded, and we are expected to be respectful to the very people who are disrespecting us? RUBBISH.
If you can't handle the insults or our dislike of you, then give us a reason to be respectful to you.
I'm not going to enter an argument on your rights to the islands, take that with the Argentines.
Feel free to dislike anyone of your choosing though, and also to insult. But if that's your choice, you better stop crying when you get insulted at. Because posters here are good at that, they insult and cry, insult and cry.
I respect your opinion, but many people have one, and who says yours is the one that is right?
And you want me to care about calling you or Brits, or Spaniards, or the EU or Americans names?
You guys are the gift that keep on giving... Poor Joe trying to convince me Europeans are not arrogant, aloof twats and we get quote gems like the above.
High indignation when I call other nationalities names, but when the argies are... who cares?
This is why I have changed my mind about most of you, from giving you the benefit of the doubt when I started posting here to loathsome antiphaty now.
I'm supposed to be impressed by people here being engineers, travelling to Europe on the weekends, financial analyists, and travelling to Argentina as “part of their job” every 2 weeks (or so they claim?)... Why should I? lol
Get over it. I've seen much more abuse coming from Argentinians on this issue. At least the majority of British posters are respectful towards the issue, Something you can not say about the majority of Argentinian posters here.
”Oh please, how many times a day do I hear us argies are spineless, recreants, venal, uneducated, dunce, dumb, genocidal, deracinators, nazis, fascists, communists, women beaters, child beaters, incestuous (just was told that 5 minutes ago)?“
Oh please, How often do you heard British pirates, scum, warmongering, turnips. You hear the same stuff from both sides don't act like it's a one sided thing.
Your GOVERNMENT even resorts to name calling, it's frankly embarrassing.
” arrogant, supercilious, and patronizing Europeans can be, of all countries, so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you”
Do you not even realize how supercilious this statement in it self is? Then although you want nothing to do with any of us, continue to post here and on this website.
You're a constant contradiction. And then to mention Tu quoque, after all of that.
I'd say troll, to be honest.
You have not been here long enough.
I've personally had certain Argentinians tell me how our troops are pathetic baby killing murders, Had others tell me that Argentina should build a nuclear weapon and use it on London. Had one tell me how he was personally going to gas millions of people in London.
Did i take this as an accurate representation of the Argentinian people as a whole? No, because i'm not an idiot and i realize this is just probably a troubled eight year old little boy sitting on his pc after school.
You aren't an idiot either, stop acting like one.
I think I will just revert back to my verbiage. It really seems to get people piqued.
I find it far more insulting that a country of 40,000,000 is trying to destroy my home against my wishes and my fellow islanders wishes than being called a pirate, colonialist, or whatever Argentines want to call me.
And in conclusion, my post was meant to basically say to Argentines, that if you want our respect you better give us (as in the islanders) respect.
They must also by such actions indirectly adduce that the use of such manifestly crass language furthers their implied or insinuated argument of how their nationality's citizenry are so much more literate, diplomatic, than the ignorant, troglodyte Argies.
The quizzical aspect of this is, I would tend to concur with them on some topics of debate (the CFK government is haplessly brainless), but their slash-and-burn animadversions on all of us solely based on origin underwhelm individuals like me with the capacity to read with penetration and acumen between the lines.
May 31st, 2012 - 02:36 pm
Por fin a good post, I thought you'd gone round the bend with your rants about our war dead. Thank goodness you've recovered your sanity.
This is what yankeeboy just said“
”Lots of SAs think they are smart or rich or privileged in their own country but here they're just maids or gardeners.“
”I stick by that statement (all argentines are dumb and uneducated) but I said dumber not dimmer didn't I?“
Fellow cohort in the claque Conqueror said:
”Argies are genocides. There can be no doubt about this. Argies have exterminated approximately 60 million Amerindians. Argies are complicit in exterminations in other “countries”. Argies even kill their own. Not that this should be held against them. It's natural for them.”
Applauding yankeefool's comments: (RIGHT ON CUE AS I WROTE IN MY POST 44 HOW THE ANTI-ARGIES sycophanth fellow anti-argies comments to make them seem more factual)
“They get as high as maids or gardeners?”
