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Confirmed: Cristina Fernandez will attend C24 meeting on Falklands next June 14
President Cristina Fernandez will be attending next June 14 the UN Decolonization meeting in New York where she is expected to make a strong case for Argentina’s claim over the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI think this thread needs some humiliating derogation of argentine dead soldiers, as spineless, cowards, and as people who talked too much and did too little, that ran and hid (and somehow got killed). Since this is more “talk” by Argentina... I think it makes sense to restate what all the non-argies here endorsed in the Bolivian thread, that the argentine servicemen that died were spineless, simply because they were argie.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias
May 31st, 2012 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't see any such insults being levelled at Argentine war dead. You're losing it. First you go on and on pointlessly about pedophilia. I ask Mercopress to remove a post of yours- and they did- in which you intimate that Falkland Islanders have sex with sheep, and then you go crazy and start imagining that we've all been disrespecting Argentine war dead. Stop acting like a spoilt school boy who isn't getting his way.
“President Cristina Fernandez demands that the UK comply with UN Resolution 2065”
May 31st, 2012 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Eeerrrmmm, back in 1982, wasn't UN Resolution 501 passed calling for the uncondisional withdraw of Argentine forces from the Falkland Islands???
Did the Argentines comply with that?
You've got a snowballs chance in hell of the UK complying with 2065 love..........
@2
May 31st, 2012 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know I had forgotten about the sheep comment, OK my apologies about that if that was the reason my post was removed.
But my statement stand. The comments clearly and univocally state “hispanics” (though I don't recognize such a group exists), are spineless cowards. It is a completely logical syllogism to conclude that extends to any war dead of that so-called ethnicity.
I never thought you people would level such humiliating abuse. That crossed a line of no return in my book. No respect for any of you. Anyway...
The General Assembly will call for a peaceful outcome, Argentina will say that means they support them, the UK and the islanders will both laugh at them and say get lost, this will drag on. Argentina has to admit they're getting nowhere with this.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5
May 31st, 2012 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, we are gaining the lack of relations with the UK. Which is never a bad thing. hehe
The UK has done basically nothing to cut relations with Argentina, Argentina however has been trying to stop business with the UK and block shipping and spread lies about them. So, any cut in ties is down to Argentina, not the UK.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias
May 31st, 2012 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't agree that there is a general level of abuse of Argentine war dead. I'm not denying the odd idiot like Conquerer does it but in any statistical trend analysis he would be discounted as an anomaly, the same as the likes of Aussie Sunshine would be on the Argentine side of the debate.
The comment that seemed to get you most upset was the one I posted when I said that Beef best summed up the story of Bolivia giving its support to Argentina. Go back and look at Beef's comment and explain to me how it was insulting to Argentine war dead. Beef has already challenged you on this but you didn't respond.
By the way. I am in London on business; hence my early morning posting. Where are you? You're either up very late or very early or you're not in Argentina. I fly back south on Wednesday.
All good ideas indeed. I used to be more pragmatic about things but I have discovered how arrogant, supercilious, and patronizing Europeans can be, of all countries, so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm guessing it is mainly Mercopress posts that has done this to you. You have to realise that a lot of the posters on here on both sides are extremists and you shouldn't start believing that they are representative of the peoples in general from both sides of the debate.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody with an ounce of decency would disrespect the war dead from any nation and the people from Europe are no different.
Why do people focus so much on time of posting? Who cares? Do I really have any obligation to explain why I am up so late at night? None of anyone's business. I'm young, young people sometimes do all-nighters. We survive well.
May 31st, 2012 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I never posted at this time before... And my posting at this time is no indication of anything, except that perhaps I could be doing something else to be up so late.
Europeans are cocky, and I think this economic crisis has a numinous patina, as if sent to make them reflect. But most seem unreconstructed.
Tobias
May 31st, 2012 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop being so defensive; I was only curious. Also, stop being so racist (“Europeans are so cocky”).
Oh please, how many times a day do I hear us argies are spineless, recreants, venal, uneducated, dunce, dumb, genocidal, deracinators, nazis, fascists, communists, women beaters, child beaters, incestuous (just was told that 5 minutes ago)?
May 31st, 2012 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is why I have no respect for anyone anymore. You all evince quite selective outrage, yet display a classic case of Tu Quoque.
Friends islanders and british ,the music have not borders ,enjoy it friends!
May 31st, 2012 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGatAOnIi5w
www.youtube.com/watch?v=utQyob-cxpU
Tobias
May 31st, 2012 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have no idea what some of those words even mean. You seem to think you have some sort of edge over those of us with only average vocabulary through your love of words. How unimpressive! I'm just an engineer and a simple businessman; go try to impress some of your college buddies. We always keep a couple of good translators (they're a dime a dozen compared to our company's cores disciplines) on our staff though so if times ever get tough for you let me know.
Well my car is about to arrive. Time to go and deliver for my boss. She rewards me well but understandably has high expectations. Show time!
Does this mean that all Spanish, Italian, French and German colonists will be leaving the South American continent?
May 31st, 2012 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 016: I hope so, that'd leave just the Welsh who can claim Patagonia for Cymru!!
May 31st, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought the Argentine Invasion of the Falkland Islands in 1982 was contrary to 2065? Therefore 2065 is irrelevent. Finished. Dead. By unwarranted Argentine aggression.
May 31st, 2012 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0However any talks would be short:
KFC: We are here to discuss our sovereignity of the Malvinas. According to our constitution, it's ours.
HMG: They are not the Malvinas, they are called the Falkland Islands, on the Falkland Islands. According to the UN principles of self-determination applying to Dependent Overseas Territories, encouraging the handing over of more self-governing powers, and the inconvinience of recorded history, it's not yours, it belongs to the inhabitants.
KFC: We will go to the UN to get you to negotiate (again).
HMG: Whatever.
Self-determination- or none of us are free. Americans remember the fight for your Constitution...None of the South American States have that.
May 31st, 2012 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm starting to wonder if “Tobias” is a username used by a group of posters rather than one individual.
