Saturday, July 14th 2012 - 07:46 UTC

Venezuela/Argentina sign military cooperation in framework of Unasur Defence Council

Venezuelan Defence minister Henry Rangel Silva and his Argentine peer Arturo Puricelli signed on Friday a cooperation agreement to further advance in the integration of the two armed forces in the framework of the Unasur Defence Council.

Rangel and  Puricelli and at the signing ceremony on the deck of ARA Libertad

“For us it is essential, we were really missing having this first agreement with Venezuela” said Puricelli on Friday following the ceremony at the Venezuelan port of La Guaira where the Argentine navy tall ship ARA Libertad on a world tour called specially for the occasion.

Puricelli said that the decision of the Argentine government is to continue advancing in defence cooperation with Venezuela and above all “with the training of our officers”.

“Precisely the presence of our ARA Libertad in Venezuela is part of that integration target which both our countries have established” in the framework of the Union of South American Nations.

The bilateral agreement also includes areas such as science, technology development and joint military exercises between the armed forces of the two countries.

Minister Rangel said that the “first purpose of Unasur and the Defence Council is to ensure peace in South America”, a mission which is already taking place with the visit of an “important vessel from the Argentina Navy”.

The Venezuelan minister also revealed that currently there are over 80 officers from the Bolivarian Armed Forces of Venezuela training in Argentina.

Puricelli on Thursday was received at the Ministry of Defence in Caracas where he said that the current defence situation is entirely different: “we are living in a process of democracy in the whole of Latin America”.

But he also recalled the path of unity displayed by the liberators of South America from the Spanish colonial empire and “which is now reflected by our presidents when they created Unasur”.

“If our peoples and us officials manage to strengthen peace in the region, most surely we will be able to advance with integration and in this way execute a concrete defence of all resources which the South American continent holds”, concluded the Argentine minister.
 

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1 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:16 am Report abuse
Good to see two left wing countries move to further unity =)
2 Joe Bloggs (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:27 am Report abuse
Yes, it is good to see two regional neighbours co-operating. Let's see if it will happen between Argentina and the Falklands. CFK has offered to co-operate in air links and fisheries. The Falklands government have accepted the offer to talk but it's been all quiet ever since. Maybe CFK has bigger problems to worry about at present but our offer is on the table.

1 BK

What's your view on the Argentine super-inflation situation? Is it nothing but a lie or has CFK devised some new form or economic best-practice that the world's mere mortal economists can't even understand?
3 War Monkey (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:31 am Report abuse
Maybe Argentina should be concentrating more on problems at home:

www.diplomaticourier.com/news/latin-america/988-argentina-fact-or-fiction
4 Britworker (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:31 am Report abuse
I can just see Turkey neck pushing Chaves round in a wheelchair at some old Russian naval graveyard saying “I want that one” :-)
5 War Monkey (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:46 am Report abuse
...... And Chavez has got more important things to think about too:

www.diplomaticourier.com/news/latin-america/370

Surely the name of the game is to defend when you need to. Neither Argentina nor Venezuela is under any credible threat from anybody. Although I do notice they do an awful lot of threatening. All those shiny new toys Chavez has bought are not to defend Venezuela but to use as a big stick to cow neighbours into submission. This is what KFC aspires to.
6 mclayoscar (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 09:22 am Report abuse
5

It will not scare the UK in the slightest. Should they both attack the Falklands at the same time British military technology can more than handle the pair of them.

Yes I think it will be an alliance to intimidate it neighbours.

I cannot see Brazil joining them though, they are doing very well with the USA/UK/Europe, they would not want to be seen as part of the Chavez/Fernandez group.

Also if the Republicans get into Government in the USA shortly, I can see the USA becoming confrontational with Chavez & Fernandez.
7 LEPRecon (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 09:27 am Report abuse
It's be worried if I were Paraguay or Uruguay. Chavez and the 'Dear Leader' in Argentina are desperate for conquests.

They'll start by liberating Paraguay from it's constitutional right to impeach their own President and reinstall Lugo as a puppet leader, then they'll turn their greedy eyes to Liberating Uruguay from the burden of democracy.

Yup, this Alliance is about unifying South America under a Venezulan/Argentine dictatorship.
8 JimHandley (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 10:56 am Report abuse
Hello Everyone,

Keep calm, Mr Mannering!

This agreement will enjoy the customary, Lat. Am., ephemeral longevity of a fruit fly. That’s to say, it’ll last just until the inevitable, first falling-out between its pseudo-Fascist progenitors!

Remember that when these jerks talk of “Maintaining peace in the region”, they REALLY mean the perpetuation of their own dictatorial grip over their respective countries

How on earth do so many otherwise SENTIENT South Americans fall for such empty, vainglorious, rhetorical rubbish? Perhaps they don’t but are simply too scared to voice their true opinions. Or maybe –like yours truly– they’re just completely fed up by years’ of listening to so many shameless, incorrigible megalomaniacs utter so much vacuous bullshit!

Jim, in Madrid.
9 TreborDoyle (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 11:17 am Report abuse
And so the Argentine Circus continues ... The next act is unison with their friends in Venezuala entitled 'two clowns giving each other make-up lessons'
10 cLOHO (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 11:18 am Report abuse
Argentina is like a weak child of no standing in the playground , begging the bigger boys to join their gang. Like the little bit about defence of all the resources in the area, nobody will fight your battles for you..grow a pair
11 PirateLove (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 11:49 am Report abuse
So argtards wish to militarize the south americas, any further provocation towards the Falkland people and the Argentine government should be reminded that the UK has the capability to strike at their mainland no matter who they bring to the party.

Play with fire and you WILL get burned!
12 KretinaK (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 12:49 pm Report abuse
Argentina used to have the best beef in the world, but since Nestor and Cristina Kirchner have been in power, the beef industry has been completely destroyed. Nobody should eat the poor quality and polluted beef, it's not fit for human consumption. Argentine beef loaded with hormones, drugs and chemicals that have been outlawed in the USA and Europe and they have been known to ship rotten beef for export after it's been washed with bleach and ammonia, injected with formaldehyde and red food coloring.
Lemons from Argentina are sprayed with toxic and dangerous chemicals that cause cancer and nerve damage and injected with artificial yellow coloring because the soil in Argentina is so depleted of minerals in that the lemons grow white on the trees and have no flavor.
Industrial products such as tools, automobiles, machinery and appliances from Argentina are the worst and poorest quality in the world. Even the chinese won't buy them. There is no industrial standard, they use the lowest quality raw materials and no testing is done before they are shipped. This has caused people to be injured by unsafe products, many people have been electrocuted by Argentine washing machines and hot water heaters that leave the factory with short circuits.
All countries should completely avoid ALL Argentine products permanently.
Article about Argentina signing a military cooperation agreement with Venezuela, these people are looking to start a war.
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105945/argentina-venezuela-to-sign-military-agreement
Did you hear about the new “militant” movement that Kirchners are starting that will make “La Cámpora” look like a group of kids in nursery school? It's called “Vatayon”, it's a Kirchner backed group that goes into the prisons of Argentina to recruit supporters for their political movement.
www.facebook.com/#!/vatayonmilitante
13 yankeeboy (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 12:56 pm Report abuse
The CIA cancer doesn't seem to be working fast enough.
14 Conqueror (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 12:57 pm Report abuse
We should not forget that, in 2006, Venezuela bought 24 Su-30MK multirole combat aircraft from Russia. To go with its 20 F-16s. These could no doubt fly alongside argieland's 63 Daggers, Fightinghawks and Mirages. By comparison, the RAF only has 217 Tornados and Typhoons. 93 Typhoons yet to be delivered. At sea, the Venezuelan and argie navies can field their combined 10 frigates, 13 corvettes and 5 submarines (diesel-electric) against the Royal Navy's 6 destroyers, 13 frigates and 8 submarines (nuclear-powered). Worrying. THE Navy might only be able to sink half an enemy ship each! Might have to send a couple of carriers as well. The ones euphemistically called “helicopter carriers”. Only got 4 of those. Does anybody know whether it's against “the rules” to sink something so that it lands on top of something you sank 30 years ago?
15 aussie sunshine (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
We are in the making of a new nation called South America!!
something to look out for in the future.
16 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
@15 aussie sunshine (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 01:54 pm

