Friday, September 14th 2012 - 03:40 UTC

Thousands across Argentina take to the streets to protest against re-re-election

Appealing to social networks thousands of Argentines Thursday evening took to the streets of the country’s major cities to protest some of the latest measures from the government of President Cristina Fernandez including the re-re-election plans and the increasing restrictions to the purchase of dollars.

Demonstrators in Buenos Aires with signs, pots and pans protest loudly

Cristina Fernandez from San Juan said protests “don’t make me nervous’

“NO to re-re-election” said the signs carried by middle class protestors marching along the streets of Buenos Aires to the historic Plaza de Mayo next to Casa Rosada, Government House while thousands surrounded the presidential residence in Olivos, in the outskirts of the capital banging pots and telling the president eight years was more than enough.

The demonstrations were organized via social networks, with a few weeks anticipation, but the massive turnout surprised political parties and leaders from the opposition and the ruling coalition.

Other major marches were reported in Rosario next to the Flag Monument, Cordoba, Mendoza, Mar del Plata, Bariloche where people protested against “the re-re-election and reform of the Constitution,” ”to defend institutions, and the right of free speech” plus demanding punishment for the officials responsible for a score of train crashes and the high criminality rates.

The re-re-election initiative is sponsored by a group of Kirchnerite intellectuals and some lawmakers, governors, ministers and mayors who are described as fundamentalist supporters of Cristina Fernandez. Although she has made no indication of supporting the initiative, the president has not stopped the campaign.

Speaking from the northeast of the country at the opening of a textile factory for Lacoste in the province of San Juan, President Cristina Fernandez said that the current protests against her administration “don’t make me nervous and won’t make me nervous” and promised to keep working actively.

“No matter where I am, I will keep doing what I always did: working actively, because I don’t know anything else since I have done this all my life, work and political militancy” she said in a rally following the opening of the factory.

During the rally in San Juan groups of young militants called for the re-re-election and held signs allusive to another four years for the president.

Cristina Fernandez took office in 2007 and was re-elected in 2011 for a second four year period. However under the 1994 constitution she can’t bid for a third period and to reform the constitution needs a special majority in Congress of two thirds in both Houses which her coalition does not have.

Another middle class motive of protest are the impediments to purchase and hold dollars or any other currency, which the government alleges needs to pay the energy bill, honour foreign debt and to have a sufficient cushion of foreign reserves of at least 45 billion dollars in the Central bank.

More specifically in Greater Buenos Aires demonstrators marched to protest a wave of killings and violent crimes, (confirmed by police stats), which has everybody scared but also furious with the passivity of authorities and the growing audacity of the perpetrators.

October next year President Cristina Fernandez faces mid term election to renew half the Lower House and a third of the Senate. Political analysts doubt the president will repeat the support of her re-election in October 2011 when she managed 54.11% of votes cast and almost thirty points ahead of her runner up. She might then be exposed to growing instability from her own ranks as a new leader makes its way up. In the US they call it the ‘lame duck’ syndrome.
 

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1 brit abroad (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:02 am Report abuse
Opening the bets now:

10 to 1 KFC brings up the falklands again

3 to 1 KFC get ill again

2 to 1 KFC uses her husband as a sympathy card

20 to 1 KFC buys a new dress
2 JoseAngeldeMonterrey (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:17 am Report abuse
The time is come, the populist and demagogue governments that spread accross south america a decade ago are begining to come to an end, people are tired of their erratic economic and social policies. They will go, or else, the people will kick them out violently.
3 slattzzz (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:30 am Report abuse
And so it begins.......whats poor old BK going to do when there are no more pictures of Botox head spread across Mercopress....still will save on tissues I suppose
4 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:33 am Report abuse
2 JoseAngeldeMonterrey
“the people will kick them out violently”
Are you talking about the 60000 dead since Calderon took office?
5 puerto argentino (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:34 am Report abuse
Go Cristina go!! we give you all the support!!!
6 MaxAue (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:44 am Report abuse
Waiting for the worms to come....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSeAfSKQe4
7 Ayayay (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:20 am Report abuse
. The president's recent Tweet didn't seem.. sane. Maybe I'm lost in translation lol.
Something about “Horrible leaders are to blame for crisis.”

[@CFKArgentina “Lo peor q nos ha pasado han sido cataclismos de horribles gobiernos q nos hundieron en crisis institucionales y culturales”]

Does that mean safer more food-secure nations like Singapore (& the U.S.) deserve CREDIT for good gov?

I don't credit or blame one person. These are democracies. Hasn't Argentina had a new currency every twenty years?
8 Boovis (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:25 am Report abuse
@5: yes, we give her the support to go as well, anything it takes, just go.
9 puerto argentino (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:39 am Report abuse
@8
no worries, we will give her all that she need! Cristina 2015 President!! Go Cris Goooo!!!
10 Dr. Jeorbbels (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:45 am Report abuse
@1
you forgot injection of botox for new image
11 puerto argentino (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:56 am Report abuse
Please!! Do not forget of cameron's fat boy! also have their own history!!!
12 annamello (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:29 am Report abuse
Buenos Aires is a city beautiful, and don´t believe more at cristina. www.satelliteview.org/satellite/Obelisk_of_Buenos_Aires
13 yankeeboy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:00 am Report abuse
Argentina Spring? They need to keep this up .. they just need a little spark....
14 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:10 am Report abuse
@1 I think she is playing the widow-woman card again with this remark, “If we take everything that’s happened to us into account, I ask God not to give me any more suffering.” Astonishingly narcissistic.
15 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 10:25 am Report abuse
If they can keep this up they can make hera lame duck president. Until the mid terms, the good people of Argentina will need to endure her BS, black widow dresses and further suffering. Monthly protests like this until next year. It was impressive from the accounts of people that I know that were there, they were surprised at the turn out.
16 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 10:51 am Report abuse
This was surprising. It seems that we still have hope.
It was a peaceful well organized protest, not like those made by thugs, rioters or those paid by sindicates.

This is a sign of good things to come. Its also good to see that people are waking up and willing to put a stop to this regime.
People did not only protest because of the re-re election, it was also because of many liberties that they have taken, the crime and insecurity on the streets, the corruption that never ends and the lies on the INDEC (Or like i call them FAILDEC)

Nonetheless i look forward to take part on another protest.
17 Boovis (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 10:53 am Report abuse
She's the modern equivalent of those victorian battleaxes who act like cows then pretend to faint to get sympathy when you give it back.
18 ChrisR (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:19 am Report abuse
Nervous?

Then whats the brown stuff running down her legs.

Tango 1 on stand-by yet?
19 Santa Fe (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:37 am Report abuse
Oops CFK's Reich is starting to break down...where are the Trolls, I imagine they have been ordered to leave this story alone.
20 Usurping Pirate (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:47 am Report abuse
13 & 16 : The problem remains the same , there is a lot of oposition , but it is fragmented , so this mad cow will remain till the place literally implodes .
21 agent999 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:48 am Report abuse
They are waiting to called up when CFK declares a state emergency

“The Argentine Government has declared a state of emergency after violence erupted over the country's worsening economic crisis. ”

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1720265.stm
22 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:59 am Report abuse
The opposition has to take this opportunity to seize the moment and tap the anger that is growing. If they can coalesce their efforts and tap this frustration, thenm can have impact in the mid terms.
Chris tango one is grounded for repairs. lol
23 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
@20
More and more people are waking up, it will take time but i believe change will be achieved at one time or another.
Its a shame there are to many KKs selling their souls for a vino, choripan, planes sociales and asignacion por hijo.

The government keep hem in the line of poverty and these people don't realize that they are pawns ofr the regime.
This is just like Carlitos Mernem times, it was all laugh and jokes until there was no more money.

