Monday, October 1st 2012 - 09:44 UTC

CFK’s positive image at a record low of 25.5%, according to latest poll

The image of Argentine President Cristina Fernandez has fallen at 25.5%, to its lowest positive, very distant from the over 54% she enjoyed last November, following her sweeping re-election, according to a public opinion poll from consultants Management & Fit released over the weekend.

Ms Fornoni: “people want solutions for insecurity, corruption, inflation and demand freedom”

President Cristina Fernandez image has fallen at 25.5%

The poll was done surveying 2.300 people covering the whole country and is the first to be made public following on the massive spontaneous demonstrations with pots and pans of last September 13 against the administration of President Cristina Fernandez.

According to the poll, 15.2% of those interviewed admitted having attended the protest against the Argentine government, while 64.7% said they did not go out to the streets and 19.4% admitted they could not go, but would have liked to participate.

Overall, 70% of the survey approves the way to protest, banging pots and pans, and when asked if they would be participating in the next protest which has been announced for 8 November, the replies are split in half.

The pollster who usually works for different provincial governments organized this particular poll covering the city of Buenos Aires and all regions and major cities of the country, completing 2.259 interviews.

“This is the first opinion poll after the pots and pans banging and reveals that there are more people who say they went to the demonstrations than actually did so. And this is because even when it was a massive outpour, people feel they have been listened to and want to be part of the demands. Evidently there is an empathy condition with the situation. This is a phenomenon, which is accepted and is on the increase. People are demanding urgent solutions for insecurity, corruption, inflation and also there is a beginning demand for freedom”, said Mariela Fornoni, Director of M&F.


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1 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:19 am Report abuse
Perhaps people are tired of:

* lack of accepting responsibility
* Increase in crime
* Lack of products due to import restrictions (to get U$ dollars)
* U$ dollars restrictions
* Massive inflation
* government corruption
* Chronic lies to the people
I mean, other than that, I can't imagine why she is lower in the polls?
2 agent999 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:40 am Report abuse
Mayhap the Argentinians are pissed off by the fact that she answered questions to strangers at Harvard but does not think she needs talk or answer questions to her own people to back home!
3 MaxAue (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:45 am Report abuse
C'mon TTT and all ya trolls - this is an outright lie, and only the INDEC (according to which CFK probably still enjoys a 54% support from the population, if not more) tells the truth right, and this poll is again orchestrated by the corrupt European racist wannabe medias.
Will this right wing propaganda ever end?

4 Conqueror (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:31 am Report abuse
Interesting. A certain BK had plenty to say on other articles, but nothing to say on how unpopular his “goddess” is. Have they had a tiff? Is he overcome at the lack of understanding shown by the population of argieland? Is he sat behind his keyboard trying to think of how to explain that US$113 million is hardly anything. Barely enough to cover a “girl's” shoe bill. And what's wrong with owning a few hotels? One needs somewhere to stay when away from home. And who could care about a few little white lies? Like those about the rate of inflation, the dollar clamp, the state of the railways, the amount of poverty, the amount of public debt, the economy, corruption in public office, justice, how to start a dynasty, the Falkland Islands, everything else, everywhere else, everyone else!
5 KretinaKK (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:46 am Report abuse
The link at the bottom of this message will take you to a video. It will show you the type of forum Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner is used to speaking in. A “political” rally which her government organized, where she just talks about herself, all she's done for the people and gets thousands of people to clap, cheer and wave banners in her support. She's not able to hold any other type of forum. And the people attending? Who are they? Poor people who live in shantytowns (villas) as we call them, who are paid between 20-50 pesos to attend, they get served a sausage sandwich (called Choripan) and given cheap wine (that comes in cardboard packs called Tetra). Then they show this on television for days and days with all the people cheering for her to make it looks like she has all of this political support! This are true corrupt Argentine poltics.......a political forum at Harvard is way TOO much for Cristina!.......
6 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
She never lost my support and she will be president again do to lack of alternatives. You can all quote me on this, CFK will be president again do to the none existent competition. And there is nothing literally nothing anyone or any newspaper can do about it, just cry us a river as Brits usually do everyday here in mercopress. We Argentine love CFK even if the rest of the world doesn't like her because fortunately for us Argentina's Self determination is a universal right not just a privilege for the English only. Besides CFK is way less corrupt then UK, UN, WTO and IMF, we are good no need for outsiders to interfere. THANKS BUT,NO THANKS!
7 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
No asshole.......some assholes like asslips kirchner, not all Argentine's. Remember....asslips and assholes are inseparable.
8 Idlehands (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:42 pm Report abuse
“We Argentine love CFK even if the rest of the world doesn't like her because fortunately for us Argentina's Self determination is a universal right not just a privilege for the English only”

Well there you have it. Pirate-Hunter finally agrees that self determination is a universal right - and therefore must be supporting the Falklanders right to determine their future for themselves.
9 MaxAue (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:45 pm Report abuse

Most amazing thing about that post Pirat-Hunter is that according to INDEC CFK's approval ratings just went through the roof and hit an astonishing 98% while you were typing. :)))))
10 Condorito (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:51 pm Report abuse
She didn’t so much answer questions at Harvard, as insult the questioners and give childish replies.

This one incident more than any highlights what a poor quality political operator she is. Her supporters can always argue away the mismanagement of the economy based on questionable data, but there is no getting away from the fact that at Harvard she was incapable of answering soft questions from students and resorted to insulting the questioners, certain Argentine educational establishments and the intelligence of anyone listening.

Those paranoid Argies who believe that the US/UK is out to destroy Argentina must surely question who she is playing for. She is a one-woman own-goal machine.
11 Ozgood (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:59 pm Report abuse
Perhaps the writing is on the wall for her but she cannot read ancient Hebrew - counted counted tried and found wanting.
12 Steveu (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
@8 Idlehands

No - he only said that “*Argentina's* Self determination is a universal right” - I guess that implies that there is one rule for Argentina and another for the Falklanders in RGspeak.

I smell the very strong whiff of hypocrisy.
13 Simon68 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:02 pm Report abuse
10 Condorito (#)
Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:51 pm

Classic “shoot the messenger” tactic.

The bloody woman lied in her teeth with every “answer” she gave!!!!

Watching the action at Georgetown and Harvard made me litterally squirm with embarrassment over the incredible stone faced lying of our president. It also made me envious of the Falkland Islanders who are living in a place that:

Has 2% inflation instead of 25%.
Has no “cepo cambiario”.
Has almost no crime.
Has a stable currency.
Has a group of spokespersons who talk sense.
Has full democracy.

Whilst thinking about all that, I also thought that if the Falkland Islands had a railway, it would probably run on time and not kill the passangers!!!!
14 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:13 pm Report abuse expand on the duelity of “The Rule of argentines”'s simple stated as : One rule for argentina and another for the rest of the world.

Whats argentina's is asslips
Whats asslips is asslips

Simon.....push the position to develope a candidate.
15 Simon68 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
14 Captain Poppy (#)
Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:13 pm

As I see it we really need a triumvirate:

1) Julio Cobos for his centred position and honesty,
2) Hermes Binner for his truly sensible social programmes,
3) Mauricio Macri for his business acumen.

If there wer one person with all those virtues we'd be home and dry, I guess we must keep hoping!!!
16 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
#7 I rather be an Argentine asshole then a british murderer of Muslim innocent women and children, I am glad we got that clear.
#8 yes the British slaves of fakland company can deside to become Argentine's or go back to their home land UK by themselves, that is if UK allows them back home. Lol good luck with that to all unwanted english subjects.
#9 if you pay attention to the anti Argentine's and the english chances are that nothing you say can be taken seriously and everything you say will sound funny, there is just to many anty Argentine comedians out there.
#10 can a childish bable be taken seriously??? No I don't think so.
#11 there in no wall in Argentina only China build one to keep Europeans out and in Germany the Europeans build it to keep eachother out, the Europeans built one in USA to keep the locals from reclaiming their lands. bad choice of words. Better luck next time.
#12 the rules are the same for everyone fakland corporation can go back to UK ASAP and the unwanted british bastards can become Argentine or go back to their home land UK. Other then that we will have to hunt them down or set rat poison to get rid of the pessty brits as they do to innocent Muslim women and children.
17 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
President Cristina Fernandez has fallen at 25.5%
take of for true inflation,
and what do you have,

spent plastic.
18 ChrisR (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
Analysis of the poll for all the Malvanistas who cannot understand the implications (Malvanistas are the trolling idiots not the likes of Simon68 and others).

“According to the poll, 15.2% of those interviewed admitted having attended the protest against the Argentine government,”
When I was responsible, among other things, for the customer service department in a major white goods manufacturer we knew one thing for certain: for every one dissatisfied customer there were at least 10 others who did not bother to complain. She is getting close to 100% dissatisfaction here.

“while 64.7% said they did not go out to the streets”
This is clearly because they fear the crime ridden streets and lack of personal security.

“and 19.4% admitted they could not go, but would have liked to participate.”
This makes it more or less total dissatisfaction with some element of the government.

The problem is not knowing that reasonable people are unhappy with what is happening, that is self-evident, but what to do about it. Perhaps Simon68 is close to the answer in 15), but that would result in three presidents.

Is one President and two VP’s the answer, can the constitution allow for that?

Sorry, I was forgetting it was the Argentine Constitution - for a moment there I thought it was something that mattered.
19 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
I hope that she is stupid enought to send out goons during the next scheduled protest.
That will surely liven things up....
20 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 03:46 pm Report abuse
We Argentine support CFK 100% and we invite UK and USA to stop murdering innocent Muslim women and children before commenting in a peaceful democracy like Argentina. CFK is not a murderer like bush nor a liar like Cameron nor is CFK a CIA trained terrorist, be sure to remove the log on from your own eye before trying to remove the stick in my eye. The laws in a democracy can be changed wich makes it stand out from a dictatorship. Changing the constitution is the strongest act of a democracy, dictatorships don't like changing the constitution that much. We love CFK the more UK and USA hates her the more we Argentines love her. Fortunately The english don't have a say in our elections.
BAMOS BAMOS CFK 2015 malvinas Argentina y al carajo con los ingleses. Let's demand a nuclear defence programs for Argentina, let ask CFK to protect Argentina from the theft of our resources, let's stand up and take from the english as they theft from us.
21 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
First off, the US and Europe does not hate argentina........only you....tit and dumburger and asslips. Make sure you absorb that. And you are correct that we do not have a say in the elections their, makes us feel like an argentine citizen.
The more you ask for something you will never get, the stupider you appear.

78 days
22 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:10 pm Report abuse

Of course you do, otherwise how to explain the hatred on this website.

Quote of the year, brought to you by Idlehead:

“8 Truth_Telling_Troll - you seem to misunderstand how the UN works. There was no UN resolution passed that demanded the invasion of Iraq should be stopped.”
23 agent999 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
@20 pirate

We don't hate her - she just hates you Argentinians and democracy.
Also ask about Kitchener's family Swiss bank accounts - she will need them soon.

@10 Condorito.