Oh yes? At this rate you will have two regions, Argentina and Venezuela who do not share a land border. This is because most of the rest seem very reluctant to join your new country and even then a) neither Argentina nor Venezuela will be leading it because afterall, who would give an alcoholic the keys to the drinks cabinet? And in any case b) You, quite wisely I feel, still won't live there.

I think it won't hurt to remind the Malvinistas again. You are going to have to fight your own battles.
17 aussie sunshine (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 02:16 pm Report abuse
15 There are four nations Venezuela/Brazil/uruguay/Argentina.
18 Musky (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
Birds of a Feather Flock Together -Argentina and Venezuela are equally bonkers. Mind you, I do believe that Venezuela has won Miss World the most times and so in my book I can forgive them most sins!
19 mclayoscar (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 03:32 pm Report abuse
Brazil & Uruquay will not get involved with Fernandez & Chavez, they have too much sense, they know they would be on a loser their relations with USA EU UK are good, why mess up something good for a pair of head cases. The chances are a Republican President will be elected shortly, why piss off America. In saying that if their is going to be military action against the Falklands Argentina wil be on its own, as Chavez in the end will not go along with Argentina, it's just hot air saying he will fight Britain. Argentina will lose if they undertake military action.
20 ljordao (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 03:33 pm Report abuse
@15:

Go to hell. I'm Brazilian, and I can assure you that unification at this level will never happen. You obviously don't know anything about my country. Stop spouting nonsense.
21 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
We need to cooperate with Venezuela and build up a nuclear deffence program to rid Islas Malvinas Argentina from illegal british occupation, we have to clear our oceans from rogue nuclear armed forces threatening peace in south america, we should not allow for any brit to hold any claims or take any freedom in our land let's unite and execute all this pirates.
22 Conor (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
@21
Oh.....No! Im shaking in my boots Mr Hunter! Argentine actually using its military on someone else rather then its own citizens ja ja ja ja ja ja!
23 Pete Bog (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
No matter what quality of Chav's aircraft are (F16s and SU30s) that he sends to help Argentina, they will have to be based in Southern Argentina to threaten the Falklands. It doesn't even matter if Argentina has the most up to date Chinese fighters, as none are any good if the runways in Southern Argentina are destroyed by retaliatory strikes.

And if there is a combined naval operation against the Falklands by South American countries, to avoid their ships being zapped in port, they are unlikely to be based in Southern Argentina. Therefore even though the South American countries would be closer than the UK they would be operating at long range from their own countries (ie any north of BA would be over 1000 miles from the FI).

Wasps to a jampot from which they will not escape, and UK will not need to deploy an overly large fleet of ships or aircraft. Whilst UK could retaliate directly against 'citizen Chav' it would be easier to sit around the FI wait, and zap as the targets appear at the end of their long journey.
24 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 05:20 pm
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25 Chatcat (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
@ 24 - I think you may have just said a lot about your own values and racist ideas Mr Hunter....don't try and drag us down to your level.
26 Conqueror (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 05:54 pm Report abuse
@24 Haven't noticed us making any threats for the time being. Besides WE don't make threats. They'll be PROMISES. Now what sort of sh*te talks about beheading people. But by all means fly to South America P*rat. Might as well have all the sh*te in one place. What's your “wrath” like? Is that wiggling your tushy? Who's going to shoot this sc*m? CFK says she doesn't like or agree with violence. What will she do when an intending murderer arrives?

In the meantime, we still have those big cylindrical things that can be launched from a range of 7,000 miles. Those little things at the top that go bang? Only between 7 and 32 times the one that went bang over Hiroshima.

So. P*rat, when you set off for south america, you need to hope that none of your pals have upset us too much. Otherwise, there may be nowhere for you to land. Jajajajajajajajajaja !!!!!!!
27 Alexei (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
I do believe Chavez is actually retarded enough to co-operate in aggressive military action with KFC. For his sake I hope he has advisors with IQs above double figures who might understand the consequences of such action, and will talk to him. Otherwise it's goodnight Sr. Chavez, it was interesting knowing you :D

Didn't Chavez recently send a message of support to another of his friends, Gaddafi. The fat Venezuelan clown has a history of backing losers.
28 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
#25 executing pirates is the best way to rid Argentina of pest in any case I am not pulling anybody down but bringing them up to face justice.
#26 you will get what you deserve nothing more nothing less, just remember south America will be the burial for all brits, never forget what a single che Guevara did in North America and what many of them could do to level the ground, we don't need the nukes we can defend ourselves with our bear hands. Something no cowardly brit can do.
29 Max (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
& 28
You are very soft and not equivalent to English.

UK has neither extensive nuke weapons nor its extensive technology.
even if they have entirely can't be used in the present world conditions.
even if you are US...even if China...even if Russia or others you can't use them let alone ordinary member of NATO/UK.
30 Alexei (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 07:13 pm Report abuse
@28 Some of your jihadist mentors in the middle-east have already beheaded British and other western hostages, it got them nothing but loathing and contempt. They even released a few videos, presumably for ghoulish bitter anglophobes like you who admire their tactics:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3728594.stm

As for “we can defend ourselves with our bear hands. Something no cowardly brit can do”, It didn't quite go down like that on the Falkland Islands did it? Your 'bravos' ran out of white flags, and would have used their underwear, but they were no longer white.
31 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 07:33 pm Report abuse
#29 not as soft or goofy as you. Do to others as they done to you that is the law.
#30 man to man brits can't fight my mother can take a few brits single handed. That is if they don't nuke her first lol you can't expect much from men who wear skirts.
32 Max (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
The UK lives under the threat more than Argentina.
33 Conor (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 07:51 pm Report abuse
@31
You know we have heard this all before and despite it, Britain has prevailed in the vast majority of the conflicts she has fought in, The falklands war was no exception everyone form, UK Mp's to the USSR and the US said that Britain would lose and yet we won. Britain has been involved in more conflicts then anyone else in history and yet for some reason we are still here and our interests still satand so obviously we are doing something right when we fight, Argentine on the other hand has been involved in next to nothing in terms of conflict, and when it came to the Falklands you couldn't capture and hold a set of islands right on your door step from an enemy 8000 miles from home while you had more troops, aircraft and logistics, so who's the loser here? Many have tried to take on Britain and most have failed, many have tried to invade Britain and all have failed.

