Global editors warn on ongoing campaign in Argentina against independent media
The Global Editors Network (GEN) called on the world’s media to focus attention on a press freedom crisis in Argentina where independent journalism is facing a major threat on 7 December 2012, the day announced by the government for the break-up of the Clarin Group, the country’s main independent media organization.
“7 December is a deadline day for press freedom. Media should speak with one voice against this intolerable threat to independent journalism,” said Alejandro Miro Quesada, the Network Board Member from Peru, after a meeting of the GEN board in Buenos Aires. “The attack on Clarin is symbolic of the political pressure which media are facing throughout the region.”
The GEN call comes at a critical point in the three-year campaign against Clarin Group’s press and audiovisual media by the administration of President Cristina Fernandez and only days after the government took to the airwaves to announce that on 7 December it will revoke its licenses, and take control of its assets under a controversial new media law, which is currently being judicially challenged for its violation of basic constitutional rights.
Although the law is supposed to strengthen diversity and pluralism by limiting monopoly ownership of media – and it is a legitimate goal – its critics say it has only one intention – to stifle dissent and, in particular, to dismantle the Clarin Group, which has been a consistent critical voice of the Kirchner government.
It was particularly evident when – on 13 September 2012 – the nation-wide demonstration against the government was deliberately uncovered by official media or media depending on official subsides.
GEN highlights that already more than 450 legal and administrative actions, – as well as blockades, intimidations and other attacks – were brought against the Clarin Group. The number of actions suggests that harassment was the government's strategy.
GEN is also highly concerned that by investing huge amounts in preferential state advertising with medium sized media companies the government has effectively bought itself control of media content.
Now the use of law is seen as a further act of intimidation to keep media in line, even if, according to different international reports, 80% of audiovisual Argentine media are directly or indirectly controlled by the government.
“This crisis for press freedom and democracy will come to a head on 7 December,” said Miro Quesada. Even though it is not yet certain that the government will carry out its threat, the Global Editors Network will be organising an international petition and is calling on media leaders from the region and around the world to voice their protests.
The long-running campaign against the Clarin Group undermines a viable business model that can secure the future of journalism and independent media in Argentina and across Latin America.
Our last word is that what happens today in Argentina can happen in all democracies when governments are willing – through a large range of actions – to limit freedom of expression.
GEN was established in Paris during March 2011, in response to the increasing risks quality journalism faces. GEN is a nonprofit, non-governmental association, committed to the principles of quality journalism, innovation and information sharing in the newsroom. The organization empowers editors-in-chief, senior news executives, and media professionals from all platforms – print, digital, mobile and broadcast – by optimizing GEN’s network base to create new ideas and journalistic tools, allowing quality journalism to thrive. Already, more than 900 editors-in-chief joined GEN.
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Wake up Argentinians, do something now - while you still can!!!
discuss or we can distract and deflect and change the subject
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9602103/HMS-Conquerors-biggest-secret-a-raid-on-Russia.html#
Starts soon!
If the Rgs are dumb enough to let it happen they deserve what they get.
The whole region, surely not?
We have all been told by Guzz, Dunni-Burger and the rest how democratic the Peronistas are!
Another stake in the freedom of AG, but why should we worry, the revolt is on the way by the look of things.
Wait until the choripans and the beer dry up.
Chavez started from the point of a huge section of society having nothing. No healthcare, no education and slave wages. They were easy to manipulate, much in the same way it was easy for Castro to improve the lives of Cubans. Starting from zero it is easy to improve the lives of the poor and disaffected.
Argentines are not so desperate, they have pride and a high opinion of themselves (albeit inflated). They have become poorer, not richer under CFKC and they will continue to become poorer as her unfathomable economic policies wreak havoc. They are not dissimilar to most people in that let things slide until they are personally affected - referred to as 'hapathy' - but they are feeling affected. Now they are looking up and not liking what they see. I say we should encourage them.
www.facebook.com/konchuda.kris
It is sad, this kid speaks Chinese and in the past 10 years has been all over the world.
The Ks have destroyed the quality of life in Argentina
The apathy is astounding and sickening
If these shenanigans were happening in the USA we would have fixed it by now
The BBC is not perfect but its recognized as one of the most impartial news agencies in the world. Not just in Gringoland.
Clarin is developing in the same direction and it is a natural thing to happen in a capitalist economy with a capitalist business.If the state doesn't take some action to ensure a diversity of reporting of information the interests of capitalist owners will be over-represented wont it? Lets play stupid and pretend a capitalist press and media will be impartial,yes.
There are huge difference between the UK and Argentinian media.
In the UK we don't have state run media groups.
In the UK we don't have blanket propaganda broadcasts by our leading political party.
In the UK all our politicians can be interviewed by the press.
You are my favorite Commie. Too bad you can''t show ONE TIME IN HISOTRY WHERE THAT WORKED WELL. But hold onto your values you can't be far from the grave by now anyway.
Too bad you are too stupid to see your country is falling into a Destitute Dictatorship.
www.huffingtonpost.com/hector-timerman/freedom-of-the-press-argentina_b_1958472.html
Though the comments at the bottom and the link to CFK having an orgasm are more interesting.
It doesn't have to be this way for Argentina. Your neighbours are doing OK. Brazil is becoming an economic powerhouse, whilst Argentina decays because the Government is full of idiots & thieves.
The Argentine population needs to wake up and tell CFK she is no longer required. If Argentina then used it's foreign currency reserves to pay the debts it owes to the United States and other countries, then I'm sure they would be able to invest in getting Argentina back on its feet. You have plenty of resources, but sadly the politicians are preventing you from using them.
If only you would set aside your claim on the Falklands, not renounce it - just set it aside, then I'm sure that the Falkland Islanders would trade with you and cooperate to help Argentina exploit the oil reserves. It was a unilateral decision on Argentina's part to end the co-operation with the Islands that started with Menem. Through that short-sighted decision, Argentina has lost out financially.
You need to remove the bitch in the Casa Rosada, before she makes all of you bankrupt and unemployed.
Get it?
I know it is a hard concept but I taught my 5y/o so you should be able to grasp the concept.
Do you think the State should choose who gets to print and show you news and entertainment? Don't you think that is a bad thing? Don't you think they will promote shows that help their positions to keep them in power? Don't you think they will squash news that is harmful to them or their positions?
It is impossible that someone who can type can be this obtuse.
grow up !
Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:55 pm
“Don't we know the concentration of media power has a opposite affect to its freedom.”
Exactly right Yuleno, the kirchneristas have 80% (that is EIGHTY percent) of the country's media in their pocket. The independent media represent 20% (that is TWENTY percent) of media “power”!!!!!!
