Argentina/US trade conflict escalates following Argüello claims and strong reply from Washington
The current war of words over trade barriers going on between the US and Argentina further escalated tensions on Wednesday as Argentine Ambassador to the US Jorge Argüello highlighted: “the United States has been reported for a number of trade law violations.”
“The United States has already been reported for violating international trade laws that Argentina hasn’t”, said Argüello.
The statements came when the Argentine official was questioned on the action Argentina will take at the World Trade Organization (WTO) regarding the US import restrictions on Argentine lemons and fresh meat.
On Tuesday Argentina declared, via its Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman, that the country would give Washington the US 60 days in order to answer its questions over the import restrictions in place on Argentine products, after a complaint was filed to the WTO.
However the US did not remain quiet and defended its restrictions on imports of beef and lemons from Argentina and again questioned the trade policies from the administration of President Cristina Fernandez.
The United States is surprised and disappointed at Argentina's reaction, USTR spokeswoman Nkenge Harmon said in an emailed statement.
It appears to be part of a disturbing trend in which countries engaged in actions that are inconsistent with their WTO obligations retaliate with counter complaints rather than fix the underlying problem raised in the complaint, she added.
US trade officials have read news reports that Argentina plans to challenge the lemon and beef restrictions, but have not received official word of any action, Harmon said.
Nonetheless, I can say that all US measures relating to imports of Argentine products, including lemons and beef, are science-based and consistent with WTO requirements, she said.
Argentina complained in its press release the US market has been closed to Argentine lemons since 2001 for health concerns, even though other countries accept the fruit.
Argentine citrus is exported to destinations with very high health standards such as the Netherlands, Spain and Italy, which do not question the excellent quality of Argentine produce the Argentine government argued.
It added US restrictions on Argentine beef because of foot-and-mouth disease were unjustified and had cost Argentine ranchers hundreds of millions of dollars in lost sales.
Although the International Health Organization has recognized the southern Patagonia region as free of foot-and-mouth disease, without vaccinations, since 2003, the U.S. government has delayed recognition of this situation, and has unreasonably delayed the authorization for the importation of fresh beef, the Argentine government said.
Harmon said the the fundamental openness of the US market was reflected in US trade data with Argentina. Last year, US imports of Argentine farm products topped 1.64 billion dollars, while US agricultural exports to Argentina totalled 154 million dollars, Harmon said.
However, Argentina is one of the few countries with which the United States enjoys an overall trade surplus. Last year, it exported 9.9 billion dollars worth of goods to Argentina and imported 4.5 billion from that country.
The Spanish conservative newspaper ABC commenting on the current situation in Argentina said that President Cristina Fernandez is involved in “a thousand battles of different degree” and definitively is in the eye of a diplomatic storm given “the particular crusade” she has undertaken “by herself against the world (and trade rules)”.
The battle ground has become the WTO where the Argentine president is burning with Peronist determination the vessels of “her great autarchic dream”, says ABC.
And as enemies multiply by the minute on complaints against the restrictions to imports imposed by the Argentine government, Cristina Fernandez does not back down and continually counterattacks. “Probably until the very end” when left with no resources”, concludes ABC.








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Very true indeed, the rest of the world can see it, so why can't the Argentine people? Ignorance? Nationalism? or just plain old stupidity?
Of course, that is not the entire population, as is evidenced by some of the posters here. Interestingly, my friends in Argentina that have travelled and lived outside of Argentina are far more aware. One put it rather harshly, They just don't know how backward they are. I think that is a bit extreme because most people are just getting through life as best they can and don't have time for the bigger picture.
The article does indicate how out of her depth CFKC is. She hangs onto a failing policy even when it clearly is not working because she has no idea what else to do.
Then of course it will be someone elses fault that the country she leads is on it's knees. ''Blame countries X Y and Z'' she'll be saying, chucking in some malvinista rhetoric to paint over the real issues.
Good look Argentina, you're going to need it...
I keep remembering my Real Estate Agent saying, as I was on the balcony of a new apt, Looks like NYC doesn't it and my response was You've obviously never been there. I have never met one SA that wasn't flabbergasted by how gorgeous and robust NYC is after they went there. My Rg friend says they just have no idea how backward they are.