In fact the Argentine military was so pathetic it spent more time killing its own people then the enemy!

Oh and as for Skirts? The Kilt was worn by soldiers during WW1 that were so feared that the Germans called them the ladies from hell. I mean what would you rather have a man wearing a kilt or a conscript who's only real military experience was throwing a nun out of a helicopter at 5,000 feet?
34 briton (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
Apparently the deal is to supply thus,

5, bi planes
4, rowing boats,
3 rifles
2, pounds,
1, and a parsnip in a pear tree.

???????????
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35 Alexei (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
@31 Incidentally, it's “bare hands”, bears have paws :))
36 Conqueror (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
@28 “bear hands”? Chuckle, chuckle. Sorry. Lol!!
@29 Watch!
@31 Glad you see it that way. Glad to behead you. Eventually. We should start from the lower extremities. First we'll take both feet. Then both legs. Then both hands. Then both arms. Then the “tackle”. Although this can be hard to find on a latino. And finally, the head. Making sure that said latino is face up so it can see the blade come down. I want to do it!! Make sure you hang on to your beliefs. The only Brits that “wear skirts” are Scots. But they're not the only ones that can shove a bayonet down your throat and another one up your a*se at the same time. I do think it's a mistake to send Gurkhas down south. Lopping latino heads off with one sweep seems so.......quick. Shall I pass your comments on to a few Scots squaddies, P*rat? I'm sure they'd like to meet you. If you dared get within 5,000 miles. Scots like people like you. They write your comments on a piece of paper and balance the paper on the end of a bayonet. Then they ram it home. So that you can “eat your words”. Don't know what they call it if they ram the bayonet up your a*se. Hope you're looking forward to it. I am!

@35 Why did you have to tell it?
37 briton (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
Pirat-Hunter
Boy how brave you are,

What with you insulting the living
Foggetti , insulting to dead,
And BK, supporting you both,

You should all be proud to where the medal of cowardice,
It suits you.

It’s just a shame then, that you embarrass
your self and your country, by not telling it to their faces .

Still,,,
Being British we are used to cowards and jealous people, with envy.
Shouting childish insults at us.

.
38 redpoll (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
Its a long way from most posters but as an inhabitant of a small country with very little military capacity The presence of Venezuelan troops in Uruguay without the sanction of our Parliament is disturbing to say the least
39 briton (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
So pirate, you thought to interfere, with the spelling,
[Take that ]

[where] to [wear ]
insulting to dead = Insulting the dead .
[ lololol]

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40 geo (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
brit /

Why do i feel me sleepy when i read your comments !
41 briton (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
ChrisR

Why is Venezuelan troops in Uruguay

??

GEO
Why is everything a conspiracy theory?

To you.

What do you want?
National secrets,
Latest novel,
Or just ignore conspiracy geo.

.
42 geo (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:45 pm Report abuse
brit/

ask it to CIA/MI6-MI5/KGB.... not me.

frankly ,i must say that i think 1982/FI war was a conspiracy.
but
i don't think the word “ pirate” derivated from word “ conspiracy ”.
43 briton (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 08:49 pm Report abuse
well to be fair geo,,,
as he is one of your lot,
you would have to ask Pirat-Hunter ,

the 1982 war, was a conspiracy between the argentine goverment, and the argentin military, a possability, was it not .
44 David Cameron (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
Let me be very clear. If any country down there threatens my country and attacks any islands either down in the South Atlantic or here back home then I can promise all of you that I will wipe them of the map. Its not a threat its a promise. I promise that I will not stop like Mrs Thatcher did and let anyone of the hook it will be done that I can promise all of you. So take heed Argentina and Venezuela do you feel lucky, well do you punks?
45 Conor (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
@44
Please stop the whole David Cameron thing its not remotely funny or helpful.
46 Beef (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
RKH signs a farm-in agreement for oil production in the Falkland Islands while Argentina signs an agreement for bigger elastic bands for their catapults.

Nice one Argies.
47 Sergio Vega (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 11:14 pm Report abuse
Who hug a god tree get a good shadow......!!! don´t you think...???

It confirm that the UNASUR is a bluff from Venezuela to get involved in the other SA countries internal activities....Mercosur infected already with the monkey's insertion.....

Agentina continue on its fall down......poor Argentines regular citiziens....will it be what they deserve.....??? Thought no......as well the Venezuelans neither do.....
48 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 14th, 2012 - 11:35 pm
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49 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:11 am Report abuse
@48
Ah did I hit a nerve? I would not call the people of the UK who were kilts homosexuals they don't tend to take it very well. Any Hasn't Argentine already legalised same sex marriage? And besides whats wrong with Homosexuals? Other then your twisted homophobic bullshit?

“Chaves hand shake has every britard sweating bullets. You can all answer back when you see us Argentine make comments in british news. Good luck with that Argentine have no interest in a the british rock floating in the ocean.” Your English is so poor that I cant make out what exactly you are saying or trying to explain.

“We only care for Malvinas Argentina” no such place there is however the British Falklands, if thats what you meant.

“execute or behead every british pirate intruding in latinamerica.” Isn't execution and beheading exactly the same thing? Your not very bright are you Mr Hunter? Never mind if Britain is going up against this calibre of intelligence then the Falklands will be perfectly safe and happy.
50 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:22 am
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51 toxictaxitrader (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:29 am Report abuse
Excuse my ignorance but what are the“Bolivarian Armed Forces of Venezuela”? is there another country involved(Bolivia) they didnt teach us much about S.A.when I was at school in Ireland(except your all good Catholics of course
52 brit abroad (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:49 am Report abuse
@ Briton

This is all Scary stuff putting all those muskets and rusty sabres together:

Watching them prepare for a war would like an episode of Scrap Heap Challenge
53 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 01:17 am Report abuse
@50
“ Fakland island doesn exist I checked no such a country only a british pirate firm with illegal aliens illegaly occupying Malvinas Argentina. The place you think doesn't exist lol”------ I am afraid they do exist as they have the right of self determination muck like you Argentines did when you began to take over the lands of the native south American's...Lol!

“I guess you are here because I said the truth about homosexuals and men wearing women garment. I am sorry I don't like perverts and child molesters as much as you britards do. No pervert can come up to me and tell me anything this is why brits should talk among themselves here or get what they deserve, witch we all agree is beheading or execution.”------Why such homopobia and racism? Im not gay, so what have I said that makes me so? A kilt? Im half Scottish but I don't wear one, neither do the majority of Scots and the rest of the British. I mean if one old tradition rubs off on the whole of Britain, then I guess it applies to Argentine as well doesn't it? So all Argentines are murderous dictators who killed 30,000 of their own people? I take it you were involved in the death flights?

