Two out of three Argentines reject a third re-election for Cristina Fernandez
Two out of three Argentines reject the proposal of reforming the constitution opening the way for a third consecutive mandate for President Cristina Kirchner, according to pollster Poliarquía Consultores and published on Sunday in Buenos Aires daily La Nacion.
Rejection to a possible third re-election cuts across the political and social spectrum of Argentina, including among those who support the president and her policies: 39% said they were against such an initiative.
The public opinion poll with 1.000 interviews covering the whole of Argentina also shows a 52% positive image of Cristina Fernandez against 47% negative, which is just above the percentages a few months before the death (October 2010) of her husband former president Nestor Kirchner and eleven points below a year ago when a few weeks later she was re-elected for the first time with a strong majority and overwhelming distance over all the other candidates.
The poll shows that disagreement with the constitutional amendments including the re-election clause (currently limited to one four year period at a time) is almost total among those October 2011 opposition voters and reaches 95%. Geographically in the city of Buenos Aires the rejection is the highest, 81% but in the metropolitan area, the stronghold of the government, such an option is supported by 36%, meaning they would accept a third consecutive mandate for Cristina Fernandez.
Also among the young there seems to be an inclination with support standing at 35%. The poll does not include those aged 16 to 18, which the government is sponsoring in Congress by amending the Electoral Code and which is to be discussed next week.
Based on these percentages it could be said that the constitutional reform won’t make it. But Fabian Perechodnik analyst from Poliarquia warns that experience shows ‘Kirchnerism’ has a great communicational capacity to overturn in its favour even adverse public opinion. Although “current social circumstances are far more adverse than those in the last election when Cristina Fernandez won by a 54% windfall in October 2011”.
To gauge such circumstances, ‘social humour’, Poliarquía has a “Citizen Optimism index” which reflects the spirit of Argentines based on a combination of several questions. This index since April has become pessimist, following a long period of optimism that took off in early 2010. The descending curve was interrupted last May when the nationalization of oil and gas corporation YPF. But since then the slide is steeper.
However and contrary to some recent opinion polls, Poliarquía states that the performance of Cristina Fernandez has more support than rejection, 51% to 47%. This is less than a year ago, but above other Augusts: in 2008 it was 36 points and the following, 34.
Poliarquía also points out that the president’s support is very strong among those voters form 18 to 30 years, with 57%. Among those over 50, it drops to 46 while rejection climbs to 51%. Men are more positive about Cristina, 57% than women, 46%. Regionally the capital Buenos Aires remains an anti Kirchner bastion with 70% rejection while in the metropolitan area, the Kirchner voting turf, support is just above 60%.
Another interesting aspect of the opinion poll is the love or hate reasons. The positive qualities of Cristina Fernandez are her “social security” policies, her performance as well as her impetus and personal strength and will.
“These are the same positive aspects which surfaced since 2010 among those supporting government. It’s a clear, steady, straight line”, said Perechodnik.
On the other side, those who disapprove of her government point out as most negative her “performance” and personally her intolerable “arrogant character”.
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She's now run out of tricks regarding The Falklands to wow the great unwashed.
You can only bang a drum so long before you put a hole in it, and then the music stops.
INDEC maths at it's finest...
For every scrotum necked cloud there is a massive silver lining.
CFK's bullying of the Falkland Islands has AT LAST awoke FIG out of their long hibernation to tell the world their side of things and also has made FI supporters examine the history (rather than accept carte blanche Argentina's crap )which has discovered Argentina's dogma is shot full of holes.
As a result of Argentina's hostility the Falkland Islands are gaining more (not less supporters, and more reason to suggest why they should not consider becoming part of a country that has to buy votes.
Though hopefully there will be elected, a pragmatic Argentine president who has not been brainwashed at school with misleading and innaccurate history based on inherited Nazi dogma(ie Peron, Hitler's buddy).
Surely this cannot be ....The “beautiful fragrant Cristina” not wanted.
They are obviously stupid or have no idea what they really want and so .....lets shaft the constitution suspend democracy and give ugly cow another term.
Yeah...problem solved.
