“Dollar clamp” in Argentina extended to all outgoing tourists
The Argentine foreign exchange clamp has reached the outgoing tourism industry which to have access to Central bank US dollars for the trip, must now report each ticket or package sale plus the overseas services contracted according to the latest resolution.
In practical terms this means every Argentine travelling outside the country must make a sworn statement before the tax revenue office, AFIP with all the travel and expenditure details overseas.
Resolution 3395 published in the Official Gazette indicates that all interested parties must access the “Foreign Trade Only Electronic Window”, which will receive all the information referred to the tickets purchased, be it by air or sea, plus the tourism and trips expenses contracted with the local tourism operators or agents.
Although the ‘electronic window’ has yet to establish the personal data needed to fill the forms, tourism and travel agents must report details of the tickets, packages and the US dollars requested from the Central bank for the trip. The resolution becomes effective Saturday.
“AFIP has not yet asked for the name of the hotels and how many nights travellers will spend, but we shouldn’t be surprised if this is the next step”, said with some irony industry sources quoted by the media.
The administration of President Cristina Fernandez has been tightening the control over the sale and purchase of foreign currency since a year ago to try and stem the outflow of dollars which are needed to pay for imports and honour foreign debt.
Thus all foreign exchange operations must now be done through the central bank previous approval from the tax revenue office AFIP which looks into the fiscal situation of those involved in any foreign money transaction.
President Cristina Fernandez has called on Argentines to forget about the US dollar and start thinking, trusting and saving in Argentine Pesos. The president has also claimed that Argentina is the country with most dollar bills per capita after the US, in the range of 1.500 dollars.
Cristina Fernandez also denies the existence of a “dollar clamp” blaming the media for the use of the expression. She assured that over 80 billion dollars were used to pay for imports, debt and tourism between January and October this year.
“What clamp on the dollar are you talking about? There is only a democratic clamp enforcing compliance with the law,” she emphasized.
This however in spite of Cristina Fernandez appeals and the dollar clamp has a very clear reason: the recurrent bouts of hyperinflation to which Argentine residents have been exposed with the Peso.
Nevertheless there is a ‘blue’ or ‘black’ market but anybody caught trading in foreign currency outside the official circuit runs the risk of severe fines and even a jail sentence. The official exchange rate closed on Friday at 4.75 Pesos to the US dollar while in the parallel market the greenback was selling at 6.20 Pesos.
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How long will it be before no one is allowed to leave the country at all?
North Korea II coming to Argentina soon.
That is only because Argentinians have no faith in the value their own currency !!!
It will only be a matter of time before tourists are frisked at the airport and any dollars found they will be rushed into a room and beaten, dollars confiscated & thrown into prison. :)
People might stand a corrupt politician for a while but when their own security is at stake they are not going to risk their savings on the word of a bi-polar, lying, incompetent. The last crash is too raw in their minds.
CFKC says, 'Trusssst in meeeee.....” as her eyeballs rotate.
Can you see why your #4 post is delusional?
You are full of bullshit, you pretend to be Uruguayan and hide in Sweden/Denmark.
You make inane comments “I invest in happiness”.
By the way have you got your “competent crew sailing course” yet!
12
Yes, I'm in Europe, getting an education partly paid by the danish state, getting a 120k DKK seafare course in beca :))
Last week I went to Oslo and back, studying hydraulic systems, cooling water systems and electricity on a ship. Costed me the sum of... nothing :)
Hilarious, after so many years we are able to charge for all your theiving in SA. We'll charge in knowledge, thank you very much :))) y que te arda :))
Arg Govt-= you do not need dollars - that place is ours!
Reality(veteran.nok) = well I do as they will not touch an Arg peso there and accept dollars-euros-sterling only.
Arg Govt - well you cannot go, as allowing you to take dollars means us having to recogise there is another govt and people there!
CFKC certainly is working hard at isolating her 'subjects'.
@4 Strangely, pestification will have no effect on the dollar. There are 192 nations and argieland in the world. What effect would the cesspit have?
@7 The concept of “worrying” about you is far beyond me!
@9 Don't be daft. He's still in third grade!
@11 Why does anything you don't understand have to be “a trick”, Guzzle? Question too difficult for you? Not in the CFK-provided script? Still waiting for the tinpot man to get back to you?
We always blame CFK and her government for what is happening, but in reality it is what the people want. They can't live with their currecy being devalued yet again and so they will continue to deal with her crap because they benefit from it.
I hope everyone likes the brown, cold, windy beaches along the Arg coast because CFK basically said no one is to leave the country...wonder how long that will last?
What if you have an export business and you have to travel to sell? Do you close it?
Rumor is they'll soon need permission to leave the country and it's gonna cost $1500 for processing.
Every Argentino can buy all the dollars they want here:
compratedolares.com.ar/
fill in and hit the 'Continuar' button.
You monkey! LOL
that's a good one!
How can Argentina expect to do business if their citizens are not able to travel freely to sell Argentine products. Kretina says that they need the dollars to “pay for imports and honour foreign debt”, but the truth is that they are not 'honouring' foreign debts at all. The money is either stuffed into suitcases for Kretina, or used to buy oil, without which the country would grind to a halt.