However as you have failed to provide any true evidence for all of your wild accusations I cant take you seriously you pathetic racist, homophobic nob.
54 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 01:22 am
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55 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 01:25 am Report abuse
@54
You're not very bright are you?
56 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 01:38 am
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57 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 04:29 am Report abuse
@56
“natives what natives?? Lol not here nor even in Canada sorry homo.” Yeah the natives that previously owned the lands that all N/S american countries are built upon. As for the rest of your garbage well you cant provide any evidence and you have failed to convince anyone of your pathetic homophobic and racist ways you miserable deluded prick.
58 TreborDoyle (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:04 am Report abuse
@Pirat-Hunter

Your attitude demonstrates all that is wrong with your backward uncivilised Argentina and is a clear sign to us that we will ALWAYS defeat you!
59 Boovis (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:13 am Report abuse
Who are these countries defending themselves against?
60 cLOHO (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:59 am Report abuse
Man hunter pirat....big talk, usually countries do there fighting on the battlefield where the Rgs ran away!!! Big talk but nothing to back it up with...which sums up Argentina. We don't scare easy, we have beaten most countries in the world before (and had a kicking a few times) but as the Rgs found out we are difficult to beat on the battlefield. I await a troll to surf the web and list battles we have lost, but hey the important one was the Falklands and boy we whopped your ass
61 googer62 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:15 am Report abuse
Heyup Mr Pirate Hunter, me old chum. @31: man to man brits can't fight my mother can take a few brits single handed.
Good on the old girl for doing her bit towards better relations with the Anglos. I presume she is a bit more cultured now :-)
62 Clyde15 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 11:31 am Report abuse
#31
I note your comments about effeminate Scottish soldiers wearing kilts.
The Roman legions, the Greek Hoplites and the Zulu warriors wore types of skirts. Were they effeminate girlies ?
I could go on for pages trying to explain how this came about but you would need a brain - which in your case is sadly lacking- to comprehend this. As to the fighting qualities of the Scottish regiments, do some research. The results may not fit in with your concepts.
If I am correct, the last time your troops met them was on Mt. Tumbledown. What was the result? Oh yes, your best soldiers, in a heavily defended position got pushed off at bayonet point and ran back to Stanley to save their souls. Probably, by now, Argentine history will show that they left because they were chivalrous and did not want to fight homosexuals in skirts. That's how you write you history, is it not ?
As an afterthought, the Ghurkas modeled their regimental traditions on those of the Highland Regiments as they recognised a warrior tradition they respected. I would not dare to insult Johnny Ghurka if I were you.
The Scots let your men go from Tumbledown. The Ghurkas would have sent their heads back in sacks.
Your mother must resemble Godzilla to be so formidable - this probably explains your attitude to life. As you are so homophobic it sounds as if you are possibly a latent homosexual. Having such a formidable mother may explain it. Don't be frightened - come out -it is not a hanging offence. I thought that CFK was allowing gay marriages ?

As a national stereotype, I looked up the Argentine Gaucho.
The pictures I saw were of men dressed in various costumes resembling women's clothes - some even looked like women's long knickers !
These were “men” who stayed out in the back country in groups, with no women. Sounds a bit like a bunch of gay boys to me.
Using your logic, they must be bunch of Homos. Why don't you go and tell a gaucho that he is an effeminate gay for the way he dresses !
63 Xect (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 11:51 am Report abuse
Don't worry about pirat, he's just another retard running his mouth because he's too cowardly to join the Argentine armed forces and bring it to those nasty British...

The difference between the British and Argentinian's is when you upset the British you'll find them on your doorstep bringing the fight to you, when you upset Argentinians they run around for many years bitching and crying to anyone who will listen.

All talk, no action, bunch of cowards.
64 ElaineB (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:02 pm Report abuse
LOL, a bit harsh. The first gauchos in Argentina were Russian Jews driven out of Russia and if you look at their clothing you can see how is resembles some traditional Jewish clothing.

It is interesting that the Gaucho has become a symbol of tourism for Argentina when for so many years they were outcast. They didn't want to fight in the Patagonian wars for President Roca and were even less enthusiasstic about the genocide of the indigenous people. This labelled them as cowards and unpatriotic when really they just wanted to be alone with their horse, as it were.

When Argentina started to develop tourism the image of the gaucho was rehabilitated and used to define part of the Argentine history.
65 Conqueror (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:53 pm Report abuse
@50 If you don't like perverts, you should trot off and cut your throat. I've never encountered a more gross pervert than you. I've scraped better than you off my boots after tramping through a field of cattle. Presumably, you have no wish to reach your 6th birthday? Sorry......crap day, when you dropped out of something's a*se! Bit like Chavez, aren't you? All mouth and no trousers. Get back down in the filth where you belong.
66 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:21 pm Report abuse
#60 brits never fight alone, they like to do the gang fight and they never fight man to man, Argentina can win too just give it time as soon as Russia or pakistan trade us some nukes we Can talk man to man Untill then you can talk all you want its all matter of time. You can bid anything that Romans thought as you did now but that will change because no empire lasted for ever and the bigger they get the harder they fall. I would not brag about the gang thing the situation will soon change, all we need to do in Argentina is support our government to build a nuclear defense program, one way or another we will show the brits the way back home to UK.

Russia ready for showdown with UK over arms being transported to Syria in cargo ship
By WILL STEWART
PUBLISHED: 22:42 GMT, 14 July 2012 | UPDATED: 22:42 GMT, 14 July 2012
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173718/Russia-ready-showdown-UK-arms-transported-Syria-cargo-ship.html#ixzz20epHvfXy

Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 5:18 AM Pakistan betrays U.S. for China … duh!
www.theipinionsjournal.com/2011/08/pakistan-betrays-u-s-for-china-…-duh/
67 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:33 pm Report abuse
@66
HA ha ha ha ha as I explained earlier you have no way to beat us in a fight, you can't even shove a few nuns out of a helicopter without a government being toppled. Nuclear defence programme? Ha you don't have the money or the time or the expertise and most importantly your leaders don't have the will, stop with the wet dreams Mr Racist homophobic Hunter before you get upset when you wake up in reality. And even if you get nukes, your not going to use them on us because we will just use ours on you, and we have more and their larger.

Give up your claim to the islands, and worry more about your domestic affairs, as I recall a certain train crash killed a large number of people, were is the money that was promised for infrastructure improvement? Never mind nuclear programmes.
68 RobWilliams (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
@66

I seem to recall that in 1982, Argentina severely outnumbered the British, so that (not to mention the countless other examples) seems to debunk your whole “Britain can only gang fight” or something along the lines of the British need superior numbers.

As to Argentina having a nuclear weapons program, HA!

Then using the Roman analogy to say that Britain will now 'fall'? Hate to break it to you, but Britain no longer has it's empire, the areas (rightly so) are now independent and are experiencing self determination.
69 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
66 Pirat
Idiot!
Maybe you could ask Israel to help with your nuclear programme, I'm sure they could send Mossad in with them and nobody would notice! Or maybe, they're already there!
70 ElaineB (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
You have to wonder how old/distorted/non-existent history books are in Argentina. The British empire ceased to exist more than six decades ago. I guess as their government model of fascism is from the 1940's they are trapped in a time-warp.

It reminds me of the time a well-travelled Argentine friend said about her countrymen, “The problem is they don't know how backward they are”.
71 Steveu (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:53 pm Report abuse
@66 PiratHunter

I will lower myself to respond to your idiotic and jingoistic post..