Now who is nearer to a monopoly, the government or the independent media?????
Whatever you may call it, it has seemed to delay the next revolution but I don't think that's going to work for much longer. All of their unsold goods they have been making to keep people working instead of protesting is about done. Every single bank is insolvant but still required to make loans to cronies. So I think their system, again whatever you want to call it, is near total collapse.
Totalitarianism has the benefit of controlling the population for a pretty long time but I think it has reached the end of the rope both in China and Argentina.
@24 Look at your post...“if the state doesn't take some action to ensure diversity of reporting...” WTF? The state should have nothing to do with reporting. There's a cool concept called Freedom of Speech. It's one of the greatest things in the world. If you ever experienced it, you'd know what I'm talking about.
My point was that China is NEITHER Capitalistic nor Democratic.
On business it is a weird mix of a whole bunch of systems that can't mesh for very much longer.
They are in collapse and they have no idea how to fix it without giving up the State control.
Gonna be interesting.
It is probably the next country I will start to pay attention to after Argentina collapses and my interest is over.
Though, in my experience the default setting of Argentines is to be proud of their country to the point where any criticism is hard for them to take, unless they have travelled and can view their country with more balance. By contrast the default setting of most English people is to be highly critical of their country and government, unless they have travelled and can see how bloody good they have it in comparison to developing countries.
If people want to buy Clarin newspaper they are exercising their right to do so. If you take it away you are taking away their right to choose. Argentines, in general, don't like having their rights taken from them.
Anyone else see that?
Article says:
The ”GLOBAL EDITORS NETWORK” (GEN) called on the world’s media to focus attention on a press freedom crisis in Argentina where the government wants to break-up the CLARIN group…..
I say:
Can anybody here guess who the president of the ”GLOBAL EDITORS NETWORK” (GEN) defending CLARIN is....?
I give you 10 seconds ….......
1.
2..
3…
4….
5…..
6……
7…….
8……..
9………
10……….
And the president of the ”GLOBAL EDITORS NETWORK” (GEN) is….:
Ricardo Kirschbaum,
Editor-in-Chief, Clarin (Argentina)
www.globaleditorsnetwork.org/board-members/
Odd… Don’t you ”Think”?
Just because he is the head of WORLD WIDE RESPECTED ORGANIZATION doesn't mean that media suppression is not happening in Argentina.
One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other.
Do you think the claim could or would be made if it wasn't happening?
Or are you on the
'Clarin Lies
Bandwagon
How disappointing
and
Boring
you would think with the repression in your background you'd be protesting in the streets but No you are too simple to see what is happening
Do you want another Dictator?
Guess so.
Contrary to most Turnips in here, I can and have read the new Media Law (all its 86 pages) due to become effective on December 7'th, 2012.
(www.afsca.gob.ar/ley-de-servicios-de-comunicacion-audiovisual-26-522/)
This new law leans heavily on European jurisprudence and replaces a previous law enacted by the last Argentinean military dictatorship in 1980.
So......, yes I “Think” this new law is a giant leap forward for the freedom and democratization of information in Argentina.
El Think
(all 86 pages)
Go figure.
LA CAMPORA - a semi military style terrorist organization that is led by Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner's son - MaximoKirchner. It is named after former a known Argentine terrorist of the Peronist political party former president Héctor José Cámpora. Although it was established in 2003, it became politically influential after the death and state funeral of Néstor Kirchner. Maximo Kirchner used money that his father Nestor Kirchner left him in his will to further the organization and take part in expropiations of private property, the oil company YPF, which Argentina expropiated (stole) from the government of Spain, and Aerolineas Argentinas also expropiated (stolen) from the government of Spain.
The airline is going to be renamed “Aerocamporas Argentinas” by the end of the year. They have already begun to repaint the logo on the airplanes at a cost of $400,000 US dollars each. La Campora hopes to imitate the terrorist organization to which Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner belonged to when she was younger, called Montoneros. Montoneros was responsable for kidnappings, murders, armed robberies of business owners and members of the opposition government in Argentina during the 1970s. The group vindicates the actions of the guerilla group Montoneros, and thus was named after Héctor José Cámpora, who had favored them. However, most members are too young to know first-hand about the 1970 conflicts in Argentina, but follow their methodologies of state sponsored terrorism. They go into schools and “indoctrinate” children and make them wear La Campora t-shirts, give them reading material and force them to participate in rallies promoting their demagoguery and any decisions made by Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. The methodology of the modern group is very similar to the Montoneros, aiming to harass, destroy and silence critics of the Kirchner administration and promote their allies in
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNeZ75SdYYA&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=8&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqZfaj34nc&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=5&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQhqL1q8Y4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnK5BKvQwdY&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJi-8PtZFI&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3SU9qUAkSg&list=FLt2Nv9WPoJoLkIfxk8EnuNQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrBzIv7zis&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=4&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMeWe9EUoI&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=2&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hlOhymEY7c&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=6&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUrCkDHguc&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=7&feature=plpp_video
VATAYON MILITANTE - The Argentine government under Cristina Fernandez de Kircher and The Argentine National penitentiary service, takes inmates out of jail without judicial permission, to attend and participate in political events of Kirchner. The prisoners are paid an “allowance” of $2700 per month for joining this political group. The creation of this Vatayon militante group which are CONVICTED AND INCARCERATED for everything from murderer to armed robbery is becoming the Kirchner government's militant force of the future. If things get rough for Cristina, these prisoners have nothing to lose for defending the Kirchner movement with violence. They also have access to guns and drugs, and prostitues all courtesy of the Kirchner government. The prisoners who are chosen attend these events, is left up to the to the head of the Argentine National Penitentiary Service, Victor Hortel who is a very close ally of Cristina's government He is a former prisoner himself and has very close ties with prison gangs, and has been known to release prisoners at night to go out to steal and even kill, in exchange for drugs, sex and money. Rewarding criminals and prisoners for political purposes, violating all sorts of rules and laws, is proof of the form of government that Argentina is living with and will only get worse in the months and years ahead, especially if Cristina moved forward with her proposal to change the Argentine constitution to allow for her re-re-election for an unlimited amount of presidential terms.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7sfYGJobII
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcmymeZf8jM
Any wonder why TTT, PH (ALEX VARGAS), etc. are against freedom of the civilian press...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cámpora
Please stop your multiple posts
Why are you against freedom of the press in you own country?
“Why are you against freedom of the press in you own country?”
That is not the case - good try at deflecting and distracting though.