It is simply hilarious that Argentina has plenty of oil reserves, but cannot extract it, because no-one trusts them. Oil producers want hard cash, not empty promises. It won't be long before even the oil producers refuse to trade and gasoline/diesel rationing starts. It will be a matter of weeks then before Kretina is strung up or suddenly in permanent residence in Venezuela.
Shh don't tell anyone but I liked it!
Actually, we took a much different attitude as we didn't want to cause resentment either. We all remember a reverse of fortunes when 1 Argentinian Peso was valued at an American Dollar. You are right however about them showing sincere gratitude and the extra service.
I declared several cases of wine and paid Chilean duties upon return. The aduana gave me a huge break (without any bribes) and the taxes were reasonable.
The problem of course is that the “Mad Empress is without clothes show” is about to be exposed and I cannot imagine the consequences except another economic collapse.
Like your pathetic leader you have no integrity what so ever.
Have a nice day .
And when I'm done here, I will take all I got and put it to the service of my Uruguay, as it should be. We already paid you lot in gold, silver, blood and bread.
Stop trying to knit a flag. No one believes it anymore anyway. Argentina is a bankrupt nation. It has run out of money, of trust, of respect and self respect. It has it's ships impounded because it can't pay the bills, it's president cannot go on TV or appear in public without making a fool out of herself and they never EVER stick to an agreement or international law.
The country was, at one time, a peaceful, tanquil garden of eden, TMBOA has turned it into a whorehouse. Now it lies and cheats and steals from it neighbours, or tries to bully them into submission to get it's own way, when it doesn't, it crys and whines like a little child who's mother has said “You can't have that last chocolate”.
Well, I hope that the lies can keep you warm through the next winter and I hope that you can pay your bills with them, because, the way that it's going, you won't have anything else left to buy food with.
So go on!! Blame the rest of the world for the problems that you brought upon yourselves, try and steal back some of that self respect that ol' turkey neck stole ( along with other things ) from you.
Argentina has proved that there is no honour amongst thieves........
Oct 13th, 2012 - 03:44 pm
And it is all somebody else's fault.
obvioúsly that all comménts owners merely know Argentina from media/interñet,etc..what they say on mánipúlative propagañda .
Argentina has no $ shortage right now..
Dont worry,, Argentina's ínternational finance prestige is at good point,
thus, in 2010 borrowed 4.5 $billions ...in 20111 borrowed 9.5 $ billions from intérnational markets..and going on.....do you know this réality ? of coúrse No !
Whát do yòu know out of your mémorizing ? just ñothing !
LOL!
Junk Bond/ Speculative Grade = BB
Financial prestige does not = BB
But then Arg may never get a serious pres, haven't had one since 1960's. Here's hopin she's replaced by another stand-up comedian.
“No, I'm something you will never comprehend,”
We know that! Its just what species of idiot is what most of want to know!
“ either we meet in the middle, me included, or fuck all”
BUt if i remember correctley, in a previous forum you very baltantly illustrated that you do not want to meet in the middle!!
BTW, this is a general question open to anyone, how do you define a 3rd world country? Is there a tick boxed document that governments use? At what point would a once listed 3rd world country claim not to be one?
I wouldn't consider Chile to be 3rd world. Nor Argentina but for different reasons... I think RG land is in a not quite parallel universe.
Argentina SHOULD have joined the first world in the 1970s.
At least they got their wine quality up to the first tier...
Do one of your ”nuke the pirate women and children' rants.
Far more entertaining.
PH is Alex Vargas
He lives in Canada
He left Argentina as a smaller child
Was that yesterday?
The same as our “Old British Friend” Justin(hishead)Kuntz or,as he also called himself in Wikipedia (before his deactivation): Wee Curry Monster.
His last comment before his “Retirement” was:
”Content editors are scum, Wikipedia is not about creating an encyclopedia at all.”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wee_Curry_Monster
Nobody (except, of course, the Squatters) will miss his ”small convenient lies” and insults on the Malvinas/Falklands article on Wikipedia.....
Guzz sounds like you sometimes.
and it is easy to see his bigoted, derogatory, mendacious, racist, xenophobic approach.
Speaking about Squatters....;-)
Good morning...., How are we t'day?
Guzz sounds like me sometimes, all-right.
And you sound like .....Conqueror sometimes.
But, as I have told ya a thousand times....:
There is only one “Think”
There CAN only be one “Think”
(The Highlander©)
I think he initially created the aliases to agree with the Think posts but found the fictional characters more fun than his own, not surprising.
Too much of the vitriol, bitterness and background leaks out in the other characters to make them different people.
Seriously, how many Scandinavian decent, multi languages, retornados, American hating, Uk hating, socialists could really be in Argentina? The fact we have 3 regular posters matching that description here is mind boggling. The odds are fantastic and unbelievable.
In the many years I lived there I didn't meet one person with Scandinavian heritage, not one. I know they must exist because there is a Swedish Rowing club in Tigre but I never met one. To have 3 here is beyond belief.
You sound like C Poppy, conqueror, Leprecon, Blair, Bush and bloody Rumsfield :)))
Yanki turnip says:
” There is a Swedish Rowing club in Tigre .......
I say:
It's a SCANDINAVIAN Rowing Club, you Yanki Turnip!
www.remerosescandinavos.org.ar/
Been a member for ages!
