Argentine government says protestors are more interested about what happens in Miami
The Argentine government reacted strongly to Thursday’s massive demonstrations across the country and challenged them to organize in a political party and run for election. However the mayor of the city of Buenos Aires said the protests filled him with “pride” and called on the people to keep confronting the government.
Protestors marched against attempts to amend the constitution so that President Cristina Fernandez can bid for a third consecutive mandate in 2015, and also demanded more freedom and more security against rampant violent crime.
Cabinet Chief Juan Manuel Abal Medina said that those who marched on Thursday to (Buenos Aires) Plaza de Mayo square and the main squares of the country “are more concerned about what happens in Miami than in San Juan,” referring to Argentina and where Cristina Fernandez was on Thursday opening a textile factory.
“The social sector that was protesting is pretty homogeneous if you looked at their faces and appearances” added Abal Median who stated that the thousands of demonstrators at the pot-banging protest “have the right to set a political party, run for the election and win,” because “that’s what democracy is about.”
Abal Medina said that “it wasn’t clear what they were claiming” although he highlighted that “there was certain anger towards making the economy more transparent.” According to the cabinet chief, those protesters “seemed to like the unregistered jobs and economy”. He was referring to the “dollar clamp” and the 15% tax on all operations abroad with credit and debit cards, as a way of limiting travelling.
The Cabinet Chief assured that “these people never voted for Cristina or for something alike, and won’t do it” and that “in some way, they express Argentina’s diversity, democracy and the full exercise of freedoms”.
During the interview, Abal Median stated that “some demands” seen at the march “were aggressive and worrying” and that “they obviously have nothing to do with this government’s policies”.
Regarding the amount of people that participated of the march in the capital Buenos Aires, he said that “the President did not receive many votes from those neighbourhoods were the concentration was bigger, as in Recoleta”, which is one of the highest income districts of the city.
Abal Median also argued that the massive turnout “wasn’t spontaneous because it was organized a few weeks ago, there were politicians involved as Patricia Bullrich and Eduardo Amadeo” he pointed out.
Earlier in the day and former cabinet chief, Senator Aníbal Fernández admitted that Thursday’s mass protests were “important” and that the government “takes note of every protest” that takes place in the country.
“As far as I’m concerned, the government takes note of every one of the protests, be them with large amounts of people or 25 people that stood in the door of a government building” Fernández said.
The senator interviewed by a radio underlined that “people have the right to protest” although insisting that it is not clear “what they were actually trying to put across.”
“There was a big protest. As tends to occur with such an event, if there is a protest, the people have something to say. It is a freedom that we discuss between us and that we defend for all, so that we can all enjoy it,” the lawmaker said.
But the Mayor of Buenos Aires City Mauricio Macri and an opponent of the ruling coalition said that the mass anti-government protest that took place across the country made him feel “proud” and that he hoped the message of the people would reach President Cristina Fernandez.
“What happened yesterday filled me with pride, it makes way for this to be discussed and I hope that the message reaches the President,” Macri said today. “One hundred percent of Argentina's spirit” was out in the street yesterday, the city mayor underlined.
In addition, Macri stated that the Kirchnerite administration should take note of the demands expressed in the numerous protests across the main cities in the country, and prompted protestors to “keep confronting” the government in the same way.
“What happened yesterday was rather overwhelming, a rebellious movement shining light on what we are really living,” Macri said.
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WOW!!! it would appear that KFC's party has it's finger firmly on the populations pulse.................. Clowns!!
Christ, and us brits thought our government was out of touch with the UK population, but argentina's government take the piss for sure lol.
Now the public are feeling the impact of her gross mismanagement of the economy. They feel the inflation in their own weekly struggle to feed their families. They see evidence of more violent crime. They can see that their freedom is being eroded.
Apathy is the reason corrupt governments can abuse their position of power, but this government has pushed too far. Acting arrogant is only going to inflame the public even more.
How does he know where they came from? They make an awful lot of assumptions these Kirchneristas.
What else you can expect from an arrogant government?. Comments like these will only infuriate people even more.
Way to go idiots.
C.C. Juan Manuel Abel Medina must be sick, no mention of The Falkland Islands !
They're going to have to come up with something else
I must admit my schadenfreud-o-meter is off the scale regarding CFK. I do feel sorry for the decent Argentines out there (ie not the rabid Malvinistas - what goes round comes around for them, I'm afraid)
Its a bit complicated, but he's definitely more competent person than the K's and all her bunch of arrogant cronies. I think he could make the difference in the next election if the opposition get it together.
However, i have my doubts about Macri. Believe me, it its impossible to find have an honest politician. What other choice do we have? Carrio, Moyano, Binner? Hell no.