Back on topic:
TTT or “Arifu” (I'll play along, ok) - why are you and the other La Campora supporting CFK's attempts to regulate and limit the press?
Looks ominous - wouldn't that suppress dissent from the people?
Less free press = less free debate. Right?
There we are folks
Yankeeboy isn't sure of one thing but he is sure of a lot of other things.Mostly in the future.The poor boy is struggling to hold on to reality especially when the tendencies of capitalist competition is the topic.He still believes in the invisible hand of market forces,like a good neo-liberal.In his illusory world he believes he can see the invisible hand with a tattoo on it.
What does the tattoo say yankeeboy,can you read it.
LA CAMPORA - a semi military terrorist organization led by Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner's son - MaximoKirchner. It became politically influential after the death and state funeral of Néstor Kirchner. Maximo used state public funds to further the organization and take part in expropiations of private property, the oil company YPF, which Argentina expropiated (stole) from the government of Spain, and Aerolineas Argentinas expropiated (stolen) from the government of Spain. The airline is going to be renamed “Aerocamporas Argentinas”. They have already begun to repaint the logo on the airplanes at a cost of $400,000 US dollars. La Campora hopes to imitate the terrorist organization which Cristina Kirchner belonged to when she was young, called Montoneros. Montoneros was responsable for kidnappings, murders, armed robberies of business owners and members of the opposition government in Argentina in the 1970s. They follow methodologies of state sponsored terrorism. They go into schools and “indoctrinate” children and make them wear La Campora t-shirts, reading material and force them to participate in rallies promoting their demagoguery and decisions made by Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. The methodology of the modern group is very similar to the Montoneros, aiming to harass, destroy and silence critics of the Kirchner administration and promote their allies in blogs, Facebook, by internet and to steadily encroach on key positions in the state.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7GPAR4rdko
Back on topic, forget about China.
Why do you support the CFK government suppression of Argentina's news media?
More media = more debate, right ?
What is wrong with that?
What is CFK afraid of?
Impending Dictatorship ?
Did you know the U.S. has the highest standard of freedom of speech-In The World?
On r/Argentina and Taringa! you can't find ANY support from native Argentines for the current administration.
www.reddit.com/r/argentina/comments/11bp3w/explain_like_im_5_qué_fue_lo_que_nos_llevó_a_los/
Doesn't help they're shutting down Taringa! hard.
That's why I LIKE Mercopress. I wanted to hear a LITTLE, just a little, appreciation for public servants from Argentines (even if they're mucking up) because THEY hired them.
two questions:
1-what countries are you referring to as a can't talk in freedom about the state of media....argentina? We know that freedom does not exist there.
2-why do you not anwser me the question I asked 6 times, what language do you speak as you stated you are a Ghanan? Gonja? Dangme? Akan? I am waiting.
yulena, if you knew the language better, with ways people speak in English, you would know what it means when someone says, “I don't know” the way Yankee used it. Google it.....you types are good at googling things. What happened......your masters repimand you all? You use to almost sound thoughtful.
What is at issue is the control of media in fewer hands not the suppression of media.Tell me troy,have I missed something.Where did you see they where suppressing Clarin.Isnt it the control of such a chunk of media that is the problem.Havent you had gvt intervention in the News Crop proposed takeover of Sky television.Didnt they concede that sky news should be separated from the television arm.How, do you think,would Sky News survive as an independant news channel.What outlet would it use,News Corp.Or some other tv company.
PURE CAPITALIST ECONOMY:
The richest “poor” are in Singapore. avg $1500 a month, and their apartments cost $18-$250 (MASSIVE)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16920951
“but who doesn't want to have money in their pocket?”
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PURE COMMUNIST ECONOMY
the poorest “poor” are in North Korea.
•food cut to 200 grams of meal-flour a day. Hundreds of thousands died directly from famine.
“Tell the world we are starving.”
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/8641946/North-Korea-faces-famine-Tell-the-world-we-are-starving.html
•1/4 are too mentally retarded by malnutrition growing up to serve in their army. •2/3 children are physically stunted.
And they used to feed themselves just fine before.
DON'T worry about the fashion though, little Argentine. The first lady is sporting a French designer purse $$$
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9461057/Flood-and-famine-hit-North-Korea-but-first-lady-sports-Dior-handbag.html
(Remembers Michelle Obama's $15 gloves on inauguration day :)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCJt-gqBX8Y
I guess you have to be white to have rights we can see how bias and racist mercopress and british people are right here, no need to read anything, but why do they not allow for us to bring real issues about innocent Muslim women and children being raped and murdered by USA and EU all over the middle east. Anyone found the WMD??? www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQhqL1q8Y4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNeZ75SdYYA&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=8&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqZfaj34nc&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=5&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQhqL1q8Y4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnK5BKvQwdY&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJi-8PtZFI&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3SU9qUAkSg&list=FLt2Nv9WPoJoLkIfxk8EnuNQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrBzIv7zis&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=4&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMeWe9EUoI&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=2&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hlOhymEY7c&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=6&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUrCkDHguc&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=7&feature=plpp_video
What is it with your fixation of rape and murder of women and children?
And being white?
Does this mean you are black or simply Latino?
FFS get into the real world will you and stop with the stupidity.
By the way, kudos to Argentina for FREEING the white slaves and affirming their freedom of reproductive choice. m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/argentina-supreme-court-oks-sex-slaves-abortion-145941494.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US
#67 correction my concern over USA and EU murdering and raping Innocent Muslim women and Children is not a fixation ask them Muslims and you'll find that it's not a simple fixation is a fact that Muslims have to put up with all the time everywhere thanks to USA and Europeans.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQhqL1q8Y4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNeZ75SdYYA&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=8&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqZfaj34nc&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=5&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQhqL1q8Y4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnK5BKvQwdY&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJi-8PtZFI&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3SU9qUAkSg&list=FLt2Nv9WPoJoLkIfxk8EnuNQ&index=2&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrBzIv7zis&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=4&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMeWe9EUoI&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=2&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hlOhymEY7c&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=6&feature=plpp_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUrCkDHguc&list=PL2776F792646C37B7&index=7&feature=plpp_video
It gives P - Junta reassurance to feel that he is a disadvantaged minority.
Great excuse for personal failure - he is a self-acclaimed rascist .
Yanquis..is.. the U.S.?, which has..Latins? Lol
P.S. the U.S. gives half the food aid in the world. :)
On topic, for the first time since Argentina's military dictatorship, they've began closing websites. Try this one, para juego
www.leakymails.org/?m=1
Yeay Freedom!!!!