“Russia ready for showdown with UK over arms being transported to Syria in cargo ship ”

That's why the ship has turned back after its second attempt to get arms through to the vile Assad regime - which I guess you have no problems with (www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9401393/Russian-ship-with-helicopters-bound-for-Syria-turns-back.html)

Keep up!
72 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
#67 #68 #69 #70 #71 as I stated before I don't like perverts, homosexuals, childmolesters or to sum it all up brits. I also don't like people who never, never,NEVER fight alone..i think people who like to gang fight should be found alone and executed. Untill their race learn ethics and respect, we Argentine's can fix you anytime anywhere. The army is for homos, real men take up arms on their own and eventually face gods judgements alone. Perverts, child molesters and homosexuals enlist in the army out of fear of facing judgements alone..
73 Steveu (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
@72

Glad we cleared that up then! Are you taking your meds at the moment?
74 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
#73 I am not a brit, homo, child molesters or pervert I am sure if I was I would take pills as you do, thanks for asking but I am not one of you.
75 Clyde15 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 04:48 pm Report abuse
#66
I would not get excited about Pakistan -India will sort them out.
We can sit quite happily on the sidelines,
Do you seriously think that Russia or Pakistan would supply you with nuclear weapons. You must be off your tiny mind. These are only for big boys to play with - not children.

Did you read my post at #62 ?
Scottish soldiers attack Argentinian marines on Tumbledown using bayonets. What is more man-to- man than this ? Your lot waited in fortified positions covering the area with heavy machine gun fire but were still forced off.
Again your lot attacked Stanley which was defended by a small company of Royal Marines against a much larger force equipped with heavy weapons. Who is it that fights in gangs? I am totally at a loss as who fought with us in the Falklands. Please explain. Also, why is your President desperate to get military support from Venezuela and other S.A. countries.
If the army is for homos then it follows that your countrymen in your armed forces are perverts, homos and child molesters. Have you relayed your feelings to your President or any of your national newspapers ?
Really, engage what little brain you have before posting any more rubbish. Try to think of something new to say. You are sounding like a record stuck in a groove.
#64
I was just showing PH what a prat he is by using the same warped reasoning he applies. If he believes in what he said about men in skirts. then he must believe the same about Gauchos. It's his opinion, not mine.
76 RobWilliams (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 04:54 pm Report abuse
@74

It's actually quite amusing how much you hate people from Britain, what is it, an inferiority complex? I assume so, by your continuous dick measuring between Argentinas and Britains armed forces which is really rather petty don't you think? Especially when Argentina has no leg to stand on in said comparison.

Oh, you're a religious person (i assume anyway, when you talk about avoiding judgement and so on) , I see. All the random pointless conjecture makes sense now.
77 cornishair (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 05:04 pm Report abuse
Pirat-hunter's on one again! haha silly little nazis!.

Im starting to think KFC has forgot about the falkland island?. No statements from her for a bit.
78 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 05:15 pm Report abuse
#75 #76 #77 as I stated before I don't like perverts, homosexuals or child molesters to sum it all up I don't Like brits period. I think real men don't join the army. Real men takes up weapons and fights alone to meet his maker for judgements, homosexuals, pervert child molesters and brits join the army out of fear for having to face judgements dqy alone. I think summary execution is a great way to deal with this lot.
79 RobWilliams (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
@78

Yes, as you've said plenty of times, you don't like those people, but I was enquiring WHYyou hate homosexuals (if you understand the meaning of the word 'why' that is).

Hardly anyone in Britain fears judgement day (only the ridiculously obtuse religious people) as there's quite a movement of a thing called “athiesm” in the UK, so yeah, that means they don't care about judgement day nor do they believe in any kind of maker, so most of your rubbish is pretty much redundant.

Your 18th century beliefs make me pity you, and whilst you're getting so worked up about us Brits, a little Union Jack flies in the corner of the Falklands flag ;)
80 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
#79 read #78 I get worked up because the homos come to Argentine headlines to expose their ignorance. You aren't the exception. Anyways we support a nuclear defense program for latin America to avert illegal occupation and exploitation of our natural resources. We also support the expropiation of british property and british interests in latin America. And the only jack I know is the jack ass from UK.
81 briton (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
52 brit abroad
Ha, very true .
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

He is fighting a home battle with himself,

Inside every pirate
Is a hunter waiting to get out?

But does he become the hunter, or the hunted.
Perhaps we should re-brand him,
The hunted pirate .lol.

.
82 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 06:45 pm Report abuse
@80
Really Mr Hunter are you sure? I don't usually like insulting people however your jibes at race and homosexuality have pissed me off, so I will just say that there is nothing you can do to stop us. You don't have the experience or the no how of how to beat us, I mean you couldn't even kick us off a set of islands right on your doorstop in 1982. You had more planes that were faster and more manoeuvrable but you only shot down a few while we crippled your entire air force. You had the entire Argentine army to deploy to the islands while we could only deploy a much smaller force with borrowed civilian transports, our supply lines were 8000 miles long while yours were only a few hundred miles. And yet you still lost, badly to us.

“Anyways we support a nuclear defense program for latin America to avert illegal occupation and exploitation of our natural resources” You don't have the public support, money, expertise or will to start such a programme, shut up and sit down you pathetic indoctrinated fool. And the resources belong to the Falkland islanders who have lived on those islands since before Argentine was created.

“expropriation of british property and british interests in latin America. And the only jack I know is the jack ass from UK.” Who's this “we”? Major British business is in Argentine, if you attack it its the common man who loses services, jobs and wealth not us you stupid fool. Jack ass? I think you will find that you're the jack ass, nothing more then a homophobic fool who's had all this Malvinas crap drummed in at school- AKA Brainwashing. You are never going to get the islands, you have no military strength, no political strength, no true die hard support, you have no legal claims and no basis of argument. All of your governments efforts have failed and the Falklands are still British and Argentine is still a mess. Give up your pathetic claim, get on with your life.
83 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:13 pm Report abuse
Pirat 78
Did you get molested as a child? Perhaps your father, a priest, a Rabbi or just someone you trusted, maybe a brother or sister? You need to get help, it wasn't your fault!
84 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
#81 #82 why are you britards wane be argys soo mad at Argentina, did they call you homosexuals lol sorry but we Argentines don't like perverts, child molester, homosexuals or to sum them all up british, I was hoping there was brits against child molesters and perverts but seems like the brits support child molesting and for this reason I don't like brits. All homos join the army a real man takes up a weapon and executes the enemy one body at a time. Revenge is sweeter then conquest.
85 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
Pirat84
There, there, confused poor little boy. Did it hurt when he put it in? Did it make you feel dirty, as though you would never be clean again? Did he tell you not to tell anyone or he would kill you? Its going to be ok, it wasn't your fault, you won't have to do those awful things again if you don't want to. See Pirat, you need to see a psychiatrist and he can help you through it, it is nothing to be ashamed about.
86 Conor (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
@84
So again you prove how poor your intelligence is and you start going on about Gays and perverts that aren't related to the topic at hand, I have no intention to reply to you and I hope others will simply ignore you in the future, you inbred pathetic dick you can drop dead and die for all I care.
87 Joe Bloggs (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
From a major tourism advice publication.