You were saying, Zethee?
You people are so predictable, within minutes of my post 44 they come and do the exact thing I accuse them of. LOL
It's like being a scientist on litttle rodent animals knowing exactly their reactions to different stimuli.
Again I stick by my statement.
I have never met an RG rocket (actually any type of them) scientists here in the USA bartenders, strippers, waiters but not one rocket scientist yet. hahahaha
So your casuistry of the day is this, using another example but based on your archetype intellection, and resplendent “deductive reasoning” which stems from it:
I have never met an American who was a surgeon. Therefore, there are no Americans capable to be surgeons.
That's the coruscate analysis and conclusion which has you feeling so intellectually achieving this morning.
L
O
L
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Boy, this is just way too easy.
”Resolution 2065 (XX)
Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
16 December 1965”
If you translate all of this into Malvinistian it says
'Malvinas son Argentinas!'
Short and to the point but still invented nonsense.
The General Assembly,
Having examined the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Taking into account the chapters of the reports of the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples relating to the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), and in particular the conclusions and recommendations adopted by the Committee with reference to that Territory,
Considering that its resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing to an end everywhere colonialism in all its forms, one of which covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Noting the existence of a dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the said Islands,
1. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);
2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committee and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.
Then:
“You people are so predictable.”
“It's like being a scientist on litttle rodent animals knowing exactly their reactions to different stimuli.”
“That's the coruscate analysis and conclusion which has you feeling so intellectually achieving this morning.”
“Boy, this is just way too easy.”
You are quite the walking contradiction, aren't you.
so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you
yet you still post here!
You people are so predictable
pot, kettle :)
Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious. Which makes them predictable (read my post 44, go to the story about argie-US trade and read Conqueror's and yankeeboy's comments, right on cue making my point), as soon as you toss legitimate criticism and them (at you), they find slight. But they sure like to dish it out at us... Can't take the heat but like to bake cakes.
You invariably fall into behavior patterns that I can use to twist you all into gnarls. I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine.
In that sense, it is indeed a laboratory.
And you will never meet a successful Argentine Rocket Scientist in Argentina either.
Timmidman ballyhooed a new rocket! 25% payload no less!
The most successful mass produced true rocket ever - the V2 had a payload of 8%. Without knowing the propellant or forcing cone design I could not calculate the likely range. But given the 25%, I would imagine it would have difficulty even getting off the floor.
Never heard any more about it: what a surprise.
Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious
I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine.
hmmm
Well, when countries are not allowed to technologically advance because they are banned from testing technology, what do you expect?
How can you improve if you can't test?
More walking contradictions, you people are the gift that never finishes the gifting.
I guess we will have to see however, how the Tronador III rocket goes. They claim is 2-3 years away, after the succesful test of the much smaller II version.
While contradicting yourself. It is very amusing.
”Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious“
Please explain to me how these statements:
“It's like being a scientist on litttle rodent animals knowing exactly their reactions to different stimuli.”
“That's the coruscate analysis and conclusion which has you feeling so intellectually achieving this morning.”
“Boy, this is just way too easy.”
”I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine. “
Are not the words of a person whom is not arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious and patronizing.
”Well, when countries are not allowed to technologically advance because they are banned from testing technology, what do you expect?“
Also, would you like to provide some hard evidence to back up this claim that your country has been banned from testing rocket technology, Because i seem to recall someone stating something along the lines of:
”comments usually laden with confabulations, fibs, and outright lies and calumnies”
nowhere did i mention technology, or banned from testing technology, or anything to do with rockets
so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you
yet you still post here!
You people are so predictable
pot, kettle :)
my second post was in responce where you said europeans and americans thought they were superior and you followed that with,
I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine.
like i said pot, kettle
So if I'm an ugly bastard, and you are an ugly bastard, I can't call you an ugly bastard.
Fine, but you are still ugly bastards.