Cristina already lost it and she's out of control.
Lucky you are in a generous country like Argentina...
CFK return the money your family stole from ARgentina in the 00's. You should be in jail since long time ago.
-----Lucky you are in a generous country like Argentina...----
Cristina, Boudou et al are thinking the same thing.
““There are a series of measures affecting individual liberties, from the liberty of not being able to leave your house without knowing if you will be alive at the end of the day, to the liberty of deciding that to do with your savings and how much money you will spend if you travel,” she added.”
I think the first sentence of the second paragraph says it all.
If many people think like this they have nothing to lose by forcibly overturning TMBOA and her gang of incompetent crooks if only to remove the perceived threat to their very existence.
“I think that many of those who voted for the President were there in Plaza de Mayo and this is related to the fact that she did not mention these kind of measures during her electoral campaign last year.”
Exactly. She has no mandate from the masses to do what she is doing now.
CFKC seems to forget that many people remember losing everything just 10 years ago. They are not going to sit back and let that happen again.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:13 am
Frank, I agree with Sir Rod on this, he is of course much more competent than the Kirchnerist rabble, well truthfully Mickey Mouse and his friends would more competent than them!!!
The problem is that he is not well looked on outside Bs. As. City. If he were to make a coalition with the FAP and the UCR maybe something could come of it, but, and it is a big BUT, these groupings don't last because there is less agreement than disagreement between the ideologies.
This is the great political problem that peronism has brought to Argentina, it has basically destroyed the political landscape, leaving only lots of small power centres that attract and then repel each other.
It is quite probable that the protests will become more vociferous, and unfortunately more violent, and that they will end in the demise of the Kirchnerist plague, but I'm afraid that the opposition is so atomized that whatever appears as a “government” will not last!!!!!
Sep 15th, 2012 - 04:04 pm
Remember, Captain, Kretina is NOT a politician she is a power grabber. She was meant to be interim president for Nestor the Fester. When she killed the bugger she became the “eternal” Kretina.
So her political “stupidity” is quite understandable. She f*cks off to Santa Cruz without a word and leaves Abal Medina to lie to everybody. Typical Kretina reaction to bad news!!!!
I cannot imagine that insulting them will back them down at this point.
I don't think there is anyone on the horizon that can deal with all of that and the inevitable draconian measures that need to be taken with their Federal Budget.
I think this is going to take at least a generation to work out and maybe more.
Bolivia is going to look like a paradise to them shortly.
Theres no way in a million years CFK is going to back down on these protectionist measures because that is the essence of KIrchnerismo
They are in a huge mess and CFK is too stupid to figure out how to get out of it.
i.imgur.com/DdDJc.jpg
No one in the pro peronist camps want to admit or believe the size of the protests. They keep ranting it is the rich elitists in Recoleta. The government really hates it's own people from Buenos Aires city.
Are you on drugs? the constitution is the foundation of democracy. It is something that NO party can re-write according to what they agree / dis-agree with. You abide by the constitution or you are not in power, simple as.
You are exactly what is wrong with Argentina, too many sheep, too many people brainwashed.
Simon 68 is about the only clear thinker in Argentina on this site, you would do well to listen to what he's got to say. Now hush, the adults are talking.
32
not through revolution followed by anarchy as this movement seem to aim for.
wtf you talking about? they were banging pots and pans lol
Their country, their problem,
And only they can solve it,
Is this not true.
In short: Inflation, no third term for the president against the constitution, high crime rate, import restrictions on life saving medicine, unavailabilty of foreign currency - obviously, Abal Median thinks that if he closes his eyes, the real world isn't there any longer.
I was sent these links from a friend, who told that cars all over microcentro (downtown) also honked their horns.
Cacerolazo en Mendoza capital 14 de septiembre 2012 www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8RmZ9KlI8
Masiva protesta en Mendoza contra el Gobierno nacional: www.losandes.com.ar/notas/2012/9/14/masiva-protesta-mendoza-contra-gobierno-nacional-667069.asp
Sir Rodd/Simon68/Zhivago/CraigR/
Conqueror/Captain Poppy = same crap bloody english wimps!
Your real name is ALEX VARGAS, you are on several forums.
On your FB page you have admitted to being a petty thief and vandal.
You are a troll and general malcontent, though you live amidst plenty, (likely at your parents home) in CANADA.
You do NOT live in Argentina.
Mind you in my country the party that plays the 'free beer' card the day before the election always boosts its chances.
“Ken Ridge” gave me that info.
I did some google searches for AV and found him on one or two forums. Same PH style and derision, along with pictures. In his 20's with wispy chin hairs and silly retro-60's straw hat (currently somewhat fashionable).