May 31st, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes he has been rational and other times seems to be having a breakdown live on the internet.
Looking forward to it =) Go go Cristina =)
May 31st, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 017 Boovis
May 31st, 2012 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ahh, the land of my fathers...
Joe
May 31st, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias has a point, the vast majority of those here defending your arguments are abusive, rude and tends to have discussions at primary school level.
If you are to have a go at Tobias for doing the same, maybe you (posters) should have a go at eachother first.
Can't shout loud when someone abuses your flag and country and at the same time keep quiet when other people abuses hers/his, defending your views. That's hypocrasy and double morals.
@2 Joe Bloggs (#)
May 31st, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0May 31st, 2012 - 06:26 am
Joe you know Malvinista logic as well as anybody here. They do not see what is there, they see only what they want. Their arguments are based on their fevered imagination and arrogant bluster. This is why you read their posts and find them utterly irrelevant to the actual discussion.
Pity she's going to the wrong Committee. The C24 is merely a sub-sub-Committee. It'sthe Fourth Committee that she should be talking to, but then, they haven't been listening since 1988.
May 31st, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias u stay on these posts late because u have very few friends, and probably planning to whack one off over KFC, the thought of which has just made me gag!
May 31st, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Resolution 2065 (XX)
May 31st, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
16 December 1965
The General Assembly,
Having examined the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Taking into account the chapters of the reports of the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples relating to the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), and in particular the conclusions and recommendations adopted by the Committee with reference to that Territory,
Considering that its resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing to an end everywhere colonialism in all its forms, one of which covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Noting the existence of a dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the said Islands,
1. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);
2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committee and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.
brit abroad
May 31st, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't project your insecurities and compulsive behaviour on others, nobody cares how many friends you have, nor whom you “whack off” over...
@27
May 31st, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does CFK think is going to happen? why is she going?
Keep in mind UN resolution 2065 wants an independent FI, and the C24's job is to recommend on this, they are not an ICJ and have no powers.
Also if Argentina annexed the FI against the peoples wishes, the FI would then be a colony, which is the against the very purpose of the C24 and decolonization!
Am I missing something, I'm confused?
CFK will rant on for two or three hours about Las Islas Malvinas - how we are robbing them of their natural resources... militarising the South Atlantic... all that Argentina want is peace.. probably roll out Mr Penn, Morrisey and her ace in the hole James Peck ... Also refer to the removal of the Argentine/ Spanish inhabitants (or should I say military force) in 1833... blah, blah, blah... weep, weep, weep...
May 31st, 2012 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The C24 will say that we need to sit down and talk - well the UK & Argentina do.. as we have no rights.. especially as the head of the C24 or at least a delegation refuse to visit the Falklands, and we are not recognised by Argentina (why should the usurper pirates be before anyone add that).
About time we went to the ICJ, however Argentina of course would not do this as they would be required to acknowledge our existence/rights.. or of my 09th generation Falkland Islands born children..
I wrote an email to the Argentine embassy in london asking why they kept claiming the people were thrown out he islands when there's well documented evidence to show it didn't happen. They are yet to respond...
May 31st, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Tobias has so little regard for the comments of the Pro Falkland posters and if he disagrees so violently with the expressed views, why does he continue to read them and participate in a forum for which he clearly has such low regard?
May 31st, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The debate will continue on a much higher level without his comments and insults.
In answer to the article and KFC's posturing, the simple answer is that, if resolution 2065 were to be acted upon, the Argies would have to drop the Mavinas nonsense from their constitution first and an acceptance that self-determination is a right of residents according to UN principles.
There can be no dialogue and no negotiation when one party can only accept a pre-set outcome.
Resolution 2065 is DEAD. Murdered. Stabbed in the back in 1982. A DEAD Resolution - 6 feet under, pushing up the daisy's
May 31st, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8 You're going to need to do better than that. I can't actually recall any comment I've ever made denigrating war dead. Wishing there could have been more of them on the argie side is not the same thing. Simply a recognition that 649 was not enough to persuade the argies to go away and stay away. Nor is wishing the argie remains off the Islands denigratory. CFK is on record as saying that, with the argie war dead there, part of the Falklands is argentine and supports the argie claim. Do we (Britain) go around the world pointing at all the British war cemetaries and insisting they give us a right to the countries in which they exist? Nor do I trust argies at all. In 1982 they went for a sneak, underhand invasion. They've lied continuously ever since. They lied about where the Belgrano was and what it was doing. They've lied about British forces both during and after the war. They lie about their “claim”. Despite their signature to, and ratification of, the UN Charter, they don't abide by it except when it suits them. They are known to have landed, covertly, on the Islands since the war. Just as they had a covert naval base on the British territory of Thule Island before the war. I don't even believe all these constant argie visitors to the Islands are “families”. I think a lot of them are “agents” up to no good.
May 31st, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 That is good to hear. Just remember that if “you” go anywhere near the Falkland Islands, “you” will have to have something to do with “Europeans”. And by “European” I mean their ancestry as much as argies see “European” Spanish, German and Italian ancestry.
@18 Look it up. All UNGA resolutions are NON-BINDING. Argies seem to think they have the force of law. They don't!
@23 It would be nice if anything you ever said regarding the Falklands included any truth. It doesn't. You merely put forward your bigoted, blinkered, isolationist, mendacious views.
@27 & 29 Stop quoting irrelevancies.
KFC attending the meeting! Best have her plane ready so she can leave the party early!
May 31st, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have just been reading this pathetic exchange about name calling. Who cares if someone called Argentines spineless - who honestly cares. A country of 40,000,000, 500 miles away from my home wants to actively remove me from where I was born by trying to destroy my country's economy, by spreading lies around the world and by trying to eliminate my human rights.
May 31st, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These 40,000,000 people call me and my fellow islanders, “pirates”, “colonialists”, “turnips” etc. etc., all because I was born in the Falklands and because I refuse to give my home away. Individuals of this country of 40,000,000 regularly call me at home to give me verbal abuse and they message me on the internet calling me a pirate, telling me to get out of “their” islands (Islands that they have never visited or intend to make their home).