@58
Oh please, it is well known the USA and Europe want to keep the rest of the world technologically retarded, by any means. They can't do it with China or India because they are to chicken to go to war with them, so they force smaller countries to sign treaties forbidding them from any technological research, not just rockets. These are well known facts.
scarfo,
I stay here because it is amusing to me. In real life, yes, I don't want to see the face of a European ever again. Americans thanks to yankeeboy are quickly approaching that request too.
“I'm not the contradiction, I'm pointing out a contradiction.”
“Fine, but you are still ugly bastards.”
So is that you conceding that fact that you are contradicting yourself? Or is it still not okay to contradict yourself? Because when a British poster does it you give him a slap on the wrist, but it's ok for you to do it? Is that a contradiction? I'm confused, too many contradictions.
“Oh please, it is well known the USA and Europe want to keep the rest of the world technologically retarded.”
”comments usually laden with confabulations, fibs, and outright lies and calumnies”
Dude, my left eyebrow is smarter than you. In every conceivable parameter, I am smarter than about 305 million Americans too. They cower in a discussion with me, usually by falling back to the safe haven of “USA, USA, USA”.
now what was it you were saying again
Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious
i shall post this for the last time
pot, kettle!
May 31st, 2012 - 03:17 pm
I haven't read the posts after your's yet, but I thought you ought to know about Mario Acuña, plasma researcher at NASA, Argentine, died 2009.
Brilliant fellow!
Don't I hear all the time how Britain defeated argie in the Falklands? That's a fact, I never have said that is arrogant.
What I find arrogant is you people like to attack my country in terms of its culture, or language, or economy or whatever, and then don't like it when we strike back and point your economy, culture is not exactly ambrosial and pink fields of lavender.
You will never understand this point because you Europeans don't understand what it is to be humble, and not talk about other countries when you have so many problems at present.
@61
No, I was just suggesting that if YOU think I'm ugly and bastard, that doesn't mean you are no longer one too. Get it?
And yes I stand by the USA and Europe forcing smaller coutries to give up R&D so that Ratheon, Lockeed, Rafal, Siemmens, Finmecanica, etc...
That fact is irrefragable. You want the rest of the world dumb and ignorant otherwise you get China and India on a global scale, and you have enough problems already competing with them. Brazil is starting to wise up and ignore the treaties and going ahead with nuke subs, rockets, and other development.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:23 pm
Remember the SAC series of sattelites built for NASA by INVAP. Technologically we are in the front rank of countries, and that no one can deny!!!
I have stated that before, in a thread about “succesful argie companies that were partly run by the government”... yankeeboy dismissed it as “being too insignificant of a company”. That dude is an insecure bantam, you will never give credit about anything because he is just an insecure american troll who sees his country in steep decline on all fronts (and the decline began before Obama), and comes here to compensate. I just have fun with him.
Constantly berates people for contradicting themselves or being a contradiction while at the same time contradicting himself nearly every paragraph.
Dislikes us because of the fact we are arrogant and patronising, While being both arrogant and patronising at the same time(Along with the other traits he mentioned).
Accuses us of making ill informed statement's that we can't prove. Then makes a glaring one himself.
Tobias' is an Oxymoron.
Simon, good to hear from you, you have been quiet lately.
You are merely confusing me coming down to the prevalent level of intelligence here, and assuming thus I am not intelligent.
I tried the “act your intellect level” track, I even laid out my real opinions about the Falklands and how they should be left to self-determine, it got me nowhere but insulted and verbally abused by the other side in spite of the fact I agreed with them.
My only sin was to be Argentine.
So I said off with that, I'll deign myself to descend to a level that gets makes the point across.
Far less subtle, cogent, and scholarly, but that's what works here.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:47 pm
Suffering from 'flu. So just browsing through the postings, and putting in the odd comment. Must away to luncheon, rather late, but hunger strikes (pun meant).
In fact, none of you know anything about my personal life, yet I know snippets of many of yours, because it seems important to many of you to state that you travel, that you spend weekends in Europe, that you engineer, do financial analysis, have loads of money, shall I go on.
What do any of you know about me? Except what can't really be avoided, that I possess a formidable vocabulary.