It is a shame because the brainwashing works, I am sure everyone in N Korea thinks the whole world is starving and out to get them too.
But over to the trade issues. According to the WTO website, argieland has made 15 complaints since the WTO started. But there have been 18 complaints against it and it has been involved, as a third party, in 43. By comparison, there have been 3 complaints against the UK. It hasn't made any complaints and hasn't been involved in any as a third party. Get the idea everybody? Trade with Britain, we're nice!
seriously argentina, why do you let this woman fook you up?? are you just as fooked?? hey i will send some plant pots and maybe just maybe you could grow a spine!
Wouldn't it be easier to acquiesce to all of the USA requests and develop a good working relationship so you can sell into the whole market?
The only motivation I can figure is that CFK wants to look strong to her uneducated population, can you name some others?
Did CFK antagonize China???
China won't back down so I will be curious to see where that mess leads...I don't think policies are very well thought out in Argentina more like knee jerk reactions to everything then backpedaling when they see the outcomes.
Guzz, How many Rgs do you think you will see in PDE if the peso is 10/1?
You think PDE will be empty if the Argentinians don't show?
Matter of fact, Uruguay is doing so good, the domestic tourism is exploding. I'm ok with less rich Argentinians in PDE should that happen. As I'm ok with no yanquis whatsoever...
Has Uruguay come up with a Patacone to U$ conversion rate yet? Might be a good time to get the ball rolling....
The company reportedly told government officials that the situation could worsen drastically in the weeks ahead and that if the problem isn't reversed soon, Sinopec could face trouble paying its service providers and employees.
Read more: www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/08/21/sinopec-may-suspend-argentina-output-on-government-policies-report/#ixzz24NSLwMfQ
The rest of us gets the same service at a lower price :)
You just like to show people you got cash, and then you point with your pointy fingers when someone robs you :)
I guess counting everyone on the dole as having a job helps a bit also over 1/3 of the population works for Fed, Prov or local gov't Hmm that sounds like a great way to run a state...
Lets be logical here,
The usa has the bus,
And we have a bus ticket,
So why not enjoy the ride,
It saves walking, does it not?
Guzzy you are just jealous and pathetic...
I tend to stick to whatever is the local custom or what is typical in the UK when I am uncertain. Something I was advised by a local in Central America was to never over-tip as it would mark you out for mugging or worse.
I kind of understand the beauty of Buenos Aires in that is is like a faded old dowager; you can see it was vibrant, wealthy and attractive decades ago but has decayed. It is not Paris however one tries to squint to make it so. It also has some astonishingly ugly concrete tower blocks of apartments. I always warn visitors that they will pass something resembling a competition to design the ugliest building in the world on the route from the airport to the city centre, but to keep faith because it does get better.
Robbing is still a crime, but if you flash your cash, you are begging for it. Even if the robber goes to jail, as he deserves, you are still dumb :)
If a woman flashed her genitals in public in order to gain attention, and some arse rapes her, he is still a rapist and deserves jail, but she is a fool, just like you in your case :)
That is just sick.
Shall I change language mayhap? Is English tricky for you?
but if you flash your cash, you are begging for it.
Translate that for me....
One can feel sorry for you, but you didn't deserve it...
Must be my lack of idiom, but what language did you grow up in?
Although I am sure you would love to be from the USA or maybe even America junior...Canada...
How your world is set up is anyones guess :)))
But your European. You say so often enough. I'm from Sweden blah, blah, blah.
BTW what do you do again, clean pools in Sweden? Is that a degreed profession in SA?
I could call you a moron for a decade, it doesn't make you one, does it?
The fact that you call yourselves Americans, does not change the fact that America is a lot bigger than you, and it doesn't end at your border. Feel free to call you whatever you wish, but don't expose your ignorance like that. Or, feel free to do so if you wish :)
Ooops..
Guzz,, Its not what I call myself that counts it is what others do. You will never meet a person from USA, Canada, EU, UK, China, Japan or the rest of Asia or Africa, Mexico and Central America that when you say you are American you are from somewhere other than the USA. Don't get all bent out of shape I didn't start the trend. It is just the way it is and always be.