Argentines therefore cannot be Latins, as Latins originate in Europe.
Argentines are people, and foreigners are foreigners:
www.sociedad.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/curiosidades1.jpg
It is probably why you have such inferiority complexes which makes you sad and frustrated all the time.
Which 10 commandments are these that the argies follow?
Let me guess:
1) Thou shalt kill thy neighbour for 10 AG pesos?
2) Thou shalt commit adultery if you want to;
3) Thou shalt lie, steal and fornicate with the animals of the earth, just like your government;
I am sure you get the gist, you African charlatan you.
Ha, ha, ha.
“Argentines are people, and foreigners are foreigners:”
So, you have said you are NOT Argentinian, therefore you must be a Foreigner, as you say.right?
ADULTERY
Studies shows that Latins the most unfaithful, Australians the least. www.nytimes.com/2007/04/06/opinion/06druckerman.html
Just let me know.
BTW how do you pay rent when there aren't any tourists 10 MONTHS OF THE YEAR?
And what is the problem? The only definition that matters is the one you make of yourself. The only people here offended by the fact argies see you as the same as Barak Obama or Desmond Tutu is you and your anglo cronies. Anglo = anyone who speaks english and is a hypocrite by age 7 weeks (of gestation).
Though Jamaicans and Irish tend to be more honest anglos.
@78
I said I am a non-foreign foreigner who is within argentine non-argentine.
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Latinos are Latinos by the language they speak, not by origin. The 5 Latin languages are Italian, Romanian, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Regardless what anyone of them say, they are all Latin, Latinos in Spanish.
I have Latin, Anglo and Native American heritage so I like to hear the good.things
Latins are master at oratory, literature, romance, arts-but the ten commandments? many exceptions noted)
THOU SHALL NOT STEAL
m24digital.com/en/2012/10/01/oas-argentina-has-the-highest-robbery-rate-in-america/
•en.mercopress.com/2012/10/05/residents-leave-doors-open-round-the-clock-in-crime-free-falkland-islands
THOU SHALL NOT BARE FALSE WITNESS
www.lanacion.com.ar/m2/1499093-si-vamos-a-truchar-truchemos-todos
• NEW ZEALAND WINS most honest country in the world!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
THou shall Not KEEL
'Latin America Has The Highest Murder Rate in the World'
(they forgot Africa)
www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=356867&CategoryId=12394
•SAFEST?
EUROPE'S Iceland, Canada, Polynesia, Singapore, all of them! :)
www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/24/crime-rate-in-canada-at-lowest-level-since-1972-statistics-canada-says
HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER
m24digital.com/en/2012/06/18/cordoba-de-la-sota-go-to-court-for-an-anses-debt-of-millions/
Best retirement?
Australia and Europe's Nordic countries
www.knowledge.allianz.com/
U.S. Polynesia is-- INCREDIBLE-- at family support IN ALL the ways :D
#77 we are not from USA or UK. We do not bomb civilian homes nor do we molest rape or murder Muslim women and children as some people who arms terrorists and make up WMD to murder civilians to theft oil.
#78 he might be a British illegal alien sucking up Argentina's wealth from islas Malvinas Argentina. Their home UK is too far so he trolls in Argentina's news threads puking out uneducated comments. Due to being a Marica virgen, pelado, petiso, viejo y feo.
#79 well at least we make love rather then rape and murder them as USA and UK do with innocent Muslim women and children alllllllll ALLL “All OVER THE MIDDLE EAST”
#82 no KKK member like to admit they are inferior they already know it but rather live in denial.
Thou shalt not kill Iraqi children
Thou shalt not lie about Iraqi WMD
Thou shalt not conduct Mengelevian experiments on Guatemalan children
Thou shalt not go to war under false pretenses
Thou shalt not evict natives from their island for military reasons
Thou shalt not utter racist rants on trams
Thou shalt not grab a shotgun and randomly begin killing dozens
Thou shalt not have your athletes use drugs time after time to cheat
Thou shalt not get erections from staring at little children
Thou shalt not purposefully manipulate interest rates for usury
“I said I am a non-foreign foreigner who is within argentine non-argentine.”
That's very cryptic. Isn't there a better way to explain it?
so all good.
You can help Iraqi women here: www.equalityiniraq.com/
You do know that the U.S. is makes MORE than it needs,
and that Iraq supplies-dun dun dUN- China, right?
So what club is this? :
Somalia, Cuba, Afghanistan, Cyprus, North Korea, Haiti, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Greece, Argentina.
arifu, bug eyed nestor and his whore asslips kirchner already violated your your first rule when they stole Aerolinas funds. They also stole the land for their flea and roach ridden dumps they call hotels down south. titty boi, you really have personality disorder.
I don't need any of your designer acquaintances which you made on those wild San Telmo week-end escapades.
You lose screw, my jewleries in Pinamar and Villa Gesell function all year, but I also have peripatetic branches. In March-April I do Mendoza during the wine festival and winery tourist season, I do Salta in May-July, then Bariloche and Esquel or San martin in the Andes in July-October, then Iguazu October-November, take advantage to restock my invetory in Ciudad del Este, and then fly to Buenos Aires for december during the holiday season.
I bet you did not think of that smart plan, it is an obsenely efficient yearly plan.
What club whose members are Greece, Haiti, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Cuba, Uruguay, North Korea and Zim did Argentina join around last year?
Good, why share their energy resources with the enemy?
@97
That was not me. That was one of your post-San Telmo weekend dreams (you dressed as policeman, black guy... we all get the picture).
TTT is really enjoying this latest reincarnation as a black African male.
Don't spoil it for him. His life holds so little joy. ;-D
I personally would be very happy...
I’m enjoying democracy as never before in Argiland.
I told an Rg friend and he said you are kidding right? How stupid is he?
Toby, btw all the traveling sales would be unprofitable no matter what mode of transportation you used. You couldn't make up the volume with cheap jade and obsidian jewelry.
Don't you see how ridiculous you are?
Thou shall not invade other people's islands/lands
Thou shall not murder 30,000 women , men and children of your own!!!!
Thou shall not control the free press
thou shall not pay disadvantaged people for votes
thou should pay your debts or you will be humiliated on the world stage
And last but not least
Thou should not mess with the Uk or you get your @ss kicked and for 30 years remain a humiliated broken country jajajaja
daddy this is fun, me play more later
All that can be summed up in one sentence:
Thou shalt not be a Brit.
Enough said :)
Oct 12th, 2012 - 09:08 pm
Argentines are not European, they actually follow the 10 commandments.
