Argentina claims Falklands and slams UK for ‘illegal exploitation of natural resources’
Ahead of a week of intense diplomatic exchanges and on the Day of the Affirmation of the Argentine Rights Over the Malvinas, Islands and Antarctic Sector, the Argentine Government once again ratified its claim over the Islands’ sovereignty and questioned the UK over the “illegal exploitation of their natural resources” and the “increased militarization of the South Atlantic region.”
In a press release the Foreign Ministry recalls the date in 1829 when the interim government from the Province of Buenos Aires under Brigadier General Martin Rodriguez signed the decree creating the “Political and Military Command of the Malvinas Islands and adjoining islands to Cape Horn and the Atlantic Sea”
It then insists that since the emergence of the Argentine Republic as an independent nation, it never dropped its sovereignty claims over austral territories and adjoining maritime spaces not did it permit any power, continental or extra-continental from exercising acts of jurisdiction over those territories and spaces”
The press release adds that “the Argentine sovereignty on the Malvinas Islands and their dependencies was interrupted by a belligerent act carried out by British forces on January 3rd, 1833.”
On that day “local authorities and the Argentine population were expelled from the Malvinas, while being replaced by British subjects”, and “today the Argentine Government and population calmly and firmly insist on the inalienable right they have on this matter”.
“Despite Argentina’s permanent will to negotiate, the United Kingdom continues to ignore the international community’s calls” to engage in dialogue, the press release adds enumerating a long list of organizations such as the UN, OAS, Ibero-American summits, UNASUR, Mercosur, Celac plus the summits of South American countries with their counterparts from Arab and African countries.
“Not only they (UK) maintain a colonial situation, but they insist on an endless amount of illegal acts through the illicit exploitation of Argentine renewable and non renewable natural resources, as it consolidates an increasing militarization in the South Atlantic that is offensive to the entire region,” it concludes.
Later this week a delegation from the Falkland Islands, two members from the elected Legislative Assembly and two young professional Islanders will be making their case before the UN Decolonization Committee of C24, while Argentina will be represented by none else than President Cristina Fernandez.
This will be the firs time a head of state makes a presentation before the several decades old C24.
The members of the Special Committee are Antigua and Barbuda, Bolivia, Chile, China, Republic of Congo, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Dominica, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Fiji, Grenada, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Mali, Nicaragua, Papua New Guinea, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sierra Leone, Syria, Timor-Leste, Tunisia, United Republic of Tanzania and Venezuela.
The C24 is chaired by Ecuadorean ambassador Diego Morejon-Pazmiño and Syria’s Bashar Jaafari will be acting as rapporteur.








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Best if she take care of the falling economy of her country that´s becoming a recesion next month.....
History is writen by the victor :-)
The real events are going on in the Falklands and on the streets of
Buenos Aires and other Argentine cities with the 'cacerolazos' .
Maybe its time the UK leverages its might against Argentina to teach it a lesson? I say this because I'd love the UK to force Argentina to back-off from its aggressive and ridiculous stance but in fact its far better in the long term to keep its current stance of letting Argentina implode under its own ridiculous lies and failed policies on the international stage.
After all we know Argentina like any bully will of course cry wolf if the UK acts strongly against it, bunch of cowards. Heck they claim the UK is acting aggressively by having a SINGLE ultra-modern warship on patrol in the region.
Ok.
I hereby claim the islands of Hawaii an surrounding territories for Monkey Magic. I do not recognise the American rights to sovereignty.
In 3 years time, I will visit Hawaii with 20 friends in November during which time I will murder one of the other members of my party.
When the Americans remove us from Hawaii, let's say on January 3rd, I will forget about my claim for about 100 years.
Then my great great grandchildren will pick it up and try and negotiate. When failing, they will mount an invasion costing 1000 lives. After that, we will bitch and moan to anyone who listens.
The amazing thing is, we will find none of this embarrassing or humiliating.
This os madness.
No this is argentina:)
Yup, we missed a trick there back in '82
That would've put an end to all this nonsense. Even the entertainment value is starting to wear thin
@ 6 To true UK won Argentina lost
@ 10 She will fail on all counts
Anyway. The exploitation of natural resources around the Falkland Islands is legal because we say it is. As I remember there was a time when Argentina also thought so, until they went back on their word.......as per usual.