In the old times we used to sink the boats of those haughty British from the Rowing Club Argentino...
rowingclubargentino.com.ar/
Great fun :-)))
I still never met 1 in the whole time I was there, not 1.
Isn't it bothersome to keep logging in and out?
their problem.
As long as the British pound is high,
Who cares.
Yanki turnip says:
I still never met 1 (Scandinavian) in the whole time I was there, not 1.
I say:
That must be one of the reasons why we, Scandinavians, are the luckliest people on Earth..
This is an obscure web site, the number of people who post is relatively few, there are VERY VERY FEW people of Scandinavian descent living in or associated with Argentina, to have 3 here posting regularly I think you would need a cray computer to come up with the odds. The odds are much better to get struck by lightening and I have never met anyone that happened to either.
Would it not..
Justa thought.
.
You are suffering from belly-button complex as well? Why on earth would Scandinavians have a site on the Malvinas/Falklands?
then again guzz
why would a scandinavian be interested in this site.
What is your point?
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_danesa_en_Argentina
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_sueca_en_Argentina
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_noruega_en_Argentina
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_finlandesa_en_Argentina
I would estimate that they are some 70~80,000 Argentinean citizen’s with double Scandinavian nationalities, currently living in Argentina….
I’m one of them…..
Don't you worry lad, Argentina will most definately not cry for you, I would be amazed if even the dogs would shed a tear :))
80,000 x 2% know about this site
1600 of that 50% know English
800 of that 25% are fluent enough to post in English
200 5% care enough to post
10 of that 5% are retournados
.5
and these % are overly optimistic
Do you see why there is no way there could be 3?
Almost every Scandinavian is fluent enough in english to post in a thread, especially to keep up with you lot, that would require 4th grade primary school...
I told you I was being generous with the %. I bet it is much less than 50%.
If you can refute that with some stat show me.
And yet another Anglo Turnip that wanted to retire like a Feudal Lord in a foreign Country with his few dollars.....
Geeeee man....
I'm so fed up of you lot .....
From Mexico's Merida to Mendoza's Malargüe .....you are a bunch of old whiners that don't contribute a iota to the Countries you move into.
As Guzz rightly said.....
Have a safe trip home.....
I'll gladly take care of the dogs for you...
Plus there are lots of other variable I have not taken into consideration
.5 is WIDELY OPTIMISTIC.
The most damaging for you is if 2% know about this site. It is really much much less than that.
Mine was an example with simple math and overly optimistic % IN YOUR FAVOR of why there can't be 3 posters here
Yours is a distraction making you look foolish.
kinda made my point huh?
How many of them cares about the Malvinas/Falklands? Too few...
How many of them knows about Mercopress? Even fewer...
Conclusion, you have multiple accounts and possible personalities as well...
So 3 out of +/- 330MM. I would guess the odd are about the same as a Scandinavian retournado english speaker who hates the USA and UK.
Oh yeah I forgot that in the equations.
You are exposed
Using MercoPress’s archive function I could find six “certified” Scandinavian speaking posters:
1) ”Mr. Think” , a pure Argie of pure Scandinavian stock.
2) ”Jon Valur Jensson” a bright Icelander pretty much on Argentina’s corner…
3) ”Skare” a Norwegian/Danish hunk, pretty much on the UK’s corner…
4) ”Mr. Guzz”, a left wing Swedish/Uruguayan without a drop of Scandinavian blood in his body; but clearly positioned on the ”Goodies” side…
5) “Mr. StJohn”, a Dane playing for the British team…
6) “Mr. MaxAue”, another Dane playing for the Baddies….
That gives a total of six Scandinavians……
Three on the right side….
Three on the wrong side…
How typical Scandinavian ;-)
I got to admit though, I do dislike USA an inch or two, but that's personal I guess...
BTW What search terms did you use to go through the archives?
Let me see if I can repeat it.
When I want to be able to find a post, I place a easily remembered word or world combination on it.
Like:
Bagsværdian...
Or Kelperette....
Or Squatterette....
You may try with “Bleached Argentinean Wife”, for instance.....
Chuckle chuckle©
Joy
Argentina's grade is FF not BB
but it can and keeps borrowing .
Wouldn't one?
P a t h e t i c
Many many posted here YouTube videos and links before,but it's worth remembering so as to not allow these things to happen again.
Don't let this happen in your own country . Do something before reaching the point of no return.
Any resemblances with current event in USA is a freakish coincidence and is likely to cause insomnia.
There are no Scandinavians in Argentina except tourists, erasmus-students and maybe FEW, third or fourth generation descents. Most of the blonde people are descents of NAZIS, the tens of thousands who were welcomed there open arms with all the stolen cold and jewelry.
The Scandinavian or whatever rowing club doesn't make sense, since Scandinavian countries are not one and a same. Its's like having a Balkan rowing club, or Baltic rowing club or Asian rowing club,
it's just a name.
That tigre you were talking about is one filthy place, dead fishes floating in the river and people people fishing and having a picnic in the lawn full of garbage.
Burp!
;)
93
Bøvs!
;-)
Kinda my point
Think and Guzz are one in the same pathetic loser. wait for one of teh other niks to join in to say they are not the same person and they have met both in person.,
P A T H E T I C
Juppppp......