At all this, where is El ThickPoo and Retard Kirchnerist. I bet they are hiding now.
24 gustbury (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 12:29 pm Report abuse
The people has been expressed and is right in many cases,but don't forget that whoever governs, we continue claiming what is ours.¡Malvinas Argentinas!
25 agent999 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
@24

Your Argentina, a land that should be so good and productive, is being lost/stolen/mismanaged every day by your government.

The Falkland Islands will never be yours.
26 EnginnerAbroad (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
All, just share some scenes from the city of San Juan,Argentina last night. Appologise that the article is in Spanish it is from the local rag.

Estimates put the crowd size at between 5,000 and 10,000 people.

www.diariodecuyo.com.ar/home/new_noticia.php?noticia_id=538465
27 yankeeboy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 01:06 pm Report abuse
26. That was such an embarrassment for CFK, she looked like a coward trying to avoid the protests in BA. I seriously think she is losing ( or lost) her mind.
Keep it up...if she is not gone it is only going to get worse and worse
28 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 01:11 pm Report abuse
More than 10.000 in Mendoza as well, others newspaper say 20.000
elsolonline.com/noticias/view/147564/mas-de-10-mil-mendocinos-se-manifestaron-en-el-centro-en-contra-del-gobierno-nacional
29 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 01:43 pm Report abuse
And still they refuse reality. On the news last night my in laws were telling me a pro government guy was being interviewed amnd all he keep saying was....“ this is nothing more than the elite in recoleta reacting to the U$ dollar restriction and nothing more”. Yet they were protecting across the entire country, even at ass lips kirchner's private residence.
30 Simon68 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
Quote from senator Aníbal Ferández: “Very nice the protests, but I don't know what they are protesting about.”

You can see that the Victory Front politicians are really in touch with the PEOPLE!!!!!
31 ALE1 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 01:58 pm Report abuse
28 Sir Rodderick Bodkin

Do you live in the city of Mendoza?
32 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
CFK re-re-re-elected,

Vows to remain as QUEEN FOR LIFE

funnywebjokes.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/00grandma.jpg
33 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:07 pm Report abuse
@30 Anibal speaking like that and CFKC saying she isn't scared, is likely to inflame the protesters even more. Arrogance is not going to get them out of this mess. They should be acting humble and take the complaints seriously if they want to placate the masses.

And CFKC trying her widow-woman-I-did-not-have-cancer victim stance is not going to be well received. Instead of talking about HER suffering she should be acknowledging how the people are suffering. What is she suffering from? A lack of shoes? Not having cancer? Living in a ivory tower with everything she could possibly desire?
34 Tobers (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
@14

----“If we take everything that’s happened to us into account, I ask God not to give me any more suffering.” Astonishingly narcissistic----

Did she really say that?!!!

She is a politician. A professional. Its her job to formulate and manage politics. Not to put across her personal feelings at every opportunity. Shes not in the 'Big Brother' diary room for fcuks sake!

Im really not a fan of PM Cameron but hes never used the death of his child in any way to garner sympathy or publicly show self pity.

@30

Did Anibal Fernandez really say that? Didnt he also say that ''if you dont save in dollars you are stupid' ? Iow the vast majority of Argentines are stupid.

Come on Argentines! Keep it up to get rid of this uber arrogant, malevolent, narcissistic lot.
35 Condorito (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:18 pm Report abuse
@26 Engineer,
I was over there in San Juan recently visiting a friend who has been sent over to “that” side of Pascua-drama. Something that astonished me was the complete lack of food in supermarkets.

Here in La Serena the supermarkets are overflowing with food of every variety, but just over the border the situation is so drastically different. It is no wonder the 10s of thousands who come over here in summer go crazy in the supermarkets.

On the positive side, at least they can have a protest without the scum showing up and turning it in to a riot.
36 EnginnerAbroad (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
@35 Its funny you mention thatm until recently (about 2 weeks ago) there was a distinct lack of goods on the shelves. Dont get me wrong we had the basics and didnt exacly starve but about 2 weeks we went shopping and realised there was suddently a much bigger variety and much more on the shelves. It was surreal.

Its not food, its electronics. Everything is far cheeaper juts across the border. However the Argentine government is now slapping a 50% import duty on goods brought in from neighbouring countries so it will stop very soon.
37 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:30 pm Report abuse
@31
Lol, i wish. Some friends and people i know lives there.
Anyway, i noticed the link to that website was broken, no idea what happened.

This sign is gold.
fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/402787_445853792123211_737105170_n.jpg
It says ''I didn't eat because i had to spend $6 to make this sign.''
38 yankeeboy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:34 pm Report abuse
Arrogance doesn't overcome their need for U$, YPF is doing a road show in LONDON to try to get some sucker on board to pay for their follies.

Bahahahahaha

What f'in losers
39 EnginnerAbroad (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:44 pm Report abuse
@38

I like they way they have chossen. they could of gone to another British Island much closer to home ;). Do you really think they are going to get either a British Investors whilst there owners spit their dummy out over the FI or another European investor after what thier owners did to REPSOL.
40 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:50 pm Report abuse
@34 Yes, she did say that and it looks as though Macri has seen an opportunity to Make the RIGHT comments;

“What happened yesterday filled me with pride”

“One hundred percent of Argentina's spirit” was out in the street yesterday, the city mayor underlined.

“What happened yesterday was rather overwhelming, a rebellious movement shining light on what we are really living,” Macri said.

Instead of the arrogant crass remarks from K's camp.

Though, is seems Anibal has backtracked a little. He is now saying the government is taking notice but he doesn't understand what they are protesting about. Um, cue another protest to make it a little clearer for the thick-shits in the government?
41 Tobers (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:50 pm Report abuse
@39, 39

I guess this means that they are officially desperate then.

Or perhaps they are masochists.

Very strange...
42 yankeeboy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
39. Sometimes it is very hard to figure out if it is the Narcissistic Personality Disorder ( that most RGS have) or just plain stupidity.
43 bushpilot (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
The current government might become less domineering after this. They might recognize they are pushing the limits.

But I think one outcome of these protests that is certain to happen:

There will be no more talk of reforming the constitution to re-elect CFK.

Do any of you think they will still try to change the constitution?
44 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 03:11 pm Report abuse
CFK Personality Cult

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIt1wWHDST8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
45 MaxAue (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 03:28 pm Report abuse
Apparently new protests are announced on October 1st.
Keep it up !
46 Artillero 601 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 03:38 pm Report abuse
Viva la Patria carajo !!!
47 Pugol-H (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
If it kills the re-re-election, then the struggle of succession should begin in earnest.

Any candidates?

Any chance of the Argy economy recovering in the meantime?

Does seem like a recipe for instability.

Whether this would translate as more or less focus on the “Malvinas” issue is really the question from Brit/Islander point of view.

@ 46 Artillero 601
Saludos Amigo.
48 Conqueror (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 03:52 pm Report abuse
@24 How? You want to die? WE can grant your wish.
49 mastershakejb (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
“political militancy”
YUP! congrats Argentina, you gettin yourself another military dictatorship!
50 atk357 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
The writing is on the wall! Revolutions in Argentina are like earthquakes in California, they will happen! May be the big one is coming....keep pushing and she'll crack!
51 Tobers (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
@47

Im not an expert but if the ridiculous protectionist trade barriers were taken down would that not provide an immediate stimulus for the economy?!

Pretty simple in theory but it would require a new 'government'.
52 Simon68 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
I think the media are underestimating the number of protesters, in our small town of about 10.000 people, almost a thousand congegated in the plaza to protest against insecurity, encroachment on personal freedoms, corruption and attack on the Constitution. This was probably repeated in most of the towns in Argentina.