It was late at night, can't remember the site - likely if I wanted to waste the time, I could find them again.
As for FB, there is only one Toronto-area AV that I could find, a musician, but appears to be moderately successful and travels to the UK a lot. Couldn't be our guy LOL
He may have taken down his FB after it was mentioned on here.
However, looking at PH/AV's posts, he is definitely in Ontario, Canada. Likely outside of Toronto. Scarborough perhaps.
He will turn up - he's too vain to keep his yapper shut.
“not through revolution followed by anarchy as this movement seem to aim for.”
Let us hear your version of how Argentina became independent from Spain.
As far as I am informed, it happened through a revolution.
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The only way I see for Argentina to become a real democracy and get rid of its corrupt politicians, is that all (at least most of the) ordinary people join the political party of their choice, oust rotten candidates, select better ones and keep them on a tight leash, meaning throw them out if they misbehave.
www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/realestate/argentines-turn-cash-into-condos-in-miami.html?_r=0
Multi-àge république indèpendante du Quèbec. !
Hmmmm, they have all retreated again.
Getting new scripts??
lanacion google tranlate
MENDOZA. - Fifty-three homicides and 20,000 robberies reported. More to a city like Mendoza, where traders choose to serve behind bars and where neighbors never tire of asking more police.
Getting new fake identities, more likely.
And unlike your cities, it doesn't smell like homeless drunk piss.
Or La Boca with the black Riachuelo river mmm love to smell toxicity in the morning! www.desdemonadespair.net/2011/05/slow-clean-up-for-argentinas-worst.html Isn't BA pretty!
If you want to see it give me your address and I'll send you $50 I know you don't make enough to get yourself to B and back. Oh wait CFK stopped all PayPal transactions too...oh sorry.
Go take a look at La Boca or Tigre...thy're is filthy, smelly, black and TOXIC!! People have been dying for YEARS because of the water and yet it goes on and on. BTW do you think the cancers meds the people need because of those rivers are caught in Customs? Probably.
Look at how clean and pristin the USA has always been! HAHAHAHAH
We will learn when we want to, not when you want to. When will you learn not to blow your brains outs? We did 30 years ago. I'd say you are a bit behind huh.
Nevertheless I voted for President Christina F K during the last re election , I felt empathy when her husband passed away . I truly thought she was going to make a difference, if I give her my vote of confidence. But I regret my decision today. I’ve heard comments in Newspapers and on the News, and even on this site, that massive protest was done by the middle class because they are worried about not having the dollar bills and vacation they desire , but its not so, am not rich, I am a working class like the majority in the march were, and all we want is to be heard, and not be ignored like this President has done since her re election.
Plus La Boca and Tigre are billed as TOURIST DESTINATIONS!! Good Grief! I guess it is stupidity....
Thank you for that honest and revealing post.
CFK does not want to listen, but hopefully the rest of the world hears the truth.
I wish the best for the people of Argentina and I hope you get some responsible government that will make your country great, and a prosperous part of the global community.
Wishing you well in the October protests.
CFK, La Campora, and their theiving cronies have to go.
Good Luck
www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v6/newsworld.php?id=694627
#35, #36, #37 USA changed the constitution of both Afghanistan and Iraq for democracy to take place, according to the world pessimist hysteria Argentina needs to come back to democracy, and what better way then the one most commonly used by democratic states.
#38 try banging pots and pans on the streets in Canada without a permit and you will end up in jail. The one on drugs is you.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/27/g20-rioters-toronto-protests
#40 I am sure you are hoping for An Argentine economy with hyperinflation as it was before the K's took power.
#41 I love your good sense of sarcasm. Keep it up.
#42 you can tell them apart by the bias stand on international affairs.
#43 don't wonder anymore CFK has to do nothing but keep doing what she is doing. As there is no alternative candidate to replace her, the re-election campaign is to allow for her to run the next election again and not to remain there as president.
#44 so in your opinion Menem did a lot better for the educated and the working class.
#49 correct and CFK is that political leaders Argentina voted for.
thanks for your feedback, I hope so too.
Are the any protestings in Miami which we cant hear from media?
what can be ?...........what can be ?
propabably the student protestors from the reason why every single years,millions of young adults head off to college and universities all over USA full of hopes and dreams,but what most of those fresh faced youngsters do not realize is that by taking on “” student loans“” debts they are signing up for a life of debt slavery.Student Loans debt bubble clutttered up the financial lives of tens of millions of young college graduates.
“53 homicides in a city of 1.2 milion? Where 90% of those are crimes of passion or crime on crime?”
(53 is 01 january through 31 July 2012, seven months)
845 000 habitantes in Gran Mendoza (censo 2010) = SmallTown, not BigCity.