Still nothing new here, just more regurgitated nonsense from an excitable, incompetent, probably corrupt, Evita wannabe . Wish mercorpress would do more stories/pics on the Falkland Islands themselves, the loyal, hardy inhabitants, booming economy and beautiful unspoilt scenery.
We could've got them to sign a treaty making them drop their erroneous claims, but when has Argentina ever honoured a treaty?
I think it's a good idea, because it gives us more ammunition to use against them, but it wouldn't shut them up. They would then be bleating to the world how the. Evil British Empire forced them to sign it etc...
Someone (can remember who) on this site predicted that CFK would suddenly turn up the rhetoric on the Falklands due to all the unrest in Argentina. This time, however, I don't think it will work.
I'd be surprised if CFK returns to Argentina after her shopping trip to NYC. The lynch mobs will probably be out in full force by then.
:-)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:57 am
I don't think it would have made any difference. Argentina would ignore it as they ignore every other agreement they make if they think it doesn't suite them.
I would like the UK/FI governments to be more proactive- send copies of the real history to every embassy in SA ,offer to go to the International Court of Justice where Argentina would be told that they have no legal claim over the Falklands.Call their bluff.
That is not the British way, we are comfortable in our position and stance. Leave the hysteria to the hysterical
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:59 am
Good point well made.
I think we should be told.
epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
As Churchill is being quoted at the moment, I would say Some turkey, some neck (and of course there are certain similarities in her appearance - all that excess skin has to go somewhere)
(which he made in response to German propaganda that they would wring Britain's neck like a turkey's)
Prove to the world that Argentina's claim is legal and valid. Some evidence? Actual evidence, not something that you and Timid man just made up? Oh you can't produce actual evidence?
I know what, let's roll the clock back 18o years, shall we?
Okay, first you communists get out of China and return the Emperor to the throne, then Russia reinstate the Czar.
Britain, reclaim the Empire, and Argentina give back all that land you stole from Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay. USA leave Hawaii immediately! France regain your colonies in indo-china.
Now let's look at Argentina's claim again. Nope, the islands are still British.
Sorry CFK, you fail again and again. Pathetic really aren't you?
#30 I think that Churchillian quote is quite appropriate actually. Eveyone on here is saying turkey neck (not what I would call the beautiful Cristina of course) will soon be gone; when she completes this term with many more achievements to her name, and perhaps is elected to another, you'll be havng to say some turkey, some neck =)
Btw thanks mercopress for posting such a lovely picture Cristina the Great, it really shows a perfect combination of brains and beauty =)
Fair points, however With Gibraltar kicking off again the UK is being portrayed as the big bad Colonialists ,the geographical argument, however spurious, appears to be winning over the historical one.
With Brazil building 7 nuclear powered submarines and enlarging its airforce more resources would be needed to defend the FIs if it became a 'Continental issue'.
We were also comfortable with our position in 1982, look what happened.
Argentina do not see Falkland Island Oil as continental resources, they see it as THEIR resources. The Falkland Islanders own the oil not the UK. The corporation tax will be payable to the FIG. The profits will go to the oil companies.
The oil companies in Argentina are who? BP (British) and YPF (stolen from the Spanish).
So, the continental issue is false as the proceeds stay in South America. Anybody who wants to trade with the FIs as a partner of equal rights in South America is welcome.Perhaps they can join MERCOSUR or is that only for the Latino master race.
The only proceeds Britain will get are the costs of defence of the islands, which would not be necessary of the Argentines were not so aggressive.
So...
historical claim prior to 1823....bollocks
Jewitt....Pirate on the make
Vernet...Independent, preferred British sovereignty
Mestevier....murdered in from of his family
Pinedo...forced to leave after 3 months of illegal occupation
Geographic argument...irrelevant
Resources argument...irrelevant...
next??