Argentines therefore cannot be Latins, as Latins originate in Europe.
Argentines are people, and foreigners are foreigners:
@75 that really cleared it.
I bet they come back with the ship. As soon as arg is done playing your little children games and tells you lot you wont get a nickle by pirating. Should you accomplish any cash though, you will be pirates. Us Uruguayans are merely victims of your lack of morals. Another win-win :)
I doubt very much Arg will get the ship back without sending a wire to the Ghana courts. Diplomatically, logically, morally Argentina is on the wrong side of this skirmish and will lose in the end.
CFK should just send the U$20MM or negotiate a smaller sum and be done with this International embarrassment. Why this horrible women likes to continue to embarrass Argentina in International settings is beyond me. I know she is mentally unstable, lives with sycophants lapping up her every word but she must know deep down that she is a fool.
Guzz, Uruguayans in general follow the rule of law. You must be the only Uruguayan except for the senile ol' commie running the country who still sides with CFK. Have you been back in the last 10 yrs? From your ridiculous posts I highly doubt it.
My old man was just too strong for you lot, hijo de siete mil putas...
He still is :))
This link opens a “kettle of fish”!
Brum brum brum, and on the alternate side great financial divide what's in your food parcel today????
INDEC confirmed you are not considered destitute/homeless if you make more than U$.0.88/day. Whew that's livin'!
Most of the argies speaking English in this forum are living in Canada, Europe etc. and still they write this malvinas-BS, why don't they go back to their beloved Argentina if it's so great place. I want to make clear i'm not a neo-nazi etc. i have nothing against hard working, highly educated Latinos who immigrate, but i just happen to know argies don't fill that description. They are lazy and useless people.
Fuck, i want to smash a argie face right now.
Probably
Delusional
Losers
Just like the Rg posters on this board.
Capt Poppy the ex-sailor has volunteered to sail the stolen ship into international waters and abandon it.
Poppy do you still remember how to do it,because you have lost your naval discipline which is so important when managing a large ship.One slip and you could be kidnapped.
Don't worry though the press will democratically drawn a veil of silence and thwart the kidnappers.Yankeeboy the ace negotiator will handle one to one contact with the kidnappers.Its a wonderful world.
Very funny but you have the country wrong: it's the high level argi-prats who are going to Somalia.
They say it is safer there than in BsAs.
Guzz says he studies in Denmark, so he must be altleast 35 years old, since in Argentina people study in Uni's till their 40's.
But you are right, you never know whom you are talking to in internet. it might a kid or a 50 year old bearded malvinero wearing his wife's dress in front of a computer secretly imported from Bolivia.
“Ghana and Elliot have sent a team to Somalia for advice on negotiating a ransom.Seems that the plan isn't working as expected and Ghana are at a loss with how to get out of a situation they hadn't planned for.”
Weak, silly post Yuleno.
This is NOT like Julian Ass-ange over-staying his welcome in the Ecuadorian Embassy.
When Ghana sees that Argentina does not want to reclaim their ship by paying a relatively small bond, worth only a fraction of the vessel's value, it will be released to creditors.
Elliott will get a bargain and sell it on the open market - legally!
Argentina may not even get credit for its value against their debt.
How embarrassing for Argentinians. I feel sympathy for the average AR citizen. Even when a symbol of national pride is in jeopardy, but offered back with reasonable terms, CFK's government still has a public tantrum.
They have made this situation far worse than it could be. And more public.
Have they no dignity? Pay up the nominal amount quietly, and take your ship home.
As for the stolen ship, sue them in a USA court.......bahahahahahahahahaha
Don't worry though the press will democratically drawn a veil of silence and thwart the kidnappers.
Unfortunately you missed it and went for the story.Little boys love stories don't they.
“On this thread the relevant sentence was-
Don't worry though the press will democratically drawn a veil of silence and thwart the kidnappers.
Unfortunately you missed it and went for the story.Little boys love stories don't they.”
Yuleno, in fact, it was YOU @126 who brought up the off-topic nonsense about Somalian pirates and ridiculed Yankeeboy and the marine experience of Capt. Poppy.
The little gratuitous Bon-mot of the press not reporting was ridiculous and childish:
@126 Yuleno
“Ghana and Elliot have sent a team to Somalia for advice on negotiating a ransom.Seems that the plan isn't working as expected and Ghana are at a loss with how to get out of a situation they hadn't planned for.
Capt Poppy the ex-sailor has volunteered to sail the stolen ship into international waters and abandon it.
Poppy do you still remember how to do it,because you have lost your naval discipline which is so important when managing a large ship.One slip and you could be kidnapped.
Don't worry though the press will democratically drawn a veil of silence and thwart the kidnappers.Yankeeboy the ace negotiator will handle one to one contact with the kidnappers.Its a wonderful world.”
For a start, I know nothing about the Penquin News.
I stumbled across Mercopress when I saw an article about Argentine claims against the Falklands, thirty years after the invasion.
Following the posts on Mercopress for a few weeks, it became clear that there was an organised war of disinformation to turn the public against the Falklands, in order to falsely validate Argentina's claims.
Just refuting the troll crap on this site alone, has kept me busy enough.
Thanks for the 'heads up' though. Perhaps I'll take a look at Penguin News.
Wishing the Falklanders well and much future prosperity.
Nobody.......
We are all strong supporters of the “Free Press”, dont you know?
Speaking of Free Press, good job getting out the messages of the FREE people of The Falkland Islands and Self Determination.
This propaganda conflict really highlights the value of news sites like Mercopress and Penquin News.
Self Determination for Falklanders!
Prosperity for Falklands Oil !!
Yay Brits!!!
Thanks for your support.
Think.
Sorry old man but our days of chatting come to an end here tonight because your association with Argentina's number one head case on here is not worth the trouble.
Welcome to the forum. I imagine you've been watching for awhile.
The conclusions you have drawn were the same as me, after just a short time.
Trolls have multiple identities of course , and that may be why many sound the same with the same limited education.
Let's face it, any Argentinian that had finished University would likely be successful in their business or profession. They would be busy and not likely to need an income from trolling 16 hours a day.
La Campora is composed of dissaffected Argentinians 30-40 y/o. Likely, frustrated, under-achiever s, who are unemployed or underemployed in a poor economy. Predictably, they would be susceptible to propaganda and the lure of La Campora.
Dany
Think
TTT (Arifu Go Bak Ski)
and Sussie (Adorrible)
And their many alternative 'personas'
are believed to be La Campora.
Note similarities in style and phrasing etc.
All read from the same script and share the same POV.
They all respond the same way, on cue.