Don't be sad its ok to be a latin american it is almost the same except you clean the places when I am done using them...
I agree, hence you are a yanqui, with lower case letters :)
I think what he is really saying covertly is that he is philospically in line with America and it's values. An American wannabe
BTW it is YANKEE please pay attention or I might start calling you Sudaca.
Sussie Brown - the so called successful mature engineering professional from tampax arizona, who's command of English and pathetic sexual rantings portray her/his true age and identity.
Guzz = the self centered arrogant superior twit of multiple languages, places of residence and who posts from the security of western Europe.
Think - well he just does not think.
Marcos - the king of irrelevant links.
Conqueror - rants from the UK.
British_Kirchnerist - great wind up merchant
One thing though - has anyone noticed that depending on the time of day some of these posters seem have different personalities, you will notice that their use of English and grammar will change.
La Campora must have people working in shifts. :0)
Argentina are going to lose thia at the WTO for two simple reasons:
1) America is basing its rejection of meat and lemons on SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE. That's checking what they receive meets the WTO standards as a minimum. THEY DON'T MEET THEM.
2) TMBOA would not know the truth if it bit her on her Botoxed face.
This is going to end cringingly for Argentina - but they won't even notice the rest of the world laughing at them.
@34 You mean the rotten branch. And more like a twig, actually.
@36 Sorry. You're dagoes at best.
@38 You mean you ran away from LatAm when the going got a little tough. Molino's hog-nosed skunk.
@43 Yanqui is gibberish, isn't it? Sometimes called spanish. What only poor people speak.
@48 You've heard of shoes then, have you?
@50 Was there supposed to be anything meaningful in that summary?
@52 Why isn't the US using the information on use of unacceptable veterinary drugs, growth hormones, unacceptable growing conditions and so forth?
Well, accept the facts...
@50 is another Generic Gay from the UKteam and cannot THINK before he opens his mouth....
I am waiting to receive a reply from @50...but I don't think he dares....
I DID NOT PLACE SUCH COMMENT!
BUT ACCEPT THE FACTS...
ONLY A COWARD CAN TRASPASS
SO, PLEASE STAND UP
AND TELL US
WHO
YOU ARE!
How difficult is it for you to understand that if you cannot keep F&M under control people will NOT WANT YOUR MEAT.
Stop your pathetic whining and adapt, adapt adapt.
How difficult, pratface Arguello, is it to understand that if your lemons are poisoned by artificial colouring and disease that people DO NOT WANT TO CONSUME them?
So stop whining like a fairy, adapt your agriculture to sell GOOD products and you will prosper-so, so, so, simple.
The Falkland Islands produce is ORGANIC-that's why it sells.
Do yourself a favour Argentina, employ the FIG as consultants and your country will become very rich. Instead of insulting the Falkland Islanders , USE THEM!!!!!!!!
Why on earth do you think that DESPITE Argentina's spineless, bullying and pathetic inneffective sanctions against the FIs they are able to attract investment and finance ?
Work it out and you will once again be a rich nation rather than a bunch of moaners.
Man up, don't whine all the time.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
the falkands islands produce is ORGANIC-that's why it sells.....
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
Take a look what the Internet shows about the islands....
3,000 R E T A R D A T S
MOTHER NATURA, MOTHER NATURE
HURRY UP!
ROCK THE ISLANDS AWAY....
WHO WANTS THE RETARDS
ONLY THE UK....
pjmedia.com/blog/britains-already-dead/
but the goverment will keep trying,
shame on you camaron, you make that little piece of white paper,
look almost priceless,
and the local begger look almost sane.
is this what you have turned us into,
come back margaret .
Meanwhile Argentina erradicated West Nile in 1993, and Dengue fever in 2010 after that 100 year event in 2008 or whenever it was.
This is a country where Whooping cough is making a comeback all over, and where there is a major salmonella outbreak underway as we speak. This is country that with Mexico invented the pork flu in 2009, because up there they enjoy fornicating pigs.
This is a country that worries about foot-and-mouth (and btw, all cases in Argentina happen in the fart north by the border with Paraguay/Brazil... coincidence???), but they have reported cases of MAD COW, this year.