Vernet's 1828 venture (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Vernet )was basically a private venture and he was careful to approach both British and the United Provinces of the River Plate first. The Argentine penal colony was there illegally and mutinied involving a particularly nasty episode where a man was murdered in cold blood in front of his family. The Brits went there to restore order in 1833. The important point was that the civilian Argentine population was invited to remain - all but four (none of them Argentinian) did so and only the military were expelled. This means that the Falklanders are not transplanted Britons (another spurious Argentine claim) - they are also descended from the Argentine settlers and there are subtle Spanish influences in the Falklands patois (eg camp for countryside etc). The 1850 act of settlement, although not specifically mentioning the Falklands, dealt with any outstanding issues. I doubt if Argentina would have signed it if they felt there was still a claim and this is reinforced by the colour scheme used on maps originating from Argentina in 1882 with the islands being clearly separate from Argentina. Spain recognised UK sovereignty in 1863 (despite having its own issues regarding Gibraltar- which became more vociferous during the Franco era just as Peron did with the Falklands claim in 1941) as do all EU member states
If people want to talk sovereignty, I would actually put South Georgia/ South Sandwich Islands as item number 1 on the agenda and see how they try and justify that one - then I would talk about the Falklands
Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:29 am
Of course I can only speak for myself, but I am certainly fed to the back teeth with this stupid woman's histrionics.
I also think that the fairly massive crowds participating in the cacerolazos are doing so because of corruption, lack of security, economic chaos, infringement of human rights, etc. So far I've not heard a single person say anything about the Malvinas.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:55 am
Ooh! Me me me. I know!
It counts for something if is supports the Malvinista argument and it counts for nothing if it doesn't. Do I get a prize?
Also, how or why would the islanders (who really you need on your side) would ever chose to be argentinan is beyond me. You make there lives hell even when they want to co-operate on fishing etc. Your out for all you can get Argentina ... not on our watch sister!!
Not exactly a compelling counter argument if you ask me and C24 is irrelevant but because they mostly have an axe to grind they will more than likely give KFC a favourable hearing and try to make the Falkland Isladers feel as unwelcome as possible.
Now there's a thought! ;-)
Argentina is like a stroppy teenager: who can never admit they're wrong, and the world is against them, and it's not fair, and we're going to sulk until the evil British let us have our way!
And when that doesn't work we'll 'hang out' with our mates (the rest of South America) and tell them all our woes, and then they'll support us with, 'yeah', 'I know' and 'whatever'.
See typical stroppy teenager.
You wrote: history is written by the winners only... woow, what a great use of brain... I believe you have not read the origin of power.
1 inteligence
2 wealth
3 violence
I don'need to explain the one you are using over the islands
you took ( or at least you tried using 3 ) Buenos Aires Twice, then the islands ( what number you have used, ?? you guess .. ) and you are still there. What the hell are u doing 13.000 km away from your place ?
ufffff. difficoult to undertand by a simian like me...
have a great day
Huh?
Is your google translate working properly because you have just posted a bunch of words which taken together make no sense.
However, regarding the story. It if the Falkland Islands Government that is exploiting its own resources, not the UK.
And since those islanders have been living on the Falklands continuously for 9 generations, then they have every legal right to do so.
So maybe your president should STFU and turn her attention to the real problems that Argentina faces. Namely that your economy is fecked and she should be doing something about it.
www.elpais.com.uy/12/06/11/predit_645767.asp
It's not just us they don't like.
My Spanish is none too hot but peronista-imperialista says it all to me
Actually, is this not the distraction to the protests that we saw in B.A? In time honoured tradition, as soon as something happens that calls Ol' turkey necks leadership into question, doesn't she wheel this same, tired, boring old rant out.
Meanwhile in other news, a big shout out to Tino Best, who set a new world record for the highest test score while batting at number 11 yesterday in the rain-affected third test match in Birmingham, falling just five short of his first test centuary.
Your comment has been reported as abuse for failing to comply with the rules. Learning the world's premier language, English, will be good for you!
Jun 11th, 2012 - 03:28 pm
With your permission Gordo, I'll translate for you.
How long must we put up with the clownishness of this Argentine government? They say that all the countries in the world support their sovereingty claim to the Falklan/Malvinas when in reality only a few countries support the idea of negociation.