This is a warning to Kretina and her troupe of performing sycophants!!!!!
53 KretinaK (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:21 pm Report abuse
Kretina OUTTTTTT!
54 Pugol-H (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
@47Pugol-H: Addendum

Any Argentinian opinions on this?
55 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:00 pm Report abuse
web.mail.comcast.net/service/home/~/247608_434054579983012_1893721078_n.jpg?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=86358&part=2
56 Condorito (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:03 pm Report abuse
Sr Cobranza is back:
It’s a Menem era song, but some things never change.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlYbw9WbHU&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9DqPjhbMTosCMU-061YFUU7

“tienen el poder y lo van a perder!”
57 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
Don't you guys read the news?

The action is in the Middle East.

All USA embassies on alert.

All rubbish british arses back to the Middle East to protect the USA and Argentina from possible attacks!
58 mastershakejb (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
WHERE ARE THE ARGTARD TROLLS? not commenting?! lol
See where hating USA/UK has gotten you? Maybe you should play nice and play the game like every other successful nation, instead of being belligerent idiots who don't wanna work.
59 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 05:51 pm Report abuse
@ 58

I am above you, can you read? lol
60 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:00 pm Report abuse
@58 They are learning new scripts.

It seems the government message is 'it wasn't much of a protest and we don't know what they are complaining about' or ' it was only rich people protesting'.
61 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
I think with another protest on October 1st and that will will garner more strength. As they say.....gathering clouds make a strong storm. Hanibal...I mean anibal fernandez is only going to infuriate the masses more by either being 1- so out of touch the his citizens....or 2- insulting them by saying he has no idea what they were protesting about.
I think Hanibal is a more fitting name. It seems everytime he opens his mouth,,,,,rank stupitdy flows out. But than again, it seems to be a prerequisite to be in ass lips kirchner's party.
NEWS FLASH: ASS LIPS KIRCHNERS SPOKESPERSON SAYS THEY FOLLOWING:
“The government is not preoccupied by the protest that those that attended it are more concerned about what is going on in Miami and that not many people from Palermo, Recoleta & Barrio Norte voted for her anyway ”
62 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
@ 58

The USA is asking the UK to be ready to send all the UK military to the Middle East to protect the USA and Argentina for possible attacks!
Can you read the international news? lol
63 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:11 pm Report abuse
Most of the protestors feel that ass lips kirchners is intentionally trying to infuriate the protestors so she call call martial law and start taking them out. What kind of sick leader would do that to there own citizens.......North Korea....Syria....China.....now argentina?
64 Artillero 601 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:14 pm Report abuse
@47

Saludos Hermano and keep fighting !!
65 Pugol-H (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:18 pm Report abuse
@62
No opinion about events in Argentina then!

@64 Artillero 601
Siempre Compadre, siempre.
66 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:21 pm Report abuse
@57 Sussie/2012/preparationH etc etc

Sussie!!!

Thought sussie was never coming back LOL LOL

How is Sussie's “Papi”?

A special gift, just for sussie:

m24digital.com/en/2012/09/06/controversial-video-of-a-rock-band-with-erotic-images-of-president-cristina-fernandez/
67 Tobers (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
The -government's- childish arrogance and bravado is astounding and insulting as usual and is only going to fan the flames. Theres another protest next month. It will be bigger for sure. And the next one bigger still. Theyre not going away. Inflation is hitting the poorest hardest as basic living costs keep increasing. Its jut a question of time before they join in. And then this bunch of clowns will really be fcuked.
68 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
The good people of Argentina must keep this up month after month until the mid terms.....then toss them, the ass lips kirchner supporters out into the del la Plata
69 TipsyThink (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:43 pm Report abuse
CFK wants rè-ré-rè-ré election ?
i dont gùess she wants it !

if thére are leadérs who wànt to beçome ádmin for lifè,theñ i càn sày thát this is only théir own çhóices.

í know many leaders whó wánťed to become admiň for ľife,
few examples thát:

J.F.Kennedy
S.Allende,
O.Palme,
P.Lumumba,
I.Gandhi,R.Gandhi
N.Ceauşescu

ahhhaaa yoù àsk me whàt abóut General Frañco / Salázar
leastwise their péople wérè very stùpid,nùmb,wimpy !!
70 ProRG_American (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
What right do any of you non Argentines have in suggesting that the President should leave? NONE. Elaine B, why are you so filled with pride? What have you done but wish the Argentines tragedies day after day. Mind your own business as well as everyone else. Jose Monterrey, stick to your town and hope that you don't get kidnapped tonight. Hold your horses all you “enlightened critcs” out there. What is this about “Kretina Out”, etc., etc., etc. There is a constitutional order of succession. Who would replace her,Boudeau? He is the only legal choice you know. All is well in Buenos Aires.....carry on Chris...you have 3 more years to go.

www.marketwatch.com/story/argentinas-ypf-chevron-sign-exploration-deal-2012-09-14..
71 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
WTF?
72 briton (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:48 pm Report abuse
The real argentine people speak,
and credit where credid is deserved,

in the meantime the argie indocrinought loonys
are still on here supporting their plastic goddess,

still,
losers have nothing better to do, lol.
73 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 06:55 pm Report abuse
#70 sussie we person has EVERY right to express free thought anywhere, anytime to anybody.....even ass lips kirchner
74 briton (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
the desperate, get more desperate by the day.

they know their numbers up, CFK goes, and her plastic indocrinated bloggers follow with her,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
a new leader, a new dawn, a new start...
and the falklands will still be out of their reach.lol.
75 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:02 pm Report abuse
@ 72 briton @ 73 Conqueror/Captain Poppy/Craig R./Zhivago

Don't you read the international news?
The action is in the Middle East, the USA needs the UK army to protect my USA and my Argentina from possible attacks!
Are you guys ready or you big wimps likes to keep hiding in Mercopress “news”?
76 briton (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
its not your USA,
and the big news is CFK will not get re-elected,
out with the old ways,
and in with the new ways.

a new dawn, and the falklands will be fotton and left alone,
and a new argentina will hopefully grow up.

and the mouldy bits will be buried with the dead bits .
77 ProRG_American (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
“The real argentine people speak,
and credit where credid is deserved,”

So who are the real Argentine people Briton? The ones who don't support Cristina? This article talks about thousand people. The are over 40 Milliion Argentines. The President will complete her 3 more years on a high note I predict. More Industry, more work, MORE OIL !
Just be careful what you hope for Briton. The UN Resolutions favoring Argentina on the Malvinas remain intact. You mught get a right wing conservative who will really put the heat on!
78 briton (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
The real people, are the people who are not anti like you,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
CFK will not get re-elected without changing the rules ,

you have no oil,

and the UN has no power anymore,
and just because we have a soft goverment,
we are still the best [why]

CFK has failed to remove us from the falklands or the south atlantic,
and the years have been wasted by her talk talk, insted of deaing with argentinas problems,
all she has done is talk,
we are agreed are we not.
mmmmmmm
79 yankeeboy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
77. I am guessing you didn't see the satellite images or the live broadcasts of the 10s of possibly 100s of thousands of Rgs protesting across the country last night? This is the beginning of the end for The DictaK regime, the writing is on the wall.

...3 more years on a high note I predict. More Industry, more work, MORE OIL ! You must be deaf, dumb, blind and probably the ONLY person other than CFK and her minions who are too narcissistic to see reality that thinks any of those item could come to fruition while she is in power. BTW a memorandum of understanding is not a contract just the beginning of a conversation. No deal is immanent i will believe it when I see a PR from Chevron not a dimwitted/desperate RG who has his job and his families life on the line. Another bullet train to Rosario perhaps?