A Tudekiks for the Tudefjæs... ;-)
BTW what were the search terms to find the “other” Scandinavians. Seriously curious...
Retard
Were you talking to my little bitch? That's no way to refer to your mother. Shame on you!
I'm off to check out some fresh moose tracks, adios mofos.
I run away from the socialist dystopia of Scandinavia to live here in Argentina. This site has some really good articles in English,
As far as the Island to the south here, call it what you want I do not have a dog in the fight and I have no desire to ever go there.
Saying that it is funny to se how this Fascist government (Peronist) is using it to get the focus away from domestic issues, like inflation, dept, declining infrastructure, sidewalks falling to bits, crime and soon to be failed state status. “Forgetting” that they no longer have any military to ever take it back. At the same time the Brits with their own inflation, dept, declining infrastructure, sidewalks falling to bits, crime and soon to be failed state status do not have the military force to ever protect it after scrapping their forces too.
Like I said I do not have a dog in this fight and frankly do not care! But it is funny! Give them bred and circus and they forget who is to blame for their own misery!
Back to the subject of this article...
“Dollar clamp” in Argentina extended to all outgoing tourists”
Having spent 3 years back and forward in the country it is quite amazing to see some people not living there saying it is no clamp down, Queen K is not lying and so on, even more hilarious is that somebody that live here actually support her!
I KNOW about the election and so on, I need no lecture! And frankly it so easy even a joke in Venezuela can do it; steel from the rich and give to the poor and the poor vote for you. And Queen K and Hugo the madman have imported poor from other counties and given them right to vote, come to think of it so has Scandinavian the UK and the US, shit they all are doing it!! jejeje Always works for a while.
But like Maggie said; the problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money to spend! AND THERE is my point; Queen K has nearly reached the stage where there is noth
We have a word for people like you here in Denmark: Leaches!
CFK is 100% right about the dollar issue.
What a sucky “newspaper” this one is!!!
But like Maggie said; the problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money to spend! AND THERE is my point; Queen K has nearly reached the stage where there is nothing left to steel and the entire house of cards are coming down. Only reason the game is not over long time ago is that the rest of the world are not doing to well the last few year either (to put it mildly!).
But in Argentina the game is soon up. You can feel it in the street, see it in the faces and hear it in the voices, most people know “something” is coming soon, and it will not be pretty!
You can fool most of the people sometime, you can fool some of the people all the time, but you can not fool all the people all the time!
Personally I think that when the summer holyday and people can not get USD it will be “interesting” if not before, we have the pot banging coming up, the media law, and the regular daily strikes and struggle.
We certainly are live in interesting times, and Argentina is definitely an interesting place!
I totally agree that there are people on this forum that are paid trolls, or else they are just morons.
TLV
I might be a leach, but you are a leech...
Barf.
You say:
“I run away from the socialist dystopia of Scandinavia to live here in Argentina.”
I say:
Woooow; Scandinavian No.: 7 in this forum... How nice....
But......................
Just to convince some sceptical souls in here.......
Would you mind translating some of your own words in your “Scandinavian” language?
Try this easy ones:
“I run away from the socialist dystopia of Scandinavia to live here in Argentina. This site has some really good articles in English”
Don't worry, Mr. MaxAue is proficient in Danish, Mr. Guzz in Swedish, and I can “somehow manage” Norwegian and even some Finnish.
Give it your best shot, mate
Make us Scandinavians proud of you;-)
Think you are nuts and need serious counseling.
Shhhhhh,,,
Don't tell anybody, but I suspec Mr. “The Last Viking” to be a false RG scandinavian......
Let's see if he passes the test... shall we?
When will the Argentine economy finally implode?
“The administration of President Cristina Fernandez has been tightening the control over the sale and purchase of foreign currency since a year ago to try and stem the outflow of dollars which are needed to pay for imports and honour foreign debt.”
I mean, shades of 1984 here. TMBOA is clearly insane and can not be trusted with the taking from a school tuck shop.
So when is the timebomb going to go off? 6 months? 12 months?? I'm going to to say May 2013. Yes, May and then the population will storm the palace and have KFC's head on a pike.
You say:
“Jeg flyktet fr(a) det sosialistiske, snyltende, helvet(e)s dritt sosialist landet for å bosette meg I Argentina.
Dette nettstedet har (x)noen virkelig bra arti(x)kler på Engelsk”
Bra nok for deg?
Well…….. Your Norwegian spelling and diction stink, but as everybody in Scandinavia knows, Norwegians are not so good at intellectual tasks…
Welcome to the Scandinavian Club, mate….
You may freely continue to trash and belittle the Country you were born in and the Country you apparently have chosen to live in.
Says lots about you though…..
Who said anything about that? I probably paid and pay more taxes than you, and being rude is not a good way to start a conversation. And frankly have nothing with this subject to do.
I explained some of the differences between Socialism in Europe and South America. Crazy Hugo and Queen K would love to copy Europe’s control, and that is what they try now, just as the Socialist system is crumbling in Europe!
And no, Europe is going down the drain because people come from all over the world to live of the taxes I and the rest of hard working Europeans already have paid.