I agree that she made a complete fool of herself - but my point was by going to Harvard, taking part in a question and answer session, was more than she has ever done at home in Argentina.
24 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:30 pm Report abuse
“Of course you do, otherwise how to explain the hatred on this website.”

Read slower because this website does not allow bigger fonts:

“First off, the US and Europe does not hate argentina........only you....tit and dumburger and asslips. Make sure you absorb that.”

I am convinced she hates ARgentines that are-1-has an education 2- that work and support themselves...and most importantly 3-do not support her feeble and failing economic model called...“argentina's pockets to mine....all mine”

November there or live with regrets.

I think if asslips kirchner says theyt have demcracy enough she will hope her people believes it.
Notice no reports of the venezuelan oppotion murders.
25 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:40 pm Report abuse
#21 I wasn't asking, I was telling you that we Argentines love CFK and that english and Europeans have no say in CFK re-Election. I don't hate Americans or Europeans I hate murderers of innocent Muslims women and children, we can all see why you can get confused.
#23 are you saying swiss banks facilitate theft, drug smuggling, weapons smuggling, money laundering and corruption around the world?? So why are the white people arming terrorists and murdering innocent Muslims women and children. Shouldn't UK, USA and France be bombing swiss banks instead of insulting CFK ?? Can you see why Argentine don't really care to even understand retards.
26 Steveu (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 05:12 pm Report abuse
@16 .. and what if the the Falklanders exercise their right of self determination to stay EXACTLY where they are? Their home, The Falkland Islands?

How dos that fit in with your idea of self determination?
27 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 05:18 pm Report abuse
We kill our enemy whenever at war whomever it may be. If you've ever successfully fought a war you would know that. You see ph, you do not fights wars holding your hands in the air running backwards........the argentine battle tacts. PH go back to eating bananas and swinging from your jungle trees. When you make references to “the whiteman” your racism manifests it's ugly brown head.
28 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 05:49 pm Report abuse

The USA and Europe hate Argentina, and have wanted our destruction since 1948.

And where is the democracy in your country? I fail to notice any sign of it.
29 agent999 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
where is your proof for these comments ?
30 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:04 pm Report abuse
Lets see, a two party “democracy” is like saying “a per pound buffet”.

And those two parties answer to the same 200 families that own 50% of the wealth there. All other political parties are squashed, not allowed to be on ballots, denied federal funds, etc.

The media no longer questions anything or investigates. Either one set of channels/newspapers spews propaganda for the right, the other for the left. The politicians merely go to the news outlet where they will be “cuddled” and not asked anything, so no cross-examination occurs.

Fraud all over the place starting in the year 2000.

If I have the election system of that country correct, 90% is not even courted for votes, because it is not the vote that counts but the pool of congressmen in a point system on election day, which means only the congressmen of the provinces in “dispute” get courted, leaving the rest of the country to not even matter.

Courts make law.

Mass shootings everywhere.

Anything else?
31 2012 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:13 pm Report abuse
@ 4 Conqueror @ 7 Captain Poppy=same rubbish bloody english wimp

USA Today 1o/1/2012 Former presidental candidate Ross Perot:
budget experts agree that neither major party candidate for president ----“food stamps” Obama--- and Mitt Romney---- has a CREDIBLE PLAN to balance the budget...
What that's means....more poverty....despair.... and hunger.....
“GOD” pleeeeeease HEEEEEEEEEEELP .....the United States of America....
32 GastonBaires (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
Only bad news about Argentina!!!
Argentina will crash very very soon.
There’s not a conspiracy and nobody wants it is just because the have the worst president ever. The Devil!!!!!
There’s people, countries, organizations that don’t get tired of embarrassed them selves.

Thank God, my mother and school taught me to read religiously everyday every newspaper and investigate what is really going on.
33 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
has anyone notices a difference in the page set up,
the list on the right side are now at the bottom of the page,
or have argie troll got in.
34 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:26 pm Report abuse
Tit.....get dad out of your ass, it's affects your menial thinking.

“f I have the election system of that country correct, 90% is not even courted for votes, because it is not the vote that counts but the pool of congressmen in a point system on election day, which means only the congressmen of the provinces in “dispute” get courted, leaving the rest of the country to not even matter.”

No you do not have it right.....go back to wikipedia and get it wrong once more for more laughs. Read more about the Electoral College and the populace vote. Electoral college no longer plays a role. Tell la campora they got it wrong. President's here do not court Congressman LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......opps...I mean..JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA.

As I can hardly deny things you've opined about, because afterall they are opinion. But when you come out in this previous post and say....this is how your political system works. You have proved, without any effort from me, how ignorant you really are! Though I enjoyed the laugh tit. Dads tool must be so big it presses on your brain stem.
And again you have it wrong. It's the top 1% owns 40% of total wealth. And, to top that off.....the USA = 5.1 % of the worlds population but accounts for 27% of the worlds NET wealth as PPP. American middle class still still has a 60% home ownership rate and that's all the average USA citizen cares about....taking care of themselves and owning their home. Not something a RG can say.
35 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:29 pm Report abuse
#26 We are comparing apples to oranges here, People right to self determination clearly state that people have the freedom to choose their own will. But Islas Malvinas Argentina is not people nor is the fakland island people. One in an Argentine territory the other a UK corporate. I have a home and family in Canada and that doesn't make me Canadian.
#27 there is no American or british products on my banana tree. As a matter of fact 10 to 1, China keeps 90 % of my income. Why kill the enemy when you can watch them suffer? A dead enemy couldn't be a challenge, But yeah some people do deserve to die, it all depends on time and who has nothing left to lose, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.
36 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
Aye me laddie,
Capt kid goanna maker you walk the plank, ar,

Swim ya varmin, har har.
Canada is a safe place to hide in…
37 yosoy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
28 “The USA and Europe hate Argentina, and have wanted our destruction since 1948.”

Sadly, this is an opinion I have heard from a (small) number of Kirchneristas since arriving in Argentina. While the communist/ capitalist ideology war of the past 60 years has led to some unsavoury policies in Latin America and elsewhere, (from BOTH sides, not just the west!) there is NO HATRED for Argentina from the US or UK. (Well, perhaps abit of bad feeling when your military dictatorship invaded the territory of our citizens but thats about it. And in the past! ) There has been mistaken policy, of course, particularly on the part of the IMF in the 90s, but that wasn't hate - the IMF wanted Argentina to succeed! when they failed dramatically it was a PR catastrophe for the IMF. And please, Argentina, accept some of the responsibility for the 2001 crash! Menem was the one who implemented policies which clearly wouldnt work, and embezzled state funds on such a high scale. Menem was ARGENTINE! and not yankee or English. so dont blame the western world for everything! Cant you see that the xenephobic feeling that Kirchner is feeding in her followers is only to distract you from the mounting economic problems in the country through uniting you against a common enemy?
Why cant our countries be friends?!?!?! I love Argentina, Argentineans and the country. I DONT love the xenophobia that has emerged here in recent years. Or the crime. Or the lack of liberty my friends have to face in terms of travelling/ saving/ living.
We live in a connected world, whether you like it or not, and foreign policy based on trust is so important for Argentina's success. Why can't Cristina and her cronies work with other countries and establish relationships based on negotiation and friendship, instead of spouting mistrust and accusations for past mistakes, over and over again?
38 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:49 pm Report abuse
Why can't Cristina and her cronies work with other countries?

Because she wants what is not hers,
She wants to give,
What is not hers to give?

She has promised victory after victory for the last couple of years,
And she must now come up with the goods,
Or go,

We think she should go.
39 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:49 pm Report abuse
“Why can't Cristina and her cronies work with other countries and establish relationships based on negotiation and friendship”

Because there are no such partners on the other side, when have Europeans, UK, or USA been honest in negotations. They simply are trying to protect the status quo (them wielding power) . Simple as that.

How can you negotiate with people whom want to keep things as are meaning keeping whomever and whatever down?
40 Steveu (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
@26 If you were an Argentinian but were born in Canada you would have the right to belong to the land of your birth

Same goes for the Falklanders except they are born on their land - it never was Argentinian and your forbears shouldn't have signed their claims away in 1850 if it meant so much to them. Don't blame the islanders for choosing to live where they were born
41 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
Hey guys....don't bother with yiy, ph, alex sussie and all it's names..........they are illegitmate and not worth a breath. Their are real South Americans in this site, while they may disargree, they speak intelligently.
42 2012 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:59 pm Report abuse
@34 Conqueror/Captain Poppy= same rubbish bloody UK WIMP

Please, pay attention, for the last 4 years the USA is loosing the “middle class”
more unemployment, more credit card debts, more personal bankruptcy...
try to get a job? applicant needs to sleep on the street of the JOB FAIR site be first interview for the job opening...just for the interview only...job interviews don't guarantee a permanent job, if selected, the applicant is on evaluated from the first 90 days of work...continued job evaluations have to be
good in order to retain the job....

Referenced to your comment ”all the average USA citizen cares about...taking care about themselves....
You must be intoxicated to say those words:
The majority of the USA citizen are:

Millons of US citizens have lost value of their homes....
in the USA if a neighboor house is repossed by the mortage company....
...... the rest of houses LOSE MONETARY VALUE IMMEDIATELY!
my sister in law, a registered nurse, worked all her life to own the only thing she wanted most...a $200,000 house that now hardly worth $120,000
...try to sell it?.....impossible...
people are interested to buy only NEW HOUSES..

43 Ayayay (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
I really think the Kirchner admin could have gone WELL.

A nation that didn't borrow in bad times, sounds GOOD to me!

Borrowing is for CREATING money. Money seeds, (investment) to GROW MONEY, not to EAT the seeds! NOT for paying stopgaps (*cough* YPF payroll).

The Kirchner's magic trick seemed to work because they took money that wasn't theirs and showed growth.

“Did the investments at least show off their super brains.?”

Uh, no, EVERYTHING seems gold during irrational exuberance, Bernie Madoff! Get back in your cell. Here's a snack.”
44 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:08 pm Report abuse
Steveu I as an outsider really do not why the Brits even respond to the mornns that think the Falklands are the argentines. I cannot recall if you are from the islands or from the UK. But it seems to me, as well as the British government,( hence the reason for no discussions) that it's not even a discussable topic. As an American, that would be like Mexico claiming it's time to talk about Arizonia going bak to Mexico. However......I am willing to give Puerto Rico to the RG's if they desperately want an island. I am sick of supporting them.
45 Pugol-H (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:20 pm Report abuse
@ Prat C*nter
We Brits do not hate CFK, she works very well as far as we are concerned.

I guinely feel for the people in Argentina who have to suffer her policies, and there effects.

However bottom line is a CFK weakened Argentina, is much less of a coherent threat to British interests in the S Atlantic/Antarctica.

Mate, give her the Presidency for life as far as we are concerned.