How long must we put up with hearing the lies of the Argentine government when they repeat their false representations of historic events? For example, they say that the argentine troops and citizens were expelled from the Islands in 1833 when in reality the majority stayed VOLUNTARILY and only two married couples left, with no pressure at all to travel to Montevideo and not to Buenos Aires. How long are we going to hear the false argument that the treaty of perfect friendship - the Arana - Southern treaty of 1850 - has no importance?
Lies from a band of liars!
I think the Malvinistas/nationalists should be constantly reminded of how big, varied, resource rich and beautiful Argentina is and how lucky they are to be in that situation.
Argentina has
17 x more land PER PERSON than Britain has
10 x more land PER PERSON than Europe has
2 x more land PER PERSON than America has
25 x more land PER PERSON than Japan has
and 1 x half times more land per person than Chile or Brazil has.
And also they should be aware of how badly their country has been managed especially over the last 70 years.
Really - In 70 years of Peronism what developments has Argentina made?! Relative political and economic stability? Fail. Tackling poverty despite Argentina's embarrassment of riches? Fail. Tackling culture of corruption and inequality of wealth. Fail.
If Peronism was a horse it would have been shot long ago.
Grow up Malvinistas/nationalists and take responsibility for the country and culture you allegedly love.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:33 pm
Thanks Tobers for the reminder. It just goes to show that this country, Argentina, has the potential to be the richest country in the Américas and instead it lives in the year 1833, almost 200 years in the past, while it goes to economic hell in 2012.
It is totally unbelievable that my people should be so easy to fool, and at the head of the list of idiots, the malvinistas.
Thank you Juan Domingo Perón for killing the goose that lays the golden eggs!!!
From the way the nationalists keep trotting it out, yes, but I think the eggs are really lead, as they don't shine any longer, and are fooling less Argentines every time the politicos put them before the people.
Any issues regarding anything else should be put on the back-burner, as they aren't going anywhere.
The fact that CFK and co keeping flogging the dead horse that is the Falklands Issue, is purely an illusion designed to divert people's attention away from the terrible state of the economy. And like all illusions, this one will fade into nothing, leaving CFK's inept handling of the economy laid bare for all to see.
Then heads will roll.
49 I lived in Patagonia for many years, my people too, so what... ?? I have no right over Argenina, just over my inheritance, you have just 9 generations.... come on... you are english, your passport says it. Give the islands back to Argentina ( Roger Waters)
sorry for my bad english, I can also use 4 diferent languages, you might choose, mapuche, spanish, french, portuguese and some english.
Bit reminiscent of Saddam eh?
Hope it ends up much the same: with all the Argies attending strung up on trees.
So it goes, we live in the dream world of kirchnerism and malvinism.
I hope so.
Import of foreign books might be banned (how nazi-ish) but now we are in the digital information age I sincerely hope that Argentines will start seeing and accepting that the Las Malvinas issue and peronism/nationalism are nothing but antiquated political tools to manipulate the masses and that its not about Argentina vs the World.
I fail to see what CFK expects to get from this utterly ineffective meeting in NY. Its baffling. Surely she cant be so deluded as to see that in this moment in time the people are starting getting to get restless and tired of the impotent rhetoric.
Hipolyte
we lived in patagonia before the roman empire educated your people in England.
The English lived in England before the Spanish our people. Your point?
I also have Mapuche ancestry, so what? I doesn’t reduce the rights of the Falkland islanders to live in their land.
Does it reduce the rights of your mother’s family to live in Argentina? No, didn’t think so.
As you should know the Mapuche moved in to Argentina from Chile as a result of pressure from the Spanish. The Mapuche in Chile and Argentina suffered wars against them by the Chilean and Argentina states. The Mapuche were victims of Argentinean expansion the same way the Falklands would be if not protected. If you support the Mapuche cause you should support the Falkland Islanders.
The appearance before the C24 is ridiculous, al she can do is trot out the same lies as usual, scream and shout a bit about militarization of the South Atlantic, amd that's about it.
What that has to do with the decolonization committee, I just don't know, after all her interest is in sovereignty and colonization rather than independence.
Just another proof that all peronists are quite loopy.
“we lived in patagonia before the roman empire educated your people in England.”