You are not from the USA but an RG PRO K loser.
80 Brit Bob (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
BK - are all of the people on the streets protesting against your Queen deluded?
81 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
This is the difference between a society that is involved with the world. What a stark difference with putrid northern societies where there could be mass shootings every hour and people don't give a squat, or they can take you to war under false pretenses, and the prime minister remains free and unquestioned, or where they lead you an unelected dictatorship from a superstate organization to save some bankers, and people dont move a finger.

That is the difference between engagement and being utterly pathetically moronic, dull, and supine.
82 TipsyThink (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
78
would you want to comment on these articles

www.economist.com/node/21562885

www.economist.com/node/21562938
83 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
I can't see CFKC lasting the full term. Once her widow-woman-poor-me act doesn't work anymore she will invent a reason to step down.

This forum is for discussing the articles posted here.
84 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
@83

No, she will complete her term and then someone else will be elected, with no re-election. That is the way it must be.

How sad it is foreigners here worrying more about a foreign country, than about their own collapsing societies. You all deserve was is coming to you all, for being so lazy and not demanding your goverment's to change their ways.
85 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
What's this?? What's this??

But everyone in Argentina LOVES ol' Turkey neck!! This report HAS to lies!! Lies and lies I tell you!!

Everyone loves KFC don't they? That's all that BK rants about!! about how loved she is and about how all women in Agentina what to be just like her.......... I can't think for the life of me what went wrong........
86 axel arg (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
Like i always say, it's amazing how hate blinds people's minds, most us know that cristina doesn't have enough majority in both chambers in order to reform the constitution, however some ignorant people continue with that idea. On the other hand, i heard yesterday the arguments of the people who were protesting in plaza de mayo, many of them criticised the denounces of corruption cases that involve c. f. k's government, which is correct, however those people always criticise only the denounces that involve her goverment, and never protest to criticise the denounces of corruption cases that involve the conservative government from the buenos aires city, these pathetic omisions show that actually those people don't care in absolut about fighting against corruption, they are just this argument, in a very despisable and hipocrite way just to criticise a government that they don't like. On the other hand, many people only insulted c. f. k, and said that her gov. is a dictatorship, and expressed also that there is not any freedom of press, however neather this time, nor in all the rest of the oportunities that people protested against the government, were repressed, beside they were transmited by the chanels that are against the governmnet and those that support it, what kind of dictatorship and lack of freedom of press are these?, they could protest with total freedom, like in all the others oportunities, beside, there was not an incident. If the oponent politic parties know how to interpreted what happened yesterday, they will have to brake with the alliances that some of them have with some powerfull corporations, and will have to build an alternative of power, otherwise those people will have to continue cacerolenado, there is a lot more to say about all this question.
87 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@84 Let me help you, again, as I have explained this to you many time. It is part of my job to know what is going on in Argentina. And if anyone, for whatever reason, wants to discuss the articles posted here, that is exactly what this forum is for.

Not all Presidents reach the end of their term if they lose the confidence of the voters. If the people around her see her popularity waning they may well help her on her way out of the door. Politics is a dog-eat-dog world.
88 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:14 pm Report abuse
87 ElaineB

I think now might be a good time to remind everyone about the demise of Mrs Thatcher. Does everyone remember that?

The poll tax riots???

Out came the knives and before you could say “but it wasn't MY idea” Mrs Thatcher was suddenly an ex-tory leader.

KFC would do well to take this warning from history........never say never.
89 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
@87
How you change your job? “Politics is a dog-eat-dog world”
So far you don't have a solution except to take notes.
90 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
@88 I think they are a tad more brutal about it in SoAm - and Mrs T's demise from politics was not for the feint-hearted. Didn't Argentina go through five Presidents in two weeks only a decade ago? Maybe their full term of office was 2.8 days back then.
91 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
89 2012

?????????????????
92 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:24 pm Report abuse
LOL @ Commenter 70.

This is exactly what happens when you are heavy indoctrinated and past the point of no return.
93 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
@ 91
The argentine leader worth millons, what you have to show beside your rubbish bloody arse?
94 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
92 Sir Rodderick Bodkin

LOL, I've just read it, wow!! I can't believe that there is anyone left who still wants KFC to stay...... La campora anyone?
95 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
@94 LOL, I just read it too.....I usually skip over the bonkers posters. Take a little pleasure that every time you post you are pissing them off a bit more. : )
96 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:45 pm Report abuse
95 ElaineB

I am always amazed as to how many of the posters on this web-site are on weekend release........

I can't help but think that somewhere out there are LOTS of villages that are missing their idiots.
97 Mimosa (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
@93 2012
Yes, you are right. CFK is financially secure.
The problems is the UK team trying to show she is not the best....
The UK team should think twice instead making themselves look so passe!
Well, we all know the UK team earns a living making such comments! lol
98 ProRG_American (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:51 pm Report abuse
This tells it all, who will lead South America and Unasur in the future......and most of you were predicting it would not happen! HaHaHaHa!!!
“Brazil has goals to develop its hydrocarbon resources, but actions like this will threaten those goals,” Chevron spokesman Kurt Glaubitz told me.

Glaubitz is confident that Chevron can forge friendlier contract terms with Argentina and YPF. What’s more, the shale plays they would be looking to crack open carry far less risk (both geologic and operational) than does deepwater Brazil.

“We already know it’s one of the best shale gas reserves globally,” says Glaubitz. “Now the key is in managing the above-ground risk.” READ ON

www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2012/09/14/thumbing-nose-at-brazil-chevron-is-near-deal-with-argentinas-ypf/2/
www.smartmoney.com/news/on/?story=ON-20120914-000558&cid=1259
99 Doveoverdover (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
Would someone kindly let me know who I should contact to join the team of professional posters? I'm flexible and totally without
principle so either side will do.
100 Mimosa (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
@ 32 Troy Tempest

Oh! please stop acting like a child.
CFK worth millons....what you have to show ....your pay check ? lol
101 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
@99

Pretty bad the economy up there huh. I'll get back to you.
102 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
The whole world is watching argentina:

www.ibtimes.com/articles/384520/20120914/argentina-buenos-aires-fernandez-kirchner-protest-inflation.htm

Awesome pics here:
rt.com/news/argentina-protest-currency-reform-103/

Still watching.....
www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-14/argentine-protesters-bang-pots-to-protest-fernandez-s-failures.html

and more news:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/cristina-fernandez-argentina-protests_n_1884718.html

and now the strikes!!
laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=366636&CategoryId=14093
103 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
97 Mimosa

We KNOW KFC is “financially secure” and we know that she got “financially secure” for lying and cheating and stealing from the very people that she swore to protect!!!

“trying to show she is not the best....” We don't have to show that, she has done that herself, all YOU have to do is open your eyes and look, but it is amazing how many of you don't even want to do that.