Chuckle chuckle
Is it still Democracy, when the ammending of the vote is to allow the “bought” populist to vote and to gain unfair advantage for the “K reich”.
strange how yet another megalomaniac has championed the deluded militant youth in a last throw of the dice, and as i remember that didnt turn out to well for “Hitler”
Personally i hope she stays, nobody does economic,diplomatic and social demolition quite like the “K model” :)))
she will always get my vote, on comedy value alone!!
All you peronist pricks needs to die and hopefully all of this will die with her.
Its called being right. And pointing out the quality of the opposition. If 2/3rds don't want her to have a 3rd term, fine, don't vote for her. But why restrict her right to stand and the rights of her supporters to vote for her. And I think come the election whether the Kirchnerist candidate is Cristina or someone else - Timmerman would be a great choice imho, or Alicia, or Kicillof - I predict they'll win. Who else can - Macri the crook, Scioli the Menemist etc?! And remember when Cristina won last time with 54% of the vote it was another left party that came 2nd - the right have a long way to go and I don't think they'll make it =)
The National Constitution sets limits to Governments to avoid having power groups ruling the country for decades. It's a basic concept in any repuclic.
I understand that you might not have great respect for the National Constitution but there is no any real reason for changing the it except a new CFK reelection and his “coronation” as “Queen of Argentina”.
I remind you that the Head of Government of Buenos Aires won the election for more than 60% of the votes.
Furthermore, only a teenager lacking political conepts can define a Peronist government as “leftist”. Peronism has ever been and still is basically populist conservatism with little attachment to constitutional rights and obligations.
Please do not scare off the British people (or people from the FI) that read articles of this site with your fascist and populist arguments.
Just respect the law and the Constitution !!!! quite easy
www.penguin-news.com/index.php?option=com_flexicontent&view=items&id=417:argentine-warship-harasses-fishing-vessels-in-falklands-waters
somethings never change, unlike Argentinas “Falkland history”
SELF-DETERMINATION!!
not just her but the whole lot of them. Boudou, Timmerman, Moreno, A Fernandez et al.
You are a childish and immature person. How old are you? 15, 16 years old?
You are the kind of person who makes your countrymen feel ashamed of you and of being Argentine.
The majority of Argentine people would despise your stupid coments.
I hope CFK would ever think about doing something stupid with FI again, so she would have to be face to face with a stronger one. Unfortunately, she is not so stupid..so she prefers to steal poor and unprotected own people and leave the country in ruins again.
“videla and galtiery” as tourism is booming im sure he would be very welcome, but as a visitor only and no pesos they have enough toilet paper, and no early morning jogging with a tv crew.
“mines around The Falklands”, “nuclear defence” is this your way of making peace with The Falklands, your charmer you!
can i just ask how do you know “2 out of 3 people” would use violence against The Falklands, did you ask the entire Tard population or just in your cell??
but this will be for the argie people to decide.
You would probably end up blowing your own ships up, we all know your technology is about 50 years behind ours. You are a little insane actually! Anyway back to Crustina, is this how dictatorships start?
A good idea ! We could really finish the job started in 1982 - with a vengeance !!!!!!
HAhaHAhaHA
any more pearls of wisdom or are you a one trick pony ?
We know that you are living in Ontario, Canada, yet you say you are an Argentinian.
“my family left Argentina...”
How old were you when you left? You said indignantly, that you know what it is like to live in Argentina because you lived there.
Were you an adult or a child?? Did you ever live in Kirchnerist Argentina? Did you ever have to earn a living for your family there?
Or, did you grow up safely in Canada with a stable government and economy?
Aren't you grateful for the free high-quality, education you received here, and the free and reliable medical services?
Are you a Canadian citizen, now?? You do know that an applicant for Canadian citizenship is also pledging an allegiance to Canada's society and it's people.
Are you still living at home? Do you have ANY experience making a living for yourself as an adult??
You have a lot of opportunities here, yet you seem to be inexplicably angry.
Are you frustrated for some reason?
You seem to have trouble keeping your temper. I have to wonder, do you have a Criminal Record?
You have said that you wish you could return to Argentina.