Grow up and get some perspective. The Islanders are fighting for their home and livelihoods, while we are abused and blockaded, and we are expected to be respectful to the very people who are disrespecting us? RUBBISH.
If you can't handle the insults or our dislike of you, then give us a reason to be respectful to you.
M of FI
May 31st, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not going to enter an argument on your rights to the islands, take that with the Argentines.
Feel free to dislike anyone of your choosing though, and also to insult. But if that's your choice, you better stop crying when you get insulted at. Because posters here are good at that, they insult and cry, insult and cry.
I respect your opinion, but many people have one, and who says yours is the one that is right?
“I have just been reading this pathetic exchange about name calling. Who cares if someone called Argentines spineless - who honestly cares.”
May 31st, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you want me to care about calling you or Brits, or Spaniards, or the EU or Americans names?
You guys are the gift that keep on giving... Poor Joe trying to convince me Europeans are not arrogant, aloof twats and we get quote gems like the above.
High indignation when I call other nationalities names, but when the argies are... who cares?
This is why I have changed my mind about most of you, from giving you the benefit of the doubt when I started posting here to loathsome antiphaty now.
I'm supposed to be impressed by people here being engineers, travelling to Europe on the weekends, financial analyists, and travelling to Argentina as “part of their job” every 2 weeks (or so they claim?)... Why should I? lol
“Tobias: I think this thread needs some humiliating derogation of argentine dead soldiers”
May 31st, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it. I've seen much more abuse coming from Argentinians on this issue. At least the majority of British posters are respectful towards the issue, Something you can not say about the majority of Argentinian posters here.
”Oh please, how many times a day do I hear us argies are spineless, recreants, venal, uneducated, dunce, dumb, genocidal, deracinators, nazis, fascists, communists, women beaters, child beaters, incestuous (just was told that 5 minutes ago)?“
Oh please, How often do you heard British pirates, scum, warmongering, turnips. You hear the same stuff from both sides don't act like it's a one sided thing.
Your GOVERNMENT even resorts to name calling, it's frankly embarrassing.
” arrogant, supercilious, and patronizing Europeans can be, of all countries, so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you”
Do you not even realize how supercilious this statement in it self is? Then although you want nothing to do with any of us, continue to post here and on this website.
You're a constant contradiction. And then to mention Tu quoque, after all of that.
I'd say troll, to be honest.
Yes, yes, yes... I have not seen one argie make the comments you are ascribing. None, for example in this thread or the one where the argentine dead in the war were called spineless.
May 31st, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Yes, yes, yes... I have not seen one argie make the comments you are ascribing. None, for example in this thread or the one where the argentine dead in the war were called spineless.”
May 31st, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have not been here long enough.
I've personally had certain Argentinians tell me how our troops are pathetic baby killing murders, Had others tell me that Argentina should build a nuclear weapon and use it on London. Had one tell me how he was personally going to gas millions of people in London.
Did i take this as an accurate representation of the Argentinian people as a whole? No, because i'm not an idiot and i realize this is just probably a troubled eight year old little boy sitting on his pc after school.
You aren't an idiot either, stop acting like one.
If you say so...
May 31st, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think I will just revert back to my verbiage. It really seems to get people piqued.
Guzz and Tobias. My post is not to seek validation for people insulting each other and I dont wish to seek permission or validation for myself to insult others. I dont play this insulting game. I am just trying create some sense of perceptive to this arguement about name calling.
May 31st, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it far more insulting that a country of 40,000,000 is trying to destroy my home against my wishes and my fellow islanders wishes than being called a pirate, colonialist, or whatever Argentines want to call me.
And in conclusion, my post was meant to basically say to Argentines, that if you want our respect you better give us (as in the islanders) respect.
Amusing how foreigners from a selection of nations collectively belittle and derogate the denizens in Argentina, traducing and bemiring them with all forms of epithets and cognomens, such as benighted, uneducated, blighted, churlish, and recreant. Then they proceed to felicitate each other or reinforce any prior comment by a fellow cohort, comments usually laden with confabulations, fibs, and outright lies and calumnies, in order to enhance its purported factuality (proving how cognizant they are of the inaccuracies and opprobrium within many of their replies), thus acting like a veritable claque.
May 31st, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They must also by such actions indirectly adduce that the use of such manifestly crass language furthers their implied or insinuated argument of how their nationality's citizenry are so much more literate, diplomatic, than the ignorant, troglodyte Argies.
The quizzical aspect of this is, I would tend to concur with them on some topics of debate (the CFK government is haplessly brainless), but their slash-and-burn animadversions on all of us solely based on origin underwhelm individuals like me with the capacity to read with penetration and acumen between the lines.
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May 31st, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 044 tobias (#)
May 31st, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 31st, 2012 - 02:36 pm
Por fin a good post, I thought you'd gone round the bend with your rants about our war dead. Thank goodness you've recovered your sanity.
Since people seem to conviniently ignore things, I will place them in there face:
May 31st, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is what yankeeboy just said“
”Lots of SAs think they are smart or rich or privileged in their own country but here they're just maids or gardeners.“
”I stick by that statement (all argentines are dumb and uneducated) but I said dumber not dimmer didn't I?“
Fellow cohort in the claque Conqueror said:
”Argies are genocides. There can be no doubt about this. Argies have exterminated approximately 60 million Amerindians. Argies are complicit in exterminations in other “countries”. Argies even kill their own. Not that this should be held against them. It's natural for them.”
Applauding yankeefool's comments: (RIGHT ON CUE AS I WROTE IN MY POST 44 HOW THE ANTI-ARGIES sycophanth fellow anti-argies comments to make them seem more factual)
“They get as high as maids or gardeners?”
You were saying, Zethee?
You people are so predictable, within minutes of my post 44 they come and do the exact thing I accuse them of. LOL
It's like being a scientist on litttle rodent animals knowing exactly their reactions to different stimuli.