They also ADORE CFK - she can do no wrong!
They all quote articles from WIKI, YouTube, The Guardian, to assert their political positions.
Usual tactics are to
-Change the subject
- DDDD - deflect/deny/distract/distort facts in any argument
- refer to Brit / US ' crimes' 300 years ago, or in Afghsnistan, etc.
“Prvates- Hunter” is really ALEX VARGAS, an angry Argentinian kid, living near Toronto Canada.
He is NOT La Campora. Frankly, he is too stupid and too much of a loose cannon.
PH lives with his parents safely in Cansda, yet incites mob violence in BA. He does not participate himself because he cannot return to Canada if he leaves.
He prefers petty theft and vandalism at 'home'.
He is very very angry, calling on nuking whole populations.
He is a self-proclaimed racist. He hates Canada - his parents brought him as an infant, to escape political persecution and poverty in Argentina.
Not sure why he is angry at “the white man”???
On the issue of the press I haven't seen any acknowledgement of the problems in the British press and the investigations by the gvt.Or the fact that the gvt has involvement with the conduct of the press.Nor of the fact that in the USA there are laws governing press impartiality,no matter what effect the laws have.
No matter,I sure there are reasons for it.
The only sane one in here is conqueror, all the rest are lunatics...
How true... Conq does hate you.
@141 Yuleno
“.I shouldn't defend yanqui puppets for your own good.You are going to find yourself supporting/defending some difficult positions in the future.”
Hmmmm, vaguely threatening,
definitely mysterious.
Captain Poppy has stated many times that you and 'Sussie' think they are the same person, a Brit. A bit ironic coming from you.
BTW, I am not Isolde. :-)
Interesting too, the Falklanders are hinting at a big, positive, event coming soon.
JB seems to 'think' it is time to stop playing nice with the Trolls. You lot must have stepped up your tactics on other forums. I suppose events are moving quickly in BA now, as CFK gambles on her future. Dramatic actions are needed for dramatic times...
Sorry about your cadet boat. Truly a shame, as it is a legitimatic object of Argentinian pride. Despite the rhetoric on here, I'm sure nobody else would want the boat itself. If you were to pay the bond, I'm sure it would be better for everyone.
I regret that average Argentinians will be disheartened and embarrassed by CFK's political grandstanding on the issue.
On another note, glad the “Sussie ” identity is back on meds and subdued. It is so much quieter on here.
Please do everyone a favour though - ask that mentally-ill Alex Vargas to go rant elsewhere. That nuke stuff makes me cringe to hear it. He is really very angry, an embarrassment to your cause, I would think.
Can't wait to hear more on your great mystery, you are all hinting about it.
I think you are quite mistaken about the ship.
It is a masterpiece quite unworthy of the present day AG government and reminiscent of when AG could actually make something of lasting value.
It has also had a relatively recent refit.
There are a number of sail training associations around the world that would welcome this ship albeit with a real name on the hull, rather than the discredited one it presently has.
It is only tainted by recent events.
A shame for the proud citizens of Argentina, though.
reach groups Bs.As. and will mob the area south of Buenos Aires; all groups connected to
Peronism on July 26 in the North Zone of the Greater Buenos Aires (Evita of the Humble).
Also the group “Cacho Scarpatti” and all operating factions of the Movement
Peronist Revolution (MPR), headquartered in Córdoba, and will invade the streets.
The “Evita Movement” militant Peronism and to the north, west and south of Buenos Aires, and
especially groups related to “La Campora”, with all sectors grouped in the structure called
“United and organized.”
All of these militants have directives to march to printing factories, TV studios and the Clarin media Building
The same day 7D, by conducting Lt. Col. (R) Berni (second in command to
Nilda Garre, the minister of nations security will direct all
“Dirty operations of the KKS”) that day has ordered the National Guard (Gendarmería) and Argentine Federal Police (PFA)
to occupy by for every single one of the plants of The Clarin newspaper to “support the court's decision.”
Beginning the first days of December, the militant Kirchner group Vatayón Militante
will wreak havoc on the citizens of Argentina ... for the purposes of the following:
Systematic, targeted criminal activity:
Invade and partake in a crime spree of robbery in parts of Recoleta, Belgrano, Palermo and other areas of Capital
especially in homes of opponents and critical journalists, media managers and any person not supportive of the Kirchner government.
Graphics and television executives who will suffer ... street robberies, push in robberies, carjackings and express kidnappings.
They will cause blackouts and power outages in printing factories, and media facilities, the night
the of the 6th of December.
A few days before the 7th of December, they are planning a massive “escape” of prisoners from jails all around the country.
(Orchestrated by the Kirchn
PH Alex Vargas is excited about TUPAC - he thinks he's going to see a Rap Artist...
Oh!
Thank you very much indeed for advising us about such wonderful and coloured demonstration of pure democracy in action.
The “Pueblo” expressing its wishes under the umbrella of freedom and the most pure democracy thanks to Her Majestic Divine Queen Cristina Elisabet I, loved for all her people of Argentina (with few haters exception no names here) and admired in the world (with some exceptions like idiots in harvest Uni with poop cow smell and not brain at all).
I’m very disappointed with “La Canporra” because didn’t make such event publicly available.
Anyway I will not miss such appointment because sure I will be a lot of fun printing graffiti’s in the walls of “ClarinMiente” and “La destrucion”
Can I bring “casseroles”, “saucepan” whistles and some cool drinks?
I promise to bring with me good quality and brand new set of “casseroles”, because the “casseroles” of the last “del campo” and the “Barrio norte” demonstration were cheap and nasty stuff made of poor quality aluminium, they sure have not class at all.
7D the most happy day in my life and sure I can extend that feelings to all good, honest and hard working Argentines.
BTW have you any information about Queen Cristina Elisabet I re-election?
Because I would like to vote for her this time...
All you get nowadays is,
The kitcheners times,
The Christina weekly
And the Fernandez daily orders.
.
That's 3 sources of information, you lot have CNN and derivatives...
i stick with either the BBC or Sky news,
the Euro new is rubbish.
If I were them I would stop billing and shut down the cable/internet system now, lay off all of the employees then move the equipment into a secure location.
No TV will get people really riled up before the Nov protest.
That is exactly why this militant group was established and is run my MaxiK.
Post the flyer to photobucket so we can see it.
I am anxiously awaiting the protests
Worried about my friends and family in BA though
You'll be able to pick up a flyer and photograph relevant graffiti on your visit to BA next month.You will be able to pich up memorabilia for Poppy as his in laws could collect it in the interim.