Nothing. I haven't disclosed what my job is, if I go to school, where I go to school, my age, how much money I have, or don't, what educational background, my race, my religion or lack of, my sexual orientation, heck... for all you know I could be a she. Or a she that was a he. Or a she who became a he, but then crossdressed and decided she was lesbian afterall.
Just sayin.
Mario Acuña, plasma researcher at NASA. Yes, magnetic anomolies and plasma research is high science but it is not rocket science and external ballistics, which is what I was on about.
57 tobias
I no longer respond to you. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME RESPONDING TO MY POSTS.
I share a most of your views on CFK, but regarding this statement...
”Lots of SAs think they are smart or rich or privileged in their own country but here they're just maids or gardeners.“
...I was wondering if your “Argentinean friends” who you dined out with in Uruguay (a previous thread) fell in to the category of thinking they were rich, or if they were maids and gardeners.
He asseverates he was in Uruguay in order to remain obfuscate, and not be forced to admit his dinner was on the Buquebus stevedore dock waiting for the late ferry at discount fare.
He would have us conceive that his dinners were beachfront at some seaside estancia 20 minutes removed from Jose Ignacio at tantivy speed.
LOL
My work takes me to many countries including Argentina and I relate personal experiences to illustrate points raised in the topic of discussion. Feel free to ignore my posts if my lifestyle offends you.
“An Argentine Partnership with NASA”
“When the Aquarius mission launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in June 2011, few Americans outside the Earth-science and space communities probably knew that the satellite itself came from Argentina”
www.nasa.gov/offices/oce/appel/ask/issues/46/46s_argentine_partnership.html
Perhaps, Perhaps. (Passim), perhaps.
I merely find it uncanny, borderline preternatural, that your experiences have such a felicitious and germane applicability in very solitary topic of debate, infallibly so I would proffer.
There seems to be no theme or circumstance in which you are incapable or unable to draw some apropos commentary sourced from such an argosy of anecdotes.
Just saying.
Northwestern Class of 2005...(Astro physics and Nuclear as well) ...
And the victim thinking that this post is all about bashing people from Argentina all I can tell you is take the chip of your shoulder. Same for the islander regarding 40 million vs 3000.
Take the chip of your shoulder
See, it doesn't make me smart to state yankeeboy was an arrogant twat/troll. There is nothing smart about stating the obvious, it requires no penetrating or discriminating 6th sense.
So perhaps people should trust my judgments of people a little more. Yankeeboy is an insecure young male, who sees the USA declining (this is a fact, it is not me engaging in Schadenfreude), so he needs to conpensate by stretching his conceit and ego here.
I see it in yahoo! all the time. Americans used to be secure people thus didn't need to put down other countries (at least at the person to person level of interaction). Now 90% of american posters in all forums I participate are incredibly tetchy, irascible, and exceedingly facile to rile.
Typical signs of an insecure nationality at the moment.
Now I'll let you on with your whims and vagaries.
We all know how “stong” that case will be don't we? Look, if Argentina's claim over the Falklands is so strong, why haven't they taken it to an international tribunal or some international court to get it settled once and for all?
Even I can answer that one... They would loose.
I suspect though, that even if they did loose, we STILL wouldn't hear the last of it though, do you?
And so the merry-go-round turns yet again oh well, ho hum..... At least there will be cringe worthy moments of the Argentine President embarassing herself on the world stage ( again ) to entertain us all.
@84 Yup the drip, drip, drip of water torture-esque tedium will go on and on until the mad bat is replaced by someone there who's sensible and rational and favours co-operation over nationalistic ranting... Won't hold my breath.
I love the :- “replaced by someone there who's sensible and rational and favours co-operation over nationalistic ranting” Bit!!! I LOL so hard, a little bit of wee came out.
Is there anyone like this IN Argentina? Nope......oh wait...hang on a minute!!! Yes there is!!
HEY!!! Simon68!!! Got a job for you mate!! Fancy being president?
I like your post. LOL! Shall we discuss travel now and the good and bad attributes of the various airlines' first and business class cabins? Oh, and what about VIP lounges at airports around the world? That way Tobias can have another tantrum about how predictable we are.