Given all the info above, only one thing remains to be typed:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
...sounds like most of your other posts, actually.
It must be you! Good try to deny, though.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Viva Argentina!
goooooooooooooood daaaayyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Make that sybilUS with multiple conflicting personalities. :-D
Congratulations, once again, you've shown yourself to be a true nut job
Written by a film critic ? He spends too much time watching X-men or Spiderman to know what's going on in the world. The corpses are still walking around here, or maybe we are Zombies and just don't know it.
If this is the case we must be invincible - Arg. watch out !
Come on...Didn't you see Prince Hurry...Oh...I mean Harry naked pictures publized in the UK?
Can you tell me what he likes to show beside his nuts?
lol
In the other article write, she stated she looks like Anal Lips (CFK) after a work day.
Sounds like Harry has a healthy sex life and sexual orientation, unlike you with deranged fantasies!!
Try to deflect things all you like, you really blew it!!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
For those wondering about sussie/Sybil's sanity and sexual preferences ,
“Cristina looks like me after a day of work. As a working woman I understand her. I am a strong Argentinean woman and not matter what you say I will be here for 4 more years.
Those people who copy me...///... you can’t copy me, I am Susana Brown.
I do live in US. I came here to escape from my town in Patagonia. I grew up there but when was I very just being sexually active girl I was looked after by a Peruvian worker. He used to pick me up on way back from school. I didn’t like him first but then I like to call him papi. When I got pregnated for the first time by him my baby looked like a Peruvian. My parents sent me to USA. Here I have to work real hard turning lots of tricks, lots of man...sometimes 15 a day. But im proud, im gonna get back to Patagonia and buy some land better than the falklands.
BUT LETS FACE THE FACTS:
I miss my Peruvian papi, he liked my rossy arse. He used to screw my arse all day
Bang, bang, bang, pppuuurrrrrrfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!
But now my arse get screwed all day by many men and some don’t pay just
Bang, bang, bang, pppuuurrrrfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!
Drip, drip, my poor rossy arse.”
Please explain why you posted that, sussie???
It appears on other threads posted by you, as well.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
A pattern emerges. There are lots of losers in this system but one clear winner: the Western banks and US Treasury, making the big bucks off this crazy new international capital churn. Stiglitz told me about his unhappy meeting, early in his World Bank tenure, with Ethopia's new president in the nation's first democratic election. The World Bank and IMF had ordered Ethiopia to divert aid money to its reserve account at the US Treasury, which pays a pitiful 4% return, while the nation borrowed US dollars at 12% to feed its population. The new president begged Stiglitz to let him use the aid money to rebuild the nation. But no, the loot went straight off to the US Treasury's vault in Washington.
Now we arrive at Step Four of what the IMF and World Bank call their poverty reduction strategy: Free Trade. This is free trade by the rules of the World Trade Organization and World Bank, Stiglitz the insider likens free trade WTO-style to the Opium Wars. That too was about opening markets, he said. As in the 19th century, Europeans and Americans today are kicking down the barriers to sales in Asia, Latin American and Africa, while barricading our own markets against Third World agriculture.
Here is Ethiopa's transactions from 1984 through 2012. Loans, repayments and interest. Not activity since 2010
www.imf.org/external/np/fin/tad/extrans1.aspx?memberKey1=290&endDate=2012-08-26&finposition_flag=YES
The things about borrowing money, if you do not intend to pay it back, like argentina, do not borrow. No one holds a gun to your head and forces you to borrow. Money costs money. People that do not have money do not and cannot understand the time value of money and the purpuse of lending it to make money. Higher risk higher rates.
187 million in loans to Ethiopia since 2009 and less than 300,000 in interest payments
I think SA would do the world a favor and keep all trade in their own borders and start by no longer selling to Europe, Asia and North America. That will make all you trolls happy. But that means that all businesses for those countries will be packing and moving out as well. They can sell all residual assets to SA governments. Cash in dollars only please.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fast_and_Furious
Trafficking guns might be less corrupt and more lucrative then getting a loan from IMF or exporting lemons and meat to USA.