What is the problem?
If you are not prevented from travelling by a Criminal Record, then it must be that you CHOOSE not to return, for some other reason.
Nobody in Canada would stop you from going...
Where did you get that one person, “the cosen”, could save an entire country? That is facism !!!
You ingored all of my comments about the “partnership” among the Peronist leaders to protect themselves from their legal offences, curruption and to vote each other's bills as senators.
You are a native american whose family participaed in the UCR? Quite strange !!!
Still a week is a long time in politics, and this is probably still some years away.
@Prat Hunter
You should know that a “third term” for CFK really works for the Brits.
Wouldn’t want someone competent or believable arguing the Argy case in the world (that applies double for TinPotMan).
Also with the country “in ruins”, you’re no real threat to us.
But you don’t live there, so you don’t care if the place gets trashed.
Your concern for your country, and fellow countrymen, is underwhelming.
Those who say Argentina is doing better than even conveniently forget most of that is from creating the biggest default in the history of the world and then enjoying the worlds growth and increases in commodity prices, not good management of the economy as we have seen now with the economic collapse Argentina is going through whilst suffering the worst relations with the global powers for a 100 years.
Essentially the K's got lucky for a little while and are now failing miserably.
#32 don't you like Maradona, menem, macri or galtieri??? Lol come on!
Word-CFK!! Pasala.
You still owe me the responso to some of my comments: the corruption of CFK, her partnership with past governments, the warnings sent by the UN to her about the ogiginal people human rights violation and the need to consider her as “the choosen” leader.
You are not a native person at all, it's quite easy to identify you. I usged you to stop with your charade that stops being funny to be pathetic
“The lines that Europeans drew on the ground is for the white man not us.”
Is this your way of telling us you’re an “Illegal”(word for that in Spanish isn’t there), probably why you stay there, if you leave you might not be able to get back.
Read your own (so you claim) history, Inca, Aztec and Mayan empires all had boundaries just like all countries or empires.
If fact traveling around the pre-Columbian Americas would have been suicidal compared to today.
“#30 freedom keeps me here. Self determination keeps me here.”
So, our society is good then, and you want to live in it.
But you have already stated that you would prefer to return to Argentina
LOL LOL
Oh, you have avoided all the questions too.
Good try, kid.
First day of school tomorrow, remember.
Early to bed
:-)
Good try, kid.
Is she “The most credible”?
If so, why is Argentina close to be (again) the “Risk Country World Cup” champion?
Why was she not able to found “another” partner to invest money to take the oil out of the oil wells? (Please, note that I'm not talking about prospecting just to take oil out of wells of proven richness?)
Please, I believe that the FI belong to Argentina but I'm not such bad person to punish the islander in such a way. Being Argentine now, and being ruled, by CFK is simply an act of cruelty !!!!
Please, leave the islander in peace for a while !!!..in the meanwhile CFK might start taking care of the QOM people and stop violating their human rights.
#38 lucky us times have changed no Mohawk has asked me to go home. And I don't think labeling native Americans illegal will help colonists any. Unfortunately for you there is no Inca, Aztec or maya lines on the ground and the people don't persecute each other as Europeans do. Welcome to America.
Yor still owe your oppinion about the following issues:
The corruption of CFK
Her partnership with past governments
The warnings sent by the UN to her about the human violation against original people (your people...)
The need to consider her as “the choosen” leader.
Don't be afraid, don't be shy...what could happen? just make a fool.
#44 I can't give you my opinion over accusations made by bias and corrupt sources. Doing so will allow you to build up theories based on innuendo. I don't know what warning UN sent CFK but here is the lastone printed in mercopress.
Praise for President Cristina Fernandez from UN World Tourism Organization
en.mercopress.com/2012/09/03/praise-for-president-cristina-fernandez-from-un-world-tourism-organization
odhpi.org/2011/12/onu-duro-informe-por-situacion-de-indigenas-en-argentina/
www.andhes.org.ar/?p=754
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEWh44kUPAU
This is happening NOW. Dont' blame Roca, Rosas or Sarmiento. Blame it to CFK !!!! this is the right face of CFK and her “perfect” government
As much as you and I disagree about the Falklands, thanks for stepping in to point out to everyone the lies PH is trying to pass off as truth.