”Lots of SAs think they are smart or rich or privileged in their own country but here they're just maids or gardeners.“
May 31st, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again I stick by my statement.
I have never met an RG rocket (actually any type of them) scientists here in the USA bartenders, strippers, waiters but not one rocket scientist yet. hahahaha
Jeez Tobi, are you a drama student by any chance? You've got histrionics down to a fine art. Go and listen to some whale music or snort some aromatherapy candles and chillax maaaan.
May 31st, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48
May 31st, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So your casuistry of the day is this, using another example but based on your archetype intellection, and resplendent “deductive reasoning” which stems from it:
I have never met an American who was a surgeon. Therefore, there are no Americans capable to be surgeons.
That's the coruscate analysis and conclusion which has you feeling so intellectually achieving this morning.
L
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Boy, this is just way too easy.
@27 Steve-32-uk (#) May 31st, 2012 - 09:49 am
May 31st, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Resolution 2065 (XX)
Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
16 December 1965”
If you translate all of this into Malvinistian it says
'Malvinas son Argentinas!'
Short and to the point but still invented nonsense.
The General Assembly,
Having examined the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Taking into account the chapters of the reports of the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples relating to the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), and in particular the conclusions and recommendations adopted by the Committee with reference to that Territory,
Considering that its resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing to an end everywhere colonialism in all its forms, one of which covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Noting the existence of a dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the said Islands,
1. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);
2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committee and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.
“I have discovered how arrogant, supercilious, and patronizing Europeans can be”
May 31st, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then:
“You people are so predictable.”
“It's like being a scientist on litttle rodent animals knowing exactly their reactions to different stimuli.”
“That's the coruscate analysis and conclusion which has you feeling so intellectually achieving this morning.”
“Boy, this is just way too easy.”
You are quite the walking contradiction, aren't you.
tobias
May 31st, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you
yet you still post here!
You people are so predictable
pot, kettle :)
I'm not the contradiction, I'm pointing out a contradiction. The contradiction is you.
May 31st, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious. Which makes them predictable (read my post 44, go to the story about argie-US trade and read Conqueror's and yankeeboy's comments, right on cue making my point), as soon as you toss legitimate criticism and them (at you), they find slight. But they sure like to dish it out at us... Can't take the heat but like to bake cakes.
You invariably fall into behavior patterns that I can use to twist you all into gnarls. I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine.
In that sense, it is indeed a laboratory.
48 yankeeboy
May 31st, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you will never meet a successful Argentine Rocket Scientist in Argentina either.
Timmidman ballyhooed a new rocket! 25% payload no less!
The most successful mass produced true rocket ever - the V2 had a payload of 8%. Without knowing the propellant or forcing cone design I could not calculate the likely range. But given the 25%, I would imagine it would have difficulty even getting off the floor.
Never heard any more about it: what a surprise.
54
May 31st, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious
I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine.
hmmm
@55
May 31st, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, when countries are not allowed to technologically advance because they are banned from testing technology, what do you expect?
How can you improve if you can't test?
More walking contradictions, you people are the gift that never finishes the gifting.
I guess we will have to see however, how the Tronador III rocket goes. They claim is 2-3 years away, after the succesful test of the much smaller II version.
“I'm not the contradiction, I'm pointing out a contradiction.”
May 31st, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While contradicting yourself. It is very amusing.
”Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious“
Please explain to me how these statements:
“It's like being a scientist on litttle rodent animals knowing exactly their reactions to different stimuli.”
“That's the coruscate analysis and conclusion which has you feeling so intellectually achieving this morning.”
“Boy, this is just way too easy.”
”I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine. “
Are not the words of a person whom is not arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious and patronizing.
”Well, when countries are not allowed to technologically advance because they are banned from testing technology, what do you expect?“
Also, would you like to provide some hard evidence to back up this claim that your country has been banned from testing rocket technology, Because i seem to recall someone stating something along the lines of:
”comments usually laden with confabulations, fibs, and outright lies and calumnies”
57
May 31st, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nowhere did i mention technology, or banned from testing technology, or anything to do with rockets
so at this point I say I don't want anything to do with any of you
yet you still post here!
You people are so predictable
pot, kettle :)
my second post was in responce where you said europeans and americans thought they were superior and you followed that with,
I always win because I can predict your responses and behavior, but you cannot predict mine.
like i said pot, kettle
Ad hominems.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So if I'm an ugly bastard, and you are an ugly bastard, I can't call you an ugly bastard.
Fine, but you are still ugly bastards.
@58
Oh please, it is well known the USA and Europe want to keep the rest of the world technologically retarded, by any means. They can't do it with China or India because they are to chicken to go to war with them, so they force smaller countries to sign treaties forbidding them from any technological research, not just rockets. These are well known facts.
scarfo,
I stay here because it is amusing to me. In real life, yes, I don't want to see the face of a European ever again. Americans thanks to yankeeboy are quickly approaching that request too.
This is fun.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I'm not the contradiction, I'm pointing out a contradiction.”
“Fine, but you are still ugly bastards.”
So is that you conceding that fact that you are contradicting yourself? Or is it still not okay to contradict yourself? Because when a British poster does it you give him a slap on the wrist, but it's ok for you to do it? Is that a contradiction? I'm confused, too many contradictions.
“Oh please, it is well known the USA and Europe want to keep the rest of the world technologically retarded.”
”comments usually laden with confabulations, fibs, and outright lies and calumnies”
posted by tobias in another thread
May 31st, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dude, my left eyebrow is smarter than you. In every conceivable parameter, I am smarter than about 305 million Americans too. They cower in a discussion with me, usually by falling back to the safe haven of “USA, USA, USA”.
now what was it you were saying again
Europeans (and Americans) are arrogant, cocky, aloof, supercilious
i shall post this for the last time
pot, kettle!