You know, during the German invasion of Russia, one diplomat asked a resident of Moscow why they were fighting against the Germans, after all, as everyone knows, Stalin was a monster, deporting people, killing people at will. the woman replied “He is a monster, yes he is, but he is OUR monster”

I think that that sort of thinking is in Argentina...... KFC is your monster.
104 Marcos Alejandro (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:02 pm Report abuse
64 Artillero 601
Komo ezta Tejano? I thought that you moved to your beloved Palomar :-)
105 Mimosa (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:02 pm Report abuse
@102 Conqueror/Captain Poppy
And here in the USA all concerned about the Middle East attacks?
Another 9 years war anyone?
106 puerto argentino (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
@96
We can organize some dinner to get some pounds to Cameron!!!
107 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:07 pm Report abuse
106 puerto argentino

LOL... and we could donate £5 to KFC's buy-a-vote campain. but hey, why should I worry? least we will be able to VOTE him OUT of office right? good luck trying to do that with good ol' turkey neck!!!!
108 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
No one's concerned up here in Boston
I think I am going to start a website.........www.freeargentina.com
dedicated to supporting all the good Argentine people working to rid the sewage in the government starting with ass lips kirchner.
109 2012 (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
@108 Conqueror Captain Poppy
“No one's concerned up here in Boston”
How you dare to make such statement?
Didn't you see the USA Ambassador coffin arriving to the USA?
Didn't you see Obama and Hillary face expression of concern?
Why don't you volunteer to protect the USA embassies overseas if your are really “an american citizen”?
Your continue dislike of CFK proves you are a rubbish bloody english arse!
lol
110 puerto argentino (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
@107
We could donate five pounds to chubby's cameron for next election! Why not you take more care in their fucking domestic problems and pay your debt that it is bigger than Greece! Because so much concern of a Re-election of Cristina Re! Cris Go 2015!!
111 ElaineB (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
LOL Hilarious. Is this really La Campora bringing out their A game?

“You animal food trough water”, “I'll fart in your general direction”

I guess the heavyweights are in emergency meetings.
112 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:05 pm Report abuse
Elaine the A team left for Uruguay

nice video of the freedom march
www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/09/201291421514919689.html
113 malen (#) Sep 14th, 2012 - 11:58 pm Report abuse
Puppy 102 “thhe whole world is watching Arg” jajajajajajaj makes me laugh
Look, use your head DEMOCRACY, gives the possibility for people to protest pacifically, using pans and shouting so gov should try to listen what we say.
Instead West DEMOCRACIES, people doesnt protest against to terrible things your gov does to dominate others nations, they live “sleepy” to what its so terrilbe like invading colonizating and usurpating others countries.
And watch now how predictible and clear are the results, you arent guarantee of peace in the middle east or in africa, with violence you dont give peace to nobody. Only more violence. And I see that all middle east is up against you. Using violence too, I regret it from wherever it comes. But they are protesting, they have guts. This are the news, MP doesnt show because it is made with the view of the UK and westy countries. But what a problem you are having there, hope this wont escalates or increases.
114 Frank (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 12:02 am Report abuse
@1 looks like playing the sympathy 'poor fella me' card takes the money
115 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 12:03 am Report abuse
Dumb fuk I support those people

news.yahoo.com/critics-argentina-leader-wants-another-term-230007697.html
116 brit abroad (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 04:11 am Report abuse
On another note, Australia are playing Argentina rugby today!
117 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 07:20 am Report abuse
@75 stupido

The action is in Argentina...

rt.com/news/argentina-protest-currency-reform-103/

CFK will be gone
Maxi 'mo will be gone
La Campora will be gone

It will be like the violent 2001 overthrow

www.economist.com/node/18587317?zid=309&ah=80dcf288b8561b012f603b9fd9577f0e
118 LightThink (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 09:19 am Report abuse
78 --- briton

i say the reply !

Thats country can not seise your property

BECOUSE

your (all UK citizens)properties are belong to the Queen (head of Royalty)
in other words that owner of your property is the Head of UK Royalty.
119 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:08 am Report abuse
111 ElaineB

You get a gold star for mentioning the Python's!!!!

Now I'm going to be terribly British and correct you, the actual insult goes:-

“Go boil your bottoms you sons of a silly person, I don't want to talk to you no more you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction Arthur King, you and all you English Ker-niggets!!”

“Your father was an hamster and your mother smelt of elderberries now go away before I taunt you a second time”

.........(sigh)...........I really must get out more...............
120 ElaineB (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:27 am Report abuse
LOL! Classic sketch.

I loved King Arthur's confusion and asking if there was anyone else he could talk to.
121 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:08 am Report abuse
@117
I light a candle to pray and hope your words come true.
We all need to keep pushing with protests until she breaks.
122 Pugol-H (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:17 am Report abuse
Would any of the Argentinos care to comment on what is the significance/impact, if any, of these events in Argentina.

@119
The counting shall be three.

Swallows.
123 Pheel (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 01:12 pm Report abuse
122,

sorry, but unable to comment our claim for better Democracy in a self-proclaimed enemy forum.

As a “rebel chacarero” and present last night with my family at Plaza de Mayo protests, still consider all argentines, including those pro-K, as the brothers they are.

Regards,
124 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 02:45 pm Report abuse
A bigger one is in the works for Ostober. This one will make sure morons like annabelle fernandez knows EXACTLY what they are protesting about. I have never seen a government spokesperson insult there own citizens before such as Cabinet Chief juan manuel abal medina. I find it most interesting that he stated they are more interested in Miami than Argentina, yet he was ignorant to what they were complaining about! Eastern European could not keep people repressed and I am sure argentina cannot as well.
125 2012 (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 05:49 pm Report abuse
@ 124 Conqueror Captain Poppy Zhivago Craig R Simon68

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak rubbish bloody english men!
126 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
When I talked to some protesters I know,I founf it interesting that they actually do not like to do this. However, they feel it is their civic duty to sound off at the demise and destruction and isolation that ass lips kirchner is giving to the people of Argentina. I think the October protests will be undeniably loud and leave an everlasting ringing in the ears of the incompetent peronist party.
127 briton (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
82,
you should not always belive, unless you know it to be the truth.
128 toooldtodieyoung (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
123 Pheel

Good on you!! Taking a stand must be hard thing to do, like Captain Poppy at 126 has said. We are all behind you on this one!!
129 ChrisR (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
99 Doveoverdover

Being without principles can happen when you work in CT and get confused with which side you are on.

I should join the AG mob, but you will have to have your brain removed before you can really get into the part. :o)
130 Pirat-Hunter (#) Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
#70 well said.
#72 coming from a Brit the word looser is a complement.
m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=PCBOKkQh4Lg
#74 new leader ? Who? Democratically speaking impossible.
#76 and who do you think can replace CFK???a protest against the G20 in Toronto didn't warranty the end of the G20, I don't know where you get those weird ideas, the rules will be changed to allow for a democratic transion.
#78 when Argentina allows for their own fishing industry to grow British will go by themselves.
#79 the world is always protesting against WTO and IMF can you tell us how that is going???
#80 maybe this protester like president menem years better lol
#81 that kind of true can hurt people.
#83 the air can't be president do you have a better candidate in mind??
131 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 01:24 am Report abuse
It seems that the general consensus of the argentines is that if you protest against your president you are suppose to have a candidate to replace, otherwise ...shut up.
The people of argentina cannot voice their displeasure with the general policies that the government has taken?
They cannot gather to show the government they want change?
They cannot protest to tell the government they have no confidence in their actions?
They cannot protest to tell the government they do not want to be like veneuela?
They cannot protest to tell the government they are tired of the lies in statistics?
They largest protest yet to come will be in the polls in 2013.
132 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 03:42 am Report abuse
@100 Mimosa

How much does she pay YOU?

I bet you are paid in Pesos, with inflation at 26%. LOL

Never mind, you'll be out of a job very soon.
133 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
I really love all the images from Sept 13

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u8jIG4kDrPA
134 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
@133 Poppy

Well done, Capt.

And this is all over Argentina!

Sussie and BK (“Besotted with Kirchner”) can no longer claim that the people of Argentina all love CFK.

However, Nothing from the Trolls.

Hmmmm, they have all retreated again.

Getting new scripts??
135 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
And most important it is not just the so called “elite” 168,000 that will pay taxes on credit card purchases as the peronist say. This is more the average working class people.
Here in the USA the reports were saying they the people in Argentina refuse to be subjected to another term of her repressive policies
136 briton (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 06:22 pm Report abuse
she is on her way out,
and linging her nest on the way ...
137 British_Kirchnerist (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
#80 “BK - are all of the people on the streets protesting against your Queen deluded?”