The English lived in England before the Spanish our people. Your point?
mi punto es que siendo mapuche, no tengo derechos por sobre mi estado ya fuera chile o argetnina la mia es una nación, los islenos no tiene derechos por sobre el estado argentino, solo sobre su nacion kelper es decir sobre sus costumbres, pero no sobre la tierra que habitan y que le pertenece por derecho y no por fuerza a otro país.
I also have Mapuche ancestry, so what? I doesn’t reduce the rights of the Falkland islanders to live in their land.
el tema es que NO es su tierra, ya que tuvo duenos legales antes de ellos, por ende son ocupantes o pobladores, no propietarios.
Does it reduce the rights of your mother’s family to live in Argentina? No, didn’t think so.
Los derechos de mi madre son distintos a los de mi padre, ella nació de italianos en argentina que vinieron en forma PACIFICA a poblar esta tierra patagónica y allí conoció a mi padre que es mapuche, los islenos no llegaron en 1833 en forma pacífica, HENCE todo argumento es NO válido.
As you should know the Mapuche moved in to Argentina from Chile as a result of pressure from the Spanish. The Mapuche in Chile and Argentina suffered wars against them by the Chilean and Argentina states.
Error, los mapuches siempre vivimos en lo que luego se conoció como Chile o Argentina, nos movíamos todos los anos para realizar la veranada y la invernada a ambos lados de los andes
The Mapuche were victims of Argentinean expansion ....
El tema es que luego de dejar la ilegal guarnición de port egmond, en 17... los ingleses dieron el reconocimiento a argentina como país en 1825 por ende no hay expansión argentina por sobre las islas, mas diría yo , de UK a 13000 km
If you support the Mapuche cause...
nada que ver un implantado con armas con un natural.
hay Dios... cuanta locura
Educate yourselves. The truth stands alone and does not constitute an ideology. Have the courage to look for the truth wherever it lies not just facts that you think reinforce your ideologies. The truth is you just sound like servants to the peronist system. Like disposable pawns relaying rhetorical -pavadas-
“if you are mapuche like me I will replay to you in Spanish”
Spanish, why not Mapundung?
Oh that’s right because the Spanish (and other Europeans) massacred, raped and enslaved our ancestors.
I will reply in English because it is the norm for this forum.
I won’t answer all your points individually, but they are all basically wrong.
Your argument is that it was ok for the Spanish to arrive in the Americas and take land from the Mapuche (and many others) with violence, but it is not ok for Anglo settlers to arrive and live in an uninhabited piece of lands.
They have lived there longer than most people have lived in Argentina. It is there land by the same logic that Argentina is your country and Chile is mine.
And before anyone says it, I'm not actually stating that Clinton was best for the US at the time (although there have been worse presidents in modern history).
72 Well well I see that ...
1 you will not answer.... because you have no arguments ?
2 Mapuches did not have and does not have a legal constitution, we are a NATION, not a Estado, do you understand the difference????, if you don't then I will not be your teacher i believe you must go to high school again...
ps I can write in Mapuche, but not as good as in spanish, sorry if I was lazy on this .
Piss of Chrissy go clean a toilet somewhere.
Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
'Maximo Kirchner, 36, son of President CFK was hospitalised in the early hours of this morning at the Austral Hospital in BA district of Pilar due to a Septic arthritis on his right knee. The founder member of La Campra youth movement arrived after a special emergency flight in Tango 01 Presidentila airplane accompanied by the Head of State.'
Loadmouthed. !
If you are Mapuche Chilean ,I am from Chagossians !
Memorize well below verses..
1) Concealment is a theme which runs through the official documents,
2) Concealment of the existing permanent population,
3) Concealment of the status of invaded peoples,
4 ) Concealment of the full extent the responsibility of the UK Government,
5) Concealment of the fact that many of the Chagossians and all other present colony peoples were citizens of the UK and the Colonies.
Why is the President cancelling her official duties AGAIN. Max-sized Max is 36 not 6. Unless his life is in imminent danger she should get on with her job. He is a big boy now, a really BIG boy.
The flight was a cover to move the dollars from their hotels in the south to BsAs ready for the 'flight' (never to return) to New York.
Anybody want to take bets on it? :o)
Oh Malvi-baby, Malvi-baby!!! Your president is about to run out on you!!! In the same way that rats will always abandon a sinking ship.