48 yankeeboy (#)
May 31st, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 31st, 2012 - 03:17 pm
I haven't read the posts after your's yet, but I thought you ought to know about Mario Acuña, plasma researcher at NASA, Argentine, died 2009.
Brilliant fellow!
I can say I'm smarter because I am smarter. So now the truth is being arrogant?
May 31st, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't I hear all the time how Britain defeated argie in the Falklands? That's a fact, I never have said that is arrogant.
What I find arrogant is you people like to attack my country in terms of its culture, or language, or economy or whatever, and then don't like it when we strike back and point your economy, culture is not exactly ambrosial and pink fields of lavender.
You will never understand this point because you Europeans don't understand what it is to be humble, and not talk about other countries when you have so many problems at present.
@61
No, I was just suggesting that if YOU think I'm ugly and bastard, that doesn't mean you are no longer one too. Get it?
And yes I stand by the USA and Europe forcing smaller coutries to give up R&D so that Ratheon, Lockeed, Rafal, Siemmens, Finmecanica, etc...
That fact is irrefragable. You want the rest of the world dumb and ignorant otherwise you get China and India on a global scale, and you have enough problems already competing with them. Brazil is starting to wise up and ignore the treaties and going ahead with nuke subs, rockets, and other development.
64 tobias (#)
May 31st, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 31st, 2012 - 05:23 pm
Remember the SAC series of sattelites built for NASA by INVAP. Technologically we are in the front rank of countries, and that no one can deny!!!
@66
May 31st, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have stated that before, in a thread about “succesful argie companies that were partly run by the government”... yankeeboy dismissed it as “being too insignificant of a company”. That dude is an insecure bantam, you will never give credit about anything because he is just an insecure american troll who sees his country in steep decline on all fronts (and the decline began before Obama), and comes here to compensate. I just have fun with him.
The SAC series, A, B, C, and D are excepcionally leading edge technology for all EROS functions, and especiallt for MODIS, heatseeking, which is used for pinpointing forest fires world-wide. Theses are the good things Argentina is providing for the world.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone with a firm grip of the English language can easily make themselves look more intelligent than they actually are. I've said nothing much, just pointed out his own faults in his statements. If anything, for someone so “highly” intelligent, he's doing a grand job of making himself look silly.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Constantly berates people for contradicting themselves or being a contradiction while at the same time contradicting himself nearly every paragraph.
Dislikes us because of the fact we are arrogant and patronising, While being both arrogant and patronising at the same time(Along with the other traits he mentioned).
Accuses us of making ill informed statement's that we can't prove. Then makes a glaring one himself.
Tobias' is an Oxymoron.
Who would have thought Cristina going to the C24 would generate so much heat.
May 31st, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simon, good to hear from you, you have been quiet lately.
@68
May 31st, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are merely confusing me coming down to the prevalent level of intelligence here, and assuming thus I am not intelligent.
I tried the “act your intellect level” track, I even laid out my real opinions about the Falklands and how they should be left to self-determine, it got me nowhere but insulted and verbally abused by the other side in spite of the fact I agreed with them.
My only sin was to be Argentine.
So I said off with that, I'll deign myself to descend to a level that gets makes the point across.
Far less subtle, cogent, and scholarly, but that's what works here.
69 Condorito (#)
May 31st, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 31st, 2012 - 05:47 pm
Suffering from 'flu. So just browsing through the postings, and putting in the odd comment. Must away to luncheon, rather late, but hunger strikes (pun meant).
Tobias, why do you make every thread on here ALL ABOUT YOU? Do you not get any attention in real life? You would be really interesting to debate with if you could just drop the 'ME, ME, ME. Please everybody look at ME' desperate attitude.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not the one talking about my trips on every solitary opportunity.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact, none of you know anything about my personal life, yet I know snippets of many of yours, because it seems important to many of you to state that you travel, that you spend weekends in Europe, that you engineer, do financial analysis, have loads of money, shall I go on.
What do any of you know about me? Except what can't really be avoided, that I possess a formidable vocabulary.
Nothing. I haven't disclosed what my job is, if I go to school, where I go to school, my age, how much money I have, or don't, what educational background, my race, my religion or lack of, my sexual orientation, heck... for all you know I could be a she. Or a she that was a he. Or a she who became a he, but then crossdressed and decided she was lesbian afterall.
Just sayin.
63Simon68
May 31st, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mario Acuña, plasma researcher at NASA. Yes, magnetic anomolies and plasma research is high science but it is not rocket science and external ballistics, which is what I was on about.
57 tobias
I no longer respond to you. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME RESPONDING TO MY POSTS.
yankeeboy
May 31st, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I share a most of your views on CFK, but regarding this statement...
”Lots of SAs think they are smart or rich or privileged in their own country but here they're just maids or gardeners.“
...I was wondering if your “Argentinean friends” who you dined out with in Uruguay (a previous thread) fell in to the category of thinking they were rich, or if they were maids and gardeners.
@75
May 31st, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He asseverates he was in Uruguay in order to remain obfuscate, and not be forced to admit his dinner was on the Buquebus stevedore dock waiting for the late ferry at discount fare.
He would have us conceive that his dinners were beachfront at some seaside estancia 20 minutes removed from Jose Ignacio at tantivy speed.
LOL
@73 Bless you, you have revealed a great deal about yourself in your posts.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My work takes me to many countries including Argentina and I relate personal experiences to illustrate points raised in the topic of discussion. Feel free to ignore my posts if my lifestyle offends you.
48 yankeeboy Fred, not wonder you area poor salesman.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“An Argentine Partnership with NASA”
“When the Aquarius mission launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in June 2011, few Americans outside the Earth-science and space communities probably knew that the satellite itself came from Argentina”
http://www.nasa.gov/offices/oce/appel/ask/issues/46/46s_argentine_partnership.html
@77
May 31st, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps, Perhaps. (Passim), perhaps.
I merely find it uncanny, borderline preternatural, that your experiences have such a felicitious and germane applicability in very solitary topic of debate, infallibly so I would proffer.