I remember one protest in 2002 where my bldg admin advised everyone to stay inside and close the blinds so they didn't damage the bldg.
“I wish I could leave but I don't have a place to go.”
And how is that?
You can go to US, UK, F@ckland Islands, Spain, Greece, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Chile, Peru, Colombia, etc, etc.
Don’t waste your future in Argentina and leave now, ask super rich “YankeeLadyBoy” if he cans pick up you from airport with his limousine, host you in his mansion in US and help you to find a well pay and wonderful job in his town.
But if you are looking for something more sophisticated, glamorous and with posh accent from Cockneyland you can ask “ConquerTrolo” sure he will be able to help you to find accommodation in glamorous Clapham Junction, Brixton, Oval, Vauxhall, etc.
If you need some financial support just put a donate button link in your post, sure Rich Islanders will donate like crazies to help you to escape from Argentina and go to F@cland free of crime, super rich and with mansions all over the place and with the most expensive cars you have ever seen.
BTW can we have any possibility that if you can archive you leaving dream from Argentina you can sign a legal contract saying I will not spam any forum again please?
Thank You
thanks for bringing all this to our attention, and giving us some background information.
@159 Dunny
Must be a slow day at the La Csmpora nursery.
Typical that you have nothing relevant to say about La campora's actions , but you only attack the Truth-Telling-Messenger.
Agent X-2-Zero reporting to Troy Tempest!
Never saw that episode
LOL !!
about time, Think.
Did you Google to find out who Troy Tempest was???
CANADÁ
TORONTO - Argentina Consulate - 5001 Yonge Street - 7 PM
SPAIN
BARCELONA - Argentina Consulate - Paseo de Gracia 11
MADRID - Argentina Consulate - Serrano 90
MALAGA - Avda principal y calle Larios - 20 h
PALMA DE MALLORCA - Argentina Consulate - Sant Miquel 30
USA
MIAMI BEACH – Colins y 73, frente restaurant Manolo's.
Right in the heart of “Little Argentina” in Miami beach - 6PM Local Time
WASHINGTON DC - Argentina Consulate & Embassy,1600 New Hampshire Av Northwest Washington DC - 6 PM hora local
NEW YORK - Argentina Consulate - 12 West 56th Street, (entre 5ta. & 6ta. Ave) NY - 6 PM hora local
BOSTON - Massachusetts - Downtown Crossing - 18 hora local
GERMANY
HAMBURG - Argentina Consulate - Mittelweg 141- 19 h
SWEEDEN
STOCKHOLM - Argentine Embassy - Narvavägen 32 - Estación de tren Karlaplan - 7 PM hora local.
Meeting Place: fuente de la plaza a la salida de la estación de tren Karlaplan
Fountain in the plaza at the train station exit Karlaplan
ENGLAND
LONDON - Argentina Embassy - 65 Brook Street London WIK 4AH - 19 h
ITALY
ROME - Argentina Consulate - Via Vittorio Veneto 7 - 19 h
Meeting place: Piazza in front of the consulate
CHILE
VALPARAISO - Argentina Consulate - Blanco 890 (corner of Gomez Carreño)
MEXICO
MEXICO DF - Argentina Embassy - Av Paseo de las Palmas 1685, Colonia Lomas de Chapultepec
URUGUAY
PUNTA DEL ESTE - in front of La Mano, en la Brava - 7PM November 8th
COLOMBIA
BOGOTA – Parque El Virrey in front of Illy – 18 h
Cacerolas in Pta del Este :)) How symbolic... Poor burguesitos :)))
”Tupac a rap artist... You ignorant puppet :))”
I'm not the puppet, says Troy Tempest.
You're the one with a hand up your ass making you speak.
“Argentines therefore cannot be Latins, as Latins originate in Europe.”
You pratt! Agentines by percentage of genetic make-up did orginate from Europe!!!!
Visit me on Face Book:
www.facebook.com/troy.tempest.1610
m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=share&v=CnK5BKvQwdY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCnK5BKvQwdY%26feature%3Dshare
PH was concerned about a multinational company not paying the legal tax requirement in Argentina. How is it you missed that.
It seems to be pre-teen sort of thing to rant about homosexual, perverts, arses etc.
Its like they have just learnt these bad words and must use them as much as possible to “shock” and “upset” people, all a bit pathetic really.
And what is wrong with bring up your service activity.Is there something wrong?
What goes your continued ranting about Monsanto have to do with CFK intimidating and attacking the free press in Argentina.
You have nothing relevant to add to these subjects - Capt. Poppy , Alex does not live in Argentina, and never will.
You are so impotent - when you can't argue, you name-call.
You know what they say about people that are overt Homophobes, right????
Fail troll. LOL
Alex lives north of me in Canada and both him and yulena are either homophobes or closet homosexuals. Personally, to each there own. But they anger must likely stems that they are closeted because the “lab”, aka la campora frowns on shemales.
Tell us all about some of the marks you've left Captain.Is there any newspaper reports about them.
Ambassador to the United Nations. Dr. Karin
Karlekar is the project director of Freedom of
the Press at Freedom House:
www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/1/kirchner-argentina-abuses/
If anyone made a wild a sweeping acssertion it is you thinking you know my background by claiming I was Navy. I defined my MOS once, find it.
Now get back to the topic of assholelips kirchner repressing the media.
PUNTOS DE CONVOCATORIA EN EL EXTERIOR - LUGARES CONFIRMADOS:
ESPAÑA, 20hs (horario local)
-MADRID - CONSULADO DE ARGENTINA - Serrano Nº 90
-BARCELONA - CONSULADO DE ARGENTINA
DIRECCIÓN: Paseo de Gracia 11, 2º Piso, Escalera B
08007 Barcelona – España
-PALMA DE MALLORCA - Consulado Argentino - Sant Miquel 30, 4º C Palma
-MALAGA - Avda principal y calle Larios.
EEUU, 18hs (horario local)
-MIAMI BEACH – Colins y la 73 calle, frente al restaurant Manolo's. Pleno corazon de la Pequeña Argentina en Miami Beach.
-Washington DC, VA, MD y metro area
1600 New Hampshire Avenue Northwest Washington
-NEW YORK - Consulado Argentino en NYC 12 West 56th Street, (entre 5ta. & 6ta. Ave) New York, NY el 8 de Noviembre a las 6PM.
-BOSTON, Massachusetts, Downtown Crossing, 18hs hora local.
-CHICAGO - Consulado argentino - 205 N. Michigan Ave, suite 4209, 6PM
ALEMANIA
-HAMBURGO. Frente al Consulado. Mittelweg 141
D-20148 Hamburg.