Crimes of passion or crime on crime are the most common causes everywhere.
53 / 8.45 / 7 * 12 = 10.75 of 100 000 or
more than 2.5 times US (4.2 of 100 000)
more than three times the Argentine average (3.4 of 100 000)
almost 9 times UK (1.2 of 100 000)
almost 12 times Danmark (0.9 of 100 000)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate
Maybe fatsimo the Fat Fucking kirchner choked on a few Big Macs and they have an interim leader.
Perhaps you are one of the real argentines, that are waking up to her lies,
And the crap from her supporters like [pirate hunter] above, and a few others who are so anti brit, that they forget, that their interest should be Argentina,
Your country first,
And forget about being anti or the Falklands,
And make Argentina great and respected again.
Still,
We bet pirate hunter is getting very nervous .
The waters very cold.
I don't think many of us believed it was the rich and upper middle class out protesting and complaining about not being able to access dollars to buy homes in Miami. Your President would love that to be true as she rants against anyone rich, conveniently forgetting how rich she is since the Kirchners took power.
CFK(C) is arrogant and believes she is indispensable, a foolish mistake to make by anyone in power. I hope she listens to the people she is serving.
We are not puppets that she can move about whenever she pleases. We are part of this Country, and we are paying her for a service with our taxes, and it’s her duty as the Argentina President, to listen to each opinion whether negative or positive, and to govern all the sectors, whether they voted for her or not. However, she is not our enemy ,although she should be setting an example as the head of our Nation, and meditates on what the Massive march and claims are trying to tell her.
In conclusion ,her pride is blinding her. However, I read a comment on this site saying politicians were behind this march. Well I don’t need any corrupt politician to manipulate me like a puppet. However , I am aware of what’s wrong and right. In conclusion I know when I can take no more.
“the pessimist hysteria from outsiders and minority groups”
You forgot “foreign agents”, “false flag officers”, “instigators of riots” and similar despotic language about dissatisfied citizens.
Like my rich friends who spend 2 or 3 hard earned pesos a week in a locutorio in Las Heras, Mendoza to send me an email about how things are in Argentina?
Rich people who live three generations in 5 rooms to make ends meet.
You f-fling moron, those 53 homicides are in ALL the province, the province has 1.7 million, and you are wrong on your city stats... some areas around greater Mendoza are not counted in the population, but tend to be included for social statistics.
The fact you say it's a “small town” proves how f-ing out of your mind your hatred and bigotry leads to to be. Mendoza would be one of the main cities in Canada you twarp.
So why don't you perform honest arithmetic? (calculus to you), and divided that murder rate into the correct provincial population? Ah, you idiot, gotcha.
If you had read my postings, you would have known that I lived three years in Mendoza and only left last April.
AFAIK there are no big cities in Canada, the largest town is Toronto with 5.5 million.
Do you live in La Gloria? Is that why you are so bitter?
Gran Mendoza componentes = municipalities which make up Greater Mendoza:
Guaymallén: [1]. 223.365
Godoy Cruz: [2]. 182.563
Las Heras: [3].. 169.248
Capital: ....... 114.822
Maipú: [4]....... 89.433
Luján de Cuyo:[5] 73.058
Total: ......... 852.489
[1] Guaymallén, Dorrego, Las Cañas, San José, Pedro Molina, Bermejo, El Sauce, Buena Nueva, Nueva Ciudad, General Belgrano, Jesús Nazareno, San Fransisco del Monte, Capilla del Rosario, Villa Nueva.
[2] Godoy Cruz, Presidente Sarmiento, San Fransisco del Monte, Las Tortugas, Gobernador Benegas.
[3] Las Heras, Panquehua, El Zapallar, El Plumerillo, La Cienaguita, El Resguardo, Capdeville, El Challao. Desde el censo 1991 abarca también Alto del Algarrobal.
[4] Maipú, General Gutiérrez, Luzuriaga, Coquimbito.
[5] Luján de Cuyo, La Puntilla, Carrodilla, Mayor Drummond, Chacras de Coria, Vistalba, Las Compuertas.
Ah, well, if big cities are only those above 6 million people, then yes, there are very few big cities in the world. Only 3 or 4 n North America, and and 3 or 4 in South America.
So Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, Washington, Philadephia, Monterrey, Guadalajara, Bogota, Santiago, Lima, Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Brasilia, Belo Horizonte, Montevideo... they are all small, backwards small towns as well.
@78
All I can tell you is I can go to college without people fearing I will come back in a coffin, or go to watch a movie (though I don't go watch movies), without expecting a mass panic to go off because people hear two people arguing and think their brains will be splattered, or go to a shopping mall and expect to at least come out with my life from it.
Sadly you can't say the same can you?