There seems to be no theme or circumstance in which you are incapable or unable to draw some apropos commentary sourced from such an argosy of anecdotes.
Just saying.
My fellow American Yankeeboy.... My mother was born in Argentina I guess that makes me an half an RG as well as an American ... Guess what? I have a BS in physics from
May 31st, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Northwestern Class of 2005...(Astro physics and Nuclear as well) ...
And the victim thinking that this post is all about bashing people from Argentina all I can tell you is take the chip of your shoulder. Same for the islander regarding 40 million vs 3000.
Take the chip of your shoulder
Ouch, yankeeboy is being pelted by brickbats and genteel fulminations.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See, it doesn't make me smart to state yankeeboy was an arrogant twat/troll. There is nothing smart about stating the obvious, it requires no penetrating or discriminating 6th sense.
So perhaps people should trust my judgments of people a little more. Yankeeboy is an insecure young male, who sees the USA declining (this is a fact, it is not me engaging in Schadenfreude), so he needs to conpensate by stretching his conceit and ego here.
I see it in yahoo! all the time. Americans used to be secure people thus didn't need to put down other countries (at least at the person to person level of interaction). Now 90% of american posters in all forums I participate are incredibly tetchy, irascible, and exceedingly facile to rile.
Typical signs of an insecure nationality at the moment.
After #73 I'm still traumatised at the image of you with a stache, high-heels and a dress flicking through a copy of Busty Baps stealthily secreted away inside your thesaurus. O.o
May 31st, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, britninja, I have a thesaurus with me at all times. It's cache memory is instantaneous and runs on grilled meat.
May 31st, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I'll let you on with your whims and vagaries.
These days KFC need only to open a kindergarden in downtown BA to use it as an excuse to bring up “a strong case for Argentina’s claim over the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands”.
May 31st, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We all know how “stong” that case will be don't we? Look, if Argentina's claim over the Falklands is so strong, why haven't they taken it to an international tribunal or some international court to get it settled once and for all?
Even I can answer that one... They would loose.
I suspect though, that even if they did loose, we STILL wouldn't hear the last of it though, do you?
And so the merry-go-round turns yet again oh well, ho hum..... At least there will be cringe worthy moments of the Argentine President embarassing herself on the world stage ( again ) to entertain us all.
@83 It was just banter Tobi, dial down the snooty-o-meter to a 4 or 5 before you overload your cache ;)
May 31st, 2012 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@84 Yup the drip, drip, drip of water torture-esque tedium will go on and on until the mad bat is replaced by someone there who's sensible and rational and favours co-operation over nationalistic ranting... Won't hold my breath.
85 Britninja
May 31st, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love the :- “replaced by someone there who's sensible and rational and favours co-operation over nationalistic ranting” Bit!!! I LOL so hard, a little bit of wee came out.
Is there anyone like this IN Argentina? Nope......oh wait...hang on a minute!!! Yes there is!!
HEY!!! Simon68!!! Got a job for you mate!! Fancy being president?
72 Elaine B
May 31st, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like your post. LOL! Shall we discuss travel now and the good and bad attributes of the various airlines' first and business class cabins? Oh, and what about VIP lounges at airports around the world? That way Tobias can have another tantrum about how predictable we are.
I have it! The perfect pre-fight. It's a combination of several. Virgin Upper Class limo pick-up/enroute baggage drop, then into the Concorde Room in T5 (BA) but with Virgin's Upper Class Lounge breakfast menu (I usually always leave the UK on mid-morning flights, otherwise I'd say with Antigua's Outbound Lounge's afternoon menu) and finally taken straight on board just minutes before the door closes and pre-ordered G&T on my seat tray (new to Gold).
Next, my favourite hotel. Might even be an Argentine one. I don't know exactly what it is about the place but I just love the Marriott Plaza Hotel. I'll give it some more thought before I answer that one though. It might also have to be a hybrid.
This is all merely a ploy by CFK and Co to show their gullible public that they are players on the World's stage (when they're not) and to keep the Argentine population away from a few home truths namely:
May 31st, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(i) Inflation is running away at 30%; wage rises are running at 5%
(ii) the country is at 100th place in the World's index of corrupt nations
(iii) because of the 'appropriation' of YPF no one investors are being driven away
(iv) Argentina is at odds with the US, EU and a host of other countries over trade
So why not use the old chestnut, 'the Malvinas are Argentina's', wouldn't you use it if your backs to the wall?
1 tobias (
May 31st, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think this thread needs some humiliating derogation of argentine dead soldiers, as spineless, cowards
[You brought it up [again]
The blogg in question,
Why is CFK going to this meeting,
And if she is allowed,
Then a representative from great Britain and the Falklands,
Should also be there,
[Not to observe]
But also to refute any and all CFK lies,
Is this not fair.
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Google Translate from lanacion...The Argentine peso was devalued 30% in May in neighboring countries, since their contribution draws on the tip of the dollar selling casual. For U $ S 1 on the other side of the border Argentines pay between $ 6.3 and $ 6.98, according to a survey conducted by the NATION in the financial centers of these squares.
May 31st, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's 8/1 in the futures market...
Toby is all of your savings in Pesos?
“...since their contribution draws on the tip of the dollar selling casual. For U $ S 1 on the other side of the border...”
May 31st, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ouch, this sounds like a test run real-life application of the Kamasutra gone really wrong.
That actually made me laugh. I feel dirty now :P
May 31st, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh this will be fun!
May 31st, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We look forward to some ridiculous statements on “colonisation” and “militarisation”
C24 is a “talking shop” but may give CFK a photo-opp when “addressing” a “large” UN committee.
Bring your case to the ICJ and the fourth UN committee and we might (just- yawn!) take interest - if not please don't embarrass yourself (unless you wish to keep us amused) - actually, please make an a**e of yourself - it will be more fun that way. How are your dollar bank accounts doing, BTW?
If you read the whole article it sounds like Rgs are flooding into Bolivia to try to change every peso they can into U$. I guess they don't have the $ sniffing dogs up there yet....