@ 36 briton
By “income”, do you think he means pocket money, or dole?
46 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:40 pm Report abuse

You have not interests in Antarctica, and you are not a threat there. South Atlantic, I really don't care as long as you don't show up in our ports.
47 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
he spends his pocket money on lolipops,
whilst playing with the toy key board...
Antarctica is not argentine,
never was , never will be,
48 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
So they just announced tax revenue is up 20% yoy. Since inflation is somewhere above 25% it means the economy is grinding to a halt and possibly in free fall.
She is in quite a pickle.
I don't see anyway to turn it around.
Print print print
Patacones or 10/1 Peso which comes first...for sure one or both by xmas.
49 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
Ut Oh.....looks like a YPF based default in the works!!!
50 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
Antarctica is not argentine,
never was , never will be,

But it is. Go see for yourself. Can't do squat about changing history. Though you may try.
51 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:19 pm Report abuse
49. No rate increases since 1999! Hmm haven't salaries, taxes GAS prices gone up a lot since then.
This is the way The Ks pseudo nationalize business, drive them into bankruptcy through rate/regulation control then once all the money is sapped they nationalize and raise the rates. Wanna bet that is what is happening here... google Aguas Argentina that was the 1st one they did it to....
52 Ayayay (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
Pirat Hunter is also RIGHT, IMHO. Cristina has, maybe been as good or better a president than all the rest they've had.
Who created the child food program? GOOD JOB, CRISTINA.

As part of a country that LIKES to see people eat :), I wasn't even aware that there were civilized govs that didn't have food assistance-for EVERYONE.

But printing money so there's food inflation? Dumb.
( But I bet you she feels its money she can take back since Kirchners artificially created anyway).

Then clamping on food when she's inflating currency? No SHORTAGE of dumb. (prolly more like, dishonest)

Yet the economy cycles are cultural, don't attribute her that much power. They're Argentine.
They get a new currency every twenty years-1982 was the last one, yeah? Hello :)

Plus it was Nestornaut that defaulted. So now Argentine gov is borrowing up THREE TIMES the redline that sounded Spain's alarm.

Howev, I think the IMF is AMAZING.

They are allowed to, as a last resort, offer a loan in exchange for reform-and the corruption they are sweeping out of Greece-damn. 2 B Euros allegedly taken by the defense minister, disability pensions for shoplifters, and everywhere, jobs and pensions for votes.

The IMF is more patient and generous than me.
Go Go Cristine Lagard :)
53 GastonBaires (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
Echegaray Just announced tax collections in September $ 62,329 million. Increased by 23%. (U.S. $ 13,200 million), In a press conference!

Terrible news. Argentina is crashing!!!
54 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
#37 that's what we Argentines say and UN says and Argentina wants but the UK and the pirates of the fakland island company want to theft Argentine territory. And send nuclear armed weapons to Antartica Argentina, and for this reaon it would only be responsible to have a nuclear defense program in Argentina. UK already showed their intentions. For your information 99% of Argentine's don't just think, but believe europe and USA only care for our resources at any cost.
#38 because europe and USA don't want to work with other nation, but have other nations work for them.
#40 for what I hear this british don't want to be in Malvinas Argentina and they want to be part of a fakland island corporate and british so they want to go back to UK, since Islas Malvinas Argentine is neither.
#41 this is about Argentina go chat with the real south Americans elsewhere, am sorry but are you illiterate? Read the title retard.
#42 from enron to gm to merill linch to fredy mac and funny mae to the airlines and a few hundred more American industries gone belly up the final hours is soon approaching. A few more food poison hysterias and a terror attacks pandemonium, and their fate will be self destructive not to mention expensive.
#43 I am sure CFK is the best thing that has happened in Argentina for the past 200 years. Not my words but the headlines of many financial newspapers not too long ago. I can only assume that corruption is a world epidemic.
#44 you are a typical europid who thinks he can give land that doesn't belong to him as illegal aliens in Malvinas Argentina tryed to do 200 years ago, how is that theft going got any oil yet or you pirates still selling worthless oil stocks ??
55 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
Meanwhile, except American Airlines planes to fall out of the sky, that's how dire the economic crisis in the USA is.
56 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
53. Gaston, It is actually terrible, awful, no good news but only if you understand simple math. See my post #48 above.
57 Conqueror (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
@16 That's good. Muslims, supposedly, have their “religion” to justify their atrocities. And the argie justification? They're argies!
“British slaves”! Doubled up laughing. “Slaves” that own their own property and homes. “Slaves” that can travel freely to anywhere except totalitarian argieland. “Slaves” that elect their own government. “Slaves” that the British government listens to. Takes a million dollars to be listened to by an argie government.
Argieland isn't taken seriously. Look at the product of its “education” system. A faggot that wants to be a pirat!
Rat poison. Two words that go some way to describing argies. Lots of other words to describe argies. Few can be used in polite company. “Company” doesn't include argies. Scummy faggots wherever.
And here we have “Prat-Cunt”, a typical argie. A mindless piece of murdering scum. Just the type to murder Amerindians, shove nuns out of aircraft, rape.
@22 It's easy, faggot. You keep trying to steal something. No-one likes a thief, a liar, a murderer.
@25 Innocent muslims? Like innocent argies?
@30 Better than getting screwed over by Kirchner.
@31 Whoops, the whore's back!
@35 argie justification. Kill it!
@39 You can have anything you want as long as we can have anything we want!
@42 Jealous whore!
@54 The UN says nothing of the sort. There is no way that that the Falklands will ever belong to argieland. Not in a million years. So you can f**k right off. Stay away from the Falklands, asshole. I have no problem watching what we can do to you lot.
58 Joe Bloggs (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
Antarctic Treaty
Late October / early November
Harvard students
Service medal
480 points
59 ProRG_American (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
It seems as if the title erred and by swapping the first two digits.
60 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:25 pm Report abuse
#53 apparently does not unstand that increasing at a decreasing rate is a siign....not a good one, of things to come.
61 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
Toby, I will agree AA is horrible they need to go out of business. I used to fly them to BA all the time but the service got so bad I switched to Delta.

Luckily we have many many many airline companies to choose from too bad you don't. Plus I can fly out of the country, with money, anytime I want. I could go to London or BA tonight if I wanted. That's what citizens can do in a free country.
62 Ayayay (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
American airlines just calls itself that, it's not a gov airline like Aerolineas.
And its not losing Billions of U.S. dollars taken from Anses like Aerolineas

Partly because of deregulation (in the early 90s?) , I can get a flight LV to Rio for $496 , all taxes included. I'm not kidding you!

Imagine that, when the U.S. minimum wage is around $1400 a month.

American Airlines predates this goodness. We LIKE when old business systems go if BETTER ones take their place!
63 Joe Bloggs (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
64 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:30 pm Report abuse
Why would I need to go to any other capital? I can see their country and culture by just driving down the road. At some point in my country, if you drive long enough, you will have seen almost all the cultures of the world in some remote town.
65 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
#57 Takes a homo to know a faggot. Then there are laws in the bible that tells the wise not to argue with stupid. I am sure you catch my drift, Fakland island company is a british company they can go back to UK ASAP. islas Malvinas Argentina has no interest in keeping a pirate company nor the illegal aliens working for them. Pirate hunting season should start soon in Malvinas Argentina, am really looking forward to burning and sinking some British fishing thieves or targeting a pirate oil platforms. Get one thing straight you turd we have no interest in t
66 Monkeymagic (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
For once I tend to agree with our Argie friends...if they want to modify their constitution to keep melted-face in power...good luck...they are sure going to need it.

Ideally fair and equitable elections will be held and whoever comes out on top will gain power. Shame for the Argies if it's that harridan, but actually none of our business.

The UK people certainly don't hate Argentina, on the whole they have very little opinion on the matter. They probably consider Argentina with Osvaldo Ardiles, Ricardo Villa, Maradona, Carlos Tevez and Lionel Messi..more than Tinpot and Botox witch....throw in corned beef, a couple of bottles of wine and a Madonna movie...that's about it for Argentina.

What the Malvinista don't understand is the passion they hold for their (wrong) version of history, is not only met with equal steel by the uk populous, the 1982 invasion means that it will “never” change.

So whinging, lying, cheating, bullying...all a complete total utter waste of time.

The Islands belong to the islanders. More than 300 British and more than 600 Argentines lost their lives...just 30 years ago.

Those British servicemen did not die in vain...we will defend the rights of the islanders..your cause (misguided and false as it is) will fail.
67 Pugol-H (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
@46 Truth_Telling_Troll
Sorry but your wrong, we have a great interest in our Antarctic Territory, it is Argentina that is not in a position to be any sort of a threat to British interests, for the aforementioned reason.

We have no need to change history, when the British made the history they recorded it. The British can prove beyond any doubt their claims.

As you describe it, the Argentinian claims rests upon a population implanted since 1959, when the Antarctic treaty was signed.

You forget, nothing you do while the treaty is in effect can later be used to enhance your claim.

The Claims remain as they were in 1959, when Argentina and Chile had easily the weakest (and most recent) of all claims.

@65 Prat C*nter
You keep talking big like this, but were still waiting for you try your Pirate hunt.

You talk the talk, let’s see you walk the walk, LOL and Fucking LOL.
68 THEMan (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
@64 Tobias Just letting you know that my country probably has the fairest election method in the world, and doesn't use systems like First Past the Post. It uses the Additional Member System, which ensures that the voters, well... vote, is represented by the outcome of the election. And if you are wondering what country I'm from, it's Scotland, probably one of the best places in the Western world to live. Even if we're in a 'recession', things aren't as bad as it seems. It's just fuel prices that's killing most countries. $110 for a decent barrel of Brent Crude!!!! Ridiculous. The UN should universally lower all oil prices, to make it fairer for the consumer, and stagnate corporate greed. However, that's a fantasy, as the world's run by money these days (shame). Anyway, you may speak about how the Scottish Govt is dominated by the SNP, but this is only because they are delivering on their manifested promises, and are slowly taking away the power from Westminster (thank God as they don't understand our views, and don't listen to us), and we will soon be separated.
Taking the issue of Argentina out of the picture for a moment, let's talk about British politics. Do you agree that the independence issue will be one of the most historical moments that the world has seen for a while, since it's the possible break-up of the most well-known union on Earth? Would like your opinion on this, or anybody else's if you want to comment.
69 Ayayay (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
Driving is a good idea, triple t.
The Arg government fares within Argentina, by almost 1/3 this year, on their own people, but not on foreign flights.
70 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:06 pm Report abuse

It is statements like that where you just go off the deep end that makes you look so sophomoric.

The USA has a much more diverse population than Argentina, more diverse architecture, more diverse restaurants on and on and on and yet we still go to other countries to learn and appreciate other cultures and see new and wondrous things that we don't have here.

It's pretty hard to see the Taj Mahal and eat Indian food in Mendoza!. I think there is only 1 Indian restaurant in BA and it is expensive and awful.

Plus Architecture outside of BA is woefully lacking most of the towns look exactly like each other and have the same menus and I have been to the Patagonia “welsh” country ( doesn't look anything like wales), Bariloche( doesn't look anything like Germany), etc etc etc so you are not fooling me. I know.