In Europe you turn up at the door and cry and the government give you all you want, but this system is coming to an end now. The productive people are just cashing out and leaving, no point working so the riff-rafts can live on the benefits.
In Argentina on the other hand, with is the subject of the article it is even worse, because it is a cleptocracy, and that is even less sustainable and coming to an end, soon!
@124
;)
That leaves... China for you next??
No, I think I will stay here and watch the firework, will be quite entertaining ;)
And hopefully when it ends the people will wake up and get somebody sane inn office, Argentina should be a rich country, just need a new management.
TLV
Don't worry about that, watch and learn :)
In my opinion they want Argentina to crash and burn but really burn to teach other countries what happens when they don't respect the rule of law.
You say:
“the Socialist system is crumbling in Europe!”
I say:
No, what is crumbling in Europe is a sick financial sector....
You are just blaming the social sector for the failings of the finacial sector.
Is Norway “Crumbling?... I don't ”Think“ so.
Is Sweden ”Crumbling?... I don't “Think” so.
Is Denmark “Crumbling?... I don't ”Think“ so.
Is Finland ”Crumbling?... I don't “Think” so.
Is Germany “Crumbling?... I don't ”Think“ so.
Is Holland ”Crumbling?... I don't “Think” so.
Du synes sikkert det lyder innmari kult ut, men det er bare løgn...........
am i so stupid ?
ı want you write these sentences again in true grammar form
not
to say some true written words might be from internet translation.
Odd that the one scandinavian country that did not follow the model above, Iceland, went broke. And they are as blond as any scandos. Or look how the only German banks that failed are also those that adopte the anglo model.
Which proves that countries crumble when their banking system is allowed to gamble away the people's savings and the entire economy.
Even notice in the southern european economie a similar case: the two countries that had banking systems that gambled the House on bets, Spain and Greece, are in far worse social shape (because the banks either failed or need to be “rescued” on the backs of the people), yet Portugal and especially Italy, while in severe recession, are no where near in a despearate shape socially speaking.
The anglo-saxon banking model was an utter disaster, the dumbest idea ever.
Eventually people got “FED” up with it, and central banking was seen as a way to reign in the casino.
my dear friend
i didnt say lets discuss these sentences ,just said wanting to write in correct grammar form..but you couldnt do it.
if you know and understand the Scandinavian languages then you
comprehend even these few sentences bunch is more valuable than all other comments in this forum ..believe me my dear mate !
Anyway ,your unique language English is very fluent ,please go on with it ,dont upset your form.
Britain falling to bits?? are you sure it wasn't some other country?
There are too many weird hippies in those countries.
This forum is packed with retards...
and people stop writing in 100 different languages, this forum is in:
!!!!!!”ENGLISH!!!!!!!
This is too much :))))) Cheers guys, it's been a pleisure, but this is as much insanity as I can take for a while :)))))
If you travel for science or education or trading olive oil-this is what happens: www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120904/lt-trapped-in-argentina/
Do they know that In N America a person can travel the continent freely?
Do not divagate from topic you nincompoop.
What thesaurus?
What “mythological figure”?
just a troll
canadaonline.about.com/od/customs/a/customsmoney.htm
“amounts of CAN$10,000 or more must be reported to customs at the Canadian border.
Failure to report amounts totalling CAN$10,000 or more may result in seizure of the money and penalties of CAN$250 to CAN$5000.”
”If you are carrying a total of CAN$10,000 (or its equivalent) or more - in coins, domestic and foreign bank notes, securities such as travellers cheques, stocks and bonds - you must complete a Cross-Border Currency or Monetary Instruments Report - Individual Form E677 (in PDF). If the money is not your own, you should complete Form E667 Cross-Border Currency or Monetary Instruments Report - General (in PDF). The form should be signed and handed to a customs officer.
Completed forms are sent to the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada (FINTRAC) for assessment and analysis.”
Maybe Argentine should add coins, domestic and foreign bank notes, securities such as travellers cheques, stocks and bonds to meet world standards.
Family and guests use something called a door.
Money laundering and terrorist financing are international problems. Money laundering in Canada alone is estimated to be in the billions of dollars. To help fight these criminal activities, the Government of Canada has introduced the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act.
Under the new legislation, there are no restrictions on the amount of money that you can bring into or take out of Canada, nor is it illegal to do so. However, you now have to report to a customs officer amounts equal to or greater than CAN$10,000 that you are bringing into or taking out of Canada.
”canadaonline.about.com/od/customs/a/customsmoney.htm
“amounts of CAN$10,000 or more must be reported to customs at the Canadian border.
Failure to report amounts totalling CAN$10,000 or more may result in seizure of the money and penalties of CAN$250 to CAN$5000.”
Pretty much a standard at borders - stops large scale criminal activity, by limiting untraceable cash.
Payments and money transfers can still be done with Credit cards, ATM,
bank drafts, cheques etc.
You are posting partial information to be deliberately misleading.
If you have to lie to make your point, YOUR ARGUMENT IS BASICALLY FLAWED!
We've been over this before, there is no 15% tax on money leaving or entering Canada, like there is in Argentina. There is no spending limit placed on outgoing Canadian tourists, there is no 50% tax on ALL returning goods.