May 31st, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is gentlemen
May 31st, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN has lost its way, it is totally out of place in the 21st century, and it is irrelevant and useless,
It is overrun by tin pot dictators, backed up by fools
That puts democracy way down the list of importance,
The UN has no power
And NATO has no political clout
Both need to be disbanded, and a new, better, organised and enforceable organisation should, and one day , will replace it,
But that tomorrow,
Today it sits on its bum trying to enforce de colonisation where none exists, and yet sits back and lets thousands of innocent die in Syria, be cause it has no power, and Russia and china are as guilty as the Syrians .
Just a opinion.
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@95 Briton
May 31st, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've hit the nail on the head - the UN has become totally ineffectual- always looking at the small stuff rathe than concentrating on the big issues.
Syria is a train crash in progress and the UN's efforts should be aimed in that direction rather than petulant and childish protests from certain “Third World ”countries
CFK attending meet on 14 June, but according to UN Special Committee work timetable (page 5), while there are meetings 11-15 June, it appears that it is at the meeting on 21 June where the topic will be ”The Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)”.
May 31st, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess if she shows up on 14 June, they'll probably let speak, but will be interesting to see what she says in her presentation about 14 June, 1982.
UN meet timetable: http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2
@87 Thanks. I was a little harsh on Tobias. If he could channel that angry and frustration into something positive he has the makings of a very useful member of society. Instead of begrudging everyone their experiences he should get out there amongst real people and travel; it would broaden his mind. Nothing, but nothing beats first-hand, real-life experience.
May 31st, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am no so enamoured with the Concorde Lounge at T5. Call me lazy but as most of my flights depart from B gates I tend to settle in the Business Lounge there. It is quieter too.
Of course, the G & T is a given.
Don't worry about my “channels”; I have more than enough of them to sublimate (that is the apposite word you were looking for, look it up), my “frustration” (which is called drive and personal ambition of betterment), into MANY things positive.
May 31st, 2012 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many of you may not admit it, but you know that having my vocabulary and knowing several languages is something that requires much dedication, time, and pertinacity. That on top of my other fields of learning (specially science).
My frustration sublimates quite well, thank you.
I am not worried about you, Tobias. Life experience will teach you well enough if you dare to try it.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just a kindly word; sounding like a menu in a pompous restaurant impresses no one here. Stop trying to sell yourself because I am not buying and I doubt anyone else is. And remember, self- praise is no praise.
You don't have to buy. Hate my guts, but one day most of you will have to admit that you left your encounter of me with a bit more insight into your native language.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if it is for a nanosecond, deep in the stygian depths of your scruples, you will thank me.
Lol well while we're trawling the Stygian depths, can you check down the back of the sofa and find some humility? Deal?
Jun 01st, 2012 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@102 LOL!
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@102
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is conforting to realize that at least I would know what it is I am looking for!
Asking you Europeans to search for the same would be like asking a fish to search for a moist corner.
:)
@99 tobias (who is now hoisted on his own diffeomorphism-invariant petard) ”Many of you may not admit it, but you know that having my vocabulary and knowing several languages is something that requires much dedication, time, and pertinacity. That on top of my other fields of learning (specially science).“
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would be ”especially science“ not ”specially science.” Compiling a dozen obscure words from a dictionary and then repeatedly using them in strained sentences is impressive, but the impression is not positive.
86 toooldtodieyoung (#)
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0May 31st, 2012 - 07:23 pm
Not on your nellie!!! There is no way I'd run for president of this poor benighted country. This is not from lack of patriotism, it's because I believe it is impossible after 70 years of corruption, misgovernment, military dictatorships, terrorism (both state and political), this country is only saveable by someone with youthfull vigor and unbreakable honesty. I may have the second but certainly lack the first.
I didn't say I was God. Next time I will ask permission to make a mistake. Special, I apologize... Next time don't make an “especial” post to tell me that. I'm not that special.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you see me pointing out your mistakes or other mistakes? That is not what I have ever done to anyone, I just use more vocabulary and elocutions which is different entirely than being hypercritical or captious with nothing positive to offer.
I find it amazing how so many people are offended at my vocabulary size. This one really did hit a nerve. You may all say it doesn't affect you, it does not impress you, but you all keep making it an issue so at some point one has to conclude otherwise.
BTW, it's more than a “dozen” words and please give examples of “strained” sentences. All the sentences are dovetailed with the arcane vocabulary just as well as with the everyday vocabulary, there is no shoehorning.
Just admit it, you are unconfortable with this.
107 tobias (#)
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:47 am
Not in the slightest. I do think you're being a tiny bit pedantic, but that is only my opinion. I really do like some of your English Language usages, they are really quite quaint.
Actually on several occasions you use your vocabulary absolutely correctly.
Appreciated. I will now consider the matter hitherto discussed closed. I will continue to make usufruct of my vocabulary acquired through effort, lucubration, and privation of wordly pleasures. I will not back away from it as so many people with treasure-trove vocabularies are force to, by the 99% with mere average vocabulary size.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the #1 complaint of people in the top 1-2% of this category, the fact that naturally so few people comprehend many of the terms, but mainly that they are made to feel bad for using it, so many shy away. I think that is a form of discrimination to be honest.
Anyway, that was that.
Whew glad that's over. In case you get anymore urges though, just remember - *nobody* is allowed to say “hitherto” unless they're wearing a top hat and monocle. ಠ_ರ
Jun 01st, 2012 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good thing you don't know Spanish.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I still use the preposition “cabe”. Ask any Spanish speaker, they don't even know such a preposition exists.
El parque de diversiones se localiza cabe la autopista.
I wonder if any of the Spanish speakers here would even know where the amusement park lies in relation to the expressway.