Plus in a free country you would have the RIGHT to leave even if you didn't want to...
71 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:08 pm Report abuse

The UK is of no threat to us when it comes to Antarctica. Self-determination trumps all other UN or non-UN mandates, and your sole ace is right of first discovery, which is most certainly disputable (just just the contemporary discovery of Antarctica, but the fact it was probably sighted well before that), and to top it off holds no significance in modern settlements, when there are people in the territory in question.

Since it is us with the longest uninterrupted presence (since 1904, this is admitted in writing by both the USGS and the British Historical Antarctic Study), us with the most bases, us with the first permanently habitated settlement, us with the first families, us with the first indigenous Antarctican, and us with the largest population year round (the USA surpasses us in the southern summer but is of no consequence), no British interests in the continent will be placed above those of the people there, once the treaty expires.

As the rest of your dates at utter garbage, there is no doubt you have no proper rebuttal. The Antarctic peninsula is de facto ours anyway, and never will right of first discovery win in a court. If it does, then it would open the door for massive lawsuits by natives in the Americas, Australia, Africa, etc... and no country or court will open that can of worms for some ice down there.

And by the time the treaty expires, you will be in no position to take any military action against us, since it will be recorded as a war of agression and will further bolster our claim.

You can still go to Antarctica, it will simply by under our flag.
72 mastershakejb (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:13 pm Report abuse
Since the Argie trolls don't understand logic and reason, I'm not going to bother making any points with this comment.
Rather I'll just say, “LOL @ Argentina, dug your own grave, enjoy it!” and “keep enjoying the poverty while we Americans and Brits live beyond your wildest dreams in material wealth and freedoms”
73 Ayayay (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:17 pm Report abuse
Argentina visa requests to the U.S. went up FIFTY PERCENT in 2012!
BsAs now in top ten in the WORLD for processing visas to the U.S.
74 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:20 pm Report abuse

Suddendly so gracious towards other countries (except Argentina, thankfully). What you had a close mass-shooting encounter of the third kind? Making you see life a little more graciously?

Yes, I'm sure you were in Patagonia. Tell me why do you all have to lie about how much travel you've made? Please don't give me the crap about “oh, you've never left Mendoza so to you it must seem so”. I don't get why people need to overestimate.


Material wealth and freedoms... and you still shoot each other down like rabid dogs are shot down. All that material wealth and freedom sure seems to make people happy.

75 mastershakejb (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:28 pm Report abuse
Thanks for the comedy, Argentina!
I'd come there and buy land dirt cheap when you crash again, but honestly it's not worth whatever investment I'd put into the land to get it productive, since Argentina would simply collapse again a few years later, or the gov would take my land. Thaaaaaat's Argentina! ;D Disaster since 1960's!
76 2012 (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
@57 Conqueror/Captain Poppy= same rubbish bloody english WIMP

Come on.....release your name...address and phone number....
,,,,,,,,//////--------are you really that scare?...-------------------------------------
77 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:39 pm Report abuse

Why would you buy land that is dirt cheap so far away (not dirt cheap in Mendoza though), when the land you stand on is dirt cheap!

Or what you think we don't know the USA has been on a massive 50% firesale the last 4-5 years since YOUR CRASH?

Miami, New York, and other cities are owned by foreigners now, European and South America, San Francisco owned by the Chinese/Japanese, etc. Heck even your pissy water-beer is not even American anymore??

In the last four years most of the USA has been sold to the lowest foreign bidder.
78 THEMan (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
@74 Fact is our country is more stable than yours, we have more rights, have better lives overall, and have more respect for other countries, and embrace other cultures like Asian, SOUTH AMERICAN, African and others.
(This isn't aimed at just you).On the other hand, Argentinian people SEEM to have a long lasting hatred for European countries, and lack the education to actually realise that if it weren't for us, most of the people there wouldn't exist today. You should at least be grateful for that, but you're not. Instead, you decide to hate us, simply because we've managed to achieve things that you'll never be able to. I bet a historian could produce a list longer than the Old Testament, of all the things we've done for this world. I also find it funny how Argentinians always love to try and say that we've done nothing but brought violence to this world, alongside corruption, war and slavery. Guess what?? Dozens of nations did a lot worse before us, so get over it. Stop with all this petty squabbling, sort out the mess you've brought upon yourselves by voting in a political reject, then argue at how 'great' your nation supposedly is compared to ours.
And just for the record, gun crime's a seriously minor issue in the UK, unlike SA and even the US.
79 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:52 pm Report abuse

More stable? I can tell you 100% my country will exist in 2014.

Can you? hahahaha.

Respect for other countries? You mean like this?

“... Tony Blair and Jack Straw brushed aside repeated warnings from Government lawyers that they would not have a 'leg to stand on' if Britain invaded Iraq.

Devastating evidence at the Iraq inquiry yesterday revealed that every senior legal adviser at the Foreign Office believed the conflict was in breach of international law.

Astonishingly, Downing Street asked lawyers to assess what the consequences would be if Britain toppled Saddam Hussein without legal authority. When they received the lawyers' memo, No.10 demanded: 'Why has this been put in writing?'

Sir Michael Wood, then the Foreign Office's senior legal adviser, warned ministers again and again that to go to war without approval from a UN Security Council resolution would constitute a 'crime of aggression' in international law.

He told them it risked turning into a foreign policy disaster on the scale of Britain's ill-fated invasion of Suez in 1956.

Less than two months before the Iraq War began in 2003, Sir Michael told ministers there was 'no doubt' that Britain could not lawfully use force against Iraq because it could not claim it was acting in self-defence, that it was trying to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe or that it had the authorisation of the UN...”

I've never argued “greatness” of my country compared to anyone. Please by all means show me where I've said “my country did this yours didn't”. I only remind you all of the uncomfortable truth, that you are liar and hypocrites when talking shit about Argentina's international “misdeeds”, when your countries are full of them, to a scale far beyond Argentina's, in both recent and most certainly the past. With and extra 800 years of mistakes.
80 Pirat-Hunter (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
#67 lol I throw the Brits corpses in the ocean but shit don't float, unless you become a fish there is nothing to see.
#71 you sure have a lot of fantasies try selling it to Disney world Argentine don't trade mirror for silver any longer. We support a nuclear defence program in Argentina to protect Argentina from British illegal occupation in Malvinas Argentina. We can settle Malvinas the British way, men to men or men to homos. A stratigycally placed nuclear missiles will trump any right you think UK has over Malvinas Argentina. Its time the English pay back for Hiroshima and nagasaky mass murder.
#72 is that how the austerity meassures and bankrupsy is called now days in USA and UK. Lol it's amazing how the world has degraded everything to hide the real needs, denial is setting everyone up for a rude awakening. Trust me UK and USA are running out of oil to theft and Muslims to kill and killing innocent Muslim women and children will byte them in the arse.
81 THEMan (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:15 pm Report abuse
@79 Tobias you claim to call yourself intelligent, but you cannot read and understand a simple post. That just throws it all out the window if you struggle with such things. I can tell you 100% your country is less than 5 years from an economic collapse, just like every other country. Ours is suffering from a recession. But, since we're not part of the eurozone, we're not nearly as bad as the rest of the membership bloc.
Also if you read my statement, I put into brackets 'not just aimed at you'. I could've made it a little clearer, that it's more to do with the other Argie posters who love to post about the country's 'greatness'. E.g PirateHunter, 2012.
You came up with 'evidence' to disprove my argument about respect for other cultures, however you fail to realise that the politicians do not represent the opinions and views of the British majority, who are indeed multicultural and have been for many years, unlike the xenophobic society. I will point out that so far from all the Argentinians I have personally met, which is quite a lot, I got this impression from them.
Also, the facts tell that even in a worst case scenario, Britain would still be better off by a long shot than any SA country. Any person who has a knack for statistics, and a neutral state of mind, would back this statement.
Finally, no-one can argue with a person like yourself, because YOU, not us, are far from the truth that your country is one stone's throw away from being permanently fucked, which I DON'T want to see happen.
Please read my future posts more carefully before commenting on something that's irrelevant from my point.
82 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:24 pm Report abuse

Do I need to put the youtube of the British women in the trams again, talking about certain jungle animals, or advising tram riders to visit the country of “Negrwrekwica” in a permament fashion.

How about th banana peel tossed at a Brazilian player?

How about the hunting down of a Brazilian man in the subway?

How about the death in custody of another immigrant triggering a week of English cities on fire?
83 mastershakejb (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
Argies defending Cristina and attacking USA/GB are just plain effin nuts, as we can all clearly see ^. Poor bastards, lol and they think we actually read their whole long, retarded responses that are full of wackjob lunacy. And best part is, they think we actually accept the lunacy drivel they spout as something resembling fact.
Loonies, try listening less to Cristina, watching less youtube videos supporting your cracksmoking ideas, and read more NEWS, with facts, numbers, figures, comparisons. ...and if you ever get enough cash together (you won't) try traveling to the greatest nations in the world (the ones you “hate”), to see just how rich life there is. Just don't stay afterwards and join the other millions of illegal immigrants escaping your shithole nation for a far greater one.
84 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:31 pm Report abuse
”try traveling to the greatest nations in the world (the ones you “hate”), to see just how rich life there is”

I don't need a bullet in my craneum to appreciate how rich/precious life is. So no thanks for the invite to your rich man's Mogadishu.
85 yankeeboy (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:36 pm Report abuse
Toby, Can we meet up next time I am in BA? I would love to put a face to the crazy. I will buy your bus ticket. Just tell me where to send it. I will even pay for you to stay in hotel since I know you can't afford one.

BTW I bet I have seen more of your country that you ever will. I have been to every tourist town you have and a lot of horrible places I will never go again. Gualeguaychu just for an example. One of the worst towns I have ever seen and I have been to Bolivia!
86 THEMan (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:37 pm Report abuse
@82 Tobias you've proved one of my earlier theories too. Poor education equates to idiots.
Banana peel tossed at Brazilian- only one I've heard was during a Scotland-Brazil game, thrown by a German ;) .
Mr Menezes was mistaken for someone else, and was shot dead. Nothing to do with racism, and that happens all the time. Just a case of misidentidication.
I don't know if you are talking about the 2011 riots, but they were caused by the death of Mark Duggan, who was shot dead by ARVs for being allegedly possessing a weapon. Duggan lived in a rough area, where reports of violence comes up weekly, sometimes guns. Again, not racism, but the police were at fault for that for poor decision-making.
87 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:41 pm Report abuse
If CFK was really serious abt the Falklands,
She would stand her toy soldiers up in a line, and be counted,

instead of hiding behind South America and the UN .
A threat 8,000 miles away, is better than humiliation 300 miles away .[Again]
88 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:45 pm Report abuse

I'm in school you tard, I can't just drop everything and off I go. And I'm straight anyway.

Gualeguaychu is a dump, so? You think we argie just love all our towns and cities? We are not as blind automatons as Americans, who can't say anything wrong about each other's cities or provinces.