Some of them are acting in their own rational self interest no doubt, but that self interest is in contradiction to the interests of the people of a whole who have no better friend in politics than the beautiful Cristina. Those (if any!) from the popular classes who have joined these protests are indeed deluded

#86 Nice to see you on here again axel, your sense of perspective is always refreshing. I remember you posted your email on here a while back but when I looked for it a while ago I couldn't find it. If you could post it again ever or let me know on which thread to look I might like to get in touch =)

I hope your wrong though that Congressional arithmetic rules out constitutional change; Cristina and the left should go into the midterm elections on an agressively reformist platform of updating, even refounding, the state and sweeping away the neoliberal holdovers of Menem's constitution. If this includes bringing in re-election, great; if not, I see no automatic need for a power struggle or a lame duck presidency as Cristina could just transfer her own support to her handpicked Cristinista candidate as Lula did with Dilma and Nestor did with her; I think Timmerman is the overall best bet for this role but Alicia and Kicillof are also strong contenders. And if the people feel the need for Cristina to be the leader AND the contitution hasn't changed, there are ways round that, like the resignations of 1973...
138 Zhivago (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:40 pm Report abuse
137 Argentine_Troll
Still fiddling, even while the fires have started!
139 briton (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
she is going,
get used to it.
140 British_Kirchnerist (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
#139 She's President, get used to it =)
141 briton (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
not our problem,
talk talk, will soon be walk walk,
get used to it .lol.
142 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
“as Cristina could just transfer her own support to her handpicked Cristinista candidate ”

“AND the contitution hasn't changed, there are ways round that”

Democracy in action !!

Rome is burning, in this case argentina. Ass lips kirchner needs her fiddle.
143 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 10:56 pm Report abuse
@137 BK
“Cristina could just transfer her own support to her handpicked Cristinista candidate as Lula did with Dilma and Nestor did with her; I think Timmerman is the overall best bet for this role”

“ And if the people feel the need for Cristina to be the leader AND the contitution hasn't changed, there are ways round that, like the resignations of 1973...”

So, what you are saying is, “we can find a way to subvert the Constitution, or the the intent of the law, to get what we want”!

Sounds like corruption to me. Make no mistake, “the people” who feel the need to keep CFK in power are different from “the people of Argentina”!

The rioters were NOT middle-class wealthy people, upset about holidaying abroad. The rioters were a broad cross-section of Argentine society, proletariat and educated professionals alike.

BK, you'll be the loyal patsy holding the mob at bay, at the front door, while CFK and Timerman run out the back with suitcases bulging with loot!

The real“ people ” of Argentina will move faster than they did in 2001.

BK's days are numbered...
144 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 11:11 pm Report abuse
BK is not even an argentine, not even a south american.........not even from this hemisphere. He is a Scot and I would think an embarrassment to the Scottish people.
He's a simple embarrassment to all working people across the globe. His oxygen could be better used.
145 scarfo (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 11:19 pm Report abuse
137

I think Timmerman is the overall best bet for this role

lol good one!
146 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 16th, 2012 - 11:59 pm Report abuse
@144 Poppy

“BK is not even an argentine, not even a south american.........not even from this hemisphere. He is a Scot”

Well, that makes sense.
I hope his 'hatred of the English', obsession, makes him feel slighted and angry every waking moment. What a life!
147 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:14 am Report abuse
While I freely admit neither am I, nor south american, but my wife is and her family sill lives in Argentina and I hope they change soon.
148 f0rgetit87 (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 01:09 am Report abuse
You are all jealous for not having a strong leader like Christina. Shut up and get over it!
149 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 01:25 am Report abuse
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL If I had a leader as incompetent as ass lips kirchner I'd be on the streets like the rest of the argentines. If she is so strong and believes the Falklands are argentina's, why are the still in Bristish control?
Anwser:
Because she is a wimp, a liar, incompetent and knows it is rightfully British territory. Tomorrow argentina will get censured becuase the kirchner's made argentina a deadbeat borrower. Brazil managed to come out from their shithole with help from IMF and are now the 5th largest GDP in the world.........why did argentina fail?
A real strong and rightous leader.........like hitler.
150 Pugol-H (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
@123 Pheel
Amigo, just wondered what you lot were thinking.

Didn’t expect anyone to commit Treason.

However if that is you view, I can respect it.
151 LEPRecon (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
@148 - forgetit87

I hope, for your sake, that CFK stays your leader forever because while she is Argentina will remain in the sh!t state it is, unable to borrow money from the international community, and unable to exploit your own natural resources.

However for decent Argentine citizens, they deserve a decent leader who actually knows what they're doing, and Argentina may become a successful country. This will lift people out of poverty and improve their standard of living.

But you don't want that do you or you may lose your only source of income, La , and actually have to work for a living.
152 slattzzz (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
@140 shes an oxygen thief .....get used to it
153 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
She steals money ....she wastes oxygen
154 f0rgetit87 (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
@151
People know where I am from and it's not Argentina asshole. I am fed up with nancy boys like you thinking they know it all. Your comments show how ignorant you are on this matter. She has the right idea she just needs to implement things better. Thats it.
155 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 17th, 2012 - 11:57 pm Report abuse
Her idea is to make everyone poor and dependent of government and only the party self sufficient. She went back to olivios to forge some new data for IMF.
156 LEPRecon (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:31 am Report abuse
@154 - forgetit87

I seem to have struck a nerve, don't I? Poor forgetit87, backing a loser President who is making her country a world LOSER too. Pretending to be from somewhere else other than Argentina, although I don't blame you.

I see that Argentina's credit rating has been reduced again. Hurrah for CFK's revolutionary economic policy - how to destroy an economy and bankrupt a country.
157 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:07 pm Report abuse
Ass lips kirchner worked hard at it, but she pulled it off.....JUNK STATUS.........She must be hold a celebration somewhere.
158 axel arg (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
BRITISH_KIRCHNERIST.
Nice to talk to you again. I agree with a reform of the constitution, because we must be sure that all the achievements that we could get along these years won't be recalled by any conservative government that probably roles argentina in the future, but i dont agree with a change that gives her the posibility of being re relected, anyway, she doesn't have enough majority in both chambers to reform the constitution, i must recognize that i was wrong whneni said that most people know about this reality.
My i mail adres is: investigationmalvinas@hotmail.com.ar
159 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 01:45 pm Report abuse
Great achievements

*On the verge of being outed in the G20
*Junk bond status
*International pariah
*decreasing democratic systems
*increasing autocracy/dictorialship
*Constant strikes
*deteriorating infrastructure
*30-40% real inflation
*dwindling reserves
*record number of complaints @ WTO
*Import restrictions emptying shelves and MEDICINES
*An internal war against the working class, educated and middle class
*over 30@ poverty rate
*Hinderance of personal liberty
*Mass amounts of corruption
*Increasing voilent crime

There is yet so much more to accomplish!!!
160 2012 (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 05:24 pm Report abuse
@ 159 Conqueror Captain Poppy
... He keeps saying that he likes to “pick” on the southamerican country ...because he is an english wimp. He claims he is from the USA, but that is not correct.
....The ingnores the Taliban spokeman have sent a message stating the attack was made where UK Prince Harry is stationed and more suicidal attackers are ready to give their lives. Is expected that British embassies overseas are next...What Conqueror/Captain Poppy are doing as “UK MALE citizens”?
NOTHING!
why?
Conqueror/Captain Poppy is a rubbish bloody british, he is a wimp!
161 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 06:14 pm Report abuse
I like being called the Conquering Captain. Sussie I live in Boston asswipe....pay Masaschusetts taxes.....drive on storrow drive, go to the Big E every year. I am a fanatical Patriots fan (played DE in school)......and spend my summer weekends sportfishing Block Island SOund. But if you wish to think I am British, thats fine with me. The British are pretty solid allies and people in general. You should learn from them.
I really give a as mush as a flea on a dogs hairy ass in what you blieve I am. I will say nothing more on this matter.
It's become apparent the you've allowed your age to surpass your IQ.
162 2012 (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
@161 Conqueror/Captian Poppy
Come on......
Why...Why....Why....you don't want to release your name?
Scare? yes ...
YOU are scare of releasing your name, address and phone number ....not because of the “crazy” people.....
YOU ARE SCARE OF RETALIATION FROM AN ARGENTINE CITIZEN....
THAT'S IS ...WHY....
YOU .... UK .....WIMP....PINK ARSE!
163 Pugol-H (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 06:57 pm Report abuse
@162 SussieUS
Have you not taken your medication again?

