NML-Capital offers to pay for repatriation of ARA Libertad crew members
In a PR stunt the US fund NML-Capital offered to fly back free of charge all crew members of the Argentine training frigate ARA Libertad retained in Ghana, but reiterated that to release the vessel Argentina must deposit a 20million dollars bail.
According to the Buenos Aires media in a letter from the solicitors’ office representing NML Capital in Accra, Bentsi-Enchill, Letsa & Ankomah addressed to Argentina’s legal defence Larry Otoo, it indicates that “our client has no intention of causing inconveniences” to the crew members.
For this reason, “even in the absence of a bail deposit, NML-Capital can, with immediate effect, pay all costs so that sailors and cadets can fly back to their respective countries”, says the letter signed by Ace Anan Ankomah.
The letter with copy to all the main officers from the Ghana government dedicates several paragraphs to try and display good will vis-à-vis Argentina’s international moves to try and release the Navy vessel, an asset belonging to a sovereign nation.
“We must recall that in its 2 October ruling the Honourable Court, aware of the possible consequences of its order, explicitly gave Argentina the chance to liberate the frigate ARA Libertad” says the letter adding that NML Capital “does not oppose the vessel abandoning Ghana as long as your client deposits a bail of 20 million dollars”
The figure is reasonable since “it represents less than 5% of the full claim of our client before the court” in the US together with Dart, the other fund involved in the demand.
“We regret we haven’t received any formal reply yet to our offer. Anyhow we have taking note as it was indicated to the court on 9 October, that your client does not seem willing to deposit a bail”, adds the letter.
However “we still believe there is an opportunity for Argentina to deposit bail in court and obtain the immediate release of the vessel”. Apparently the solicitors in Ghana who were contracted by Argentina’s New York legal office Cleary, Gottieb, Steen & Hamilton, had not replied to the NML letter.
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NML are doing the decent, humanitarian thing and paying to fly them home - this is a problem created by the CFK government.
Pirat-ALEX VARGAS, You're not much on being a humanitarian, are you?
- you don't care about these kids that were abandoned by their government
- you want to wipe out an entire peaceful island population, and take their homes
- you support a Dictator, CFK, who says her people should feed themselves on 6 pesos per day
- you support Gaddaffy, a Dictator who sponsored state terrorism against civilian men women and children by bombing their plane, and other acts
- you support Gaddaffy murdering his own people with the army, and hired mercenaries to harrass the refugees fleeing their homes.
- you want a nuke program to inflict heavy loss of life and suffering on civilian populations
- what other destruction of society do you wish upon the world??
- What do you think of Syria murdering, torturing, and shelling their own civilians??
- did you know that Mao killed more Chinese than the Japanese did in WWII ??
and you commit petty crimes against your neighbours and hosts in Canada, where you live in comfort, counselling violence and death against people in other countries!!
You are NO humanist, just an angry child.
It's no surprise that you are “not big on Christmas”
A stirring real life story of 3 outgunned and outranged RN vessels taking on the German Battleship Graff Spee off the River Plate in 1940.
It'll be nice for the cadets to see how real sailors work together under extreme conditions.
My favourite line from the Commodore to HMS Exeter which has been badly damaged in the encounter.
Commodore to Exeter's Captain, “Can you make it to the Falkland Islands to effect repairs?”
Exeter's Captain to Commodore, “Can make it to Plymouth, if ordered to do so.”
Yup, we'll done Exeter, Achillies and Ajax.
However back to the thread. Yup NML have pulled a blinder of a PR stunt here. We are not an unfeeling, in human vulture fund. We care about people and will even pay for these people to get home.
In fact the only thing keeping these guys there is CFKs misplaced pride.
Sadly, CFKC is too mentally challenged to realise the long-term consequences of this. She wants the shiny toy back and cannot see that she is demonstrating to everyone that investing in Argentina would be throwing money away. Stupid, stupid woman.
Cfk is off her rocker, the whole world knows it and the whole world knows Argentina is a deadbeat and a scofflaw.
FDI is gone for as long as she is ruling and maybe a lot longer than that,
Their economy doesn't' generate enough trade to pay for the standard of living they have been accustomed to stealing.
Reality is intruding on their mass delusions and it is going to get really bad there rather quickly.
USA is counting on Brazil to contain the coming economic and political melt down but I wonder if they will step up?
I am betting by the mid part of next year we will see a different groupspeak from the Rg posters.
We shall see.
When I speak to friends in Buenos Aires - even K supporters - they are nervous and annoyed about the state of their country and the future.
The sky may fall on out heads tomorrow.....
But tomorrow never comes......
Chief Vitalstatistix.....
Have you been to Argentina since the 70s?
I doubt it.