I have a far superior education, in your first language, even if it is my 3rd language. I simply chose not to embarrass the rest of you with my superior English. But I've done it before, and can again. Don't dare me.
89 THEMan (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:50 pm Report abuse
@88 Tobias Again showing your stupidity. I was talking about a lack of education resulting in idiots, like the woman on the train.
Also, no you don't. Only reason you can probably understand us is by using Google Translate, and I think that's called cheating. You haven't embarrassed anyone apart from yourself, so keep it up.
90 briton (#) Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:59 pm Report abuse
we dare you
we dare
91 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:01 am Report abuse
Google translate? Those are your belated aspirations to lenify your envy at my polyglotism, I would be more than happy to engage in French on a real-time platform. Agreed? Simply state the nomenclature of the IM.

Please spare me further ennui. Bottom line, if contributors here circumscribed the scope of their commentary strictly within the purviews of the discussions about the Falklands and the islanders' indefeasible rights to determine their state of affairs, then most of you would be regarded by myself as completely rational contributors.

But many of you have been betrayed by an almost prurient proclivity to troll the Argentines, as a whole and on any topic and theme (not just the “malvinistas”), compelled by an inner, Cimmerian force to redact replies on topics patently beyond your ken (mainly about Argentine history and culture). As a consequence, some of you come across as asinine sciolists, and a few others as jejune, inverecund ultracrepidarians, to whom one merely deigns to vouchsafe perfunctory forbearance at best; and a few others deserving of outright dismissal, spurn, and condign ostracizing. Thes stygian emotions tergiversate your reputation and redound to your shame.

It results in you alienating those Argentines whose opinions may be consonant, precluding fledgling rapprochement that could be nurtured to eventuate irenic denouement between the denizens of both factions in a fantastically distant future. But most importantly, it diminishes your own contributions because when you indite what are either arrantly mendacious apocrypha or irrefragable canards about Argentina, then one is forced to engage in leery percontation, as to whether other asseverations by such individuals are also equally issuable. One may attempt to prescind fact from confabulation, fibs, and lies, but such efforts become anfractuous and ineludibly protract one's time of participation.

Fescennine, furciferous excursives only debouch to scattered atmemoting and public pillory.
92 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:08 am Report abuse
All you guys are arguing with non argentines, you're wasting energy on tit and ph. They're children, even prejudice, especially ph. All they want do do is deter you guys from posting articles, real ones not wikipedia and utube, that shows argentina's death.

77 days tomorrow
93 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:17 am Report abuse

Argentina's death? Are you now a licenced clairvoyant or capable of mantic prediction?

Just because my indited contributions trigger a rebarbative reaction of impotence, there is no need to be crestfallen and welter in a sea of despair and hapless resignation. I may be a martinet of function due to my indefatigable fidelity in always delivering incontrovertible truth and facts, but I am far from procrustean. If you all would evince even a scintilla of ratiotination and proper colloquy, within that first aperçu you would encounter my latitudinarian side.

The unfortunate reality is however, that none of you have attempted this yet. I still hope that one of you will strive for this.
94 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:30 am Report abuse
77 days tomorrow. When is the next debt payment?
95 Zhivago (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:38 am Report abuse
91 Troll
96 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:41 am Report abuse
Yes, to go from a tight or secluded area out into the open wide. What I mean is that fescennine excursives (meaning scurrilous, offensive harangues), at best only end up revealing the person but in a negative way, in public pillory (pillory being the slab of wood where you stick your head and hands as punishment, another wonderful European invention for the good of man).
97 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:52 am Report abuse
Has anyone else noticed a significant syntax change in tit's posts? I thing a new shift and replaced the

Where in the world is the tit troll?
98 Bongo (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:55 am Report abuse
TTT has been reading Psueds Corner in Private Eye again.
99 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:57 am Report abuse

Feckless attempt at urging on your claque.
100 mastershakejb (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:34 am Report abuse
lol, USA could fart or sneeze and destroy Argentina. Weak, pathetic, poor nation.......getting weaker, more pathetic, and poorer, lmfao @ argentina.
You wanna know why Britain and USA haven't bothered pawning your nation yet, argies? It's cause Cristina's doing an EXCELLENT job of destroying your nation for us, free of charge! LOL
101 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:35 am Report abuse
I think it's more like he's been reading....“Big Words Made Easy for Dummies”
That's the memo of the day from asslips to her trolls since she returned from her unsuccessful USA tour for diplomacy.
102 mastershakejb (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:38 am Report abuse
It's clearly a dash of English lessons, two large helpings of Google Translate, and topped with use of online Thesauruses to find the oldest, most antiquated, and largest synonyms he can find for what he's trying to say. Sounds like an effin retard. He doesn't understand that he's trolling/pwning himself when he retards out like that, much like Cristina pwning her own nation when she retards it up.
103 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:39 am Report abuse
Funny, because the USA almost died in 2008 and is still in a coma, and there was not even a blip in ARG.

Compare to 1990 when the USA had a mild recession and Latin America had a full blown debt crisis.

They days of “Latin American catching a flu when they USA sneezed” are long over, the USA is economically too weak now, and losing culture significance fast. I can't remember the last time an American music band made it here.

But thanks for admitting you have been trying for 60 years to destroy us.
104 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:50 am Report abuse
lol, childish TiT, your gov NEEEEEDS US Dollars, dying for them, omg, MUST HAVE! made it illegal for you to trade em, roflmfao
When times get tough for USA, we just lean on the world, as we can print the thing EVERY central bank in the world uses for reserves, the thing EVERY gov in the world uses for foreign/global trade, the thing by which EVERY nation's GDP is measured, and EVERY nation in the world uses to pay interest on sovereign debt

You don't see the big picture YET, because you're an idiot......oh but you will, soon. USA destabilized the middle east by driving up food prices while hurting their growth. We're about to do the same to China. China's growth is falling hard, and their inflation is still fully present, cost of living there is outrageous compared to wages. But before China is destablized...we will destabilize a tiny little insignificant weakling called Argentina.

We did the same thing to Japan decades ago when they were growing too economically successful, we've done the same thing MANY times, to MANY nations. Yours is next, then maybe Brazil, then China for sure. Oh, and we're also gonna PAWN Iran in 2013 oontz m/!
LOL and we didn't TRY to destroy you for 60 years, we pwnd the hell outta you for 60 years straight. Really we just allowed you to do it to yourself, we just gave you a small helping hand sometimes. It has always been NUTCASES just exactly like you TiT that backed corrupt populist leaders that destroyed your country. We mostly sit back and lol
105 kelperabout (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:55 am Report abuse
It is getting closer to becoming a reality. I predicted that within the next few years Argentines will rise up against their dictators and take back democracy. CFK is now firmly on the ropes with few moves left to make before the Argentine population explode. Can't she see that her and her sick cronies who support her are finnished.
It is never too late to educate a people and I believe the power of the internet has been the strongest educational tool available to the average Argentine who at last can see for themselves just what is going on. Their Country what was once a very wealth one has been in serious decline for the past 35 years and 1982 seen them slump so low their leader attacked the Falkland People to try and change the real people thinking. It failed then and the people kicked him out. It is failing again right now only differance this time CFK has no other tricks left to fool her people. Her bluff has been called and she knows it is just a matter of time before she falls.
Falkland Islanders by contrast are doing very well economically and looks set to grow even more in the forseable future. Our people are quietly getting it right while CFK is embarrasing herself every time she speaks.
106 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:01 am Report abuse
So masterblowjob can also Add. Miracles are possible.

Thank you for admitting you are the most morally reprobate nation that exists today. Your jeaolousy and envy causes you to try to bring down other countries, no doubt, but that game can only go for so long.

Don't tell the Chinese you are trying to distabilize them. You see, if you are bringing them down, and they feel is too late to save their ship, funny things happen. Like, ever heard the saying “if I'm going down, I'm taking you with me”?

It's human nature. So I hope you are wrong you are trying to make food expensive in China and stunt their growth. When they realize it, it maybe to late to stop it, but not to late to go to E-trade and call a small “sell order” on 1.1 trillion of your de facto worthless bonds.

Heck, maybe even the Japanese will join in and sell another 1.1 trillion.

Good bye USA... it's military, it's navy, it's airforce, it's industry, everything. Once they hit that sell button, you are on your needs starving in a matter of hours (since you need to borrow every day 40% of your budget).

And with no hope of escape or anyone to turn to, as everyone else would sell as well to try to get something before it's worthless.

Now that sounds like a fun movie. I'll make sure I have my beer and chips stocked up.
107 Anbar (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:17 am Report abuse
“I have a far superior education, in your first language, even if it is my 3rd language. I simply chose not to embarrass the rest of you with my superior English. But I've done it before, and can again. Don't dare me.”

Why not?

It's the best entertainment around these parts and its available 24 x 7 x 365 at no charge too!

108 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:24 am Report abuse
Confirmed: english refs are racists.

LONDON (Reuters) -- Manchester City's Argentine striker Sergio Aguero has accused English referees of against foreign players in Premier League matches.
Aguerosaid home referees treated foreign players differently and were more likely to ignore them on penalty appeals.He also said foreign players were more likely to be punished for penalties that should not be given against them.

His compatriots Pablo Zabaleta and Carlos Tevez both had penalty appeals turned down at Craven Cottage

”There is a little bit of privilege with players who come from that country, but that is normal.

And Aguero's views on Saturday's events, echoed those of Mancini, who was unhappy Fulham were awarded a penalty in the 10th minute when Zabaleta was harshly adjudged to have tripped Fulham's John Arne Riise.

Other incidents involving overseas players caused concern on Saturday.

Chelsea's Brazilian defender David Luiz was booked for diving during his side's 2-1 win at Arsenal, but the Gunners' English defender Carl Jenkinson, who committed an even more blatant dive than Luiz, escaped a booking.

Former Premier League referee Graham Poll, writing in his column in the Daily Mail, also highlighted the problems now facing Uruguayan Luis Suarez, who scored a hat-trick in Liverpool's 5-2 win at Norwich.

In other news, refs going back home after a hard day's work engaging in racism:

Morally superior UK.

109 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:39 am Report abuse
lol, TiT, we live in a system of evolution, sorry you suck at it. USA is the best at it, UK was the former best, and still one of the greatest. Your nation sucks at evolution.
No such thing as morals.
Win, or lose, that's all. Argentina's losing, so you complain about the game, about evolution. Well try winning for once, then you won't complain, Argentina wasn't complaining about evolution/the game/the system in 1940 when it was rich. Try success, you'll like it, try gettin you a little taste of it for the first time in your miserable existence.
110 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:43 am Report abuse

You mean like the USA wasn't complaining about free trade, immigrants, Asians or Europeans before 2008?

Ever since then, free trade is unfair, the Asians cheat the USA, immigrants are evil, the Europeans are responsible for our problems, middle eastern countries are bastards for charing us so much for oil, etc, etc.

When oil was cheap, Europe was no problem, the Asians provided cheap labor, and the USA had free reign ond free trade, I heard none of that.