A few half truths, laced with Official, but unrelated web links and statistics is a common propaganda ploy.
Fortunately, you, me, Hepatia, Happy Canuck, ElaineB, and others can see this.
As valueless as PH posts are, its Important that his tactics are exposed to the rest of the audience here.
Other than that, while he winds everyone up, he will never be “convinced”.
Obviously, he is only interested in himself.
I agree with you too, he must be very young and possibly mentally ill.
With that in mind, I'm not going to bait him or bother to respond to him anymore.
That being said, I wonder if he is a Canadian citizen. I asked him already and pointed out that to accept citizenship it implies an allegiance to the society and people of Canada.
He has not answered.
Has anyone pointed out to him that the world does not owe him ANYTHING.
There are 7 billion others and nobody is owed a living.
Neither has he contributed anything to earn it.
“The world is not fair”
Actually it would have been much safer than travelling around pre-Columbian Europe. Don't flatter yourself, you are a continent of utter rabid savages.
“Kirchener's Oil Expropriation Backfires”
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303640104577440540662290120.html
Looks like she really screwed up in many ways...
Prat Hunter is an illigal imigrant living in Canada, his real name being Alex Vargas, I have had many run in's with him on Facebook, where he openly admits to shoplifting and any other form of theft that will harm the Canadian economy.
In my opinion, he is mentally de-ranged with a massive chip on his shoulder and is best ignored.
And who the hell believes in the WSJ?? Do you believe in the Iraqui Minister of Info too?
NYT = NBC = has a social struggle agenda
Same with Telegraph vs Guardian, Le Figaro vs Le Monde, ABC vs El Pais, La Nacion vs Pagina 12...
You don't have objective media in your country, nor does it exist in most countries. Just accept it an move on.
“47 Troy Tempest
Prat Hunter is an illigal imigrant living in Canada, his real name being Alex Vargas, I have had many run in's with him on Facebook, where he openly admits to shoplifting and any other form of theft that will harm the Canadian economy.
In my opinion, he is mentally de-ranged with a massive chip on his shoulder and is best ignored.”
Thank you, Ken.
Not surprising - he certainly let's everyone know he is completely amoral.
Any other I formation on him that can be shared?
I think everyone should know.
Where does he live?
I am assuming Scarborough Ontario
Facts, the fact you didn't muster one objection is enough proof.
The Mohawks would have scalped PH, the Incas would have put him to work as a slave, the Aztecs and Mayans would have cut out his beating heart as an offering to their gods.
I grant you Europe at that time was at best marginally better, however my comparison was with today.
The blood of those “utter rabid savages” flows in your veins same as ours. It is just as much you historical legacy as it is ours.
It would seem that as an illegal,
PH is the real thief LOL
Please publish his Facebook link.
Is he Alex Vargas the self-styled musician?
seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2019064782_apltargentinarussiagas.html
same words..I received from you and all the rubbish bloody english people..ah!..their defensive tactics...are boring.
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=j0fywBbhvxo&NR=1
This would take her to about age 75.
This strategy would give her an extra four years to maximise her personal fortune.
The only problem might be if her puppet turned out to be better than she. The tactic is to choose a 'grey man' (like the way Lula gave the presidentship to Dilma).
It worked for Putin.
Of course there is always the 'Hugo Strategy'. The life-long presidency of a dictatorship under the guise of democracy.
The majority of the Argentinian public might like the way this is sold to them, and vote for it.
This could be the first authenticated case of turkeys voting for Christmas.
“YPF announced NO SPECIFICS following the meeting in Moscow led by YPF President Miguel Galuccio and Gazprom board president Alexey Miller, but said the accord COULD lead to partnerships with the Russians in drilling for shale oil and gas in the South American country, as well as more supplies of Russian liquefied natural gas for Argentina's energy-hungry economy.”
m24digital.com/en/2012/09/06/controversial-video-of-a-rock-band-with-erotic-images-of-president-cristina-fernandez/
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