Different group speak? Argentina has been anti-American for 100 years, anti-British for 70 years, anti-European for 10-15 years, and anti-Chinese for 4 years. And the anti-___ will only increase. We can't stand any of you as you are not worthy societies in almost any respect.
@12
Those are some mighty claims there. Why don't you prove them? Oh that's right, that famous British mentality I adduced to in the other article, which makes your society so putrid.
So if I say you are a meretricious Colombian woman-entrepeneur dabbling in the world of international diplomacy, how do you disprove what I just said?
Though I'm guessing you thought this was a complement.
I think I know the answer.
what sad sad creatures Rgs are...
Well, what choice do we have? Your country certainly is not an option, culturally, human rights wise, and no longer economically, so...
Don't get mad at the messenger if your country is sliding on all fronts.
You know I was thinking about something you posted awhile ago about how great Mendoza was doing, new highways, dams blah blah blah and I thought gosh I don't know any new dams or highways where I live. Then I thought it is because they just happen, they aren't newsworthy, nobody pays any attention. A new dam? good gracious is this the 1800s?
How embarrassing.
Sad part is though Argentina won't be able to fund anything new for a long long time after losing WB and IDB loans. A LONG LONG TIME. You'll probably be retired or dead before you see a new road or dam again.
You see little loser, in my part of the world we use dams for hydro, as Argentina being an environmental healthy country uses this type of energy more than almost all other countries.
Not only can they produce power, but Mendoza is a semi-desert (I know the city with the million trees belies that fact), so any new dam is another safeguard in drought years. So of course new dams here are a big story.
Compare that to US dams, which as you said correctly, were built in the 1800s, and not been REPAIRED SINCE. Did you know there have been more dam failures in the USA in the last 25 years than in the prior 200 combined? Do you know 30% of your bridges are technically fit for closure from traffic because of disrepair? Do you know they are converting paved roads to gravel in 40 states because they can't afford to repave them? Do you want me to bring that article?
I'd say it is more embarrasing to be in the state given what you claim to be. Which more and more is legends of your own minds.
I would think we probably over paved a bunch of roads that never should have been in the first place. Sometimes gravel is better, environmentally safer as you might say, easier to maintain or something.
I don't really know and again it is not something we think about because we did all of that 50 or 100 yrs ago. Now it just being maintained.
I have been all over the world and have not seen better yet.
Whatever floats your boat. If you think that of your country fine. But don't come insult my country.
And go ask Californians if a new dam or a new waterway is not “big news”. Perhaps you live in an area with plentiful rainwater, but in any desert, semidesert, or rain-shadow region (Mendoza is the latter), they are big news.
Funny, maybe if you had a few more dams in the USA central region... you would still have a corn crop. Oops, too bad.
Baaaaad choice.....
As we all know, the Tu-154 has a max. range of ~6,500 km.
As we all know, the dist. from ACC to BUE is ~7,500 km.....
I would strongly reccomend an Ilyushin-96...
I think they care in Mexico about the price of corn, probably in your filthy backward country too but not here. We just go on and nobody notices any difference in their lives.
That's the difference in a developed country and and undeveloped country.
BTW I think they need some water management in BA province I hear 1/3 of the farmland is under water.
I also hear due to CFKs terrible policies they expect 17% less wheat crop this year. I don't think that is enough for any exports...
Do you like barley bread?
I hear it is tasty!
Hahaha, “market protections”, which have cost you 130 billion in 10 years directly, and over 400-500 billion in overpaying especially for “ethanol” from corn.
You don't notice huh? That's partly why you are on the edge of fiscal annihilation. Enjoy it.
Barley bread? Wheat is plentiful and cheap, everyone can get it. No problems.
Better stock up,
I don't believe in using food for energy it is bad policy and immoral. Pretty sure it will be fixed soon though. But I didn't feel it. I can travel anywhere I want and anytime I want. Can you?
loser
I think Chicureo knows full well the range of the plane and the trip distance.
As usual you miss the point.
BTW @16 you wrote:
“The sky may fall on out (Sic: our) heads tomorrow” English 102
Just another little error was it?
Little turnip.
As usual you miss the point.
Bahahahaha
p a t h e t i c
And what then is Argentina?
A country who borrowed money, promising to pay it back, then refuses. That's stealing. So NML try to recoup some of their loses from Argentina by sending in the bailiffs.
Argentina is an unremitting debtor, who had flouted international law and just plain common decency to repay money that was loaned to them in good faith.
Argentina needs to accept that this situation was brought about by YOUR government. The same government that REFUSES to accept ANY responsibility for its actions. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it? In this case NML and Ghana's.
Well Argentina shouldn't have borrowed the money if it couldn't pay it back.
You have sown the wind, now reap the whirlwind.