BRASIL
-RIO DE JANEIRO: Frente al Consulado Argentino. Praia de Botafogo, 228 slj. 201, Botafogo.
-BELO HORIZONTE, frente al consulado 20hs. Rua Ceará 1566, 6to. andar.
CANADÁ
-TORONTO - Consulado de Argentina - 5001 Yonge Street a las 7 PM - HORA LOCAL
CHILE
-VALPARAISO - Consulado Argentino en Valparaiso - Chile. Blanco 890 (con Gomez Carreño)
-SANTIAGO, en Plaza Italia a las 19 horas.
COLOMBIA:
-BOGOTA – PARQUE EL VIRREY FRENTE A ILLY – 8N – 18,00 HS
ITALIA
-ROMA - CONSULADO ARGENTINO- Via Vittorio Veneto, 7 - 2do. Piso - 00183 ROMA - 19 HS. PUNTO DE ENCUENTRO: PIAZZA FRENTE AL CONSULADO
ISRAEL
-TEL AVIV. Medinat Hayehudim 85 3rd. Floor 46120, Herzliya Pituach, Israel
MEXICO
- DF Embajada - Av Paseo de las Palmas 1685 , Colonia Lomas de Chapultepec, México DF
REINO UNIDO
-LONDRES - EMBAJADA ARGENTINA - 65 BROOK STREET LONDON WIK 4AH 19 HS
And Uruguay and Venezula
m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=share&v=CnK5BKvQwdY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCnK5BKvQwdY%26feature%3Dshare
Now that you know the truth about CNN why would you be worried about another country like Argentina unless you don't really care about the freedom of the press as you might have prophesied but you are here to nurse the need for Latin slongesh.
Can you trolls find real references?
“Now that you know the truth about CNN why would you be worried about another country like Argentina unless you don't really care about the freedom of the press as you might have prophesied but you are here to nurse the need for Latin slongesh.”
Hmmmm, besides being off-topic, what does homosexuality have to do with Argentina shutting down the press for being critical of the government?
You seem obsessed with the subject. :-D
I guess it beats having an intellectual discussion, or were you molested as a child?
There are social services for that.
Oh, wait, you're not entitled to that, are you?
its interesting to see her perspective change now that she is 'outside looking in'..
she see's all the goofiness of the kirchner govt and it's impact being reported in other publications outside of 'clarin miente' by international media.
many in RG (like my wife) believed the press in her country was just out to get the president(and likely so) but then she finds out the world opinion is based on quite solid ground - that kirchner is erratic, doesnt pay the bills, enriched herself on behalf of her people, sqaushed investigations, bought votes and is leading her country into the toilet and it's not just 'clarin miente' reporting it this time .
Freedom of the Press
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_Press_(report)
Judicial system
worldjusticeproject.org/country/argentina
Ethics
www.transparency.org/
“His father repeatly raped him and his momma removed him from her nipple too soon”
We don't know that, but PH (Alex Vargas) is very very angry, when he has had am opportunity to a good life and education in Canada.
Can't figure that out unless something happened to make him lash out at authority figures and Whites, with self-righteous indignation.
Could be self-loathing from sexual abuse.
He very vocally accuses others of being homosexual, in nearly every post, obsessed for some reason.
Rants about nuking children make me think he's mentally-ill, though.
Hence .......alex vargas
Alex Vargas says exactly the same things on each website - regardless of topic.
RT forum:
”Alex Vargas (unregistered) October 06, 2012, 02:23 quote +5
CIA and mossad did a great job killing jews in the AMIA terror attack, we all know who has a working terror network don't we, CIA, mossad and mi6 always kill civilians to promote their agenda, just look at Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq with more terrorist now then when they where run by the the so called terrorists. if you think of the past, the terrorists did a better job then the occupiers, murderers and thieves from CIA, mossad and mi6.”
You mean they are NOT holding aliens in Roswell?
That's like telling a child that Father Christmas is not real! LOLs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnK5BKvQwdY&feature=related
“Denial is futile...”
Are you the 'Borg'?
Is CFK the cybernetic 'Borg Queen'????
“We fight alone...”
We ????? not you.
“we are not cowards...” Really???
You are delusional.
YOU are in Canada and will remain here until MI6 and CSIS come for you.
:-D
Alex Vargas on Facebook
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Good hunting ha ha
Alex Jones and Amber Lyon exposing another corrupted media Group manipulating information for their own interests like ClarinMiente, La Destruccion & co.
7D coming...
For yanqui free press but not freedom to desemiate information .
But to your point yulena, who fired the reporter? The media or the government?
Yanks want to lecture others a bout freedom that they ever had at home and economy when are falling like stones in the water.
Idiots indoctrinated and still missing “Joseph Raymond McCarthy” and “John Edgar Hoover”.
US is a corrupted country and closer to default than ever...
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@128 Leifu_Heppni - that was too funny, thanks for the laugh!
I live in the states (Cali), work for a financial related company, visit argentina when we can afford it
(my wife is from a small community in Argentina, and recently moved to the US).
I would say with the political climate being what it is right now, we have decided
to delay plans to go there in January - we are just not sure if we'll have trouble travelling with our
personal electronics, US Currency, or if her travel status back to the U.S. will be in question on return.
BTW: My last visit to Argentina I was stopped and detained, my bags emptied, money counted (thank god i didnt have
much) and signed a form saying i was detained, they found nothing and have a nice day (in spanish) this was in Rosario..
Was followed by their police/customs the entire time at the airport with a guard stationed within 20 feet anywhere i
decided to go (which wasnt very far considering rosario is small, but where i went, they went also..)
I know it sounds paranoid, but the old adage is 'better safe than sorry'..
and yes, i have paid in cash (U.S.) but my wife suggested i not get 'flashy' with it haha.. so, i've since learned to just bring a little as you suggested in your post for tips etc.. and use pesos.
@211 Yuleno - did you have any particular point to your statement? Ordinarily i would take offense,however i find it difficult to get too angry with children, they generally grow up and learn - here's hoping that happens to you soon.
Yankeeboy is not so smart,his he.He must be younger and still learning.
Let's not get overexcited here!
The standard Barrett 0.50 cal round has a 661 GRAIN bullet head, which is the usual loading for 50 BMG, this is 42.83 g.
700 grams is almost ONE AND A HALF POUNDS!!!
I thought the 50 cal was big, but that would be huge!! :o)
“Popsey” - kinda folksy and nice.
Like the way kids affectionately talk to an older experienced person they admire.
Perfect for your grandson, and others...
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