I have it! The perfect pre-fight. It's a combination of several. Virgin Upper Class limo pick-up/enroute baggage drop, then into the Concorde Room in T5 (BA) but with Virgin's Upper Class Lounge breakfast menu (I usually always leave the UK on mid-morning flights, otherwise I'd say with Antigua's Outbound Lounge's afternoon menu) and finally taken straight on board just minutes before the door closes and pre-ordered G&T on my seat tray (new to Gold).
Next, my favourite hotel. Might even be an Argentine one. I don't know exactly what it is about the place but I just love the Marriott Plaza Hotel. I'll give it some more thought before I answer that one though. It might also have to be a hybrid.
(i) Inflation is running away at 30%; wage rises are running at 5%
(ii) the country is at 100th place in the World's index of corrupt nations
(iii) because of the 'appropriation' of YPF no one investors are being driven away
(iv) Argentina is at odds with the US, EU and a host of other countries over trade
So why not use the old chestnut, 'the Malvinas are Argentina's', wouldn't you use it if your backs to the wall?
I think this thread needs some humiliating derogation of argentine dead soldiers, as spineless, cowards
[You brought it up [again]
The blogg in question,
Why is CFK going to this meeting,
And if she is allowed,
Then a representative from great Britain and the Falklands,
Should also be there,
[Not to observe]
But also to refute any and all CFK lies,
Is this not fair.
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It's 8/1 in the futures market...
Toby is all of your savings in Pesos?
Ouch, this sounds like a test run real-life application of the Kamasutra gone really wrong.
We look forward to some ridiculous statements on “colonisation” and “militarisation”
C24 is a “talking shop” but may give CFK a photo-opp when “addressing” a “large” UN committee.
Bring your case to the ICJ and the fourth UN committee and we might (just- yawn!) take interest - if not please don't embarrass yourself (unless you wish to keep us amused) - actually, please make an a**e of yourself - it will be more fun that way. How are your dollar bank accounts doing, BTW?
The UN has lost its way, it is totally out of place in the 21st century, and it is irrelevant and useless,
It is overrun by tin pot dictators, backed up by fools
That puts democracy way down the list of importance,
The UN has no power
And NATO has no political clout
Both need to be disbanded, and a new, better, organised and enforceable organisation should, and one day , will replace it,
But that tomorrow,
Today it sits on its bum trying to enforce de colonisation where none exists, and yet sits back and lets thousands of innocent die in Syria, be cause it has no power, and Russia and china are as guilty as the Syrians .
Just a opinion.
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You've hit the nail on the head - the UN has become totally ineffectual- always looking at the small stuff rathe than concentrating on the big issues.
Syria is a train crash in progress and the UN's efforts should be aimed in that direction rather than petulant and childish protests from certain “Third World ”countries
I guess if she shows up on 14 June, they'll probably let speak, but will be interesting to see what she says in her presentation about 14 June, 1982.
UN meet timetable: www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2
I am no so enamoured with the Concorde Lounge at T5. Call me lazy but as most of my flights depart from B gates I tend to settle in the Business Lounge there. It is quieter too.
Of course, the G & T is a given.
Many of you may not admit it, but you know that having my vocabulary and knowing several languages is something that requires much dedication, time, and pertinacity. That on top of my other fields of learning (specially science).
My frustration sublimates quite well, thank you.
Just a kindly word; sounding like a menu in a pompous restaurant impresses no one here. Stop trying to sell yourself because I am not buying and I doubt anyone else is. And remember, self- praise is no praise.
Even if it is for a nanosecond, deep in the stygian depths of your scruples, you will thank me.
It is conforting to realize that at least I would know what it is I am looking for!
Asking you Europeans to search for the same would be like asking a fish to search for a moist corner.
:)
That would be ”especially science“ not ”specially science.” Compiling a dozen obscure words from a dictionary and then repeatedly using them in strained sentences is impressive, but the impression is not positive.