The bad publicity is a big deal, not confidence inspiring for any organisation interested in investing in Argentina.
So you support terrorists now eh? Cowards that they are and you're a coward too for supporting them.
In a democracy we accept responsibility for our governments actions, but we are not cowards.
Did you see the news reels in July 8th 2005? If you did you would've seen Londoners walking around with t-shirts on bearing the message: “still not scared.”
You really are pathetic Tobias and obviously have no valid arguments to support your position, since all you can do is bring in an attack by cowards and try to divert the thread (very poor job you're doing too).
Tell me, Tobias, just what did the people of Bali or their government do to deserve to be attacked by terrorists?
Or the people of Madrid?
Or even the people of Argentina when the Iranians set off bombs in your capital city?
Or the people of New York?
Only cowards attack this way, too afraid to stand up a face their enemies like men. To cowardly to try and change things politically by getting the people to vote them into power, and changing things that way. No they can only threaten to kill unarmed defenceless people, just like your military junta did. Do you think the junta were heroes for using terror tactics against Argentine citizens?
Why your mother must be so proud of you Tobias.
However, nothing you have said removes Argentina's obligation to pay off its debts, does it.
So Tobias, you'd better break into your money bank if you want your ship back, because the longer you delay that more expensive it will become.
July 7, 2005 was a legitimate response to Iraq.
You are the lowest of the low. LEPRecon at 42 is wrong. You don't even have a mother do you? 'cos your dad s**t you from his a*shole didn't he?? You pathetic scum.
The only reason that Argentina hasn't been attacked by terrorists yet is because they don't have to, the Argentine government is doing their job very nicely for them.
42 LEPRecon
Nice post. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Pathetic is this:
“Father dies in front of children's eyes from bullets he took to save them; 4-yo son also dies, gunman then sets neighborhood on fire, dozens evacuated, dozens more locked in fear within homes”
www.ksee24.com/news/local/Father-Dies-Shielding-Children-From-Gunman-Who-Set-Home-Ablaze-175078901.html
Gets only a few sentences in a backwater local channel. Amerika the Wonderful.
ahahahahaha.... what a joke.
“the crew goes with the boat they didn't stand up to defend it, keep them all including the captain. They are useless, talking about loosing your ship without a shot”
Perhaps you should got to Ghana and fight for the ship, great hero.
It seems that Pirat-Hunter, hopefully alone among the 7 000 000 000 people in the world, suggests that one should take up armed fight against a court, which rules in accordance with international and national laws.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:56 am
Not without a bathyscope.
Here I will give you just a FEW sad stories all happened in the last 24 months and getting worse every day:
Candela a young 11 year old girl, murdered and found in a plastic bag in an empty lot:
www.larepublica.pe/31-08-2011/conmocion-en-argentina-nina-candela-aparecio-muerta
Young 17 year old boy, Matías Berardi, kidnapped, held for ransom and murdered when he tried to escape:
noticias.terra.com.ar/escalofriantes-detalles-del-asesinato-de-matias-berardi,19464cdeee26b210VgnVCM20000099f154d0RCRD.html
Garbage collector shot and killed when he tried to block a thief's car from escaping:
www.asteriscos.tv/noticia-43625.html
2 young girls from France murdered in the Salta province and 1 French tourist killed for his camera at 8:00 in the morning in the center of Buenos Aires (this website of course is blocked from access in Argentina)
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
If someone didn'y what a VULTURE found was, well now they know and it has a the face of Mister singer on it and they now that he has the backup of the USA and teh UK!
Cheers!
Seriously, Shit navy is seriously shit.
From a gunman!!!! You really are a weapons grade idiot arn't you?
He was saving his children from a gunman!!! NOT his own GOVERNMENT!!! why am I not supprised that you could not tell the difference?
Hey, who invades countries by mistake? Now that is the shittiest navy of them all. The UK's, besides the fact you are a moral joke of a country, especially since 2003.
So I'd suggest you no longer open your mouth, your country has not a penny, has record deficits and will be gone by 2015. That is the real joke. I would be utterly embarassed to live in a country which can't balance a budget (ever), and has major constituents about to vote on independence.
Quite embarassing.
Oh dear Giorgio!! This is worse than I first thought!!
What you have posted there is a textbook case of “Projection” your outrage about what other people are say is your own release for the failure of your government and your country.
The thought that THE WHOLE WORLD holds Argentina in contempt and your government is the laughing stock of the UN is too much for you. what we have here Ladies and Gentlemen is a case of show and tell:-
Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos thinks he is telling us all but actually he is showing us everything. Take the phrase:-
”your country has not a penny, has record deficits and will be gone by 2015. That is the real joke. I would be utterly embarassed to live in a country which can't balance a budget (ever)“
I think that this one phrase alone tells us about the mindset of the poster. All the hate that he feels towards how Argentina is staring international ruin in the face. All you have to do is substitute the word ”YOUR“ for the word ”MY” and it tells us everything about how he feels.