So you are right, you weren't complaining even a few years ago... now? lol, Every day the USA is crying about some country.
111 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:45 am Report abuse
lol, you're just an angry nutcase who has never tasted success, and your jealousy is killing you.
112 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:48 am Report abuse
You can't admit it but you know what I said is true. USA used to want to sign free trade with everyone, now they want to get out of all of them hahahaha, I guess you are not too happy with evolution now jajajajajaja
113 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:49 am Report abuse
no, like everything you said, it was totally inaccurate.
Jealous nutter, go get some money and stop jellin on those of us who have it
114 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:50 am Report abuse
I don't need money to be happy. You need money not to blow your brains out, but you still do, every day.
115 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:57 am Report abuse
lol, yea...i blow my brains out every day, u sure are a nutcase. You clearly aren't happy, complaining on here all day.
#1 most complaining, protectionist nation in the world : Argentina
Guess we see who the complaining losers are.

You know the worst part about traveling the REST of Latin America? Having to put up with all the masses of poor Argentine “artesanians” begging for change in the streets and annoying everyone with their complaining. These street urchains make trash from bits of string and then try to sell it, then they sleep under bridges and such....they're escaping the horrible Argentine economy. It's a very telling sign of what they're all running away from.
116 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:00 am Report abuse
Yes, we believe you, the streets of Latin America full of argentines, from El Salvador to Peru, Venezuela to Chile, Bolivia to Costa Rica, all th artesans are desperate argies... hahahahahaha. The more you spew the more you ennoble us argentines.

Why would I ever leave Mendoza for good when the city is overwhelmed with drunken ex-pats!
117 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:03 am Report abuse
No, they very rarely ever make it to Costa Rica or El Salvador. Most of them turn around once they reach Colombia.
And hell, I'd leave Mendoza to sell trash on the streets of another country.......if it got me away from Argentina and their current currency controls and tax system. At least then I wouldn't be a slave to Queen UglyPsycho.
118 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:07 am Report abuse

Yes, because argentine perform peripatetic emigration, hahahaha. You do actually know that in all of Latin America argentines (those few that emigrate to other countries in the region), tend to rise to the top of the society becoming broadcasters, designers, chefs, models, etc! In all countries we make more money than the natives.

In fact the same thing in the USA!! Argentines and Cubans make more money than the average American hahahah!

With all these drunkene ex-pats coming to live here helping to fuel a real estate boom especially in the southern suburbs and in Tupungato, I have no reason of leaving civilization and going to some smelly, overcrowded country where you may dwell haha
119 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:09 am Report abuse
lol, u spout such nonsense. According to you, the sky is red, you say its fact, cause you saw it on a youtube video, or cause you want it to be.
And now money IS important to you, success is important.....only when compared to other poor Latin Americans, lol. You are a fuckin nutcase. Have fun rambling to yourself your supposed “facts” you heard on some video of Cristina the lying nutcase.
120 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:12 am Report abuse
Not important to me personally, important to those who seek it as status.

When in Mendoza, you don't worry about money you just enjoy living in a clean, non-smelly, not overcrowded city with all the conveniences of the “1st world” minus the psychotic life of mass shootings and terrorism! And with the good things of Argentina without the bad excesses of the cities in the east.

Paradise, and the ex-pats and other argies vote with their feet, and flock to it.
121 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:15 am Report abuse
lol dude, I've been to Mendoza, you haven't been to where I was raised. Mendoza's a shithole. It's nice compared to the northern half of Argentina, but shit compared to Bariloche or El Calafate. And mega doodoo compared to anywhere along the east, west, or north parts of USA. Hell, even our worst parts (the midwest and south) are better than Mendoza, by far.
122 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:27 am Report abuse
Mendoza is paradise compared to 95% of American cities, which smell, are full of random garbage in the streets, their downtowns are dead zones sorrounded by shanties that would ashame Brazilians, and where to find a tree you need a search party of three military batallions. And no water, anywhere. Just concrete, even the sidewalks. Grey, smelly, dangerous lairs. No public transport to speak of, to find a bus (much less mass transit on rails), is virtually non-existent. No cafe life, no children out playing, nothing.

That's a city, not your cookie-cutter asphalt deserts with a couple of glass towers you call “cities”. So beautiful anyone with half a cent moved far far away from them to some isolated suburb where you never meet your neighbors.

hahahaha, pathetic. Mendoza pwns all US cities but perhaps the top 10
123 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:31 am Report abuse
wow, u r fuckin NUTS dude! smoking METH and crack at the same time!
anyway, enjoy your failed state
and enjoy rambling your nonsense to yourself, no point talking to you, you're a certifiable fucking nutcase, belong in insane asylum.....but in third world countries crazies like you are allowed to just roam around, without proper medicine or institutions
124 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:36 am Report abuse

I bet you don't live in a city proper either. You know better than to reside in such a sad locale. You ran away like all other Americans to the 'burbs'.

Mendoza's downtown (the whole city really), make a beat down out of most American cities in livable quality, which is why its filled with sad flukes like you trying to get away from your paradise. I think Mendoza has more expats per pound than BA even. Too many ruining my quality of life. lol
125 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:38 am Report abuse
sure thing nutcase, keep telling yourself while not traveling USA, so you don't really know. Wouldn't want to find out the TRUTH! truth = scary to argentines, better to just keep telling yourself what you want to believe
126 Ayayay (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:39 am Report abuse
Hahahahaha SOMEONE has found the hidden online dictionary.

Score 1 for the troll! for being as funny as the brits this time.*marks 1*

I am grateful to the Argentines for RAINING money on the U.S. economy, but I'll be fine if they calmed down a little, trying to keep things affordable:
127 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:42 am Report abuse

I don't need to go to the USA, I see the pictures people that go take, and of the ex-pats who tell me that in their cities everything is made of asphalt, and there are no trees, no outdoor cafes, no shade, no life in the city (except New York and maybe a couple of others).

Mendoza's mass transit with the electric buses (2nd in size in the Americas), and the new metro beats the crap out of all but maybe 10 US cities that have subway proper or light rail.

And we still have the best urban freeways (they are free) in Argentina along with BA.

A third world hellhole beating most US cities in transportation, forget about trees, parks, shade and city life hahahaha. Sad but true.
128 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:43 am Report abuse
lol Miami, one of the most third world, broken down parts of USA. Where all the poor third world immigrants go. Only places in USA worse than Miami are Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama, and maybe Indiana.
129 mastershakejb (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:45 am Report abuse
oh yea, and Detroit too ^
130 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:47 am Report abuse
So, cheating your turns by using multiple nicks huh? So where is the outrage from the Brits when I had two nicks?

And guess what, when I promised that I would VOLUNTARILY desist from using my other account, I did, FOR GOOD. Even though I still have the power to use it. That is the word of a MAN.

Something brits and americans know little about.
131 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:49 am Report abuse
“I don't need to go to the USA, I see the pictures people that go take, and of the ex-pats who tell me”
lol, my point exactly! You are ignorant, I am not. I've traveled your city and country, you haven't traveled mine.
BTW, expats from first world nations are insane and rejected by their own society. So you're talking to nutcases, but that's perfect, since you're also one.
What kind of person leaves friends and family to move to a poorer country? Only the kind that can't make/keep/maintain friendships and familial relations. They're called nutcases, of which you're one.
132 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:51 am Report abuse
Try again. This time, gather your thoughts.
133 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:54 am Report abuse
Try again Argentina. This time try to go a whole decade without defaulting.
134 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:02 am Report abuse
The USA is the serial defaulter of the last 5 years, with more companies, banks, and federal agencies defaulting than anywhere else.

And a ton more would have defaulted if it wasn't for bailouts, and government support.

USA... #1 Deadbeat #1 #1
135 Ozgood (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:05 am Report abuse
42 2012 (#)

What you have written applies to many other countries and not just Argentina, a country that has a very troubled history.

The world is in a mess caused by greedy bankers. Think of the mess that Greece is in, for example. CFK is reelected because of her populist policies. There is no social security blanket in Argentina and once a person loses his/her job there is nothing to fall back upon.

What I would like to know is why Chile, a country which had a violent past from 1975 till 1990, is now largely stable.
136 mastershakejb (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:22 am Report abuse
lol idiot TiT, no banks in USA defaulted. Shows how little you know.
They're all backed by the Fed, their debts were upheld.
Meanwhile, the entirety of Argentina, from its companies to banks to the gov itself, default all the time, regularly, like a girl getting her period
137 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:28 am Report abuse
Ozgood, the reasons why Chile's doing so much better than Argentina:
They don't blame others for their problems.
They understand they have to work, it's strongly ingrained in Chileans. (argentines hate work, they just wanna protest)
They don't start foreign wars.
They're friendly with the West, and friendly towards foreign investors.
138 Ayayay (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:02 am Report abuse
You only forgot Mississippi.
All those, plus oil-wealthy Texas are the ones that vote for wars. :/

Radicalized Latino Republicans who fled socialism to Miami gave the U.S. election to George Bush Jr.

I like: Obama & Ron Paul! They both have IMPRESSIVE integrity. Ron Paul = peace and freedom.
Obama ended Iraq.
Yet he was there when Afghanistan called for help. 70% of Afghani men polled WANTED U.S. security to protect them from THEIR rednecks.

And he's exiting Afghanistan better than the Soviet Union did in the 80s. Now that it's secure, they've been able to secure a lot of investment from China.
139 GastonBaires (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:24 am Report abuse
48, 56 yankeeboy. Oh ok, You mean like the UK!!!
140 LightThink (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:55 am Report abuse
CFK articles are the Mercopress orgasm tool for many commentators people who swarming here.
141 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 10:45 am Report abuse
Looks like Toby met his match.
142 GastonBaires (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 10:54 am Report abuse
Congratulations Toby and Yankeeboy! I think this is great!!!
You can make your equal marriage here in Argentina!
Cheers guys!
143 DanyBerger (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 10:55 am Report abuse
@ Ozgood & co

You just have broken my b with your stupid comparison with Chile and Argentina.

There is nothing to compare with because Chile is 50 years behind Argentina and always will be.

It’s like to compare Germany with Romania

In fact Argentina poverty is imported from neighbouring countries.

Argentina should send them back to enjoy stable economy success in their own countries.
144 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 11:27 am Report abuse
I don't have sex with maids or gardeners even if they have passable English. Thanks for the offer though. All my love!
145 kelperabout (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 11:57 am Report abuse
You Know for a small Island community we certainly can make the commentators on this site look rediculous. You might wonder why. Well it is because we have been better educated than those Argentine masses. Not entirely their fault because they have to do as they are told.
No freedom of speech,
No democracy.
No Commen sense.
No respect for their neighbours.
No chance of ever changing our wishes.

Every time your leader opens her mouth she digs a deeper hole.
Why! Because she hasn't got a clue about the history of the Falkland or its people. That she is so blinded by greed she can't even see the damage she is inflicting on her own people.

Yet dispite that those uneducated ones commenting on here think she knows it all and as a result has deluded their minds as well.
There is help out there for you though. The Islanders have some really good therapysts that given the right oppertunity could heal your hatred towards us.

On reflection nice thought but never likely to happen
146 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:34 pm Report abuse

You corrupt porteño de ley, last I checked it was yankeebrokeback who offered to pay my tickets to meet him and he wanted to see my face. Typical internet predator tactic, by I told him I'm straight.