Yankee are crimes of passion murders no longer a crime? SOme interesting crime stats.....I wonder why more women are inprison in argentina? Surprisingly, the USA is only slightly ahead of argentina in murder stats per capita. I find it interesting that argentina is number 1 in robberies. 7 times more robberies than in the USA.
St.John, you've noticed as well that TiT is losing his composure as it shows in his word choice, insults and the bfact he is incapable of linking any other source than wikipedia and utube.
I think that the combo of mom puslling off her nipple and la campora probably threatening him with voilence, he is under increasing pressure to get someone.....anyone to believe what he types.
www.nationmaster.com/compare/Argentina/United-States/Crime
“Mendoza, una ciudad cercada por el delito”
La CIUDAD, no la provincia.
“Mucho para una ciudad como Mendoza, donde los comerciantes optan por atender detrás de las rejas y donde los vecinos no se cansan de pedir mayor presencia policial.”
“A lot for a town like Mendoza, where the merchants choose to serve/work behind bars and where neighbors never tire of asking for more police presence.”
www.lanacion.com.ar/1508911-mendoza-una-ciudad-cercada-por-el-delito
53 homicides in all the province, that is how the statistics are measured by the police, whether you like it or not.
Which doing quick math would give a homicide rate of 5 per 100k. Could be much better, but it is much better than most of the world including many backwards small towns in the USA like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Miami, Philadelphia, etc.
And in Argentina we don't try to assassinate political figures, or have mass shootings at shopping malls. That's for disturbed places like Canada.
One thing we absolutely don't have is mobs of vigilantes killing and burning down houses or business. At least 1x week that happens somewhere in that gosh forsaken place.
Cap, Rgs think violent crimes of passion ( against women such as rape, murder) don't count for some reason. Maybe they think they deserve it or since they know each other it isn't really a crime? I have no idea,
I do know crime stats are WAAAAY under reported especially crime against tourists. The US embassy is actually quite concerned.
Really?
True I suppose. You only have a history of mass murder and dictatorship. Is it any wonder that the people of Argentina are worried about the government rewriting the constitution allowing a 3rd term for the President, the very thing that the constitution was written to prevent.
The longer someone is in power the more it goes to their heads, and the more likely it is that there will be a return to dictatorship.
The people of Argentina have 30,000 reasons not to want to risk anyone taking power again, and this muppet government better wake up and start listening to the people they're meant to represent.
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-poll-25-percent-americans-hesitant-movie-colorado-shooting-354948
@85
At least we know our issues. Sad part is you think the UK is really a democracy, and that you have control over your politicians. That's why you only go to war when the reasons are utterly required, and you are never led into pointless bloodshed... hahahaha.
@84
Violent crime is much higher in the USA, which is why you are warned before leaving Argentina if your destination is that junk joint with a ministry warning about firearm killings.
“53 homicides in all the province, that is how the statistics are measured by the police”
The source clearly says “Mendoza, una ciudad ...”
Is it impossible for the police to count the number of homocides in the town alone?
Do you have a better source for your claim that the number is for the entire province?
I yes, then let's se it. If not, stop fantasizing.
Funny you always demand proof from me, but you never provide any sources for the crap you say about Canada, or yankeeboy spews about the USA. Just a slight bigotry perhaps, suggesting you north americans are not liars and we are?
www.losandes.com.ar/notas/2011/1/9/tercer-consecutivo-bajo-indice-homicidios-provincia-544023.asp
It clearly states: for the third straight year the homicide totals for Mendoza PROVINCE have gone down:
2008: 131
2009: 119
2010: 109
2011? = 106
www.losandes.com.ar/notas/2011/11/24/mueren-personas-como-victimas-delito-como-victimas-guerra-608488.asp
So much for the deceitful and dishonest bullcrap spewed here.
And 53 homicides in the first seven months, but only something like 15-20 since. Which means it is likely this year 2012 will close for the FIFTH YEAR on the decline... at the current rate at around 100.
But why would I tell you all to let the facts stop the fun? If it makes you all feel better about the sorry state of your nation's society and economy, by all means, pretend Argentina is worse. :)
btw 2011 movies sales 9/16/11 YTD 7.5 billion 2012 9/16/12 YTD 7.8 billion YTD
I just provided you “HARD” statistics. Five years in a row the homicide rate in Mendoza is going DOWN. What will your pathetic excuse be now, in order to not give Mendoza police or the citizens any credit for the murder rate falling? I'm sure you will come up with a very boring way to deny it.
And as I said, since I never lie but YOU do, and just did, the 53 homicides are the entire province of 1.7 million. You were caught so now go put out the fire in your pants.