Have a swig of furniture polish that should help.
164 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
Boy sussie.......I must really be unnerving the cyber K taliban in such a way that they want my persoanl information.
I am happy that I unnerved you guys so much......lol
AND I SHALL NOT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hehehehehehehehehehe unnerving is it not.....to wonder?

You are desparate sussie.........clue......18 bravo mean anything to you?
165 Pugol-H (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:21 pm Report abuse
Furniture polish all round it seems!
166 Zhivago (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:36 pm Report abuse
162 2012 Schizophrenic Sussie
I thought you were American!!!
167 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:47 pm Report abuse
sussie pretends to live in the USA......she desserted the fatherland
168 axel arg (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
CAPTAIN POPPY.
It was so obvious that you were going to say about all the distortions, lies or half truths that are published about arg. in the world press. This is evident that you are just one more usefull ignorant of the conservative press. At the same time that you say that arg. is an international pariah, a few days ago it was publised an agreement between arg. and rusia, in order to explore over the arg. territory with ypf, beside, who told you that we are on the verge of being out from the g.20, let me tell you that depsite repsol's lobby, it couldn't impide the fact that there are more companies which are interested in exploring in argentina, like chevron and others, i don't know what kind of international pariah is that. On the other hand, at the same time that you say about a soposed decreasing democracy, or express that this government is authoritarian, this is evident that you don't realise about how rediculous and ignorant you are, let me tell you that a few days ago, there were huge marchs against c. f. k's gov. in different places of arg., and people weren't repress neather this time, nor in all the rest of the oportunities that people protested against the gov., in fact, the gov. doesn't repress the social protest, it represses only if there is violence between the protestors, beside, the protests were transmitted openly not only by the chanels that are against the gov., but by the chanels that support it too, i don't know what kind of dictatorship or authoritarian gov. is it. Anyway, i dont' deny that c. f. k's gov. has contradictions and negative aspects, like the denounces of corruption cases, but only an ignorant like you, can make such a mendacious and too partial analysis about argentina. There is a lot more to say about argentina's situation.
169 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
I am far from unaware of what is transpiring in argentina. Chevron was in argentins for over twenty years and worked with YPF in the past. Nothing was contracted to do anything beyond what Chevrom was already doing. Yet they signing a memorandom to humor ass lips. Check out the last three 10qQs. Russia agreed to import gas for them....more imports....no exploration. Russia is ready to rape Argentina faster then a bolshevic.
You guys in SA toss the word “democracy” so often .....democratic union.....democratic prcocesses.....democratic protests, I think you almost belive you really have it!
I am far from a conservation and loath a socialist. If you do not like what I write........bow to your own ignorance and do not read it. It obvious that anyone that writes negative things against Argentina is a conserevative and enemy of the state. Argentina will soon own the medi anyway and nothing negative will be published internally. The last area for ass lips to conquer with be the internet. I am sure that China will show them how to achieve this.
170 2012 (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
@ Conqueror/Captain Poppy
Zhivago/Chinese wanna be in The Economist

Are you the guys claiming “winning” the Port-A-John“ contests?
Yes, they all said the UK Team is ”winning” the biggest collection of crap...
and remember....Conqueror/Captain Poppy won't release their names, location or phone number!
Why?
They are english wimps!
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeee!
171 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
Tell me?
1-Why do you want my name and such?
2-You say you like in the USA, why did you abandon your country in dire times?
3-Why in the universe do you think I am British? Are RG's that paranoid after the 83 ass kicking the the UK they think every one critical of argentina is a Brit?
4-Prove I am British and the info is yours.
172 2012 (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 04:43 pm Report abuse
@171
Conqueror/Captain Poppy= BIG WIMP
Why don't you tell us who are you?
I gave my name, location and telephone number to prove I am not afraid of no one, here in the USA or in Argentina.
I did not abandon my Argentina or my USA. Legally, I reside in each country when I feel like it.
My country Argentina is anti-british and will remain anti-british.
I repeat, former argentine president Carlos Menen did a mistake to resume diplomatic relations with the UK.
Millons of argentinians like myself don't give a shit about the Islas Malditas!
While you insists you are an “USA citizen” You don't dare how to stop the Taliban from further attacks against the USA.
You keep protecting your testicles and won't dare to fight against the Taliban because YOU ARE A WIMP!
173 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
Apparently when shit hits the fan you ran from argentina. And in case you did not kow idiot.....there is a 37 year old age limit on the armed forces in the USA. And if you are prior service, can be increased to but the years service. SO do be even more stupid by talking about serving....I did my 18 bravo years....Here I am
Patrick Deval
280 RM
Boston, Mass
02133
617-725-4005

I pawk my caw in havawd yawd

Feel better sussue.......do
174 Artillero 601 (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:05 pm Report abuse
@173

Hee Haw !!

what was your MOS bro?
175 Pugol-H (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:45 pm Report abuse
@186 axel arg
There were large demonstrations with little or no trouble, this is true.

However this begs the question as to why they are demonstrating in the first place.

Although from what you say, there is probably not a simple answer to that.

@sussie US
If as you say, you live in the US, you do realize that makes you the target of Taliban attacks.

Better pray someone is defending you and doing a good job, or you might be the one who ends up splattered across a street somewhere by a car bomb.

@173 Captain Poppy
Sorry, what’s “18 bravo years” mean?
176 Artillero 601 (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:57 pm Report abuse
@175

P,
you can have all the “cacerolazos” in the planet, until the “opposition” is organized , you will have this bitch for a long time in power. Just a thought
177 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
What's 18 bravo mean?.......let's just say it's outdoors work. Fresh air....independant kind of stuff.
178 2012 (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:42 pm Report abuse
@173 Conqueror/Captain Poppy
That name and address belong to a black governor.
signed:
Sofia Loren
179 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:19 pm Report abuse
Ah dammit. ........my Governor of Massachusetts......how silly of me!
Why do you want my information?
Ok really its:
Scott Brown
15 Sudbury Street
Boston, Massachusetts
02203
617-565-3170

ok no there satisfied?
180 Zhivago (#) Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:59 pm Report abuse
179
Careful Poppy, if you give her your real address she might show up at your door with a lawnmower, weedwhacker and her six kids to help her!!!!
181 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:30 am Report abuse
let them try lol
182 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 08:27 am Report abuse
@180
Easy to recognise though, the only Gardner in a miniskirt with hairy legs

LOL LOL LOL
183 lsolde (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 10:01 am Report abuse
Yes do be careful, Captain Poppy.
Soozy is a lunatic & l wouldn't put it past the stupid airhead to show up, armed, at your place.
184 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 10:10 am Report abuse
I seriously do not think she will be reaching my place.
185 Zhivago (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 11:38 am Report abuse
178 Schizophrenic Sussie
Next time, cut the Prozac in half!
186 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:05 pm Report abuse
I hope she hurries, my lawn needs preping before winter sets in.
187 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 03:11 pm Report abuse
@186 poppy

He is obviously has an important position in CFK's government. “Coffee-boy” or something, at the Pink Brothel, in BA.