Canadians can transfer/save/buy/sell, any currency in or out of the country, US Dollars or whatever.
We are not forced to save in CDN $$ - in fact they are increasing in value against all other currencies - a safe haven. Argentina has annual inflation of 25% ??
Canadians and Americans can cross whenever they like and as many times as they like, in a year, and buy as much $$$ as they like, whenever they feel like it.
Quote the $10,000 CASH limit as much as you like (are you intimidated by Canadian Authorities?), IT IS NOT AT ALL LIKE ARGENTINA.
US/Mexico is not like Argentina !!!
Of course, ALEX, you know about the Canadian border - if YOU leave, YOU can't come back. Criminal?? Illegal immigrant???
Sitting here in Canada, you are impotent, and obsessed with the border.
Yet you won't even occupy the Ghanian High Commission offices in Toronto, the way you were inciting the people of BA to stage an illegal sit-in, at the consulate there.
Fail
Oops, doesn't live in Denmark...
Are there paid trolls on this site? I have not been here long enough to know, but that Queen K’s minions troll the net and get paid are a know fact. I would think a site like this will be a prime target for said operatives.
On the flip side, are there Scandinavians that could be mistaken for (Argie) government paid trolls? Obviously! Shit, the amount of brainwashed people in that part of the world run in the millions, millions! So there are probably genuine Scandinavians here that think Queen K’s madness is completely rational, and even good policy! Trying to hold an argument about economy with a socialist is near impossible because socialism like its watermelon offshoot, environmentalist, is a faith, a religion not a political point of view.
@143Why leave a comfortable socialist country where you do not even have to work if you do not want to? Some of us see socialism as an evil parasitical and unsustainable system and decide that we will have no part of it and leave. Some places you can leave, like Europe, some places like North Korea and Cuba you can’t. Me I really like Argentina, it is actually more European than Europe! The “socialism” here is not socialism like in Europe, like I said earlier it is a cleptocracy! The people here I do not find arrogant at all, but then I have lived a few years in France, jeje.
@130The problem is the politicians and especially the current regime, they have destroyed the middle class and now there is hardly anything left to steel so they start to get despe
As for my later posts, it's merely an acceptance to Max' invitation...
“It's not like the common folk has savings in dollars anyway.”
And they never will with anus lips running the country either. Your from the jungles up north anyway, exploiting the Danes, so why does it matter....a paid troll?
Got a few Scandinavians on here now.
Hope they expose some of Squatter Think's more blatent lies.
Oh btw, l take full resposibility & credit for flushing Herr Think out.
l knew that he was a Scandinavian by his grammar & spelling.
Where is spunky Skåre? Well he sounds spunky!!!
You did not miss much.
It was Guzz trying his Danish language out.
Lo and behold she now lives and works in Rio and is currently seconded to Buenos Aires. It'll be interesting to hear the views of an auditor on the current Argentine shambles.
Funny what you said about the Frenchies, u find them arrogant and Argies not. My experience is totally the opposite, i have never met a arrogant French, i think it's a stereotype, but argies, i don't like them.
Besides France is beautiful and clean just like Great Britain. Argentina is not, lol.
I think you come across as rather fatuous for using the sentence “It'll be interesting to hear the views of an auditor on the current Argentine shambles.” Do you seem like an open-minded, even tendencious though fair observer of human folly?
You already have made up your mind, long long long ago. You have shown your inordinate bias here and elsewhere.
@173
Who are you kidding? Haggling is extremely popular in the USA.
Really? Well I've visited the US many times, and been to about half of the US states, and I never saw any haggling. Not in stores, and not in street markets.
I wonder, have you every actually been to the USA, because from your post it doesn't sound like it.
As regards to the actual thread, I hope the people of Argentina wake up soon, and stop this government before they take total control of the whole country and curb all civil liberties.
Yes, you had a horrible time there, does that lone fact signify your opinion does not count? You would probably answer with “no”.
Ergo... if you had “heard” good/neutral things hitherto, could it be possible, just possible, those people were also being honest? Or does their opinion not count to you, or are they mere fibs, because they juxtapose incongruosly with the anti-argie narrative here?
“son arrogantes” etc... but i thought they were just jealous, because the other countries aren't exactly paradises either and i though Argentina is something better. I was wrong they were right. Argentinians are arrogant and the country is no better than the rest of em. I also learned Argentinians are annoyingly stupid, i just can't stand stupid people.
Besides it doesn't solve anything, the current leaders will be replaced by others equally bad. Argentina has no hope, it's the Argentina syndrome, they will always remain as they are now, and the history will repeat itself.
An aspirin works .....
An idiot savant is a Brit, but useful somehow.
As for Argentina it is a banana republic, and will always be. Personally I like it like that, it makes life more interesting! Most things work now and then but when you wake up you never knows what the day will bring. Maybe you have a power cut, maybe a riot. Crossing 9th of July in a car migth suddenly take a day because there is a major strike in town. Busses suddenly stop; subway goes on strike for a week, even the kids in school are striking today! One night the border patrol raid every bar in town, the next day they go on strike and close of their own headquarter. Shit, it is more adventure in a week than you get in most countries in a lifetime! You can write a book and people would not believe it.