“you never provide any sources”
I do nothing but - as in # 82
Perhaps you should get treatment for your severe mental problems?
Political instability in Canada, up 1000% in just two weeks. Eat it after eating the last one.
statistics ending 2010 - two years ago.
Still room for another one to join you. I think 4 of your brains against my superbrain would be about even. Get Conqueror to join to, his lone half-noetic neuron adds nothing anyway.
www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=10748
BTW....they never tell that to my in laws when they leave argentina to visit us here in the USA?
They do in Mendoza for flights in transit via Santiago to the USA. They also state that if you rent a car, you must lock your car at gas stations and not leave belonging inside, as it is a common crime in the USA for others to open the passenger side and take purses and computers because people leave them on that seat.
“I just provided you “HARD” statistics.”
You provided a link to a newspaper article, same as I, so I just provided you “HARD” statistics.
I notice that the murder statistics from el 'Ministerio de Justicia y Derechos Humanos' end in 2009, you have to wonder why.
Why do you keep blabbering about Canada?
Personally I rarely mention it - why should I? I've never been there.
I am afraid it's your third brain cell - the one you had implanted - that is causing you problems. I suggest you have it removed again. - hope they marked it, so they don't remove one of the two you were used to.
Ah, so that is the excuse. The statistics end in 2009. No they don't, they end in that article in 2010, first of all. So lie number 1.
Then in the next article that I provided, it said the murder rate for 2011 would end at around 106. I don't have time right now to find an article with the official stat, I would have to search the paper archives.
But then you have your own self-provided article that said in the first 7 months of 2012 there were 53. Assuming the same number of murders happen in the last 7 months, that equals 106.
106 matches nicely with the numbers provided by the other articles I provided, so there is complete credibility in my numbers and statements, and full discredit of your lies.
So, for 2012 we can expect in Mendoza a total of between 100-106 homicides, which would at worst be a steady level, but likely the 5th year of decline.
So much the propaganda huh? I suggest you all stick with the countries you know, of Argentina you know even less than you know about female anatomy.
“St.John, you've noticed as well that TiT is losing his composure as it shows in his word choice, insults and ...”
As I wrote in # 99, I am afraid it's her third brain cell, the one she had implanted.
How do I know TTTonta is a female?
La hembra de la especie es más malévolo que el macho.
The female of the species is more malevolent than the male.
you keep up the good work,
and you may well get a better leader.
“So lie number 1. ...”
I have just shown that you tell nothing but your own lies and fantasies. Drank too much Fanta instead of milk when you were a suckling little piggie with a pink ribbon around your neck, did you?
Fanta and pink ribbons is all you have left to stand on after being embarrassed.
I proved the homicide numbers are for all the province, including Tunuyan, the Uco Valley, and San Rafael.
I proved the numbers are official.
I proved you are a moron.
I proved yankeebroke is a moron.
I prove everyone else here but me is a moron.
Your welcome.
Have you forgotten that your previous posts are on this page for everybody to read and compare. Your #3 cell seems to block your memory.
Noticed how it cried of being picked n by three? Such intolerable cruelty if you ask me.....lol. He is a disgrace to the good, hard working people of Argentina who pays for the mis-management of the country that ass lips kirchner is doing.
#74 Ame keep it up and more power to you and the people. I only hope that October is ten fold larger a turn out.
on the war path.
come to defend TTT, ah ah ah .lol.
I know nothing and care less for the internal politics of Argentina. No doubt the good people of the country will sort it out themselves.
To call Mr. Macri “scary” and looking like a Nazi beggars belief.
Just for the hell of it , I showed my wife the picture and asked what she, being unbiased, thought of his looks. She thought that he looked quite distinguished and very presentable. I said nothing else about him.
What is more scary is someone like Timerman. He acts like a clown and looks like one !
Correction, the Nazis were your enemies, not Argentina's. I can understand why you as a Brit would see them as that since they did attack your country, but they did nothing to us.
Thanks for the feedback, I am confident , things will get better soon, enjoy the rest of your day.
“Hey where's buddy yankeeboy? I mean I thought we had agreed to try to make this somewhat of a fair fight: captain bobby, yankeebroke, and St. Jock combined against me.”
OMG!!! Is tit crying that things are unfair?? Is La Campora's paid troll complaining about underhanded tactics on the forum?? Is tit upset that other posters information links are not intellectually honest???
Wow, how ironic !! LOL LOL LOL
Am I British or an American Titty....make up your mind. I sense you have a perverted affection to the nazi youth's, but then, I also heard the fatsimo the fat fuck kirchner was fond of the younger boys there.....is that why you are as you are? He get to you before you reached the tender age of ten? You know no better nor nothing else?