He doesn't deserve to be laughed at. No, he needs counciling for his inability to connect with real people. You see, he is using this forum as a kind of therapy for his misplaced rage and impotence, attacking people for what he sees as their malice towards him but is in fact his own shortcoming.
You need to workshop those emotions Giorgio, I mean really get to the bottom of your soul and find out who the reall Giorgio is. Otherwise, you are a headline just waiting to happen.
callate.....stupida mujer!
Argentina is the winner....
Don't retire to engage solely in your attempts at physiognomy. You will die of thirst (not even hunger).
But you could take a crack at reading your fellow countryment, who by the dozen come here to insult my country, and thoroughly lie about it. What does that tell you?
I won't wait for an answer, I'm sure you will cravenly ignore it.
y ahora que vas a decir?
#48 in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, syria and egypt the UK and USA rapes and murder Muslim women and children every day, I guess no one pays you to speak for Muslims.
We the Argentine people will like to thanks the UK and USA civilians for their comments and support but we much rather ask you solve your own problems in you respective countries and let us solve ours, we think the murdering of innocent Muslim women and children deserve much much more attention then asking Argentina for ransom.
Argentina shouldn't pay ransom for the relic ship, let ghana keep it hostage until the end of the international ruling.
Mean time check out what happened to the vulture fund money.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?feature=plpp&v=BQZbOY5Q3ZU
m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?feature=plpp&v=Tym9AhMNcP0
“No way the crew goes with the boat they didn't stand up to defend it, keep them all including the captain. They are useless, talking about loosing your ship without a shot shot be considered treason and punished by execution.”
So according to Pirate Hunter the half a million british troops that surrendered to the japs without firing a shot commited treason and should have been executed.
Oh dear Giorgio, Who do you think is against you?
“But you could take a crack at reading your fellow countryment, who by the dozen come here to insult my country, and thoroughly lie about it. What does that tell you?”
Look, if we are going to get anywhere, who have to let go of this paranoid delusion. The whole world is not out to get you. They are merely pointing out the error of KFC's / ol' turkey neck / TMBOA's ways.
They are trying to warn you of the coming storm. So the best way forward for you is to recognise this and accept that there is more than one point of view in this world. Just because you don't agree with what they say does not make them wrong.
Now.............. what is your favorite animal and why?
“I think this navy officers should use this opportunity to sharpen their endurance skills, it is all part of the training.”
Laughable - Argentina's government breaks a financial agreement and sends it ship to a foreign port, where it is impounded.
Pirat - Alex blames the crew, calling them “treasonous”.
He wants the death of his own countrymen!!
@57 Alex Vargass
“#48 in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, syria and egypt the UK and USA rapes and murder Muslim women and children every day, I guess no one pays you to speak for Muslims. ”
You know nothing of world affairs except what you want to hear in the anti-West press.
How many Muslim women are raped tortured and beaten by your friends, the Taliban in Afganistan, and Islamist fundamentalists in Iran and Libya???
BTW, your Facebook is full of pictures of Taliban snipers killing afghan civilians and Canadian soldiers, alike!
Egypt was an uprising by their own people ( as was Libya, with the people begging for help from outside).
Your Facebook pictures show your support for Dictator Ghadaffy's regime, while he was murdering his own people!
The UK or USA has NOTHING TO DO WITH SYRIA !!!
CHINA and RUSSIA are using their veto at the UN to prevent US/IL/NATO from stopping the Syrian armed forces from shelling civilians and murdering them in their homes ( yes, women and children, too), yet you condemn the West and support the Dictator, and the RUSSIANS who are selling them arms!!
ALEX , you do NOT have any moral high ground.
You simply, jealously HATE !
@57 Alex Vargas
“We the Argentine people will like to thanks the UK and USA civilians for their comments and support but we much rather ask you solve your own problems in you respective countries and let us solve ours,”
You are not Argentine anymore, just a coward in Canada!
Answer this post and explain your reasoning.
No, you are a coward and you know how weak your position is.
You will find an excuse not to reply...
Alex Varga is a big hero....I changed my mind!
“Alex Varga is a big hero....I changed my mind!”
I can imagine that he must seem very compelling to you.
Does he qualify to join you lot at La Campora, now??
I have never felt that he was one of your members - seems to be brigand with no alliance to anyone - and too much of a loose cannon for professionals...
Just business. As the human trafficker said to Liam Neeson in Taken, when trying to have him killed to protect the sale of his daughter...
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