Buenos Aires is the most openly gay-friendly city in Latin America. There are gay hotels, gay football championships, gay tango, a Gay Pride march (November) and an active gay nightlife and social scene. Elsewhere in Argentina, although there is a more conservative attitude towards homosexuality, gay travellers are warmly welcomed.
88 Clyde15 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:34 pm Report abuse
#84
Thank you for explaining your position so lucidly. We can now expect you to single handed execute all members of the Argentinian Army, Navy and Air Force as , by your definition, they must be Homos, perverts and child molesters - “all homos join the army ” This will save the British forces a lot of grief. We can now send our forces back home.
I presume you will turn on the Venezuelans next as they are your buddies.
I will look at the Buenos Aires Herald for news of your mighty deeds !
89 Joe Bloggs (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
88 Clyde15

LOL!
90 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:42 pm Report abuse
Gay travelers or perverts?? we call them child molesters or brits, you can't give them aids or execute them if they don't come to you. Children can lure them out of the spot light to get them to face justice mind you with a few bucks now days you can bring justice to anyone you wish in the streets of Bs. As. Come visit us lol.
91 rylang23 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
I found only one or two comments worth reading under this article. Do any of you have a compassionate or thoughtful bone in your bodies? Most comments are rude, disgusting, and show the ignorance of the authors. Please, people, grow up and become civil participants in a dialogue that is worth having, or just shut up!
92 Clyde15 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
#90
Would you care to answer my point or is it too embarrassing for you.
Please be more rigorous in your replies as you are inclined to lose the place and start ranting.
Also, would any of the more sensible Arg. posters like to comment on PH's thoughts. Your silence is deafening
93 RobWilliams (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 07:58 pm Report abuse
@91

Do you ever get lonely up there on your high horse?
94 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
91 Rylang
Do you think anyone takes this forum seriously? I hope not. I mean its a joke isn't it? We might as well be debating Alaska belonging to Canada, (it is on our plataforma continental afterall) or Texas to the Mexicans. It has already been dealt with and the deal is done, it was cemented in 1982. Instead of moving along some still continue to make noise like children so don't be so surprised when antics get childish. People are always going to jump in and try to kindle small fires and then add more wood, and it works!!
95 Lou Spoo (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
@91

That's right. Because telling people you don't agree with to shut up is the height of civility isn't it? Well done for adding one more ignorant comment to a board that's not worth reading.
96 JimHandley (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
For: 91 rylang23 (#)
Re:
“I found only one or two comments worth reading under this article. Do any of you have a compassionate or thoughtful bone in your bodies? Most comments are rude, disgusting, and show the ignorance of the authors. Please, people, grow up and become civil participants in a dialogue that is worth having, or just shut up!”

I do agree!!! And I feel that ‘delusional’, demented’ contributors to whom you refer are almost certainly the hapless victims of certifiable, psychiatric disorder. Otherwise, how could be so bloody daft as to not to realize that their ‘demented’ declarations simply serve to show them in their true colours –OBJECTS OF PUBLIC RIDICULE!!!

Best wishes.

Jim, in Madrid.

For: 91 rylang23 (#)
Re:
“I found only one or two comments worth reading under this article. Do any of you have a compassionate or thoughtful bone in your bodies? Most comments are rude, disgusting, and show the ignorance of the authors. Please, people, grow up and become civil participants in a dialogue that is worth having, or just shut up!”

I do agree!!! And I feel that ‘delusional’, demented’ contributors to whom you refer are almost certainly the hapless victims of certifiable, psychiatric disorder. Otherwise, how could be so bloody daft as to not to realize that their ‘demented’ declarations simply serve to show them in their true colours –OBJECTS OF PUBLIC RIDICULE!!!

Best wishes.

Jim, in Madrid.
97 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
It seems that a very high percentage of violently anti-homosexual males were in fact molested during their childhood, a very unfortunate statistic.
98 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:44 pm
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99 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 08:59 pm Report abuse
98 Pirat
I think I hit the nail on the head! If I was a psychiatrist I could have charged you at least 300$ (US please) for that diagnosis. I hope the Argentine authorities did take care of the person who molested you and you can visit your father in Olavarria on weekends.
100 JohnN (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
Nice to see that Wiki on South America gives equal weight to big-population countries and small ones. Falklands, with capital Stanley, and South Georgia with capital Grytviken are in same table as Argentina, Brazil and all the rest in the grand SA pop total of 385 millions: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America#Ethnic_demographics
101 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
98 Pirat
Again with the “loosers”, I thought I provided the correct information in a different thread, you really need to read all the posts!
102 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:05 pm
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103 briton (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:07 pm Report abuse
Interesting that the 8th largest island in the world,

[the mighty and powerfull argentina,]
Went up against the 95thist smallest island, and lost.

yep.
you argies must be really proud, ...morons.;
104 Clyde15 (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
I give up on PH. If I were a psychiatrist , I would have a field day with this one. He is definitely suffering from some mental problem including a persecution complex and delusions of grandeur.
To say I am confused by his ramblings is an understatement.
For example, in my post at #88, he now comes back to tell me that I should execute all Argentinian Armed Forces personnel as he will take it up against “brutish citizens” accordingly all in time -??????????????????
Also, who is talking of invading S.A. apart from you ?
Is there an Arg. poster out there with half a brain that can explain this mentally deranged persons postings ?
105 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:13 pm Report abuse
102 Pirat
Maybe you can start here:
www.tiempodevictoria.com.ar/estudios/colaboraciones/85
106 briton (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:15 pm Report abuse
102 Pirat-Hunter (
I still don't like perverts, child molesters, homosexuals

Considering it takes one, to know one,
And as you are the only one here that seems to know so much about these disgusting people,

Then the omen is all yours,
Is it not.,

You sham your people from afar.

A true Argentinean, [no]

A yellow turncoat,=almost certainly.
A perverted coward, definitely,

You insult,
But can’t take it.
An uneducated child, with inflated ambitions, of a hero,
And the ego of a twit .

thank god there are some decent argetines arround .
107 Zhivago (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:33 pm Report abuse
102 Pirat
Here's another one of interest to you, I'm just trying to help!
cha.org.ar/
108 TreborDoyle (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 11:06 pm Report abuse
What is all this constant reference to 'homosexuals'? Grow up!
109 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jul 15th, 2012 - 11:24 pm Report abuse
#103 a good nuclear deffense program can rather quickly solve that Just to be fair.
#104 thanks for the heads up not a psychiatrist, I guess your none professional advise is worthless. Do us all a favor and take your own none professional advice.
#105 I started long ago it took you long to find me at it. Yawns!
#106 you seem to know a lot about people by just analyzing their speech. Explain to me how is that you know what a coward is or that the brits, child molesters, homosexuals and perverts are disgusting people if you never met one. I didn't mean to say they are disgusting I think I opted to say I didn't like them, I figured people would fill the blanks on their own as you did, and can you explain to me what a yellow turncoat is?? You know more of this things then me funny boy, I must admit.
110 brit abroad (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 06:15 am Report abuse
@ 109 - Bring it on!!!! All your brave talk seems a little silly when youre hiding in an online forum, where you cant talk face to face!

Put my money on it that you wouldnt have the balls nor stomach to talk the way you are infront of anyone! but we will never know becuase of the coward you are!

Alternatively you could share your facebook details and then via there illustrate how macho and brave you really are! then next time i'm over in RGland we can meet and you can tell me all this drivel to my face!!