I don't know where you are from but Don't you have some school or community shooting event to go to??
Why don't you ask Anal lips.....aka turkey neck to drop her baseless claims and we will and let's not trade. We buy 56 billion of imported goods from argentina and export 68 billion. Out of a 15 trillion dollar GDP, we can handle the loss. Work on that at your next round robin meeting at camp rosado.
Check out @80 by sussie/Susana
and then check out britona's post on the CFK Health thread:
Another post from sussie/Susana/Sybil, writing now as “britona” on the CFK Health thread.
See if the format looks familiar:
“ps.
Hey, Hello to all of you.....
as you know I am on R...& ....R,,,,,,,,,,
/////////////////////
You know
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, R stands for,,,,,,,,
RECTUM,,,,,,,,,,,
and
other the other R,,,,,,,, stands for,,,,,,,,//////
RELIEF
WELL, YES,
I AM GENERIC GAY,
YOU KNOW GUYS,
THE GENERIC GAY FROM THE UK
THE ONE WITH THE PINK ARSE,
SOME TIME KNOWN AS BRITON
BUT THIS IS WHO
I AM
BRITONA IS THE NAME
AND
ISOLDA, LA PAVOTA
NOTHING ELSE
SHE CAN DO!
O! WELL, YOU KNOW ZHIVAGO,
CONQUEROR
AND CONOR LOUDEN-BROWN,
WE ALL DESERVE SUCH R & R
WHICH MEANS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,///////
RECTUM RELIEF!
[lol]
RELIEF,,,,,,,,,,,, ”
Good try sussie/Susana/britona
Why do you write about your deranged sexual fantasies??
I hope you get along better with your neighbours in the Tempe trailer park.
You seem very angry.
That's happen when you, the UK team insults my country..
you see...
this will not stop..and will continue for the next 4 years...
so be prepare...
more is coming for Conor Louden Brown, Isolde, Zhivago... Conqueerrrrrr, Captain Poppy, Yensere, Skare, and the rest of the UK team known as CLOWNS....
I am arrogant, a racist and atheist..
I don't talk to US americans living in trailer parks...
or
the indians living in their reservations because they are very uneducated people
similar to the EngineerAbroad..
who claims be from the UK, but,
hardly can spell.. words...from the only language he speaks....english.
So, get lost,
and mind you own country: the UK,
and be sure to get some underwear for UK Prince Harry...
the whole world is seeing his naked arse....Poufffffffffffffffff stinky arse!
Here again is Isolde writting!
I am not trying to hide my identity again!
If the UK Team likes to offend the argentine leader calling her
unacceptable words,.....I play the same game....
UK Prince Harry ARSE photo is in all news around the world, except in the UK.....Why don't you teach him some manners, Isolde...
You see, nothing of what you said makes sense Isolde, you are running out of names....and comments to post!
Blow your head off....looser!
lol lol lol,,,,,,//////
You are afraid of Isolde aren't you!?
I am arrogant, a racist and atheist..
I don't talk to US americans living in trailer parks...
or
the indians living in their reservations because they are very uneducated people
Thanks for identifying that you are a racist and despise the poor - idiot!!
I look better than the argentine president and I am very healthy... but I support her no matter what...please, you need to understands that my 2 countries the USA and Argentina are in a very difficult economic situation...and will take years to fix such bad economy.
So I don't like the UK team making offensive comments to her such as
turkey neck...etc.
Sussie is a really bad advocate for CFK, even if she looks similar as she says, which I doubt!
Well, BK, do you mean that Sushi is more man-like?? LOL LOL
This government has bullied their neighbours into supporting their fanatical case against the tiny nation of the Falklands.
Do they not understand that eventually every nation will run out of patience? All the free-will will be lost, and the government has used it all on what exactly? Trying to steal a bunch of Islands from under the feet of the Islanders.
I'm starting to get fed up with the Argentine government.
Sussie,
Can you recommend a place to live, in the USA ?
I got some reviews for Arbour Park Apartments in Tempe Arizona.
1901 Apache , right?
local.yahoo.com/info-20052499-arbour-park-tempe
I am really glad I live in Uruguay having seen the comments for these cardboard boxes.
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