Not likely he'll get a chance to make it up to Boston.

If he does, I'm sure you could have him added to Homeland Security's “no-fly” list.
188 2012 (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 03:27 pm Report abuse
@ 183 Isolde Ysenserely Skare = Miedosa y asquerosa, still is looking for her 2 children chopped heads in the Islas Malditas. Her “vagina neck” needs the courtesy stiches, that's why she touch her toes for the brits. Her “vagina neck” is very large for the brits small penis! But, she still demands be known as “mrs”...She is nothing more than a whore!
Hey, Isolde:
I have insulted the UK royals and I will continue insulting them.
As you can see nothing YOU can do except to read my insults.
@ 185 Zhivago “Chinese” = The Economist “Argentina cooking books” stated residing in Tierra del Fuego jejeje...
@186 Conqueror/Captain Poppy (ex-Scott Brown?)
He is using Senator Scott Brown name, address and phone obtained from the internet.
As I previously said, Conqueror/Captain Poppy is a Wimp.
Die bastard, the sooner, the better!
189 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
Sussie you make my day. Scott is my Senator....and a good one might I add.......lol. Don't worry sussue.

I wonder why the people are revolting?

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-18/imf-to-put-argentina-on-path-toward-censure-over-economic-data.html

OR

www.nasdaq.com/article/argentina-august-economic-activity-down-05-on-year--ojf-think-tank-20120918-01240

OR

www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-18/argentina-s-dollar-bonds-tumble-after-imf-threatens-censure

OR

www.nasdaq.com/article/survey-argentinas-august-industrial-output-seen-flat-20120919-01342

OR

blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2012/09/13/argentina-child-benefit-hike-underscores-inflation-woes/#axzz271bwfiSV

OR

blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2012/09/18/argentina-double-vision/#axzz271bwfiSV

OR

in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/18/argentina-biodiesel-idINL1E8KIC5320120918

AND lets not forget

www.iol.co.za/business/markets/commodities/soy-slips-due-to-economic-worries-1.1387628

It capped crude rises from 70 a barrel, a deal may happen.....no rise in oil price in RGland, no deal with Chevron

mninews.deutsche-boerse.com/index.php/latamenergy-argentinas-ypf-faces-financial-challenges?q=content/latamenergy-argentinas-ypf-faces-financial-challenges

Just way too many things to read about the one person country destroyer called ass lip kirchner
190 2012 (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
@ Conqueror/Captain Poppy
and here in the USA the 15 trillon debt might reach 20 millons debt within the next 4 years....
What Conqueror/Capatain Poppy can do as he claims be ”usa citizen?
Nothing.
why?
He does not know how.
Can he stop the Taliban from further USA embassy attacks?
No.
Why?
He is a british wimp!
191 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 05:20 pm Report abuse
@188 sussie 2012

“@ 183 Isolde Ysenserely Skare = Miedosa y asquerosa, still is looking for her 2 children chopped heads in the Islas Malditas. Her “vagina neck” needs the courtesy stiches, that's why she touch her toes for the brits. Her “vagina neck” is very large for the brits small penis! But, she still demands be known as “mrs”...She is nothing more than a whore!”

Mercopress is reviewing your account
192 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 05:49 pm Report abuse
See Troy she's an absolute lunatic. SHe talks about totally unrelated things.......she will have to get a new account now......maybe 2013 lol
193 axel arg (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
CAPTAIN POPPY.
I don't think that you are an enemy just because you have a negative view about arg., calling enemy to somebody who has a negative opinion about arg. or the gov., is actually a stupid distortion that is expressed all the time by the conservative and powerfull press from here, which has a huge push of power with c. f. k.'s government, i only believe that you are very missinformed, and buy so easily the too partial informations, the lies, or the distortions that are publised in the media, i already explained all my arguments in my message 168. On the other hand, if you think that soon there will be only chanels that support te government, this is evident that you don't know anything about the broadcast law that was approved three years ago, which still couldn't be applied totally for absolutly all the mediatic corporations, because of the powerfull lobby and the shamefull legal protection that the most powerull corporation of this country could get, (clarin) that's shows actually who is the owner of the power in this country.
194 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
I havea no issue nor hatred of Argentina. It is the people whom are running her into ashes that I take exception to and only then becausae my wife's family still lives there. Once they are all in the USA........my concerns for Argentina evaporatae.
195 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
Poppy,
Is it Troll shift change at the Ponk Brothel, or has Sussie been driven away? :-)

He's gone anyway.

BRITS WIN AGAIN !!!!
196 lsolde (#) Sep 20th, 2012 - 10:05 pm Report abuse
@188Soozy,
Your insults are as ineffectual as you are, loser.
Don't forget your morning dose of brake fluid.
lts good for your complexion, you know.
197 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 12:00 am Report abuse
Could he be gone?

Hope he got banned after I showed The Moderator the post @188,
several other examples of his perverted hate-mongering.
198 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 01:05 am Report abuse
I think 2012 needs more electro shock therapy. 2012 sussie says the most idiotic statements. I really am amazed at how they refuse to see or admit the failures of the cfk administration. I can only assume that they support her because they themselves failed in life and do not work to support themselves and seek handouts a government that considers 6 pesos a day more than enough to feed a person.
With barely a trade surplus due to farm exports, what will they do when the impact of floods take effect?

community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-09/miners-sinking-most-latin-american-markets-argentina-seen-running-currentaccount-surplus-in-q2.aspx?storyid=175181
199 axel arg (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
CAPTAIN POPPY.
Don't worry, nothing bad will happen, there are always protests against different governments, this is a free nation. In 2008 the protests against c. f. k's government, during the conflict with the oligarch rural landowners, were much worse than these, however she could boost her government like the great leader that she is.
200 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
@199 AA

“however she could boost her government like the great leader that she is.”

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!
201 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
I am not worried. Thpugh when I was in Buenos Aires in January of 2011 I remember protests there, they blocked streets, closed businesses and distrupted tthe entire area. The problem with south american style protests is you seem to be allowed to distrupt and infringe other people's right to freedoms.
202 2012 (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 04:44 pm
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203 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 21st, 2012 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
I think you spoke too soon Troy

“The government’s policies have halted growth because they led to lack of confidence and of investments,” said Walter Molano, head of sovereign research for emerging markets at BCP Securities in Greenwich, Connecticut, an investment bank that focuses on developing nations. “Argentina could have easily continued growing 7 or 8 percent for years

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-21/argentine-growth-slumps-as-fernandez-tightens-controls.html
204 Troy Tempest (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 12:25 am Report abuse
@203 Poppy

Disappointingly, NOT banned :-(

A non-human. Not worthy of mention, really.

No substance to his posts, nothing relevant to any other posts.

Best ignored, I think. LOL
205 axel arg (#) Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:54 pm Report abuse
CAPTAIN POPPY.
The meaning of the so called freedo, involves many others issues and its very complicated and long in order to explain them here, the point is that the government doesn't repress the social protest, it only represses if there is violence between the protestors.
206 Captain Poppy (#) Sep 23rd, 2012 - 02:06 am Report abuse
argentine freedom of the press

news.yahoo.com/argentina-gives-opposition-media-dec-7-deadline-224511979.html

Reuters view of the protests

news.yahoo.com/argentina-gives-opposition-media-dec-7-deadline-224511979.html

And so it goes, she kills another market

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-21/argentina-biofuel-price-won-t-restore-producers-profits.html

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