I dare you to do it coward!!!
111 cLOHO (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 07:01 am Report abuse
Wouldnt be suprised if Pirat Hunter is in the nonces wing og Argentinas finiest prison. He is a keyboard warrior, prob never kissed another living thing let alone a female, lives with his mother in a damp high rise flat.
Its no life Pirat hunter why not join your glorious armed forces the pride of serving in such a brave and effective fighting forces will swell your chest.
112 Alexei (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 08:29 am Report abuse
@66 “Pakistan, China, Russia, Iran will give us nukes, they'll help us”.

Absolutely pathetic.
113 Clyde15 (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 10:50 am Report abuse
#111
How can he join the Argentinian armed forces. He has already said that they are all homos, perverts and child molesters and as a macho man he would execute everyone in this category, face -to-face and one at a time.. Hmm, he is in a bit of a quandary with this one
114 cLOHO (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 11:39 am Report abuse
I think hes in that large Egyptian River about hes own feelings and batting sides.
115 ElaineB (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 11:50 am Report abuse
Have you noticed how one of these shit-stirring IDs turns up every weekend when the others are absent?
116 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
PH doesn't speak for Cristina, in fact he sounds more like Fred Phelps of godhatefags.com! Cristina very courageously legalised gay marriage, and Buenos Aires is seen as one of the world's most gay friendly cities
117 Conqueror (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 01:22 pm
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118 briton (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 05:47 pm Report abuse
P/H
Is caught between two very larg ladies,
One pushing , and one shoving,

If you was in his shoes, wouldn’t you say nasty things,
Or enjoy the moment ?????
.
119 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
#117 Sounds like you and PH have something in common, along with the American Reverend Phelps! Aren't universal ideals great!
120 redpoll (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
Mr moderator. I would remind you of the rules you have set for comments on this site. The sexual proclivities of the posters on this site , be they personal or national have nothing to do with the issue which is the theme of your article . Mr Speaker Order! order!please
121 TreborDoyle (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 09:18 pm Report abuse
Here here!

Mr moderator, please start moderating! The incitement of hatred on his posts in beyond a reasonable/respectable publications tolerance (and that of its readership!)
122 Steveu (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
@120 agreed

Some comments are very unpleasant and have nothing to do with the topic in hand. Homophobia has no place in the 21st century
123 redpoll (#) Jul 16th, 2012 - 10:58 pm Report abuse
@121 and @122 Thanks for your support. IMO this forum should be for debate on different points of view on the issue and not a slanging match
124 St.John (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 12:28 am Report abuse
Only adolescents fantazise about fighting heroic wars, which they only know from stupid and romantic movies.

Those of us who have actually been there, know that you don't get killed by a nice bullet in the forehead or heart.

What really happens is that you loose an arm, a leg or a foot or two, have your bloody guts spilled on the ground or get burned to charcoal, and if they can say anything at all, the young soldiers' last word is “mummy”.

We also know that Bertrand Russell was absolutely right when he wrote “War is not about who is right, but about who is left”.
125 Zhivago (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 12:41 am Report abuse
I wonder why Pirathunter's comments have been deleted and mine haven't? I think some of mine were equally offensive. Its not much fun baiting someone and then having their comments dismissed.
126 St.John (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 03:10 am Report abuse
Zhivago, don't bet on horses until next week.
All your luck for this week has been spent :-D
127 BLACK CAT (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 03:34 am Report abuse
91 rylang23 (#) And your point on the subject matter is? I wish you would have posted one on the subject matter, as reading your comment sadly (and hopefully incorrectly) thinking“ what a social Spastic”

I have nothing to fear from a military pact between two countries in the same region, old hat, the world has seen that done that and wears the t-shirt.
There 91 rylang23 (#) that's how you slag someone (or everyone as in your case) off and still remember to chip in on the subject matter, a little bit grown up, in a fashion as requested by you in your “I am the only true judge on the universal measure of grownupidness rant”- toddle pip old chap.
128 shb (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:24 am Report abuse
@pirat hunter.

You are a complete and utter prat.

I'd like to see what would happen to you if you walked up to the average scot and insulted him, if he was wearing a kilt, I suspect you would come off second best.

I'd also like to see you take on the average British squaddie in a hand to hand fight, I bet that would be even worse for you.

Only utter morons like you undersetimate their enemies.

You have'nt even read detailed accounts of the battles in 1982 have you? fighting was hand to hand on a number of occasiona as our troops kicked you out of posiytion after position. The battle of mount Tumbledown in particuklar saw the use of the bayonet in charges against your lot. Your lot came off much, much worse....................

So
A) You know nothing about what you are talking about
B) You are talking moronic drivel.
129 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 10:40 am Report abuse
#120-123 I agree, should have called for it myself really rather than making a pointed joke out of it, glad the comment was removed
130 JimHandley (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:03 am Report abuse
Hello Everyone,

Re: Pirat Hunter and his ilk.

Perhaps the best way to treat these ‘offensive, intellectual miscreants’ would be to COMPLETELY IGNORE their childish tantrums and dispossess them of the satisfaction of feeling that they’re making themselves the centre of everyone’s’ attention. If no one AT ALL were to EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE their idiotic missives, perhaps it would remove their megalomaniac’s sense self-importance. And, what could they find worse than that?!!!

As has been already so rightly said by several ‘SANE’ contributors, this Thread has become a puerile slanging match, rather than logical discussion of the matter in hand. And I for one, am bored bloody rigid with wasting my time in trawling through reams of such stupid, infantile invective (PENNED BY PEOPLE HIDING BEHIND PSEUDONYMS) simply in order to be able to read the very few cogent comments that have been posted!

Jim Handley, in Madrid.
131 BLACK CAT (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:38 am Report abuse
130 JimHandley (#)

Come on Jim if you don't mention the news article then your just as bad as the others without slagging anyone! same same. Your just ranting about your point of view. At least make a relevant statement about the article instead adding to the heap of irrelevant posts.

Right here goes - If anything a pact between the two countries will detract from the “Brazil is the real mussel power” image that is currently the elephant hiding under the bed issue with a united states of South America, Brazil may live to regret being slow out the blocks on this, there's a long game being played out here I suspect.
132 JimHandley (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 12:28 pm Report abuse
For: 131 BLACK CAT (#)

Re:
“Come on Jim if you don't mention the news article then YOUR (OUGHT TO BE YOU’RE, Jim) just as bad as the others without slagging anyone! same same.”

It seems you haven’t bothered to read the COMPLETE Thread or perhaps, you’ve become so mesmerized by the all the extraneous bullshit and offensive tittle-tattle, that you’ve missed my previous postings?

Do kindly at least TRY to ascertain the FACTS, before making further, gratuitous, unsubstantiated and erroneous allegations!

Also, it might be a good idea if you were to try to improve your manifestly incompetent command of the English language, before making such prescriptive pronouncements, in the future.

Re: “Brazil is the real mussel power” image that is currently the elephant hiding under the bed issue with a united states of South America...”

Please note: a MUSSEL is a form of cruststation (shellfish, to you) The physiological organ to which you presumably refer is a frigging MUSCLE!

Sorry to have to be so brutally frank. But I’m merely responding to your initial ill-mannered message to me.