Taking the expressway to the amusement park...? Bloody hell are you STILL ogling that kama sutra? You'll go blind :P
Jun 01st, 2012 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I only ogle femmes. I prefer expressway to motorway for some reason.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, since the subject came up, I invite all Spanish speakers to revive the use of “cabe” (as in “Ella yace cabe mio”), and the future subjunctive. It sounds terrible to use the imperfect or present subjunctive for a future event “Cuando me visites hablaremos” .... use the future:
“Cuando me visitares, hablaremos.”
#106 “this country is only saveable by someone with youthfull vigor and unbreakable honesty”
Jun 01st, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0So glad Cristina has both =)
More like rigor mortis and unbelievable nuttiness.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This country is only saveable by someone with youthful vigour and unbreakable honesty,,
Jun 01st, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come come old chap, she is but a primrose, in her prime, with the petals falling orff
As for honesty, she utters more inaccuracies that an encyclopaedia.
Honesty according to CATO is a man dedicated to the obedience of the ten commandments.
Mind you, to be fair, as she is a woman, she probably exempts herself from this petty irrelevances .
Is this not true .
mmmm
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I wish I was under that table....mmmmmm!
Jun 01st, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not with her on top of you chummy
Jun 01st, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So when the FI delegate gets up to speak what will KFC do? Will she get up and walk out in protest or will she stick her fingers in her ears and say 'LA LA LA LA. It's not happening. This person does not exist'?
Jun 01st, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I no longer respond to tobias as it just feeds his self-obsession and allows him a grandstand that he is most certainly not entitled to.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If, as Elaine quite rightly says, he got out into the real world and stopped trying so hard with this 'I'm better than anyone' and 'you will learn something of your language from me' nonsense he may, in time, turn out to be a nice chap.
“Nothing. I haven't disclosed what my job is, if I go to school, where I go to school, my age, how much money I have, or don't, what educational background”
Jun 01st, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“vocabulary and knowing several languages is something that requires much dedication”
”That on top of my other fields of learning (specially science). ”
@118 Your right there. I'm only interested in juan.
Jun 01st, 2012 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@121
Jun 01st, 2012 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that information telling you my occupation or métier? Does it reveal my school of matriculation? my age? my net worth?
It just tells you my fields of interest as a person. I may be exceedingly leery about releasing information on the internet, but not outright paranoid.
All those who think this is going to achieve anything, put your hands up. More smoke and mirrors, more deception, more coniving, more twisting, more deception, more self dellusion. Not going to happen, talk to has many G's has you like. It is the other letters of the alphabet you should be talkiing to, try starting with the FI's.
Jun 02nd, 2012 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't, except the playground bully creating a loud noise. The Argentines can spout as many distortions of history as they like, but the ultimate authority, the ICJ would need to see solid evidence, which the Argentine's fairy stories lack.
Jun 02nd, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0#116 “Honesty according to CATO is a man dedicated to the obedience of the ten commandments.
Jun 02nd, 2012 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mind you, to be fair, as she is a woman, she probably exempts herself from this petty irrelevances”
Worked for Maggie...
126 British_Kirchnerist
Jun 02nd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very good
126 Blind_Scottie_Kirchner
Jun 02nd, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but Maggie had bigger balls than you AND she hammered your commie Jock Mates in the union, didn't she?
TMBA couldn't hold a candle to Margaret in terms of intellect and strength of character.
Pity Camoron has got about as much as your 'queen' and that's FA.
Why does Toby,
Jun 02nd, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come up with these big amorous complicated extraordinary upper class, snobbish out blandish words,
Is Toby trying to impress us by any chance,
I spent 5 years back and forth to oxford,
And I am not impressed.
………….
Long live the diamond jubilee
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So CFK is going to humilate Argentina once more on the world stage, by lying, crying and BEGGING for help over the Falklands 'non-issue'.
Jun 03rd, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, I do believe that CFK might just use this 'trip' to scarper before the angry mob turn up baying for her blood once they realise she and her inept government has stolen all their money and ruined the country.
It'll be interesting to see. :0)
she is not humiliating Argentina. Your own government of colonialist are a joke. The American/African Government is the laughing stock of the world. All South America laughs at you.
Jun 03rd, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@131 - Marcos. Did I touch a nerve? Poor boy.
Jun 03rd, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No self respecting leader of a government would directly address a small powerless committee, they would be sorting out problems at home, no avoiding them.
agreed
Jun 03rd, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New article just released by Pascoe and Pepper:
Jun 03rd, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“False Falklands History at the United Nations: how Argentina misled the UN in 1964 and still does”:
falklandshistory.org/sites/default/files/false-falklands-history.pdf
then perhaps the UN and the OAS and the rest of the free world. put this little puppy in her place .
Jun 03rd, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I take it by reading the posts by tobias, that he may have forgot to take his daily dose of retnol! not the best thing to do especially when he may be cramming for his school exams. Someone tell his Mum for goodness sake
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@134 The authors give Argentina too much credit by their title. There is no doubt in my mind that Argentina used a climate of post-war/cold war anti-British sentiment to advance its own objectives. No one was deceived by what was said by the representative; it was a useful fiction. Also, if one reads the declaration carefully, one can see that it endorses conclusions presented in a Chapter of the C24 original report. To understand what those really were one ought to read the Chapter. So far I have failed to track it down on the UN e-Library System or in any university database. Not even that acknowledged expert Think (he of the multiple identities many beginning with T) seems to have a copy. If anyone does have a copy I would be grateful to have sight of it or a pointer to where it can be seen.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unfortanatly
Jun 04th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tobias, has at least 3 other aliases,
and uses them, against us,
setting lies then leaving to laugh,
not as clever as one thinks .
mm
@138 Take care. You also are under suspicion due to your idiosyncratic style and just a bit too clever thinking.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0me. what me , good old briton,
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0never old chap never
Wouldn't it be rather fun if that too was a lie and we had both left to laugh last night. Sadly, I only left to sleep after posting 139 but it was eight solid hours, which was nice. Time to move on to another thread, I think.
Jun 05th, 2012 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or should that be you Think?
thinking abt it, it is a possability,
Jun 05th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mind you, working for the CIA throws up many challenges every day,
still back to blooging. lol
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