But the current Looney Tunes that run the place are as bad as it can possibly be before collapsing. I think only Crazy Hugo can up them! And this regime it is definitively coming to an end, but they will not go quietly. I got popcorn and beer ready!
what a diplomat!!!!!!
www.ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=658645
¡El que no salta es un inglés! te vamos a cantarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Månefiskeren has always been closed on Mondays ;-)
www.nydailynews.com/news/world/argentina-appoints-60-soft-core-film-star-isabel-sarli-government-ambassador-article-1.1183660
Does anyone find what is the “bad” part of this story, allegedly?
Perhaps he is upset at gazing at pictures of zaftig sylphs in their heyday. Maybe he'd rather have this guy appointed in his country:
www.richardsimmonsdvds.com/0_61_320_Simmons2.jpg
By the way, love the name, We got your Fragata
@198, thanks for the compliment on the name Captain Poppy I teach at 2 universities here (Universidad de Palermo and Universidad Torcuato Di Tella ) here we have 2 exchange students from Ghana and they are very nice people and feel very bad about what happened. There are some Argie students that are being very mean to them. I advised them to register with the embassy here from South Africa, since there is no embassy to Ghana here and the South African embassy handles affairs for their country. There is a lot of hostility towards foreigners now, especially from the UK, USA and now Ghana. The streets here are very scary, now the big cacerolazo is planned for November 8th and the 7 of December is the day Kretina is going to try and expropiate Clarin they say that the days between November 8th and December 7th are going to be very dangerous, I am trying to get out of Buenos Aires, I contact colleagues in other countries, but I don't know if I can get the money to get away. If I can't I will hide inside on those days like a lot of other people.
PUNTOS DE CONVOCATORIA EN EL EXTERIOR - LUGARES CONFIRMADOS:
ESPAÑA, 20hs (horario local)
-MADRID - CONSULADO DE ARGENTINA - Serrano Nº 90
-BARCELONA - CONSULADO DE ARGENTINA
DIRECCIÓN: Paseo de Gracia 11, 2º Piso, Escalera B
08007 Barcelona – España
-PALMA DE MALLORCA - Consulado Argentino - Sant Miquel 30, 4º C Palma
-MALAGA - Avda principal y calle Larios.
EEUU, 18hs (horario local)
-MIAMI BEACH – Colins y la 73 calle, frente al restaurant Manolo's. Pleno corazon de la Pequeña Argentina en Miami Beach.
-Washington DC, VA, MD y metro area
1600 New Hampshire Avenue Northwest Washington
-NEW YORK - Consulado Argentino en NYC 12 West 56th Street, (entre 5ta. & 6ta. Ave) New York, NY el 8 de Noviembre a las 6PM.
-BOSTON, Massachusetts, Downtown Crossing, 18hs hora local.
-CHICAGO - Consulado argentino - 205 N. Michigan Ave, suite 4209, 6PM
ALEMANIA
-HAMBURGO. Frente al Consulado. Mittelweg 141
D-20148 Hamburg.
BRASIL
-RIO DE JANEIRO: Frente al Consulado Argentino. Praia de Botafogo, 228 slj. 201, Botafogo.
-BELO HORIZONTE, frente al consulado 20hs. Rua Ceará 1566, 6to. andar.
CANADÁ
-TORONTO - Consulado de Argentina - 5001 Yonge Street a las 7 PM - HORA LOCAL
CHILE
-VALPARAISO - Consulado Argentino en Valparaiso - Chile. Blanco 890 (con Gomez Carreño)
-SANTIAGO, en Plaza Italia a las 19 horas.
COLOMBIA:
-BOGOTA – PARQUE EL VIRREY FRENTE A ILLY – 8N – 18,00 HS
ITALIA
-ROMA - CONSULADO ARGENTINO- Via Vittorio Veneto, 7 - 2do. Piso - 00183 ROMA - 19 HS. PUNTO DE ENCUENTRO: PIAZZA FRENTE AL CONSULADO
ISRAEL
-TEL AVIV. Medinat Hayehudim 85 3rd. Floor 46120, Herzliya Pituach, Israel
MEXICO
- DF Embajada - Av Paseo de las Palmas 1685 , Colonia Lomas de Chapultepec, México DF
REINO UNIDO
-LONDRES - EMBAJADA ARGENTINA - 65 BROOK STREET LONDON WIK 4AH 19 HS
And Uruguay and Venezula
It shows our country has a lot of respect for diversity.
And that is called free expression 201, you can be against gov and express it.
Your ambassador is crying sorrryyyyy, sorrrryyyyy, waw, waw, waw, waw
U.S. & Canada border crossing:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Peace_Arch_Monument,_Canada_-_USA_border.JPG
It is claim of all gov.
We dont use wars, invading other countries, we dont use Malvinas either.
Why did brits came to USA? To skip persecution from their own brethrens.
Why did Americans invented planes??? They couldn't run away fast enough from their british cousin's.
Why did nasa buld space ships???? There was no brits in space.
And why can't most british swim?? Because feces doesn't float,
they can become excellent divers.
You have no legitimate claims to the Falklands, malen.
You know that you haven't.
And, surprise, surprise, you will NEVER get them.
@212 PH,
Bit early for you, niño. early start for school?,
peanut-brain!
You know very little of history don't you. Let me educate you.