Jim, in Madrid.
133 BLACK CAT (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
Dear Brutal Frank,

it's a Molluscs not a crustaian - Dear oh dear now get a life
134 JimHandley (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
For: 131 BLACK CAT (#)

Re:

“Dear Brutal Frank,

IT'S a Molluscs not a crustaian - Dear oh dear now get a life”(ought to be IS, Jim)

If you wish to be insufferably pedantic, note that according to the 2007 complete version of the Oxford English Dictionary, the word CRUSTAIAN does not exist.
However for your much-needed intellectual edification, these are some of the definitions that same dictionary gives for MUSSEL:

Forms: 1 muscelle, muscle, musle, mucxle, muxle, 4–6 muscule, 4–7 muskle, 4–9 muscle, 5 moscle, moscolle, moskyll, muschyl, muskele, muskyl, musselle, musshell, mustul, (pl. mwskollz), 5–6 muscul(l, muskyll(e, 5–7 muskel, 6 muskil, mussil(le, 7 (mistle), mussell, mustell, 8 muscel, 7– mussel.

[OE. muscle, etc., wk. fem., corresp. to MLG. mussel, MDu. mosscele (Du. mossel), OHG. muscula (MHG. muschele, mod.G. muschel), a. late L. muscula (also musla, whence F. moule), altered form of L. mūsculus dim. of mūs mouse.]

1.1 A bivalve mollusc belonging to either of the two families Mytilacea (Sea Mussels) and Unionacea (Fresh-water Mussels).
horse mussel: see horse n. pearl mussel: see pearl.
mollusc, mollusk Nat. Hist.

(ˈmɒləsk)

Also 9 mollusque.

[ad. F. mollusque, ad. mod.L. Mollusca.]

An animal belonging to the Mollusca.

1783 J. Barbut Genera Vermium p. xvii, Ascidia. The Bladder Shaped Mollusque. Holothuria. The Tentaculated Mollusque. Medusa. The Snake-lock Mollusque. 1808 Home in Phil. Trans. XCVI. 286 All the mollusques which creep on their bellies. 1839 Penny Cycl. XIV. 321/2 Terrestrial and fluviatile Mollusks. 1867 F. Francis Angling vii. (1880) 259 These molluscs took well to the lake. 1898 R. Munro Preh. Scot. 81 This mollusc is now extinct in the Clyde.

Mollusca, n. pl. Zool.

(məˈlʌskə)

[mod.L. mollusca (Jonston 1650), neut. pl. of L. molluscus (occurring in mollusca nux, a soft kind of nut), also ellipt. as n., and molluscum neut., used subst. as the name of a kind of fungus.]

SO IT SEEMS THAT ESSENTIAL MEANING OF THE TERM
135 Simon68 (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 03:48 pm Report abuse
Can't you stupid b**gers keep to the thread, who the hell cares about molluscs and crustations.

Pair of bloody trolls!!!!
136 JimHandley (#) Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
For: 135 Simon68 (#)
Re:Can't you stupid b**gers keep to the thread, who the hell cares about molluscs and crustations.
Pair of bloody trolls!!!!”

Thank you for your few kind words with which, you’ve expressed EXACTLY my own feelings. For I too am tired of reading rubbish which is not only insulting and totally extraneous to our true purpose but also penned by semiliterate, uninformed clowns!

I’m so happy that AT LAST, the penny is beginning to drop. Perhaps those whose who START these silly exchanges will now kindly desist. Then, there’ll be no need for ANYONE to reply to their nonsense! However, until the dawn of that happy morn, I do not intend to let any jumped-up ‘little Hitler’ such as you, prescribe what I may and may not write!

By the way, the truncated final part of my previous message ought to read:

SO IT SEEMS THAT ESSENTIAL MEANING OF THE TERM MUSSEL
IS MOUSE-LIKE –HARDLY AN APT SYNONYM FOR ELEPHANTINE!

Jim, in Madrid.
137 BLACK CAT (#) Jul 18th, 2012 - 01:11 pm Report abuse
135 Simon68 (#)

Your an easy bite
138 TreborDoyle (#) Jul 18th, 2012 - 01:13 pm Report abuse
It will be very interesting to see if this 'defence' co-operation has (1) any effect on the diplomatic stance of either nation internal to S. America or (2) any longer-term effect on the relations of these two countries with those oversees.

'Defence' is a deception position. Striking first can be easily argued to be a 'defence' in and of itself!

I cannot bring myself to believe that colluding in any way with a country such as Venezuala is conducive to the long term interests of Argentina.
139 JohnN (#) Jul 18th, 2012 - 01:59 pm Report abuse
Human Rights Watch attacks 'abuse of power' in Venezuela:

BBC News
17 July 2012

The abuse of power by the Venezuelan government under President Hugo Chavez has increased over the past four years, according to Human Rights Watch.

READ MORE:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18867310
140 Steve-32-uk (#) Jul 18th, 2012 - 06:26 pm Report abuse
www.eurasiareview.com/18072012-falklands-2012-war-or-diplomacy-analysis/
141 Idlehands (#) Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:20 am Report abuse
Has this thread been sprayed with an aphrodisiac to attract all the nutters in one go?
142 Alexei (#) Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:38 pm Report abuse
Speaking of nutters... Chavez isn't just an ordinary nutter, he's a jinx. He has a history of backing losers...

Ken Livingstone: venezuelanalysis.com/files/imagecache/images_set/images/2008/09/livingstone_chavez.jpg
Saddam Hussein: vcrisis.com/imgs/chavez-saddam.jpg
Bashar al-Assad: www.presidentassad.net/SPEECHES/AL_ASSAD_SPEECHES_2010/Bashar_Al_Assad_Chavez_27_6_2010.jpg
Muammar Gaddafi: huey3man.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/chavez-gaddafi.jpg
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: www.moonbattery.com/archives/Hugo_Chavez_Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad.jpg
Fidel Castro: www.latinamericanstudies.org/venezuela/chavez-castro-03.jpg
Robert Mugabe: hurryupharry.org/wp-content/uploads/2005/10/chavez_mugabe1.jpg
Sean Penn: fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/sean_penn_hugo_chavez_not_a_dictato.png
And, of course KFC: www.nationalturk.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/chavez-christina-fernandez-kirchner.jpg

You can judge a man by the company he keeps: vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200604290654
143 Rufus (#) Jul 20th, 2012 - 10:18 am Report abuse
I've been thinking, this alliance between these two millitary powerhouses needs a name that is appropriate for them.

How about “The Axis of Inflation”?
144 Zhivago (#) Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:29 pm Report abuse
A true “Confederacy of Dunces”.
145 JohnN (#) Jul 21st, 2012 - 12:16 am Report abuse
Sad comment about the depth and depravity of corruption in Venezuela in Francisco Toro's recent article in Foreign Policy (link below).

The victims are Venezuelans, many who truly believed in 1998 that voting for Hugo Chávez Frias would make their lives, and those of their children, a bit better.

For some, thats true - especially those who form the cadres of Chávez “Bolivarian” revolution guards - the Sturmtruppen activists in their red berets and red shirts.

For others, its all a huge disappointment. So-called efforts to fight corruption by Chávez haven't improved the Corruption Perception Index - its only 1.9/10 - even worse than Argentina's 3/10.

Reference:
Toros: “Corruption on a Bolivarian scale”: transitions.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/18/corruption_on_a_bolivarian_scale

Corruption Perception Index 2011:
cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/

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