You still don't see do you? Her time in office has been nothing but a car crash for your country, She has been a thief and a liar. She has stolen from you, each and everyone of you. She has driven your country into the ground and used this nonsense over the Falklands Islands as a smoke screen every time she makes a mistake or to cover her tracks while she steals something else!!!
It must work though, because you are still posting the same old rubbish instead of saying Oi!!!! KFC!!! gives us our money back!!
You are young and full of so much anger and fire, that's a good thing, but you've picked the wrong target. Go get your president and hold her to account for all the crimes she has commited in the name of her people
Come on Malvi-baby!! I know we don't see eye-to-eye on somethings, well on most things actually, well ok, EVERYTHING, but listen to what the other Agrentinian posters are saying on here.... Get together with simon68, he talks a lot of sense, you would do well to listen to what he has got to say and then, Please, please Malvi-baby, Go and get your country back, now is your chance to shine Malvi-baby!!! go for it!!!
www.bfbs.com/news/falkland-islands/islanders-firm-message-president-58093.html
Calm down guys, don’t you know the truth, when you hear it,
tut tut , tutertytut .
if the argentine, Foreign Ministry recalls the date in 1829 when the interim government from the Province of Buenos Aires under Brigadier General Martin Rodriguez signed the decree creating the “Political and Military Command of the Malvinas, then so be it, the guy was there for fxuck sake,
who is going to call CFK a lie, if she says she owns the fxcking Malvinas, then SHE OWNS THE MALVINAS ,.
As long as she understands that the British Falklands are British
p/s
Briton=how many Argies doe it take to change a light bulb,
CFK= what’s a light bulb,,
Do you know what a lie is?
CFK what’s a lie,
Can you prove this document exists?
CFK= yes-well maybe , possibly-we lost it ,
No offence was intended, in the making of these silly jokes about the mighty CFK .
.
I didn't claim to be Mapuche. I said I had Mapuche ancestry, which, if you have visited my country, will know is true of ca. 70% of my compatriots.
www.facebook.com/Britain1592
I wonder why Marcos tries to divert the conversation away from widespread social upheaval and the inevitable exile of his beloved cream bun eating leader and his mother.
I wonder even more why you all get sucked in by his sh!t diego garcia chat.
trying to convince the argies to see sense looks impossible and is becomes less of a pleasure less entertaining
Self determination, only way that leads to a peaceful, permanent solution of Falklands’ dispute. End of
What the lies to come out about the 1833 claim, and the made up RG history that is all a load of cods whallop.
On that day “local authorities and the Argentine population were expelled from the Malvinas, while being replaced by British subjects”
I hope the Falkland Island delegates at C24 will have the guts to point out that the 'local authorites' had been on the Islands for less than three months.
Hardly a long established administration.
I also hope they have the guts to point out that every civilian from what is now Argentina stayed on the islands, the only civilians that left for South America were not from what is now Argentina. I also hope the Islanders will have the guts to point out that Captain Onslow's visit did not bring any British subjects with it, to settle the Islands.
If the Islanders have the guts to point out to the C24 the historical innacuracies, of the above statement(never mind all the rest),it is true of course that the current C24 will not take any notice.
But how humiliating (as the Argentine Government have no regard for the Falkland Islanders whatsoever), would it be for KFC to be corrected by the Islanders at an international meeting, without HMG by their side! This I believe would sent a HUGE message to the world of the increasing self-autonomy that the Islanders enjoy and that the Argentines should wake up to the fact that the FIG exists however much they try to pretend it doesn't. And FIG are in line with the UN's ideas of de-colonialisation.
Only this year the UN Secretary General's message to theC24 was to encourage de-colonialisation using Self-Determination and independence. Therefore if the C24 ignore the Islanders, I hope they (and HMG), protest to the Secretary General, and ask if the agenda of the C24 (ie encouraging self-determination), has been changed.
Where all other goals are subjugated to the pursuit of greed,,and profit,
Is this not true .
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i repeat History is writen by the Victor
Not sure, but i am guessing the the history section of most libraries world wide are a bit thin on RG history! Am guessing one shelf, and then obviously mentioned in the History of Britain section under the 20th Century :-)))))))
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