Perhaps 'Ministerio de Justicia y Derechos Humanos' (The Ministry of Justice and Human Rights) no longer trusts data from The Ministry of Truth (Newspeak: INDEC) when it comes to unpleasant facts?
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@ 108 British_Kirchnerist
“Macri looks scary in the picture doesn't he, like a Nazi!”
Oh, so you are an adherent to Phrenology, feeling sure you can judge persons on their appearance.
If that were possible, how can swindlers (who must look unreliable) deceive people?
“Oh, so you are an adherent to Phrenology, feeling sure you can judge persons on their appearance.”
Hey, don't forget - BK keeps cooing about how lovely he thinks CFK is.
I imagine therefore, he thinks she is a benevolent Dictator, er Dominatrix, er President, who is very trustworthy.
:-)
All these peronist blame the World Bank and the IMF for agentina's failures and becoming a worldwide pariah as a deadbeat borrower. But funny how IMF bailed out Brazil, they tightened they belts and turned things around. Not only did they pay off their debt, they did it a year ahead of time. Whats the difference?
1-competence
2-less corruption
3-country first, politics second
Indec is the reason IMF will censure argentina tomorrow.
How is political instability in Canada up 1000%? Surely you don't think its because the frogs managed to eke out a minority provincial government. Even when they were the official opposition in the federal government they still had no real power or the ability to sway the province to separate. Most of the Argentine immigrant population here in Toronto comes from Mendoza, I wonder why?
“Most of the Argentine immigrant population here in Toronto comes from Mendoza, I wonder why?”
May be to claim Totonto as an OSAT (Over Seas Argentine Territory) in the near future?
Ahh, I see, “lebensraum”!
I think that is one of the main reason I keep coming back :)
During the moment of the protest, the event was discussed openly during many minutes in 6 7 8 at 21 hs on the screen of the public television, and it continued being discussed in the following days, beside that day, the protest was showed in the night edition of the news. On the other hand, the public television is not a news chanel, like cn23 (which supports the government), or tn (which is against the gov.), however both transmitted the protests in the moment that they were happening.
Actually, you are right, for some reason when people go out of country from Mendoza, they go to Canada, just as much as Italy or the USA. I know because I had a Canadian in my class in elementary school, well, half canadian the mother argentine the father canadian. After the father died, they came back.
Mendoza is after Buenos Aires the city with most ex-pats and actual long term foreign residents. I wonder why they leave paradise to come here.
You have to be kidding!
12 USA embassies overseas under attack = Obama & Clinton= FRITOS
4 USA embassies employees dead =incompetent security
....and you cover your arse in Mercopress! jeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What a wimp!
Looks like Rgland gets censured offically in a few hours. Ass lips kirchner called her ministers to meet as she was given the heads up. And to boot, they want to remove argentina from the G20.
www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/domestic-and-global-pressure-increases-against-argentine-president-cristina-kirchner-170017176.html
Did this pro CFK state propaganda program treat the reasons for the caserolazo with respect?
Or did they mock it?
Kindly answer please
“Mendoza is after Buenos Aires the city with most ex-pats and actual long term foreign residents. I wonder why they leave paradise to come here.”
I have been one of them and know many of the others.
The main reasons are:
1. The healthy climate
2. Most of the Mendocinos are very friendly and well behaved
3. Investments in wineries
For CFK is time to get out of Dodge! For those of you not familiar with the expression, you can research it or basically means:
to leave or get out (of anywhere) at once'
Read more: What is the origin of the saying, “Get out of Dodge”? | Answerbag www.answerbag.com/q_view/70657#ixzz26l8tyMAt
It is a serious question....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnOOo6tRs8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8EcDVhMSss
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnVTqJjV5Uc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOvXs-Fk72s
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6WYUymObNY
Conqueror/Captain Poppy no one is interested in your comments>you have to watch CNN News to see soon all the british embassies will close in the Middle East same like the USA 12 embassies under attack!
As you can see no security. This is the end for Obama & Clinton!
And the American “Dream”?
“The American Dream is over”
img829.imageshack.us/img829/3346/1dream.jpg
60 million people cannot afford to buy food or health care coverage.
5 million Americans had to go abroad to find a job and a decent standards of living.
www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/21/1009101/-Death-of-America-s-empire-45-million-on-food-stamps-60-million-no-sick-leave-59-million-no-medical
Hey, I always loved Mendoza.
The question was treated openly along the rest of the days, i think they did it with respect, and making an ample analysis of the situation, anyway, you don't need to believe what i say, just search it on line, or in the web site of the public television.