May 31st, 2012 - 07:23 pm
Not on your nellie!!! There is no way I'd run for president of this poor benighted country. This is not from lack of patriotism, it's because I believe it is impossible after 70 years of corruption, misgovernment, military dictatorships, terrorism (both state and political), this country is only saveable by someone with youthfull vigor and unbreakable honesty. I may have the second but certainly lack the first.
Do you see me pointing out your mistakes or other mistakes? That is not what I have ever done to anyone, I just use more vocabulary and elocutions which is different entirely than being hypercritical or captious with nothing positive to offer.
I find it amazing how so many people are offended at my vocabulary size. This one really did hit a nerve. You may all say it doesn't affect you, it does not impress you, but you all keep making it an issue so at some point one has to conclude otherwise.
BTW, it's more than a “dozen” words and please give examples of “strained” sentences. All the sentences are dovetailed with the arcane vocabulary just as well as with the everyday vocabulary, there is no shoehorning.
Just admit it, you are unconfortable with this.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:47 am
Not in the slightest. I do think you're being a tiny bit pedantic, but that is only my opinion. I really do like some of your English Language usages, they are really quite quaint.
Actually on several occasions you use your vocabulary absolutely correctly.
This is the #1 complaint of people in the top 1-2% of this category, the fact that naturally so few people comprehend many of the terms, but mainly that they are made to feel bad for using it, so many shy away. I think that is a form of discrimination to be honest.
Anyway, that was that.
I still use the preposition “cabe”. Ask any Spanish speaker, they don't even know such a preposition exists.
El parque de diversiones se localiza cabe la autopista.
I wonder if any of the Spanish speakers here would even know where the amusement park lies in relation to the expressway.
Anyway, since the subject came up, I invite all Spanish speakers to revive the use of “cabe” (as in “Ella yace cabe mio”), and the future subjunctive. It sounds terrible to use the imperfect or present subjunctive for a future event “Cuando me visites hablaremos” .... use the future:
“Cuando me visitares, hablaremos.”
So glad Cristina has both =)
Come come old chap, she is but a primrose, in her prime, with the petals falling orff
As for honesty, she utters more inaccuracies that an encyclopaedia.
Honesty according to CATO is a man dedicated to the obedience of the ten commandments.
Mind you, to be fair, as she is a woman, she probably exempts herself from this petty irrelevances .
Is this not true .
mmmm
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If, as Elaine quite rightly says, he got out into the real world and stopped trying so hard with this 'I'm better than anyone' and 'you will learn something of your language from me' nonsense he may, in time, turn out to be a nice chap.
“vocabulary and knowing several languages is something that requires much dedication”
”That on top of my other fields of learning (specially science). ”
Is that information telling you my occupation or métier? Does it reveal my school of matriculation? my age? my net worth?
It just tells you my fields of interest as a person. I may be exceedingly leery about releasing information on the internet, but not outright paranoid.
Mind you, to be fair, as she is a woman, she probably exempts herself from this petty irrelevances”
Worked for Maggie...
very good
Yes, but Maggie had bigger balls than you AND she hammered your commie Jock Mates in the union, didn't she?
TMBA couldn't hold a candle to Margaret in terms of intellect and strength of character.
Pity Camoron has got about as much as your 'queen' and that's FA.
Come up with these big amorous complicated extraordinary upper class, snobbish out blandish words,
Is Toby trying to impress us by any chance,
I spent 5 years back and forth to oxford,
And I am not impressed.
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Long live the diamond jubilee
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However, I do believe that CFK might just use this 'trip' to scarper before the angry mob turn up baying for her blood once they realise she and her inept government has stolen all their money and ruined the country.
It'll be interesting to see. :0)
No self respecting leader of a government would directly address a small powerless committee, they would be sorting out problems at home, no avoiding them.
“False Falklands History at the United Nations: how Argentina misled the UN in 1964 and still does”:
falklandshistory.org/sites/default/files/false-falklands-history.pdf
tobias, has at least 3 other aliases,
and uses them, against us,
setting lies then leaving to laugh,
not as clever as one thinks .
mm
never old chap never
Or should that be you Think?
mind you, working for the CIA throws up many challenges every day,
still back to blooging. lol
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