“...You Know a small Island community we certainly can make the commentators on this site look rediculous. You might wonder why. Well it is because we have been better educated than those Argentine masses...”


Can't make this stuff up. Better educated... hahahaha. My canine tooth has better vocabulary than all the Falklanders put together.
147 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
Toby, Every one here knows you are obsessed with shoe know what that means don't you?

BTW Thanks again but I don't sleep with servants.
148 DanyBerger (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:54 pm Report abuse

Sorry mate but if wouldn’t be for Argentina and England you will not exist.

None cares about Romania, none cares about Greece, no one cares about Chechnya, most people cannot point in the map Scotland and most never have remotely heard about Wales.

You will only dream to be 10 percent educated like the Argentineans.

Burkina Faso is most popular than you and I cannot even know if I spelled in the right way.

Just a shitty hole in nowhere...
149 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
The education in argentina is so good she sent her little bitch to the USA for schooling. Besides.....what would tits no about the inferior education of argentina, you don;t even live there. BTW, they are being held hostage by children in Buenos Aires , seems the police are overwhelmed by the children.
150 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:57 pm Report abuse

As far as I recall I've only talked about it in any detailonce, months ago when a chilean member said argentine girls have big feet compared to chilean girls. I think it it strange YOU remember tha specifically t since I've talked about everything here from black holes to European history, from patagonian jabali and other argentine cuisine to of course, far more often, languages and vocabulary (which is my obsession and everyone here knows it).

The only servant you possess is the slave labor of your left or right hand on those weekend nights. Leftie or righty for Manuela?
151 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:03 pm Report abuse
I remember everything.
'm married so please stop asking.
Plus I don't like servants or children.
152 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:15 pm Report abuse

Married? Did he win the Nobel Prize for patience?

Oh that's right, your country represses gays. Has she won the Nobel Prize for patience?
153 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:25 pm Report abuse
Yes, luckily I found someone that has a lot of patience. I was very lucky.
I am surprised your parents haven't smothered you yet.
Do you lie awake worrying about it?
I would if I were you.
154 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:34 pm Report abuse

Why would they do that? I am the most understanding, compassionate, and tolerant person you ever meet. The only think I hate/abominate more than intolerance, ruthlessness, and ignorance is foreigners.
155 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:40 pm Report abuse
Same here, filthy south americans are the absolute worst.
156 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:45 pm Report abuse
Good thing we argentines are not South American.



USA, UK give in to their inner true feelings and demonstrate their admiration of Argentina and want to imitate it at all costs!

There is only one pink house the entire world will ever recognize. These poor imitations are flattering but just that, little brothers wanting to be like their more sophisticated sibling.
157 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
Argentinians are the worst South Americans because you think are not part of them but alas you are, there are RG doctors, lawyers and engineers cleaning pools and bathrooms in Miami making more than in their professions back home. A lot more.
158 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
13 peso's a day (2.75 U$ dollars) and Indec says you are not poor in argentina. No wonder the working middleclass are seen as rich and hated by asslips.
159 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:02 pm Report abuse
Hahahaha, you actually believe them when they tell you that they are radiologists and pediatricians. How gullible of you.

There are american and european bartenders in the wine bars of mendoza and one of them I met, she was an oceanographer, another a psychologist. Can't find jobs. And of course then all thos brits and yanks trying to set up their English-teaching schools... lol. My english teacher at school was a crazy New York Jets fan, the whole classroom was green though only I knew what the whole thing was about.

Lots of fun with these anglo immigrants in Mendoza.
160 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
You are correct tit....there are American bartenders in rgland. My friends is one, but he also happens to own the bar and curses everyday he decided to do business in Buenos Aires.
161 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
Nobody from the Northern Hemisphere goes to Argentina to make Pesos. They are either retired or kids living off savings or parents.
But Rgs are definitely here scrubbing,raking and skimming.
162 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:37 pm Report abuse
I wouldn't class him as someone that went to to make money, but he owns a fairly well known bar there.
163 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
I almost bought a restaurant in BA. I am so glad I liquidated everything though. I may buy a house in BA province when the market bottoms. I can put some relatives there to watch it and use it when I go back. I had the prettiest quinta when I lived there and I want it back!
164 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
He's kinda stuck there. He said it's the most corrupt place to do business....always having to pay someone one for inspections, permits , licenses. He can't even sell the bar without taking a bath now.
165 THEMan (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
@159 Tobias I (again) loved your repeated use of Google Translate and probable thesaurus use. Also, I'd like to point out that just because you like to use 'advanced' grammar, doesn't mean you understand the English language. There's a LOT more to it. You have to read texts, read books from English authors, research the culture behind the country. That goes for all languages. If you want to understand the language, first you have to understand the background of it.
Anyway, you still don't seem to understand that the US (although I dislike them) still have a lot of influence in SA business, although Argentina seems to be making a hash of trying to get economic growth by pushing them away.
Lastly, Argentinian people are also classed as South Americans (as all other countries on the continent) , as they, of course, live there and were born there.
166 ProRG_American (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
Read something interesting this AM in a world Navy magazine. Argentine DM Puricelli will be traveling to Germany early next year to discuss modernixation of the MEKO ships. Let's see, that's 10 of them. How many “Dauntlesses” will you have?
167 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
Cap, That is why I didn't buy the restaurant. You have to pay EVERYONE up to the Mayor, or you will get robbed, burned down, no garbage picked up, mugged, protested, closed down for violations even when there aren't any, etc etc etc. It is a racket and unless you are politically connected you are screwed. Especially if you are a foreigner. That is why you have to make as much as possible when the times are good and “your” party is in power because you'll lose it all next time the gov't changes.
168 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:02 pm Report abuse
Yea , he said he thought it was bad in Jersey, but nothing compared this BA
169 ProRG_American (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:05 pm Report abuse
Britain, be like Argentina. Do as Kirchner did.
170 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:25 pm Report abuse
Oh man....not again!!!!
171 agent999 (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:51 pm Report abuse
@166 @169
172 mastershakejb (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 06:11 pm Report abuse
2 dollars a day in Argentina (unofficial and CORRECT exchange rate)
And Cristina sent her minibitch Florencia to USA schools, Argentine schools not good enough.

lol 2 dollars a day is basically what the world EXTREME poverty line is, lol even africans livin better than argies these days
173 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
-poverty line in Argentina: 2 US Dollars a day

-global EXTREME poverty line according to UN and World Bank: 1.25 US Dollars a day

-poverty line in USA: 30 US dollars per day

LOL! poverty line in USA = FIFTEEN times wealthier than Argentine
LOL poverty line in Arg is the same as Africa, and same as global EXTREME poverty
174 briton (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 06:54 pm Report abuse
Great show at the local asylum theatre last night,
[We want to rule the word]
By CFK .
She has the trolls, she has her devotees , and her immortals ,
Indocronoughts are amass, south America, china north Korea ,
Even hypnotised Obama ,
Yep the world is her oyster,

Great show,
Especially, when her plastic started to run, in the heat.
That’s what dreams of glandular are made off,

83 days four hours to xmas

89 days to the Mayan prophesy..

175 Also Add (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
-poverty line in Argentina: 2 US Dollars a day

-global EXTREME poverty line according to UN and World Bank: 1.25 US Dollars a day

-poverty line in USA: 30 US dollars per day

LOL! poverty line in USA = FIFTEEN times wealthier than Argentine
LOL poverty line in Arg is the same as Africa, and same as global EXTREME poverty
176 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 07:47 pm Report abuse
“What do you do when the city where you live is dying? All over the United States formerly great cities are crumbling, but some are definitely in worse shape than others. One reader recently wrote to me about what she sees happening all around her in Reno, Nevada. The unemployment rate in Reno is now up to 11.7 percent, which is well above the national average of 8.3 percent. But even though the labor force is now nearly 20 percent smaller, the unemployment rate is still well above 11 percent. There simply are not enough jobs in large Nevada cities such as Reno and Las Vegas. Even today, some housing developments that were put up near the end of the boom times look like virtual ghost towns. Nevada has the fifth highest suicide rate in the nation, gangs have moved in and the drug trade is flourishing. Reno has been called the meth capital of America, and crime is on the rise. On Reno resident said:
”As a lifelong Renoite, I am inclined to respond to these lists with defiance. Yeah, things can look pretty grim sometimes when no one can find a job, and there seems to be no way out.“

And that is how many Americans are feeling these days. They are broke, unemployed, depressed and out of options.

How can you pick up and start a new life somewhere else when you have no job and no money?

Sadly, a lot of younger Americans are turning to drugs in an attempt to escape the pain of their daily lives. Crime is is no longer falling in America. More than 80% of Americas said the country is on the wrong track for 6 years in row now, and all-time record.

Most say the American dream is no longer real.

Reno is far from alone. Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore are completely falling apart as well. This kind of thing is literally happening from coast to coast. Many cities and states will go broke in the next few years.

Real unemployment is over 17%. One recent study found that 46 percent of all Americans die with less than $10k worth of financial assets.

What happened?”
177 2012 (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 07:58 pm Report abuse
@175= Add another UK Team rubbish bloody english people = CRAP

26 millons USA citizens living below poverty levels don't have a... $900.oo dollars monthly income...
some USA citizens receives $774.00 social security retirement not enough to survive the high cost of living.
Such amount is not enough to pay the 20% that Medicare Health services do not cover.
Such amount is not enough to pay the $30.00 food cost on daily basis.
Such amount is not enough to pay electric/water/trash collection/property tax is they own a house.
Such amount is not enough to pay $65.oo telephone cost, cable and/or internet fees.
Such amount is not eough to pay car insurance, car repairs and gasoline.

Consequently, your comment is simply absurd!......

Argentina don't have people starving to death like the African countries....

The USA economy is suffering continued recessions after recessions . Because of the “food stamp” President Obama administration , the economy has worsen making millons of USA citizens to suffer hunger, illness and feel depressed without having any hope for the future...

24 millons USA citizens collecting $800.00 per month unemployment insurance cannot pay a $650.00 rent at Arbour Park Apts, Tempe, AZ.USA.

or pay $30.00 @ day for 3 meals.

47 millons USA citizens collecting “food stamps” needs the govermental assistance of $200.00 per month to buy food because their income is not enough to buy food.
178 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
The following are 21 facts about America's failing infrastructure that will blow your mind...

#4 Approximately one-third of all roads in the United States are in substandard condition.

#5 Close to a third of all highway fatalities are due “to substandard road conditions, obsolete road designs, or roadside hazards.”

#6 One out of every four bridges in America either carries more traffic than originally intended or is in need of repair.

#9 All over America, asphalt roads are being ground up and are being replaced with gravel roads because they are cheaper to maintain. The state of South Dakota has transformed over 100 miles of asphalt roads into gravel roads, and 38 out of the 83 counties in the state of Michigan have transformed at least some of their asphalt roads into gravel roads.

#10 There are 4,095 dams in the United States that are at risk of failure. That number has risen by more than 100 percent since 1999.