On the other hand, i think there is hipocresy and doble standart when some people refer to the chanels that support the government, they are always considered like propaganda, however all those chanels or newspapers that support the oponent politic parties, are never considered like that, in fact, they are considered like independent press. In my opinion, i don't believe neather in neutrality nor in objetivity, i only believe and respect the different ideologies, no matter if agree or not with many of them, but the big difference between the chanels or the newspapers that support the government, and those that are against it, is that the press that supports it, are much more reliable, because they don't distort the information, like the most important chanels and newspapers do with all that is related to c. f. k's government, you can agree or not with what both say, but when i compare them, i realise that the press that supports the government is much mor reliable, beside there are also many critics to the government too.
Remember when you asked me certain questions pretending being a chinese residing in Tierra del Fuego while commenting in The Economist ...“Argentina Cooking Books”...heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeee
lol
My guess is that what really worries the protestors is that there will be an amendment which allows for a third term and the CFK will be returned with an increased majority.
Learn to use your computer, learn html and then make bizarre allegations! I have always used Zhivago and since I am not schizophrenic any other posts are not mine.
Stupid cunt!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQFtNLvcl8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvYGvxVHpw
Ha ha poor is just bad thing but poor, yank and idiot Wow.
That is really bad...
3 months to fix your numbers in indec......then cut off from international trade......hehehehe.
And what about your cleaning toilettes family business in Tijuana?
If that is what you really think I do.......prove it? or shut up and move on.
You see, so scare...of retaliation...
come on...stop hiding your testicles!
WHIMP!
You said it, you are a wimp UK rubish bloody arse.
Miedoso y asqueroso! Viejo estupido!
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besar mi culo america skank
When argentina experiences her rebirth after ass lips kirchners demise. I'll raise my glass and think of your pathetic meaningless words.
Come on...how about “your USA”....
.... the economy is getting worst and I repeat with the attacks on 12 USA embassies overseas, you should post your comments on how the USA is going to protect us from the next Taliban attack!
YOU big wimp, miedoso y asqueroso. Viejo estupido!
“only outsiders who don't know Argentina get all worked up about it.”
PP Hunter is an “outsider” too.
All his references are near his home, near Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He jas stated that he cannot return there. Not likely he has any connection with Argentina anymore, or the people who live there.
PH Alex Vargas lives with his parents, still. They are likely listed in the phone book for Metro Toronto
Don't worry about this one either - looks like he has no passport (illegal immigrant, criminal record?) and cannot travel to the US
I agree, he is best ignored - a waste of our time.
Sussie bumboy coffee boy is particularly twisted hateful and narcissistic. He likes to brag and lives half in fantasyland. Not much substance in most posts. Others, he is somewhat coherent - two or more La Campora troll operators perhaps??
More of a waste of time, but fun to bait him
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL ...
Whatever is going on behind the scenes, the trolls are a real collection of unbalanced fringe personalities, if not outright mentally-ill :-)
“some “crazy” might chop his testicles.”
“he gets 150 male erections and have these men waiting on a row...”
Yawn, this is getting very old and boring.
Is that all you ever think about?
Poppy,
We should ignore this troll as well, I think.
I really try to....sometimes it gets me......mostly I do because it can't make a complete thought. I really get a kick out of it wanting my contact info and the fact it thinks I am English. I keep thanking it for the compliment
I am hoping Argies get a responsible representational government, bringing hope and prosperity.
Then the Falklands will hopefully be left alone - no more jealous neighbour.
I have a USA bank account with dollars but the ATM gives me devaluated pesos.
I want to emigrate and create a decent company somewhere abroad...
I want to raise kids away from this.
By the way, I was in Boston in winter. Not so bad!!
Yes when you withdraw fron the ATM there give you the currency of the country you are in. What's your business you seek to open?
Sg.caro & Poppy Inc.
Sg. Sales manager and Captain Poppy in finances.
Now they jut have to find what to sale.
Lies, Illusions and Mediocrity perhaps?
hahaha.... I already have a company here but it is based on customers from other countries. It's about web development (and I use Paypal which is going to partially disappear ). I am also developing simultaneously three extra projects:
- TV online
- A kind of Dropbox
- Musicians and songwriters social network (with store and interesting contents).
I have “blogs” since more than 4 years and I worked at multinational tech companies.... ;)
Godspeed Sg.caro
aaaaaaah....keep blaming sussie....I can see you are KNACKERED!
This web site is a Port-A-John for the brits to dump their CRAP!
No one pay attention what “the brits” have to say...remember:
the brits are known as rubbish bloody english people! ALL AROUND THE WOOOOOORRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLD! lol
@180 Conqueror/Captain Poppy/Zhivago/Craig R
same guy posting in The Economist under Argentina Cooking Books.
My comments were selected the most popular!
Viva La Sussie
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/112159/soybeans-face-biggest-weekly-decline-in-a-year
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