The Puritans didn't leave Britain to escape persecution, they left because they weren't allowed to persecute people anymore (like they did under the dictatorship of Oliver Cromwell).
But lets put this into perspective. What has Argentina ever contributed to the world except the biro (an excellent invention).
Here's some of the things the British have contributed:
Computers
The world wide web
Vaccines
Telephones
Television
Antiseptics
Antibiotics
Industrialisation
Plastic surgery
Heart transplants
The concept of innocent until proven guilty
Trial by a jury of 12
The jet engine
Ejector seats
Water desalination
Modern sewerage and drainage systems (every major city in the world has a sewerage system based on London)
Steam engines
1st acurate atomic clock
Marine chronometer (which allows ships to navigate)
Pencils
Christmas cards
Valentines day cards
Radar
Typewriters
Automated Teller Machines and Personal Indentification Numbers
Fibre-optics in telecoms
DNA fingerprinting
Fingerprinting
World's 1st DNA database
Iris recognition
Microchips (for computers not McCains)
Universal joint
Adjustable spanners
Fire extinguishers
Postage stamps
The modern flusing toilet
Stainless steel
CT Scanner
1st blood transfusion
Discovered nitrous oxide and its use as an anaesthetic
In fact the list is so long that I could go on all day.
Think about it PH, next time you get a vaccination, or take antibiotics, you have the British to thank for it. Next time you turn on your computer and log on to the internet, you can thank the British.
Next time you get on an aeroplane and look at the jet engine, you can thank the British.
You can also thank the US for they have also made huge contributions to the world, but Argentina its the biro and some joint research on the cross matching of blood.
As for your last paragraph, amusing - I can be funny too. Why can Argentinians swim? Because their ships always sink.
I like the one where an Argentine general spotted a British Para on a hill in the Falklands, so he sends a Section to capture him, 1 hour later when they have not come back, he sends a Platoon. Another hour passes they do not come back, so he sends a Company. Anyway another hour passes and they do not come back, so he sends a Battalion. Eventualy a bedraggled Argentine soldier comes crawling down the hill and shouts, “ Generalo. Generalo get back, get back it's an ambush! there's two of them.”
You probably heard something similiar before, just adapted it.
Mexico-U.S. border:
www.core.org.cn/NR/rdonlyres/Political-Science/17-559Fall-2004/F10D8D31-BFFC-4E5C-828C-92BB1B2AA0E7/0/chp_usmex_border.jpg
Canada-U.S. border
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Peace_Arch_Monument,_Canada_-_USA_border.JPG
Yup, I remember that joke doing the rounds in '82. It's still as funny today as it was then! LOL
And with that statement you claim to be... educated? smart?
hahahahaha. Why can't you admit you know nothing about Argentina. NOTHING. Why do you have to pretend you know anything and better yet, more than argentines themselves? How pathetically arrogant is that?
Do YOU believe that Argentina should take The Falkland Islands??
TTT said “no” when asked directly.
By their argument Canada has a dollar clamp on the US dollars too.
Hypocrites
customs at the Canadian
Failure to report amounts totalling CAN$10,000 or more may result in seizure of the money and penalties of CAN$250 to
If you are carrying a total of CAN$10,000 (or its equivalent) or more - in coins, domestic and foreign bank notes, securities such as travellers cheques, stocks and bonds - you must complete a Cross-Border Currency or Monetary Instruments Report - Individual Form E677 (in PDF).
canadaonline.about.com/od/customs/a/customsmoney.htm
www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
When a government stops its people from freely buying dollars to leave the country (whether on holiday or business) and have dogs specially trained to sniff out dollars then you know there is a dollar clamp.
You also know that the government are restricting the civil liberties of its own people.
You would understand this if you actually lived in Argentina instead of in Canada.
Most countries in the world have a cap of about £10,000 dollars. And the only part of your post that is partially correct is the bit about preventing illegal dealings. You see, PH, honest business dealings are done by electronic money transfers.
However, unlike Canada it other countries, Argentina has severely restricted the amount of dollars people can buy, AND they make the process of acquiring those dollars extremely difficult and overly complicated.
Encouraging people to holiday in Argentina is fine, but the Argentine government are FORCING people to holiday in Argentina, once again curbing their civil rights to choose for themselves.
Tell me PH, if you love Argentina so much why don't you go and live there? Why do you live in Canada? It's easy to support a government and it's policies when you don't have to live under that governments rule.
Go and lie in Argentina for a while, then come back Otis forum and tell us whether it's the land of milk and honey.
ARGENTINE DOLLAR CLAMP IS AS TOUGH AS EVER AS THEY ARE DENYING DOLLARS TO TRAVELERS NOW
l was always under the impression that the biro was invented by Ladizlo Biro, a Hungarian.
I stand corrected.
So Argentina has invented - nothing!
I'm looking for useful things they invented! LOL
Are we sure that pi-rat does actually live in Canada, its a bit like accepting that Sussie-US lives in the US and Aussie-sunshine lives in Australia.
Sorry to contradict you, but an Englishman called Francis Galton (a cousin of Charles Darwin!) invented fingerprinting? He was an anthropologist and a polymathy.
Did the Argentines actually invent anything?
and no, Farces is not a typing error.
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