#11 Of all the dam failures that have happened in the United States since 1874, a third of them have happened during the past decade.

#12 Close to half of all U.S. households do not have access to bus or rail transit.

#16 All across the United States, conditions at many of our state parks, recreation areas and historic sites are deplorable at best. Some states have backlogs of repair projects that are now over a billion dollars long....

#20 The World Economic Forum ranks U.S. infrastructure 23rd in the world, and we fall a little bit farther behind the rest of the developed world every single day.

#21 It has been projected that it would take 2.2 trillion dollars over the next 5 years just to repair our existing infrastructure. That does not even include a single penny for badly needed new infrastructure.

Where did we go so wrong??
179 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 08:12 pm Report abuse
CFK's new face lift......freaking amazing!!!
180 2012 (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
@179 Conqueror/Captain Poppy= same rubbish bloody english WIMP

There is nothing wrong having a face lift.....

.....who wants to look old like...... the UK Queen......, Prince Charles......, Camila...., Prince Andrew....., Prince Harry..... (bold head)..
....take a look at their FACES....

181 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 08:40 pm Report abuse
Look at the pic! Give me your phone number sussie so I can call you and give you my address.
182 Pugol-H (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
@71 Truth_Telling_Troll
An Argentinian child born in in Antarctic is an “Indigenous Antarctican”!

How does this help Argentina’s claim if the child is not even Argentinian.

Indigenous Antarcticans born in British territory would be entitled to the protection of the crown, think about it!

“People who live there”, particularly liked that statement, military personnel (or Civilians) doing a tour of duty (then back to the world, man!) in the most uninhabitable place on the planet, do not constitute a population, never mind an indigenous one.

Their called “military personnel” not “a population”, who do you think you’re kidding.

The division of the Artic did not “open the door for massive lawsuits by natives in the Americas, Australia, Africa, ect” why would the Antarctic?

The British are already in Antarctica under our own flag and with our military, arrived long before Argentina did, as you point out.

Argentina and Chile can still have Antarctic territories, in the as yet unclaimed part of Antarctica.

But not in British Antarctic Territory, that is already taken.

@177 Sussie
If things are that bad over there, why don’t you F*ck off back to Argentina then.

I am sure the US would not miss you nearly as much as you would miss the comfort of living in the US.

You could still hate the “bloody old rubbish English people” from Argentina, be quite at home in fact.
183 briton (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
perhaps, as some has suggested,
the United states , Europe And the UK.
should stop all aid to other countries,
no help , and keep our own money, for our own people.

sounds logic..
184 THEMan (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:15 pm Report abuse
@178 Tobias pretty interesting quote I found about Argentina and it's 2001 DEFAULT (sorry I have to LOL).
”This year, however, the government has the opposite problem. Its growth figures are already perkier than many private forecasts (though the economy is now generally believed to have touched bottom). And there is another complication: if growth exceeds 3.3 per cent, Argentina must pay GDP warrants that were issued as part of its debt restructuring after its 2001 default on nearly $100bn.“
Another on possible corruption:

”Full details are not yet known – Hernán Lorenzino, the economy minister, is due to unveil it in Congress on Thursday. But the government has earned a reputation for fancy footwork in its budget figures in recent years, deliberately understating growth to obtain a windfall that can be distributed at will.”

Our country is clearly in a better state than yours, and can also survive recession. Hope you find these interesting
185 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
Sounds perfect logic briton. Kills me to know we still send millions to argentina. USA has infrasture issues, but by argentine standards would be considered 1A.
I would get the fuck out of my country is it is so bad as she claims it to be, but she does not live there. She has to makes these statements so the dumb argentines that support asslips kirchner do not feel so bad. No American believes the shit she shovels. Some things there are true, some are portions that don't tell a SSA is only meant as a supplement to retirement. We're not socialists and these dumb fucks do not understand that. My retirement benefit would only be 2800 and I don't expect to live on that when I retire....I funded my own with my employer. Geez....26 million out of 316 million......not bad compared to the 30% of argentines living on 12 pesos a day according Indec
186 yankeeboy (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:30 pm Report abuse
Cap, It is because they've never been here> Every single Rg friend I bring to NYC or DC is shocked at how beautiful, clean, modern it is and they always say the same “They have no idea” meaning Rgs are brainwashed at birth to think BA is the most beautiful, cosmopolitan city in the world And if you compare it to La Paz or Caracas it most certainly is nicer than those...but then again that is not saying much!
Other than the people, the dog poop, garbage, traffic, muggers,litter and noise BA is a great place to visit.
187 2012 (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
@ 183 Briton Jack the Ripper
@185 Conqueror / Captain Poppy
= rubbish bloody english WIMPS....

Read the news....even Russia rejected USA loans from the International Development Agency.....

The country that needs money to keep AFLOAT is the United States of America...see the USA DEBT CLOCK .....TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC........

Come on Conqueror/Captain Poppy ....why don't you post your suggestions for “your country” pay the 15 TRILLON DEBT to foreign countries?....
ah! No get lost.... UK rubbish bloody WIMP
188 Pugol-H (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:40 pm Report abuse
@187 Sussie
Sussie, darling, you keep leaving me (Pogal-Z) out of your list, have I said something to upset you?
189 ProRG_American (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:59 pm Report abuse
Chile is not behaving. Spank! Spank!
190 briton (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 10:12 pm Report abuse
whynot close ya mersy tunnel,
the fumes a bit cloudy.
all the west should stop giving money to those who in the end turn on us.

sod em all,
191 mastershakejb (#) Oct 02nd, 2012 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
lol TiT doesn't know what facts are, it simply spouts totally absurd rubbish as though it were fact, as as though we even slightly believe any of it.
Here's some FACTS for you though:
-poverty line in Argentina: 2 US Dollars a day

-global EXTREME poverty line according to UN and World Bank: 1.25 US Dollars a day

-poverty line in USA: 30 US dollars per day

LOL! poverty line in USA = FIFTEEN times wealthier than Argentine
LOL poverty line in Arg is the same as Africa, and same as global EXTREME poverty
192 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 12:23 am Report abuse
He also does not know the reality in argentina because he does not live there. He's an overseas troll, and a child at that.
193 briton (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 09:51 am Report abuse
A holiday troll,
194 Zhivago (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 11:34 am Report abuse
187 Schizo
Why do you care Sussie, you live in B.A.
195 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 12:24 pm Report abuse
Uniforms are getting restless in argentina:
196 yankeeboy (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
Toby, The frigate LIbertad was just seized by the holdouts while in Africa.
I guess you DO still owe the $ and will eventually have to settle up.
197 Simon68 (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
SissieUS, why do you ask Conqueror and Captain Poppy: “why don't you post your suggestions for “your country” pay the 15 TRILLON DEBT to foreign countries?” if you insist that they are “ rubbish bloody english WIMPS...”

If they are both Brits why the hell should they worry about the US Debt Clock!!!!

198 Conor J (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 03:25 pm Report abuse
It's because she is stupid.
199 2012 (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 03:37 pm Report abuse
@197 Simon68=Zhivago=ChrisR.....same chinese claiming residing in Tierra del Fuego......
@ 198 Conor J
These comments again are answered by Isolde=Ynesere-ly=Skare.........

If Conqueror/Captain Poppy and the rest of the UK TEAM are ALL BRITISH...
200 THEMan (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
@199 2012 We just need to put you guys in your place, when it comes to 'being the better country' , which we are in terms of business and society.
You guys love to start crap and attack our economic situation to deflect attention from your shitty mess. That's why
201 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
Anyone brave enough to look at asslips kirchner without makeup? The woman BK slaves over:
202 2012 (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
I repeat, my 2 countries, Argentina and the USA are having the worst economic times...continue insults made to the argentine leader, Argentina and argentinians is NOT A SOLUTION.
The UK Team needs to stay away.....mind your own country: the UK,
your indecent “Royals”
and your rubbish bloody english people.
@ 201 Conqueror/Captain Poppy= same UK WIMP
how about YOU NAKED....with all that fat hanging around your waist,
----- eggplant size old testicles hanging with a dead sardine size of penis....
203 THEMan (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 05:14 pm Report abuse
@202 2012 Too bad I'm Scottish. By the way, what's your obsession with the size of someone's penis? You do this on every article on MercoPress.
And the Royals aren't my royals. My royals ended at King James, when he became King of Both England and Scotland.
Improve your grammar, and stop contradicting yourself, then go see a councilor about your penis nightmares
204 Pugol-H (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
Envy, penis envy.
205 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
2012 sussie makes the most assinine statements
206 mastershakejb (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
I don't believe they actually qualify as “statements”, more like verbal farts, or mouth farts if you will.
207 briton (#) Oct 03rd, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
he / she / him / them /
cheap batteries,
208 2012 (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
@205 Conqueror/Captain Poppy=same WIMP UK ARSE

all the United Kingdom people are known as Rubbish Bloody English people all around the WORLD!..
Is not my fault!
Accept the fact, the english people are rubbish bloody english people...
209 MaxAue (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 04:58 pm Report abuse
Join in everybody
210 2012 (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 06:04 pm Report abuse
@ 209 MaxAue
so what?
I placed my comments in the Economist...
specially about Prince Harry bare arse
and Prince William's wife thin tits...thin lips...and 1/2 vagina neck...
So far, no one from the UK team dares to remove my comments from the Economist....
I also found in the internet a comment saying the UK Queen Elizabeth II for Nothing ” is BLACK.....jajjaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
you see...
the rubbish bloody english people likes to talk about CRAP!
211 mastershakejb (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 07:24 pm Report abuse LOL
212 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
Looks like asslips is not going to pay.....I suppose NYC harbor will be her next port of call. He should rename her ....Default.....or Deadbeat.
213 2012 (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 09:18 pm Report abuse
@ 212 Conqueror/Captain Poppy=same UK WIMP
China owns the USA....are you doing something for your “country”
214 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
Yes....I volunteered to skipper the Libertad back to the Port of New York for Paul Singer bahahahahahahahaha
215 2012 (#) Oct 04th, 2012 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
@214 Conqueror/Captain Poppy=same UK WIMP

Your comment don't make sense.
Last night “food stamps” USA Obama stated the USA is BROKE!
The economic situation here in the USA is worst than in Argentina!
216 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 05th, 2012 - 12:07 am Report abuse
looks like children are taking over buenos
217 ynsere (#) Oct 07th, 2012 - 07:11 pm Report abuse
So CFK's image in Argentina is plunging? So is Argentina's image in Uruguay.
218 Ayayay (#) Oct 07th, 2012 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
'Americans' spend the smallest
percentage of their income on food than any country in the world.

#2 is Singapore!
219 kelperabout (#) Oct 08th, 2012 - 12:51 am Report abuse
Argentina is not in a very good political position right now and her people are beginning to rise up against CFK and her corupt government.
I see the Argentine economy colapsing every day. Yet there are some who refuse to believe it. Wake up it is real and I reckon within the next six months Argentina will be a whole lot worse than it is now.
The Islanders meanwhile are winning respect from major new areas on a regular basis so it would appear that genuine people are listening to us and laughing at CFK.

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